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Serious Hardmaxxing = gender affirming care

Sir Silentium

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'Softmaxxing' - optimising physical appearance naturally
'Hardmaxxing' - undergoing surgeries or extreme physical alterations in order to change one's appearance

I am against hardmaxxing, not necessarily softmaxxing.

Note: hardmaxxing does not involve reconstructive procedures such as repairing injury, deformity, or medical issues - but rather elective cosmetic procedures performed primarily to chase an idealised appearance.



I view hardmaxxing on a similar level to transgender surgeries, both biblically and non-biblically speaking. But I will lay out this post from a non-bilblical perspective.
If you're looking for a biblical perspective, this is the thread:

Hardmaxxing is like Man to Man transitioning. You're altering your appearance to look more of a particular gender. It's the definition of gender affirming care.

Same thing with being a "man trapped in a womans body" and getting treatment --> to being a 6ft soul trapped in a 5'6 body... and needing limb lengthening surgery to account for your desires.



Anyone who has followed gender medicine will see the obvious parallels to the extreme body modification procedures sought by members of the trans community. What such trans identifying individuals and hardmaxxers have in common, is that they each possess an extreme overvalued belief - and that the benefits of such drastic body modification procedures outweigh the risks.

For example, the somewhat common procedure "limb lengthening" had a complication rate of up to half of all surgeries conducted:
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(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0972978X24003180)

Other common surgeries, such as regarding the eye area, include blepharoplasty - a procedure to remove excess skin, muscle, and fat from the upper or lower eyelids. It is deemed extremely risky and not advised by professionals, yet is still pushed by the extreme media and creators. Example of common botched eye surgery:
1780322329028

Note: Of course not every surgery will look like this, but it is very high risk and this is an example of a failed surgery.



WPATH in 2010 made it possible for trans people and the procedures that followed to be celebrated openly, as a positive expression of someones 'true self'. Since then there has been a surge in youth identifying as trans and developing extreme overvalued beliefs that they saw being celebrated/promoted by the media. The lesson we should have learnt from this is that treating extreme beliefs as non-negative will cause serious harm to gullible and vulnerable people.

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It goes without saying that hardmaxxing practices come with many high risk side effects and unnecessary dangers. Looksmax creators downplay this risk in an effort to gain agreement and attention, doing so at the expense of primarily adolescents health and wellbeing. These creators who promote activities such as limb lengthening surgery, injecting yourself with peptides, and even hitting yourself in the face to promote "bone growth", are all incredibly harmful and shouldn't be promoted to anyone, let alone younger people who can't think for themselves.

"Bonesmashing" is one of the looksmaximising trends by these creators that are causing serious injury:

I feel like it isn't long before these creators look back in horror regarding what they have promoted, and their anti-christ practices they have preached... that is if they even live long enough in the first place with their excessive drug use.

People supporting the average "looksmaxxer" have the moral obligation to stop, just like the average supporters for gender reassignment surgeries also have a moral obligation to stop. All "looksmaxxers" should be de-platformed in my opinion.

Idiot creator posing with a hammer:
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Anyone considering "hardmaxxing"/injections/surgeries is mentally ill, and is in need of psychiatric assistance.
I'd be surprised if many blackpillers on here are pro-hardmaxxing, as it goes against the term itself. The term is redpilled, and aligns with .orgs belief system.

Having said that, I know there will be some people on the forum that disagree with the statements, but I suspect the majority will have enough wisdom to understand the point and see the obvious folly in the scene.

@Lo3e @InvoluntaryChigga @whrt @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh @GeckoBus
 
No softmaxing for sub5 face
 
But you are right, cosmetic surgeries for the sake of vanity is not permitted in Islam either.
 
'Softmaxxing' - optimising physical appearance naturally
'Hardmaxxing' - undergoing surgeries or extreme physical alterations in order to change one's appearance

I am against hardmaxxing, not necessarily softmaxxing.

Note: hardmaxxing does not involve reconstructive procedures such as repairing injury, deformity, or medical issues - but rather elective cosmetic procedures performed primarily to chase an idealised appearance.



I view hardmaxxing on a similar level to transgender surgeries, both biblically and non-biblically speaking. But I will lay out this post from a non-bilblical perspective.
If you're looking for a biblical perspective, this is the thread:

Hardmaxxing is like Man to Man transitioning. You're altering your appearance to look more of a particular gender. It's the definition of gender affirming care.

Same thing with being a "man trapped in a womans body" and getting treatment --> to being a 6ft soul trapped in a 5'6 body... and needing limb lengthening surgery to account for your desires.



Anyone who has followed gender medicine will see the obvious parallels to the extreme body modification procedures sought by members of the trans community. What such trans identifying individuals and hardmaxxers have in common, is that they each possess an extreme overvalued belief - and that the benefits of such drastic body modification procedures outweigh the risks.

For example, the somewhat common procedure "limb lengthening" had a complication rate of up to half of all surgeries conducted:
View attachment 1740279
(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0972978X24003180)

Other common surgeries, such as regarding the eye area, include blepharoplasty - a procedure to remove excess skin, muscle, and fat from the upper or lower eyelids. It is deemed extremely risky and not advised by professionals, yet is still pushed by the extreme media and creators. Example of common botched eye surgery:
View attachment 1740286
Note: Of course not every surgery will look like this, but it is very high risk and this is an example of a failed surgery.



WPATH in 2010 made it possible for trans people and the procedures that followed to be celebrated openly, as a positive expression of someones 'true self'. Since then there has been a surge in youth identifying as trans and developing extreme overvalued beliefs that they saw being celebrated/promoted by the media. The lesson we should have learnt from this is that treating extreme beliefs as non-negative will cause serious harm to gullible and vulnerable people.

View attachment 1740266



It goes without saying that hardmaxxing practices come with many high risk side effects and unnecessary dangers. Looksmax creators downplay this risk in an effort to gain agreement and attention, doing so at the expense of primarily adolescents health and wellbeing. These creators who promote activities such as limb lengthening surgery, injecting yourself with peptides, and even hitting yourself in the face to promote "bone growth", are all incredibly harmful and shouldn't be promoted to anyone, let alone younger people who can't think for themselves.

"Bonesmashing" is one of the looksmaximising trends by these creators that are causing serious injury:

I feel like it isn't long before these creators look back in horror regarding what they have promoted, and their anti-christ practices they have preached... that is if they even live long enough in the first place with their excessive drug use.

People supporting the average "looksmaxxer" have the moral obligation to stop, just like the average supporters for gender reassignment surgeries also have a moral obligation to stop. All "looksmaxxers" should be de-platformed in my opinion.

Idiot creator posing with a hammer:
View attachment 1740271



Anyone considering "hardmaxxing"/injections/surgeries is mentally ill, and is in need of psychiatric assistance.
I'd be surprised if many blackpillers on here are pro-hardmaxxing, as it goes against the term itself. The term is redpilled, and aligns with .orgs belief system.

Having said that, I know there will be some people on the forum that disagree with the statements, but I suspect the majority will have enough wisdom to understand the point and see the obvious folly in the scene.

@Lo3e @InvoluntaryChigga @whrt @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh @GeckoBus
I agree with your thread but for a different reason than Christianity.
I think it is homosexual and harmful for others to look better.
If you are an incel and you become chad tomorrow, you will hate me and I will hate you back.
 
FaceIQ has to be the worst for this, he recommends super invasive surgeries with his app when he doesn't dare get any himself, he can't even stick to his raw meat health grift as he has openly admitted that he does drugs and smokes cigars, that doesn't sound very healthy to me :feelskek:
 
FaceIQ has to be the worst for this, he recommends super invasive surgeries with his app when he doesn't dare get any himself, he can't even stick to his raw meat health grift as he has openly admitted that he does drugs and smokes cigars, that doesn't sound very healthy to me :feelskek:
Kek yea he's a typical gifter in the scene. Nothing short of a hypocrite, and he doesn't practice what he preaches. He has very good genetics, yet said it was a result of diet XD

I don't know if he still posts those instagram stories, but every second one was him eating some sort of modern food... pancakes, burgers, chips, more the like.
 
No softmaxing for sub5 face
:yes:

But you are right, cosmetic surgeries for the sake of vanity is not permitted in Islam either.
That's great, and I presume Islam is more strict on the topic as well. In Christianity you have more people that are backsliders and fake Christians, whereas in Islam i've noticed generally people are more devoted in their faith.
 
You very well know my thoughts on this. Agree to disagree
 
In limb lengthening they must break bones to insirt the lengthening rods
 
You can hardmax into a good looking guy but you can't hardmax into a woman.

I think gymcels are more comparable to trannies in the sense that they'll both keep growing/getting surgeries until there's nothing left to do and they inevitably kill themselves.

Maybe if you're on a crazy level of narcissism where no amount of surgery will get rid of the insecurities. Then yeah your psychology is similar to that of a tranny.
 
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> Looksmax ramblings

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I am a chad trapped in a subhuman's body
 
'Softmaxxing' - optimising physical appearance naturally
'Hardmaxxing' - undergoing surgeries or extreme physical alterations in order to change one's appearance

I am against hardmaxxing, not necessarily softmaxxing.

Note: hardmaxxing does not involve reconstructive procedures such as repairing injury, deformity, or medical issues - but rather elective cosmetic procedures performed primarily to chase an idealised appearance.



I view hardmaxxing on a similar level to transgender surgeries, both biblically and non-biblically speaking. But I will lay out this post from a non-bilblical perspective.
If you're looking for a biblical perspective, this is the thread:

Hardmaxxing is like Man to Man transitioning. You're altering your appearance to look more of a particular gender. It's the definition of gender affirming care.

Same thing with being a "man trapped in a womans body" and getting treatment --> to being a 6ft soul trapped in a 5'6 body... and needing limb lengthening surgery to account for your desires.



Anyone who has followed gender medicine will see the obvious parallels to the extreme body modification procedures sought by members of the trans community. What such trans identifying individuals and hardmaxxers have in common, is that they each possess an extreme overvalued belief - and that the benefits of such drastic body modification procedures outweigh the risks.

For example, the somewhat common procedure "limb lengthening" had a complication rate of up to half of all surgeries conducted:
View attachment 1740279
(https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0972978X24003180)

Other common surgeries, such as regarding the eye area, include blepharoplasty - a procedure to remove excess skin, muscle, and fat from the upper or lower eyelids. It is deemed extremely risky and not advised by professionals, yet is still pushed by the extreme media and creators. Example of common botched eye surgery:
View attachment 1740286
Note: Of course not every surgery will look like this, but it is very high risk and this is an example of a failed surgery.



WPATH in 2010 made it possible for trans people and the procedures that followed to be celebrated openly, as a positive expression of someones 'true self'. Since then there has been a surge in youth identifying as trans and developing extreme overvalued beliefs that they saw being celebrated/promoted by the media. The lesson we should have learnt from this is that treating extreme beliefs as non-negative will cause serious harm to gullible and vulnerable people.

View attachment 1740266



It goes without saying that hardmaxxing practices come with many high risk side effects and unnecessary dangers. Looksmax creators downplay this risk in an effort to gain agreement and attention, doing so at the expense of primarily adolescents health and wellbeing. These creators who promote activities such as limb lengthening surgery, injecting yourself with peptides, and even hitting yourself in the face to promote "bone growth", are all incredibly harmful and shouldn't be promoted to anyone, let alone younger people who can't think for themselves.

"Bonesmashing" is one of the looksmaximising trends by these creators that are causing serious injury:

I feel like it isn't long before these creators look back in horror regarding what they have promoted, and their anti-christ practices they have preached... that is if they even live long enough in the first place with their excessive drug use.

People supporting the average "looksmaxxer" have the moral obligation to stop, just like the average supporters for gender reassignment surgeries also have a moral obligation to stop. All "looksmaxxers" should be de-platformed in my opinion.

Idiot creator posing with a hammer:
View attachment 1740271



Anyone considering "hardmaxxing"/injections/surgeries is mentally ill, and is in need of psychiatric assistance.
I'd be surprised if many blackpillers on here are pro-hardmaxxing, as it goes against the term itself. The term is redpilled, and aligns with .orgs belief system.

Having said that, I know there will be some people on the forum that disagree with the statements, but I suspect the majority will have enough wisdom to understand the point and see the obvious folly in the scene.

@Lo3e @InvoluntaryChigga @whrt @thevineyardworker @The_word_made_flesh @GeckoBus
you are extremely right about this,but sadly some people can't become good looking without hardmaxxing,so they either do that,live a life of pure pain and agony or just kill themselves
 

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