If you havn't asked a girl out you're a fakecel or an Inceltears plant imo.
Note that I said "in person". I've tried it online but those kinds of rejections are less interesting.
Do you think hotwheels just went around cold-approaching girls?
If you have reason to believe from your social experiences that you are scorned then it's a fucking waste of time, you know this.
Cold approaches are stupid, and you only build up to warm approaches after building chemistry, which in our case we never build because we can sense in casual interaction the foid hates us.
So how do we know OP isn't chadlight who's high inhib?
Facially speaking I am mogged by Joey
and I am probably even more mentalcel than he is. Mentalcels belong here too. I also could never be low-inhib enough to invite a reporter (much less a foid one) into my room, and his room is like twice the size of mine.
I've had 3 dates in the last 3 years, one with a disgusting hairy feminist pig, one with a bitch that agreed to go out of pity and obviously didn't want to be there and a third one that ghosted me after. they were all pretty fucking dumb though ngl
I did an IRL date in a library with a hairy landwhale I met on a goth dating site (she dressed goth, I was just LARPing, kinda had a fetish and figured they would be DTF, all I did was wear a black t-shirt, LOL) and still tried to flirt with her despite the hairy arms she had. For some reason she wanted to tell me all about her ex-con boyfriend and how often they still fuck. I guess I never specified "single girls only" or "not into polyamory" so I guess it's my fault.
I didn't want to get murdered by a jealous shiv-wielding tatted BF so I acted all timid from there on and any potential chemistry died, so maybe that's me being mentalcel/volcel, dunno. TBH thinking I had a chance at all was cope, I walked to the library while she had a car, it was like I was a child.
OP here, I realize you're saying greycel to dig at get_even but please keep in mind some of your fellow animefags such as yours truly are also graycels and the dissonance is worse since we are so much further from high school where most of the harem anime are based.
Countless times, countless different situations, countless methods, constant 100% rejection rate
I was more hoping for interesting specifics, even about just one event, not just the fact that you got rejected. Subtleties you can remember about words, body language, situation, tone of voice, etc.
i tried to talk to foids but never got an answer other than no and laughter followed by "go fuck yourself"
This seems strange, I would think there are some foids out there who at least try to be polite about it, ie they wouldn't say GFYS and would try to hold back their laughter until you were gone.
Is it possible you were mostly approaching a certain type?
Chads can have anime avis that proves nothing.
if you never asked a foid before then you are most likely a mentalcel,
There is no basis for establishing such a likelihood.
you can never know unless you try
You can never know for certain how foids you haven't asked (a population which exists for all men, nobody's asked out every single foid on earth) will respond even if you have tried.
The idea that you can predict this is based on pattern-modeling from data.
That data does not necessarily need to be your own rejections, but also rejections you've witnessed in guys similar to or even more attractive than you.
Plus you can model it on your own social experiences other than asking girls out, like merely trying to politely chat them up about something and witnessing the revulsion they exhibit. With that kind of data you don't even need to ask them out to know how they'd react.
This is the standard kind of "feel a person out" stuff you do to avoid awkward rejections, and it's what high-IQ people usually do.
I'm semi-autistic so I don't pick up on a lot of subtle cues but even I can do this to some degree to avoid making things uncomfortable by asking out a girl I can tell from pre-romantic conversation is disinterested.
only chad doesn't need to put effort at all, chadlites and normies do
Not directly asking a girl out in person doesn't mean you aren't making efforts. I make efforts merely to go out in public, to talk about basic non-dating stuff just to see how people react to me. It's exhausting as hell, but it tells me enough about how I'm perceived that I don't need to go beyond that to ask a girl out because she's already pre-rejected me by her body language, tone of voice, obvious disinterest, showing more interest to adjacent chads, etc.
I like it how no one has called this fakecel larper our yet. He literally admits to kissing and holding hands and being approached. @Personalityinkwell @Colvin76 @sub8male
Regardless of what HAH has experienced (it might hinge upon breaking the 'bragging' rules, I guess?) if kissing/handholding/approaches didn't actually lead to sexual consummation then he's still an incel to me.
Kissing/dancing/hugging/handholding is what confused civil-LARPing foids do to test the waters of whether or not they want to fuck a guy they're on the fence about and this will often lead to them realizing they don't feel 'chemistry' and rejecting the incel they just gave hope/blue-balls to.
Except this shit doesn't lead to anything, that's what you don't get. You can fail at any base before sex and if you fail, you still fucking fail. A guy who gets dates but can't get a girl to sleep with him is still incel. You want a place only for people who are never approached, sure. But that's not what the site is advertised as.
This, pretty much. Although I am curious how often you got approached and the context/details of those situations.
I got approached ONCE in my life in HS, a cold approach by a girl I never met, and I am 99% confident that it was a prank or else some kind of pity-based virtue-signal to her peers that would've never to anything because I was a loner being bullied. I don't think she even knew my name and I didn't know hers. Who the fuck comes and says "will you go out on a date with with me?" without even opening with basic shit like "hi my name is X, what's yours?" and similar? Obviously not fucking organic/genuine at all. I didn't have the financial means to take girls out anyway. If she was genuinely interested she would've treated me like a person and not an object.
It was in High School, I was 15 at the time.
So, at this time I was around 5'2 and kind of chubby because I was pre-gymcel (not obese or anything though), and I saw this female during lunch (it was 4th period). They were an average looking Asian female, and by average I mean pretty overweight but not morbidly obese with normal facial features (this is America). I'd estimate a BMI of roughly 29-30.
So anyway, I saw them alone playing on a 3DS,
Holy fuck you youngcels, that came out in 2011 so you can't be any older than 24 now I guess. The equivalent of this for me would be a GameBoy Color or something.
upon further inspection of going behind them and looking at the screen (took care not to be seen). They happened to be playing a Pokémon game (one of my favorite franchises), so I came up to them and sat next to them meaning to start up some conversation regarding the game.
I'll never forget the look in their eyes when they eyed me down and started me down. I swear this female was shocked because it took them a solid 6 seconds after looking at me to utter a single sentence. Then they, with a look of deep disdain in their eyes and uncomfortable body language told me in the bluntest way possible, "sorry, but I'm saving this seat for someone else". Sensing I had absolutely no chance, I got up and left, retreating to my usually reclusive spot in the halls where I studied for most of the lunch period.
When I came back near the end to see if what they were saying was true, nobody was sitting next to them still, and there was no indication that anybody had gotten up.
See this is a good story, and even though it deviates from the specifics of the thread title (asking girls out) I think we should include it and expand the parameters, because this is EXACTLY the type of pre-rejection I'm talking about with trying to build up to warm approaches.
You didn't need to ask the girl out to know she hated you, you could tell from her gaze and body language. We're not blind to this shit.
TBH kind of amazing to just go up to a foid and sit next to her though, I've never been that low-inhib. I'd probably be all "is this seat taken?" first.
Do you sometimes think back and wonder how she might have reacted differently if you'd asked that first before sitting down? Like maybe she'd be less hostile? Or like maybe if you sat down nearby but not directly next to her and then opened with "hey I recognize that music, is that pokemon?" or something?
With roughly average height and looks I'm purely a mentalcel
No you aren't.
Average height/looks is not enough for foids.
Even if you had average personality instead of mentalcel aspects you would have a handicap.
I gave up and became MSTOW / "vol"cel about 3 years ago now,
what does changing G (going) to S (?) signify again?
appropriate quotes around 'vol' since it's indeep cope/LARP to emphasize the voluntariness of giving up when inceldom attempts at socializing fail for years.
it's shit being this close to achieving normie status and still failing every time.
I feel like I'm bragging right now when I'm trying to vent about how I feel it's unfair I'm so close but so far
(and realizing there are people who are worse off and have never gotten close).
It's a common argument which I doubt we'll ever reach consensus about. Those close to normalcy/ascension constantly have their hopes toyed with while those far from it can make peace sooner with blackpill and finding copes. But there's a nagging suspicion of the latter toward the former that they could've pushed beyond the boundaries to ascend with just a little more willpower, willpower the latter just assume they have.
Low-tier inceldom is truly the fox and the grapes.
I say the grapes are sour (the girls are bad and not worth it),
because I can't reach them,
not because they are.
They still could be. In fact perhaps you should assume they are because if they were not sour and worth it, they'd put as much effort into reaching us as we do to reaching them, instead of just sperading for chad.
I fucking hate it.
Choosing to walk away from it feels cowardly
but staying in a losing game of humiliation is just too much for anyone to deal with.
I know that feel.
JFL. Dude you have girls approaching you. Get out of here. That literally only happens to actual chads.
Inappropriate wording this in present-tense, we don't know how many years ago this was.
Also no: it's NOT just Chads-only. Non-Chads get cold-approached by girls for non-genuine reasons other than wanting a relationship with him, usually put up to it by her other female friends to feign sympathy or plan cruelty.
Did you report his bragshit post? I reported it. Everyone needs to report it
IMO it's not brag unless you actually verify the foid's approach was of genuine intent.
I mentioned above I got asked out once too. But context is everything. We shouldn't be forced to humiliate ourselves with obvious traps and feigned gestures on the 0.001% chance it might be genuine.
HAH may not perceive it that way (he seems to think it was genuine, that he was just mentalcel and fucked up the date or something so it never led to sex) but that could simply be cope: he may have had no chance to begin with and the entire thing was an elaborate ruse by a foid trying to impress her peers by going through the motions of a date.
If you read PUA stuff it talks about approaching ugly women you don't want to fuck first to build confidence to ask out attractive women. I expect that girls who are initially too shy to ask out Chad will build up their confidence by approaching non-Chads first to practice.
We are basically the hands they practice-kiss except they don't actually kiss us.
