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Theory guesstimation/estimation: women are 80% lesbian and 20% straight

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if women find 80% of men unattractive, then they find 80% of women attractive. a majority of women already view themselves as the more attractive gender. which demonstrates their lesbian proclivities and also being that their porn preference is lesbian porn.

women find 20% of men attractive, so women are 20% straight.

being 80% lesbian and 20% straight may put them as a bisexual, but however a bulk of that percentage shows that they're mostly lesbian or lean towards liking women more.

there maybe those that are like 99% lesbian (finding 99% women attractive), but finding 1% of men attractive. i would still say those types of women are still lesbian, but guys here will say that they're "chadsexuals" which is already something so mi-nute or even negligible.

i think it maybe fair just to assume that women are simply lesbian. if it was anything in-between, we can half 80% into 40% and 20% into 10%, supposing that they're attracted to pretty femboys (who are almost seen as gender neutral, like both being a man and a woman), which seems to be universal/mutual between lesbian, bisexual, and straight women. when women want to become men or transition or become trans, they want to look like those guys feeding into their self-attraction and experimenting with other women. 50% of the make-up are bisexuals. which already sort of almost aligns with the arizona study of 60%+ women being bicurious.

@ThisSongGoesVerHard @Ryo_Hazuki
 
Eatimation: 100% of women are Chadsexual
 
It boils down to the simple fact they'd rather fuck each other over men they are not attracted to.
 
And they also love animals and want to copulate with dogs. Females are also more likely to be vegan. They want to protect animals. They want to protect baby animals but kill their own offspring in their womb. They want to send men to war and ridicule men that do not want to fight for them.
 
I don't think most women find each other attractive. It's that weird bond women have with each other where they're super nice to each other's faces but evil backstabbers in vicious competition otherwise.
 
I don't think most women find each other attractive. It's that weird bond women have with each other where they're super nice to each other's faces but evil backstabbers in vicious competition otherwise.
It has more to do with in-group bias
 
Women's sexuality is extraordinarily messy, fluid and inestable. To begin with, they literally get aroused from sexualizing themselves, feeling smaller, desired, etc, and basically are autogynephiles and extreme sexual narcissists (https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/thesesdissertations/4241/), so it's not surprising at all that they find other women sexually attractive. On top of that, their relationships with each other also are very intimate, touchy, emotional etc, and many of their friendships are more akin to pseudoromantic relationships. As a result, a very high percentage of women have strong homosexual tendencies.

Nevertheless, they generally want the dynamic of a heterosexual relationship, in which the man has to put the work to court her, shower her with money, attention, be her entertainment monkey, "make her feel like a woman", etc. Likewise, they want to be sexually dominated and take a passive role, and when it comes to their attraction to men, they seek traits that activate their autogynephilia and submissiveness: that's why they're obsessed with height, as it makes them feel smaller and protected, and for example they also like big shoulders and hands, deep voices, etc.

Now, a woman may date a man because he's masculine, tall, makes her feel small and desired etc, and yet still see him as visually meh, because her attraction is more based on his projection of masculinity and the dynamic of the relationship. That's why most women believe that they're better looking than their male partner and believe that most men are ugly, despite generally having a sexual preference for men. On the other hand, they're also attracted to pretty boys, and I believe that such attraction is more influenced by their homosexual tendencies.

To summarize,
>Women are more visually attracted to each other, as evidenced by the fact that they're autogynephiles, that they very loudly proclaim that most men are ugly while most women are pretty, that they get visually aroused by other women (there are many papers about this)
>BUT they still want the dynamics of a hetero relationship and the masculinity.

As a result, most women are narcissistic pseudodykes that nevertheless prefer to date men. Add the hypergamy, the lower sexual drivee, their obsession with money and status, and the growing misandry, that's how we get the current dating and sexual dynamics.

Source: I've read tons of papers about foid sexuality.
 
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Women's sexuality is extraordinarily messy, fluid and inestable. To begin with, they literally get aroused from sexualizing themselves, feeling smaller, desired, etc, and basically are autogynephiles and extreme sexual narcissists (https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/thesesdissertations/4241/), so it's not surprising at all that they find other women sexually attractive. On top of that, their relationships with each other also are very intimate, touchy, emotional etc, and many of their friendships are more akin to pseudoromantic relationships. As a result, a very high percentage of women have strong homosexual tendencies.

Nevertheless, they generally want the dynamic of a heterosexual relationship, in which the man has to put the work to court her, shower her with money, attention, be her entertainment monkey, "make her feel like a woman", etc. Likewise, they want to be sexually dominated and take a passive role, and when it comes to their attraction to men, they seek traits that activate their autogynephilia and submissiveness: that's why they're obsessed with height, as it makes them feel smaller and protected, and for example they also like big shoulders and hands, deep voices, etc.

Now, a woman may date a man because he's masculine, tall, makes her feel small and desired etc, and yet still see him as visually meh, because her attraction is more based on his projection of masculinity and the dynamic of the relationship. That's why most women believe that they're better looking than their male partner and believe that most men are ugly, despite generally having a sexual preference for men. On the other hand, they're also attracted to pretty boys, and I believe that such attraction is more influenced by their homosexual tendencies.

To summarize,
>Women are more visually attracted to each other, as evidenced by the fact that they're autogynephiles, that they very loudly proclaim that most men are ugly while most women are pretty, that they get visually aroused by other women (there are many papers about this)
>BUT they still want the dynamics of a hetero relationship and the masculinity.

As a result, most women are narcissistic pseudodykes that nevertheless prefer to date men. Add the hypergamy, the lower sexual drivee, their obsession with money and status, and the growing misandry, that's how we get the current dating and sexual dynamics.

Source: I've read tons of papers about foid sexuality.
100%

I believe I may have mentioned this previously, but I recall reading elsewhere that Billie Eilish is aroused when masturbating in front of a mirror. She has also alluded multiple times to her dislike of men and their unattractiveness.

I also remember you noting earlier that women with a stronger sexual attraction towards men often exhibit a stronger sexual attraction towards women as well.

It has been proven that women with higher testosterone levels tend to have a higher sex drive. Testosterone is often the primary reason why men generally experience a higher level of sexual desire compared to women.

Women's lack of attraction to men may contribute to their leaning towards feminist or female nationalist ideologies.

The most appealing masculine trait for women is height, which is sexually dimorphic.
 
Women's sexuality is extraordinarily messy, fluid and inestable. To begin with, they literally get aroused from sexualizing themselves, feeling smaller, desired, etc, and basically are autogynephiles and extreme sexual narcissists (https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/thesesdissertations/4241/), so it's not surprising at all that they find other women sexually attractive. On top of that, their relationships with each other also are very intimate, touchy, emotional etc, and many of their friendships are more akin to pseudoromantic relationships. As a result, a very high percentage of women have strong homosexual tendencies.

Nevertheless, they generally want the dynamic of a heterosexual relationship, in which the man has to put the work to court her, shower her with money, attention, be her entertainment monkey, "make her feel like a woman", etc. Likewise, they want to be sexually dominated and take a passive role, and when it comes to their attraction to men, they seek traits that activate their autogynephilia and submissiveness: that's why they're obsessed with height, as it makes them feel smaller and protected, and for example they also like big shoulders and hands, deep voices, etc.

Now, a woman may date a man because he's masculine, tall, makes her feel small and desired etc, and yet still see him as visually meh, because her attraction is more based on his projection of masculinity and the dynamic of the relationship. That's why most women believe that they're better looking than their male partner and believe that most men are ugly, despite generally having a sexual preference for men. On the other hand, they're also attracted to pretty boys, and I believe that such attraction is more influenced by their homosexual tendencies.

To summarize,
>Women are more visually attracted to each other, as evidenced by the fact that they're autogynephiles, that they very loudly proclaim that most men are ugly while most women are pretty, that they get visually aroused by other women (there are many papers about this)
>BUT they still want the dynamics of a hetero relationship and the masculinity.

As a result, most women are narcissistic pseudodykes that nevertheless prefer to date men. Add the hypergamy, the lower sexual drivee, their obsession with money and status, and the growing misandry, that's how we get the current dating and sexual dynamics.

Source: I've read tons of papers about foid sexuality.
@WorthlessSlavicShit
 
To be fair, being attracted to only 20 percent of men doesn't mean that they're attracted to 80 percent of women. Those numbers don't have to add up to 100. A man who finds 99 percent of women attractive isn't attracted to 1 percent of men.
There's some truth in what OP is saying though. Women really aren't attracted to highly sexually dimorphic features, aside from height. If women liked sexually dimorphic features, then women on tik tok would be making edits of bald, hairy, muscular men with ogre faces instead of pretty boys. This probably does have some implications when it comes to sexual/romantic orientation, I remember my giga pretty boy friend from many years ago (that I've posted about before) saying almost all of the women he was with were bi.

But all that being said, when it comes down to brass tacks, women just aren't all that interested in dating/relationships. I don't just mean the sexual aspect of it (that part is too obvious to even point out) but women just aren't that interested in love/romance. This is not to say women have ZERO in men, but the average man is far more attracted to 2/10 women than women are to 10/10 men. Not sure if that's a hot take here or not, but it's just demonstrably true and dating website experiments confirm this.

Men are the hopeless romantics. Men are the ones who get more attached. Men want to protect and provide for women. Men are the ones who chase women, men are the ones who spend large amounts of money on a piece of jewelry to impress a woman, get on one knee, and beg for marriage, taking on huge financial risks. Women are the ones who initiate the divorces in 80 percent of cases. Another possible hot take, but I think men are far more emotional when it comes to dating than women. Women are more pragmatic/calculating/logical.

I often fantasize about a world where women were as interested in men as men are in women. Of course, in reality, this would certainly have some disastrous implications for humanity. If women were as interested in men as men are in women from the start of humanity, either we'd be horribly overpopulated, we'd have gone extinct, or we would have never even left africa. Either way, if humans were still around, they wouldn't be as advanced technologically. And without sexual selection, we'd also be more primitive and ugly looking. We'd all be 5'4, hairy, bald caveman looking ogres. Guys as good looking as prime Chico simply wouldn't exist. Culture(s) would also be radically different. This hypothetical world would be completely unrecognizable from our own in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
 
To be fair, being attracted to only 20 percent of men doesn't mean that they're attracted to 80 percent of women. Those numbers don't have to add up to 100. A man who finds 99 percent of women attractive isn't attracted to 1 percent of men.
There's some truth in what OP is saying though. Women really aren't attracted to highly sexually dimorphic features, aside from height. If women liked sexually dimorphic features, then women on tik tok would be making edits of bald, hairy, muscular men with ogre faces instead of pretty boys. This probably does have some implications when it comes to sexual/romantic orientation, I remember my giga pretty boy friend from many years ago (that I've posted about before) saying almost all of the women he was with were bi.

But all that being said, when it comes down to brass tacks, women just aren't all that interested in dating/relationships. I don't just mean the sexual aspect of it (that part is too obvious to even point out) but women just aren't that interested in love/romance. This is not to say women have ZERO in men, but the average man is far more attracted to 2/10 women than women are to 10/10 men. Not sure if that's a hot take here or not, but it's just demonstrably true and dating website experiments confirm this.

Men are the hopeless romantics. Men are the ones who get more attached. Men want to protect and provide for women. Men are the ones who chase women, men are the ones who spend large amounts of money on a piece of jewelry to impress a woman, get on one knee, and beg for marriage, taking on huge financial risks. Women are the ones who initiate the divorces in 80 percent of cases. Another possible hot take, but I think men are far more emotional when it comes to dating than women. Women are more pragmatic/calculating/logical.

I often fantasize about a world where women were as interested in men as men are in women. Of course, in reality, this would certainly have some disastrous implications for humanity. If women were as interested in men as men are in women from the start of humanity, either we'd be horribly overpopulated, we'd have gone extinct, or we would have never even left africa. Either way, if humans were still around, they wouldn't be as advanced technologically. And without sexual selection, we'd also be more primitive and ugly looking. We'd all be 5'4, hairy, bald caveman looking ogres. Guys as good looking as prime Chico simply wouldn't exist. Culture(s) would also be radically different. This hypothetical world would be completely unrecognizable from our own in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
Spot on, I would also like to add that some women , actually a lot of them are lesbian/bi because they are not attracted to the vast majority of men. One proof is my current oneitis (jfl) loli bahia , a model, had a live stream on shitstagram a while ago with her alleged ex girlfriend Amelia GrAY ,who is also a model, and this Amelia GrAY said she is lesbian because she isn’t attracted even to those men that have a model tier face! This also correlates with my previous oneitis from my jewuniversity group who is around 6‘1 give or take half an inch and she used to date a 5‘11 prettyboy from my class! But at the same time she doesn’t even acknowledge my 6‘8 groupmate who is low mtn. This just goes to show that for some toilets even 6‘8 is nothing more than a prerequisite. Like it doesn’t even make them wet anymore. It is completely and utterly ovER for the average man. We might not even exist at this point jfl
 
To be fair, being attracted to only 20 percent of men doesn't mean that they're attracted to 80 percent of women. Those numbers don't have to add up to 100. A man who finds 99 percent of women attractive isn't attracted to 1 percent of men.
There's some truth in what OP is saying though. Women really aren't attracted to highly sexually dimorphic features, aside from height. If women liked sexually dimorphic features, then women on tik tok would be making edits of bald, hairy, muscular men with ogre faces instead of pretty boys. This probably does have some implications when it comes to sexual/romantic orientation, I remember my giga pretty boy friend from many years ago (that I've posted about before) saying almost all of the women he was with were bi.

But all that being said, when it comes down to brass tacks, women just aren't all that interested in dating/relationships. I don't just mean the sexual aspect of it (that part is too obvious to even point out) but women just aren't that interested in love/romance. This is not to say women have ZERO in men, but the average man is far more attracted to 2/10 women than women are to 10/10 men. Not sure if that's a hot take here or not, but it's just demonstrably true and dating website experiments confirm this.

Men are the hopeless romantics. Men are the ones who get more attached. Men want to protect and provide for women. Men are the ones who chase women, men are the ones who spend large amounts of money on a piece of jewelry to impress a woman, get on one knee, and beg for marriage, taking on huge financial risks. Women are the ones who initiate the divorces in 80 percent of cases. Another possible hot take, but I think men are far more emotional when it comes to dating than women. Women are more pragmatic/calculating/logical.

I often fantasize about a world where women were as interested in men as men are in women. Of course, in reality, this would certainly have some disastrous implications for humanity. If women were as interested in men as men are in women from the start of humanity, either we'd be horribly overpopulated, we'd have gone extinct, or we would have never even left africa. Either way, if humans were still around, they wouldn't be as advanced technologically. And without sexual selection, we'd also be more primitive and ugly looking. We'd all be 5'4, hairy, bald caveman looking ogres. Guys as good looking as prime Chico simply wouldn't exist. Culture(s) would also be radically different. This hypothetical world would be completely unrecognizable from our own in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
Increasingly more and more women are attracted to feminine pretty boys. I just have a weird hunch that were converging to a genderless society where men and women don't want to be their prospective gender, perhaps I'm just hallucinating. It kind reminds me of the emo kids, but this time they're more strongly coming out as sexual minorities? It seems they don't want to fit into a certain mold. I think there's also a mix of gender envy involved from both sides as well. It's also said from that crowd that they find if you openly identify as a cis straight man or woman, they find that offensive or something (but that's the more extreme end).

Yeah, that makes sense. Women not being interested in men comes from a combination of certain things and one of those being their low sex drives. You've also explained the important juggernaut law (that often gets ignored).

They did a study of three couples with different sexual orientations out of gay, straight, and lesbian couples, and it's not surprising that gay men had the most physical intimacy during the relationships, second was the straight, and third or rather last was the lesbian couple.

Lesbian relationships tend to be more abusive because women wait on each to initiate something (a rather male role), but then they become passive aggressive towards each other. Lesbian relationships are unstable and tend to be short-lived.

Yeah, I don't know if it would disturb the relationship eco-system. Egalitarianism within the dating world would be nice, but perhaps there are some drawbacks to what you've listed, and may disturb eco-system leading to either disasters.
 
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Spot on, I would also like to add that some women , actually a lot of them are lesbian/bi because they are not attracted to the vast majority of men. One proof is my current oneitis (jfl) loli bahia , a model, had a live stream on shitstagram a while ago with her alleged ex girlfriend Amelia GrAY ,who is also a model, and this Amelia GrAY said she is lesbian because she isn’t attracted even to those men that have a model tier face! This also correlates with my previous oneitis from my jewuniversity group who is around 6‘1 give or take half an inch and she used to date a 5‘11 prettyboy from my class! But at the same time she doesn’t even acknowledge my 6‘8 groupmate who is low mtn. This just goes to show that for some toilets even 6‘8 is nothing more than a prerequisite. Like it doesn’t even make them wet anymore. It is completely and utterly ovER for the average man. We might not even exist at this point jfl
Being 5'11" and having a pretty face as a guy is usually enough. It’s not like the difference between 5'11" and 6'0" is anything major. However, if you say you're 5'11" to women online, they might treat it as though you're equivalent to being 5'6" or something.

But yes, this speaks to the tone of women having bisexual proclivities. However, it seems that in most cases, they'd lean more toward being lesbians than being straight, given that they find the average man (and below) to be a major turn-off, while they find the average woman to be much more glaringly beautiful.
 
Yeah, I'd say men are more emotional than women.

It's also usually men that are more clingy and possessive in relationships.

People just often look at Chads and Beckies. Well, yes, in this case, the Becky would be clingy and possessive because it may just be her window of opportunity. She doesn't want to settle for a Chadlite or HTN.
 
To be fair, being attracted to only 20 percent of men doesn't mean that they're attracted to 80 percent of women. Those numbers don't have to add up to 100. A man who finds 99 percent of women attractive isn't attracted to 1 percent of men.
There's some truth in what OP is saying though. Women really aren't attracted to highly sexually dimorphic features, aside from height. If women liked sexually dimorphic features, then women on tik tok would be making edits of bald, hairy, muscular men with ogre faces instead of pretty boys. This probably does have some implications when it comes to sexual/romantic orientation, I remember my giga pretty boy friend from many years ago (that I've posted about before) saying almost all of the women he was with were bi.

But all that being said, when it comes down to brass tacks, women just aren't all that interested in dating/relationships. I don't just mean the sexual aspect of it (that part is too obvious to even point out) but women just aren't that interested in love/romance. This is not to say women have ZERO in men, but the average man is far more attracted to 2/10 women than women are to 10/10 men. Not sure if that's a hot take here or not, but it's just demonstrably true and dating website experiments confirm this.

Men are the hopeless romantics. Men are the ones who get more attached. Men want to protect and provide for women. Men are the ones who chase women, men are the ones who spend large amounts of money on a piece of jewelry to impress a woman, get on one knee, and beg for marriage, taking on huge financial risks. Women are the ones who initiate the divorces in 80 percent of cases. Another possible hot take, but I think men are far more emotional when it comes to dating than women. Women are more pragmatic/calculating/logical.

I often fantasize about a world where women were as interested in men as men are in women. Of course, in reality, this would certainly have some disastrous implications for humanity. If women were as interested in men as men are in women from the start of humanity, either we'd be horribly overpopulated, we'd have gone extinct, or we would have never even left africa. Either way, if humans were still around, they wouldn't be as advanced technologically. And without sexual selection, we'd also be more primitive and ugly looking. We'd all be 5'4, hairy, bald caveman looking ogres. Guys as good looking as prime Chico simply wouldn't exist. Culture(s) would also be radically different. This hypothetical world would be completely unrecognizable from our own in ways that we couldn't even imagine.
@ThisSongGoesVerHard

 
Women's sexuality is extraordinarily messy, fluid and inestable. To begin with, they literally get aroused from sexualizing themselves, feeling smaller, desired, etc, and basically are autogynephiles and extreme sexual narcissists (https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/thesesdissertations/4241/), so it's not surprising at all that they find other women sexually attractive. On top of that, their relationships with each other also are very intimate, touchy, emotional etc, and many of their friendships are more akin to pseudoromantic relationships. As a result, a very high percentage of women have strong homosexual tendencies.

Nevertheless, they generally want the dynamic of a heterosexual relationship, in which the man has to put the work to court her, shower her with money, attention, be her entertainment monkey, "make her feel like a woman", etc. Likewise, they want to be sexually dominated and take a passive role, and when it comes to their attraction to men, they seek traits that activate their autogynephilia and submissiveness: that's why they're obsessed with height, as it makes them feel smaller and protected, and for example they also like big shoulders and hands, deep voices, etc.

Now, a woman may date a man because he's masculine, tall, makes her feel small and desired etc, and yet still see him as visually meh, because her attraction is more based on his projection of masculinity and the dynamic of the relationship. That's why most women believe that they're better looking than their male partner and believe that most men are ugly, despite generally having a sexual preference for men. On the other hand, they're also attracted to pretty boys, and I believe that such attraction is more influenced by their homosexual tendencies.

To summarize,
>Women are more visually attracted to each other, as evidenced by the fact that they're autogynephiles, that they very loudly proclaim that most men are ugly while most women are pretty, that they get visually aroused by other women (there are many papers about this)
>BUT they still want the dynamics of a hetero relationship and the masculinity.

As a result, most women are narcissistic pseudodykes that nevertheless prefer to date men. Add the hypergamy, the lower sexual drivee, their obsession with money and status, and the growing misandry, that's how we get the current dating and sexual dynamics.

Source: I've read tons of papers about foid sexuality.
@WorthlessSlavicShit
A very thought-provoking summary:bigbrain::bigbrain:.
 
But all that being said, when it comes down to brass tacks, women just aren't all that interested in dating/relationships. I don't just mean the sexual aspect of it (that part is too obvious to even point out) but women just aren't that interested in love/romance. This is not to say women have ZERO in men, but the average man is far more attracted to 2/10 women than women are to 10/10 men. Not sure if that's a hot take here or not, but it's just demonstrably true and dating website experiments confirm this.

It is true. I find it always weird when on podcasts like on Whatever, looks are being brought up but then there is a sentiment, that men judge looks more harshly than females when it is clearly and evidently not the case. Most men like most females. Most females hate most men.
 
They're 100% chadsexual anyway
 
my chad mutual on twitter said he fucks women who say their lesbian and they don't tell people they don't fuck him so they are perfomative faggots
 

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