LifeFuel Great Article Attacking SJWs for Their Hypocritical Treatment of "Incels"

[RageAgainstTDL]

Really great and brilliant article. Highly recommend the read. The truth is on our side.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/05/incels-sexual-revolution-loneliness/

 

[Mainländer]

Good call out on the solipsism of women.

 

[RodgersSecondAdvent]

High IQ article. I hate leftist liberals so fucking much.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

This is one of the best treatments of the problem I've seen yet. One of the most salient points, one that I've happily seen a number of people catch on to, is this:

When discussing incels, leftists sound like Darwinians who believe society has properly excised these dregs from the genetic pool. But for protected classes, they quickly shift back to being radical egalitarians who there’s an inherent right to sex.

The Crust band Dystopia also recgonized this back in '97, remarkably:

if you follow instructions
and do as youre told
life will be much easier
theyll fit you in the mold
theyre working for a better world
harmonious, and new
peace, love, and unity
except for you and you and you....

You need only take a trip over to SphincterTears to see this in action. Note the spiteful glee these wastes express unreservedly:

"It's not like we'll have to worry about them breeding anyway lmao. Good riddance"

To probe a bit further: "Our ideal society's only a generation away! Hail the arrival of the new sex-positive, fat-positive, LGBTQIWTF+-positive Sodom, where everyone's beautiful but the ugly!"

Fuck these scum. I grow angrier with these greedy solipsists by the day.

 

[Asianmanletcel]

can't read shit they want to be whitelisted first

 

[acnescarcel]

i wish the sjw cult would just mass suicide already.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

One of the things that's interesting to me is that it appears our greatest allies will be conservatives and libertarians.

Not because they necessarily care about us. But rather because we make perfect examples they can use to highlight how broken SJW liberalism is.

These are the most favorable takes so far on our predicament:

1) Libertarian illustrating how ridiculous income redistribution is if you simultaneously oppose sex redistribution:

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/a-pullable-thread-of-the-social-fabric.html

2) Conservative explaining how we are a natural result of SJW policies that favor the notion of a "right to sex", how this will lead to sex robots and legal hookers, and how he thinks the answer is a return to religious monogamy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html

3) Conservative stating that our society has replaced "God" with sex, and thus it is natural to expect men to feel unfulfilled and frustrated:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/sex-is-god-for-incel-sexless/

4) Conservative illustrating how SJW policies only apply to "protected classes" for liberals, so we are ridiculed instead of supported:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/05/incels-sexual-revolution-loneliness/

Only one liberal writer (Dan Savage) has thus far been supportive of our problems:

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/20...l-deprivation-sex-workers-incels-and-violence

I find all of this somewhat ironic as I have been a social liberal my whole life. I support gay rights. I don't care what gender people want to identify as. But now my greatest allies are conservatives. While liberals call me a "terrorist" and "mysogynist" solely because I can't get a date on POF.

The world is funny sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

One of the things that's interesting to me is that it appears our greatest allies will be conservatives and libertarians.

Not because they necessarily care about us. But rather because we make perfect examples they can use to highlight how broken SJW liberalism is.

These are the most favorable takes so far on our predicament:

1) Libertarian illustrating how ridiculous income redistribution is if you simultaneously oppose sex redistribution:

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/a-pullable-thread-of-the-social-fabric.html

2) Conservative explaining how we are a natural result of SJW policies that favor the notion of a "right to sex", how this will lead to sex robots and legal hookers, and how he thinks the answer is a return to religious monogamy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html

3) Conservative stating that our society has replaced "God" with sex, and thus it is natural to expect men to feel unfulfilled and frustrated:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/sex-is-god-for-incel-sexless/

4) Conservative illustrating how SJW policies only apply to "protected classes" for liberals, so we are ridiculed instead of supported:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/05/incels-sexual-revolution-loneliness/

Only one liberal writer (Dan Savage) has thus far been supportive of our problems:

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/20...l-deprivation-sex-workers-incels-and-violence

I find all of this somewhat ironic as I have been a social liberal my whole life. I support gay rights. I don't care what gender people want to identify as. But now my greatest allies are conservatives. While liberals call me a "terrorist" and "mysogynist" solely because I can't get a date on POF.

The world is funny sometimes.

Haven't read the Savage article, but the rest are pretty insightful, barring the ignorantly moralizing National Review piece.

But to pass into the realm of conjecture:

Related to the notion of a conservative-incel reactionary coalition: if the right conditions and actors materialiaze, we might well see the emergence of the same patterns that characterized 1920s/1930s Germany. It's astonishing how everything seems poised to assume its role in the reenactment and awaits only a suitable catalyst. The otherwise bullshit Guardian article on incels notes Theweleit's psychoanalysis of the sexual frustrations of the Freikorps in Male Fantasies, the key piece of the metaphor we provide. In the canopic domain of political engagement, we see a coterie of eunuchs in media and government trying tirelessly to Weimarize culture, civil society, and state. If an alliance is struck between the unmoored and despised underclass of dispossessed males and old money/nouveau riche Conservatives (imagine something like the alarmist Trump/Alt-Right hysteria given genuine, tangible form), there might be some serious paroxysms ahead. Things are just waiting for the inevitable economic crisis to hit and a few opportunists to channel energies. Better hope no one's got any bad ideas:

 

[Weed]

Legend

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

One of the things that's interesting to me is that it appears our greatest allies will be conservatives and libertarians.

Not because they necessarily care about us. But rather because we make perfect examples they can use to highlight how broken SJW liberalism is.

These are the most favorable takes so far on our predicament:

1) Libertarian illustrating how ridiculous income redistribution is if you simultaneously oppose sex redistribution:

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/a-pullable-thread-of-the-social-fabric.html

2) Conservative explaining how we are a natural result of SJW policies that favor the notion of a "right to sex", how this will lead to sex robots and legal hookers, and how he thinks the answer is a return to religious monogamy:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html

3) Conservative stating that our society has replaced "God" with sex, and thus it is natural to expect men to feel unfulfilled and frustrated:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/sex-is-god-for-incel-sexless/

4) Conservative illustrating how SJW policies only apply to "protected classes" for liberals, so we are ridiculed instead of supported:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/05/incels-sexual-revolution-loneliness/

Only one liberal writer (Dan Savage) has thus far been supportive of our problems:

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/20...l-deprivation-sex-workers-incels-and-violence

I find all of this somewhat ironic as I have been a social liberal my whole life. I support gay rights. I don't care what gender people want to identify as. But now my greatest allies are conservatives. While liberals call me a "terrorist" and "mysogynist" solely because I can't get a date on POF.

The world is funny sometimes.

This. Before I became black pilled I was largely liberal in my beliefs, but becoming black pilled and finding myself regarded as being an enemy to the left simply as a result of being an incel made me question a lot of my liberal beliefs and become more sympathetic to conservatives and libertarians.

 

[Fontaine]

It's pretty much everything I've been arguing for ages. The left is inundated with massive hypocrites who will preach equality when it suits then and then backtrack when it suddenly doesn't suit them any way.

Politics have been since the beginning about class warfare and self-interest of each social category. Sometimes the self-interests aligned, sometimes not. It cannot be any other way since in every city there will be the dominants and dominated. Gradually this primal struggle for power and advantages became devious and dishonest, hiding behind abstract (but ultimately empty) words like fatherland, liberty or justice.

I like the Marxists because they are completely honest about this: they want to murder the baron, take his manor and feast on his wine and preserves.

Everyone else is just like the Marxists but in a more dishonest way. They sell you justice, but you quickly realize that in their particular brand of justice, they and their friends stand to win while you stand to lose. As George Orwell famously wrote, in equality some are more "equal" than others.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Wow, and now we have the first great feminist article on our plight:

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2018/05/05/the-rise-incels/15254424006185

When even the feminists are understanding us, we are making progress. She may not have any solutions to offer, but at least she understands. That's a start. This is one of my favorite articles so far.


... Patriarchal security, delivered through monogamous marriage, ensured that most heterosexual men could be sure of accessing sex, affection, reproductive labour and so on, through marrying a wife. During the past 50 years, this security has evaporated. Out of the ashes of compulsory marriage has emerged a more or less free market in sex. Like the supersession of feudalism by capitalism, this state of affairs has produced some big pros and some big cons.

On one hand, women are granted measures of self-determination that would have been unimaginable in the past. We are no longer considered patriarchal chattel. I do not yearn to return to a time when my personal activities would be ruthlessly policed, and my sexuality strictly regulated, to ensure a stable society.

On the other hand, the death of these rules, as with the death of feudal rules, produces a ruthless and unstable state of competition between individuals for resources. This expresses itself most intensely in inceldom. When women are free to choose their sexual partners, they understandably tend towards men who are some combination of attractive, psychologically stable and financially secure. The free market, as always, isn’t exactly free – it produces winners and losers, and the sorting of people into these categories corresponds closely to various forms of unearned advantage, such as physical looks, inherited wealth, the benefit of early socialisation and competent parenting, and so on.

It seems the reason incels are largely unresponsive to the rising tide of radical leftism in first-world countries is because it cannot guarantee them a girlfriend. This is where the analogy between economic and sexual liberalism breaks down – it is possible, highly desirable even, to distribute material resources in a way that produces some measure of equality between people. If one accepts women’s inherent entitlement to personal freedom, the same cannot be said of sex. The best that the left can offer to incels is the hope that, under conditions of diminished competition for material resources, sexual competition might also recede.

Incels are not unaware of this. Many post on leftist forums and imageboards, pleading, demanding to know: “What will happen to incels under socialism? Will the state allocate us girlfriends?” How can we respond to this in a convincing way, without affirming twisted feelings of ownership over women? I don’t know.

Once you see the depths of desperation in incels, their unresponsiveness to traditional patriarchal revanchism on one hand and socialism on the other, it becomes easier to understand why many are so obsessed with destruction and vengeance. There is nothing left for them here, or at least it can feel like that, and in that absence grows an entitlement and distorted reality nourished by patriarchy and the papered-over misogyny that accompanies it. As Houellebecq’s Our Hero says, “Only suicide hovers above me, gleaming and inaccessible.”

 

[Deleted member 2798]

The nexus between Houellebecq’s depiction of male sexual alienation in the 1990s and incel culture in the present points to an underlying feature of life under modern capitalism for many young heterosexual men. It’s difficult to acknowledge the descriptive correctness of this position without giving the prescriptive features of inceldom succour, but I have found this to be the most fruitful way of looking at things.

Women have been rivalrous goods in human civilisation for a very long time. This is not some quirk of ideology out of which we could have educated ourselves: it has been a crucial fact of material reality. Different societies have mitigated the disruptive potential of this rivalry in different ways, but most have used variations on the social structure we now call patriarchy. In order for society to be able to reproduce itself in a more or less peaceful fashion, women have been reduced to the status of property, with various taboos, prohibitions and institutions governing our behaviour.

Well hey, she actually manages to divine the essence of the problem, an astonishing feat for a cogitating hole. But then:

I do not yearn to return to a time when my personal activities would be ruthlessly policed, and my sexuality strictly regulated, to ensure a stable society.

"I don't care about the preservation of social order if I can't fuck Chad." Where most holes are unthinkingly self-serving, this one, aware of its own egoism, celebrates it outright.

More than anything, this serves to remind that even if there was the possibility to "enlighten" sex defenders, there will never be an incel-feminist concordat. To be exceptionally conciliatory to their bullshit, you could say at most that this is a battle of rival entitlements: they have no more right to prioritize interpersonal masturbation over the future of civilization than we do to flaut constructions of "bodily autonomy" to get a piece.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Well hey, she actually manages to divine the essence of the problem, an astonishing feat for a cogitating hole. But then:

I do not yearn to return to a time when my personal activities would be ruthlessly policed, and my sexuality strictly regulated, to ensure a stable society.

"I don't care about the preservation of social order if I can't fuck Chad." Where most holes are unthinkingly self-serving, this one, aware of its own egoism, celebrates it outright.

More than anything, this serves to remind that even if there was the possibility to "enlighten" sex defenders, there will never be an incel-feminist concordat. To be exceptionally conciliatory to their bullshit, you could say at most that this is a battle of rival entitlements: they have no more right to prioritize interpersonal masturbation over the future of civilization than we do to flaut constructions of "bodily autonomy" to get a piece.

100%. This is the best response we can get from a feminist. They want redistribution and socialization of everything except the sexual marketplace. There, they would prefer the further consolidation of sex among the Chads and a return to classic animalistic harems.

No, they don't care about lesser men or trying to make us happy. nor do they care about the harms "sexual liberation" is causing society.

That's why all the other feminist articles are trying to paint us as monsters and the enemy. We ARE the enemy, because we show how hypocritical and careless they truly are. They want us to disappear.

I appreciated this article because she gets it even if she has no solution to offer.

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

It's too logical, too level-headed. Cucks like IncelQueers are incapable of recognizing their glaring hypocrisy and double standards.

 

[Ritalincel]

It's too logical, too level-headed. Cucks like IncelQueers are incapable of recognizing their glaring hypocrisy and double standards.

 

[FlyFace]

High IQ stuff famalam. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Redpill Robert]

My opinion of The Daily Caller is generally low, but great article.

 

[InebriatedIrish]

If only global politics wasn’t so negatively charged, then this whole thing wouldn’t be an issue.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Another reasonably supportive article. This one from a "Professor of Philosophy, Emeritus, at Providence College, Rhode Island".

https://www.mercatornet.com/mobile/view/incel-2-how-not-to-respond-to-this-rebellion

People will get it eventually. Keep in mind these people haven't read all the research we have so it's still a new concept for them.

It's our job to keep the scientific blackpills on hand and spread them whenever we can.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

God loving conservatives are loving our existence as to them we serve as direct proof the sexual revolution was flawed and life would be better under Christian morals. I am an atheist but I think they are seeing it correctly. The church's enforcement of marriage and no premarital sex was a stabilizing influence in society and we are destabilized without it.

One article quite empathetic to our plight:

"It’s no more insane than telling young men that sex is everything, exposing them to countless hours of pornography, and then being shocked when these young men feel “cheated.” As we say, ideas have consequences, and bad ideas have victims. The victims of the sexual revolution are really adding up."

http://breakpoint.org/2018/05/the-incel-movement-and-the-redistribution-of-what/

Another article telling us to go to church so we can meet chicks there:

https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2018/05/28/incel-advice-start-going-to-church/

I can't believe the religious right is now my ally.