Genetics or Environment the Cause of Your Inceldom?

[Drekavac]

My biological father had chad bones yet grew up in poverty while my mom has a weak jaw yet she grew up eating good and diverse food. Its a personal experience but still. My older brother was a mouthbreather too yet his jaw and face was not affected while i was hard mewing since my teens just to end up recessed like my mother. All personal experiences ofc but

Your dad may just have better genes sure. But this is also affected by how his ancestors ate. And I agree with your point here

I would say most of us just got bad genetic recombination, i know for myself if i got luckier with who i got certain features from (for example my mother has light coloured eyes but a weak jaw and i got her weak jaw and then i get my fathers dark dead eyes, my dad has a strong jaw but i get my moms etc) its just luck.

But I believe diet still has a bigger impact than you think and could have saved a lot of us

 

[m3nt4Lbl0ck3d]

Both lmao

 

[Drekavac]

I think while diet does have some impact people like goatis grossly overrate how much of an impact. I also think the average middle class person gets enough nutrients for his face to be atleast normally developed.

Think of what the average person eats man. Here in j*wrope veganism is highest its ever been, low fat diets, medicine, pesticide and natural toxin filled food etc. The last time they've eaten an animal organ was maybe when they were 5.

 

[Drekavac]

I think while diet does have some impact people like goatis grossly overrate how much of an impact. I also think the average middle class person gets enough nutrients for his face to be atleast normally developed.

I dont know how big of an impact it is. But it's definitely enough to notice it. As I said in my last comment we wouldn't have become chads with a perfect diet from birth but a lot would have become average atleast thats what I believe.

 

[DutchCel01]

Think of what the average person eats man. Here is j*wrope veganism is highest its ever been, low fat diets, medicine, pesticide and natural toxin filled food etc. The last time they've eaten an animal organ was maybe when they were 5.

I just dont think humans need that much for proper growth, although ive been talking to chatgpt a lot since we started this discussion about it and it seems stuff like mouthbreathing does have a real effect. It still put genes above it though. I guess there is multiple factors, genes,habits,diet.

 

[Allah (Real)]

Primates (Including Humans)

In the wild, retrognathia is rare in non-human primates, but it can occasionally occur due to developmental issues. In humans, it's a common orthodontic concern and can affect speech, breathing, and appearance.

I'm not a diet coper but genes don't exist in a vacuum. Ask yourself why is it so much more common in humans than in other primates. I don't know the answer but there's something going on.

 

[Drekavac]

I just dont think humans need that much for proper growth, although ive been talking to chatgpt a lot since we started this discussion about it and it seems stuff like mouthbreathing does have a real effect. It still put genes above it though. I guess there is multiple factors, genes,habits,diet.

Alright then if you don't believe it whatever idk what else to say. You can tell me evidence if you have any about the mouthbreathing but i believe its a myth and is based on fact that people who mouthbreathe have badly developed faces. This is true. But what they don't understand is that this is simply because it's not developed enough to not mouthbreathe. The mouthbreathing isn't affecting the growth. They always love to talk about the symptoms without addressing the cause. Depression? Find a cope, take drugs. Youre sick and coughing? Take this medicine that will stop you from coughing but doesn't do anything against the sickness, you have acne? Do this skincare routine etc. It's perfect for profit. If it actually helped you they would have lost a customer.

 

[DutchCel01]

Alright then if you don't believe it whatever idk what else to say. You can tell me evidence if you have any about the mouthbreathing but i believe its a myth and is based on fact that people who mouthbreathe have badly developed faces. This is true. But what they don't understand is that this is simply because it's not developed enough to not mouthbreathe. The mouthbreathing isn't affecting the growth. They always love to talk about the symptoms without addressing the cause. Depression? Find a cope, take drugs. Youre sick and coughing? Take this medicine that will stop you from coughing but doesn't do anything against the sickness, you have acne? Do this skincare routine etc. It's perfect for profit. If it actually helped you they would have lost a customer.

MOuthbreathing is a symptom sure but it can be caused by stuff unrelated to your facial development (in my case allergies to dust) i do believe you we just differ in how much impact it has.

 

[Thaway]

I wish it was all genetics, i would be better off. Everyone in my family is at least 5/10 except me. All genetics is cope, objectively speaking.

Well wish no more, it IS all genetics. You seem to be under the assumption, that for some reason you were supposed to have a certain genetic blueprint just because your family members did. Not sure why you'd think this. You were simply unlucky and got runt of the litter genes.

 

[Fluoxymesterone]

Well wish no more, it IS all genetics. You seem to be under the assumption, that for some reason you were supposed to have a certain genetic blueprint just because your family members did. Not sure why you'd think this. You were simply unlucky and got runt of the litter genes.

Might be. But still i had premature puberty and unnatural puberty because of medication. Ultimately that kinda fucked me up and is entirely envoiremental. Also i have wide hips wich is entirely hormonal and maybe also a cause of my unnatural puberty, so envoirement was definetly a strong factor

 

[Thaway]

Alright then if you don't believe it whatever idk what else to say. You can tell me evidence if you have any about the mouthbreathing but i believe its a myth and is based on fact that people who mouthbreathe have badly developed faces. This is true. But what they don't understand is that this is simply because it's not developed enough to not mouthbreathe. The mouthbreathing isn't affecting the growth. They always love to talk about the symptoms without addressing the cause. Depression? Find a cope, take drugs. Youre sick and coughing? Take this medicine that will stop you from coughing but doesn't do anything against the sickness, you have acne? Do this skincare routine etc. It's perfect for profit. If it actually helped you they would have lost a customer.

It's a typical normie trait to confuse causation and correlation.

 

[Rapistcel]

Have been genuinely curious about this for a long while, would be a shame if most of our suffering could have been avoided.

Both

 

[DreamCoper]

The basis is always genetics. Sure you can make people grow with the right nutrition but only as much as their genes allow it. So fundamentally genetics is everything.

Nigga my genes allowed me to be Chad, but my face got fucked up by plaigocephaly, I already stated in a reply on here exactly what you said. But I think a large proportion of extreme ugliness (people on site) is caused by environmental fuckery.

 

[AsiaCel]

Both

 

[fullofchagrin]

Have been genuinely curious about this for a long while, would be a shame if most of our suffering could have been avoided.

i would say 20% genetics, 80% upbringing by parents

 

[Thaway]

Nigga my genes allowed me to be Chad

Insane cope, maybe try out reddit they drown in delusional takes like that over there.

 

[DreamCoper]

Did you read anything I have written?

 

[DreamCoper]

You just a shitskin wallowing over how your parents didn’t know what a condom was?

 

[Anthrofurrcel]

One word: Lysenko

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

Genetics

 

[ArabAndFramecel]

We are blackpilled, we know that its all about genetics

Environnement is a cope for redpillers

 

[syberkozi]

i would say both

 

[Runt171]

Have been genuinely curious about this for a long while, would be a shame if most of our suffering could have been avoided.

Both
I already had somewhat shitty genes but had I developed properly I would still be below average but I would probably be a 5’8 somewhat small framed ltn/mtn so I would have been able to cope alot better with life

Instead my development went as terribly as possible
I had insomnia and barely slept I had barely any appetite because of depression and at one point I even stopped eating because I was sick of my life and apparently I nearly died from that so that probably had a big effect on my shitty frame

I also barely went out in the sun because I was so used to staying inside
I became somewhat of a shut in as a kid after being bullied and abused by the kids who lived on my street so I couldn’t even go out if I wanted to

Neva began