It's just the way things are, what do you want me to do, take society back 10 years when nobody knew about our secret club? It's gonna be a while before human trials on my time machine.
do you realize that you write like someone that learned online terminology from a file and is trying to fit in?
Also, 10 years ago it was already over, 2007 is without a doubt the turning point, just based on the accumulation of events in that year.
Also, its not about tribalism and "muh secrit club". If you had ever engaged in anything that required braincels or effort you would know that normies are not even capable of appropriating anything of value. Instead they corrupt and destroy it over time. There is nothing that was once "ours" and is now "theirs".
"Theirs" is a bad facsimile of a very specific ethos that used to exist and still exists in the right placement.
What we experienced was not an appropriation but a big scale drowning out and replacement of the original userbase of the internet.
The implication of this is of course that the amount of people like us has roughly stayed the same only that in comparison it has now been reduced to a fart bubble in an ocean of shit.
What normalfags do is more akin to the forming of cargo cults, where they take stuff from groups like us, copy it and alter it without ever understanding its origins or meaning. This is still happening right now.
Normies dont invent shit and their "memes" are blown up phantoms that vanish as fast as they appear.
Meanwhile, the same type of spirit from 10+ years ago still lingers and keeps drip feeding them potent meme fuel, a fuel that is pregnant with the seed of truth.
This is why nobody remembers a meme from 2 months ago but the concepts of chads, incels, stacies etc... still stay a float and refuse to die.
Because the truth reaffirms itself, its self evident and inherently justifies itself.
So normies have not done shit, they still depend on small movements like us for their supply of actualy thought provoking content.
Again, if you werent a fuckin 50 year old psychologist foid from fucking berkely or some other typcial intelligence shithole, you would instinctively understand all of this. Almsot every single normalfag meme that lasts for longer than the usual 2 weeks can be traced back to a place like this forum or a thread on some imageboard.
The entire jojo meme shit for example can be traced back to a singular source, a couple of collab threads on 4chan.
Again, everytime you talk you proove that you know nothing and at best you are a failed fucking normalfag.
You keep ass-fuckig yourself with your "im just nicer than other people" shit. Nobody that has ever spent time online in an all-male-space for any significant amount of time has that attitude. The rough exchange in these places is the equivalent of boys roughhousing in real life. Its part of the subcultural ethos and 100% masculine in nature. Again, everything points to you being a foid again and again and again.
Do you understand what I am saying?
Normalfags always dominated the internet, this type of weeb and cuck worship garbage has always existed online.
I've talked to people way older than me that used to do erp back in the 90s and they said that cuck shit and degenerate fetishes were already ultra common with people back then.
Again this shit is cucked as fuck, it's the most normalfag shit there is and the fact that you cant even differentiate between this and genuine subculture that cant be subverted due to the nature of its content is very telling.
This forum alone is proof of what I am saying. The pro-male/right wing movement in society basically started in tandem with the cultural revolution of the 60s and continued throughout the 80s with books like Lawrence Shannons "The Predatory Female", eventually made the jump to the internet (the well known "how to fire your wife" pdf is from 2004) and then created PUA as a side effect (PUAs just were opportunists, pua was a symptom, not the disease). This now decade-long current of truth eventually spawned shit like mgtow, incel culture, the neo right wing youth and many other things. This forum is just another tiny pearl in this chain of truth.
Normies didnt do shit. They have no culture, they have no ethos, no affilations.
Thats us, we are the driving force, we are the catalyst.
If normies now make jojo memes or watch anime is inconsequential.
We have moved on, the ball is rolling and we are ahead of the curve yet again.
So, saying that nagatoro is not normalshit is ludicrous. Its 100% kiked due to the fact alone that is chiefly plays only into the sexually deprived psyche of young men. In that way it is exploitative and morally reprehensible to consume and support such a piece of manipulative dreg.
This is a 100% normalfag angle and can be observed in nigh every single piece of media that becomes popular with them.
Take game of thrones for example. What was part of the big appeal initially? Oh right, theres dick shots and boobies and peepee in poopoo sex woooawoowyy
how exciting.
Tfu on you and your crew of lab buddies that are undoubtely jotting down every single utterance of perceived malevolence on this forum,
all the while they consume media at home that was influenced and brought to the light by people likeminded to incels.
Tfu, tfu and tfu.
I see your point now. You’re worried about the effects that can have on males when it comes to relationships. For me , it’s different , I enjoy it as a fantasy and nothing else
see, this is a reasonable reply. He is making a differentiated argument while acknowleding my position at the same time.
Glory to you
@AlexanderTheGreat11