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Theory Forming a community consensus on the height problem

Even 6' is short these days
 
you have again missed the main element

if you are chad and a manlet HEIGHT IS IRRELEVANT

FOR EVERYONE THAT IS NOT OVER 7/10 FACE HEIGHT IS RELEVANT

If you are so wise YOU THE FUCK HAVE YOU NOT WORKED OUT THIS SIMPLE CONCEPT THAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE WITNESSED EVERY DAMN DAY

face of chad makes every other stat irrelevant, even status and money

face of non chad makes every other stat HUGELY OVER EMPHASIZED AND DEAL BREAKERS EG HEIGHT MONEY AND STATUS
A chad cannot be manlet. Chad is a combination of face+frame+height. While I agree that being 5'6 and chad face is not death sentence, your potential mates pool is significantly reduced due to "I don't feel comfortable to date a guy who is shorter than me when I'm on heels". And in European countries where the height of average young white foid is about 5'7 barefoot, it's close to "it's over".
 
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If you are in the west especially with young people (non Hispanic) it is manlet tier.
"The West" is way too vague. There ARE variations from one country to another.
 
<5'7 manlet
5'8-5'10 short
5'11-6 neutral
6'1-6'3 tall
6'4+ very tall
That is far more realistic, maybe 5'10" is not "short". Meh, as I said above depends on the country.
 
That is far more realistic, maybe 5'10" is not "short". Meh, as I said above depends on the country.
5'10 could be also neutral, 5'9 somewhat starts to look visibly short.
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<5'9 is manlet
>5'9 and <6'2 nobody cares
>6'2 :feelsohh::panties: "so tall"

Nobody cares about you or your height unless you're a <5'9 manlet or a >6'2 giant.
 
Man, I'm 5'5" :feelsrope:
Over bro, at that height it doesn't even matter how you look. You're invisible. I'm 5'3 and I get heightmogged by 12yo.
 
I agree. But this graph is inaccurate some the heights on there are different than the ones on celebheights
Celebs heightfraud a lot. You can't really trust them. Many people who met Tom Cruise irl swear he is strong 5'9 5'10
 
A chad cannot be manlet. Chad is a combination of face+frame+height. While I agree that being 5'6 and chad face is not death sentence, your potential mates pool is significantly reduced due to "I don't feel comfortable to date a guy who is shorter than me when I'm on heels". And in European countries where the height of average young white foid is about 5'7 barefoot, it's close to "it's over".
tom cruise
 
Celebs heightfraud a lot. You can't really trust them. Many people who met Tom Cruise irl swear he is strong 5'9 5'10
I agree. The graph futher looks inaccurate to proper height ratio. Some of othe ne inch height differences look more than one inch.
 
5 foot 10 and 6 foot 1 there is so little gap

its insane in my mind the gap in SMV compared to the REALITY OF THE PHYSICAL GAP, AND THE VERY LITTLE ADVANTAGE IT WOULD GIVE PHYSICALLY IN A FIGHT OR PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
Its all about aesthetics and mogging. People make a huge fuss about inch or two when there's barely any difference..
 
Over bro, at that height it doesn't even matter how you look. You're invisible. I'm 5'3 and I get heightmogged by 12yo.
I really fucking hate that. Being heightmogged by teenagers, like what the absolute fuck is that world we live in
 
I am 5'11 and twice already girls were shocked "that i was so short". I would give 3 inches of height for a facial point easily.
 
Where did that occur?
First a girlfriend of a friend of mine called me out on being too short to be hooked up with her female friends and once a drunk girl rejected me because i was too short for her.
 
tom cruise
Statusmaxxed and moneymaxxed manlet with 10/10 face. If not the "I'm dating Tom Cruise!!11!!!!" thing he will be rejected by tons of foids who will gladly will date 6'2 with 7/10 face.
 
Would say North America, Australia, South Africa as well as most of Europe (excluding nordic countries)
Average male height:
North America: 5'9.7"
Australia: 5'10.5"
South Africa: 5'6.5"

https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php (average male height per country, in the 18-25 range)


Yeah no sorry, outside nordic countries 5'10" is NOWHERE NEAR manlet tier.

Btw, I'm 5'5" and I live in France. So as far as I'm concerned, it's completely over for me.
 
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First a girlfriend of a friend of mine called me out on being too short to be hooked up with her female friends and once a drunk girl rejected me because i was too short for her.
No I mean in which country like what the hell
 
Height > Face
TALLFAGS ARE THE SAME AS FOIDS AND ONLY COME HERE TO SEEK ATTENTION CUZ THEY ARE TOO BORED IRL
 
An important thing to remember is that most men inflate their height by 2-3 inches. The number of 5'9/5'10 white guys I know who swear they're 6'0/6'1 is pretty funny. I'm 6'0.5 morning height or 5'11.5 before bed and some of these copers will say "no way bro, you're like 6'2/6'3" when I say I'm 6'0 flat.
 
Anyone below 5'8 is manlet.
5'5 and below are giga tubro manlets.
5'8-5'11 is average.
6'0-61 is above average
6'2 and more is tall.
 
Every normie I saw that had a GF was average height, one was a bit taller
Those 2 girls are really worse lol
There is a normie shorter than me who is already being twice divorced.
 
During my time to ahem “ascend” meaning in my own teen years no girl ever rejected me giving reasons of lack of height of which I was and still am 5ft10 and three quarters. :feelshehe:
Women are known for their honesty with these matters...
 
Women are known for their honesty with these matters...
Seen plenty of girls with guys of my height and less.

Just never with me.

Ultimately my problem came down to a sub 7 face.
 
Even in SEA the zoomers are taller than the previous generations. So I would say the average for 25-30yo males would be about 170cm (5 ft5) for 18-25yos would be 175cm (5 ft7), not including the super impoverished parts of course,,
 
Even in SEA the zoomers are taller than the previous generations. So I would say the average for 25-30yo males would be about 170cm (5 ft5) for 18-25yos would be 175cm (5 ft7), not including the super impoverished parts of course,,
This post contained the wrong inch conversion; 170 cm is millimeters under 5'7 and 175 cm is millimeters under under 5'9.
 
Everything matters. If you Are ugly 5'6 plumber Then The odds Are Grim. My 5'6.5" friends makes 50k a year which is good here in Finland. Has a decent gf
 
Statusmaxxed and moneymaxxed manlet with 10/10 face. If not the "I'm dating Tom Cruise!!11!!!!" thing he will be rejected by tons of foids who will gladly will date 6'2 with 7/10 face.
BBBBBBUT ITS NOT JEEEEZ STATUS THOUGH

there are many tom cruise 9+/10 face chads IN THE GENERAL POPULATION DOING NORMIE JOBS (PROBABLY MANAGERS AS USUAL) that are manlets you donkey

now where is your logic

AAAAND THEY STILL GET THE LOOKISM LOOKS HALO TO A DEGREE
AAAAND STILL GET WOMEN

BBBUT JUST NOT AS MUCH OF A HALO AS A TALL CHAD
IN FACT THE ONLY PERSON TO MOG SMALL CHAD IS TALL CHAD SO HE IS STILL ABOVE MANY MANY MEN
 
5'9" is average for the last generations. Every inch below that lowers your smv exponentially.

That said, there are foids that are more into face, others have daddy issues are more into height. Some are gold-diggers who are more into money, others are social climbers who care more for status and connections, etc. So, there is a slight variation on how a foid calculates a man's SMV.

I have 5'4 coworkers who are married with kids. Their wives are probably not the "daddy's little girl" type.
 
This post contained the wrong inch conversion; 170 cm is millimeters under 5'7 and 175 cm is millimeters under under 5'9.
Oh my bad, I forgot that 1 foot doesn't = 10 in
 
Height isn't an obsession of incels but rather a reality of what foids want in their mates as a minimum requirement.

Foids don't understand how tall 6'0 is and they are perfectly content with 5'11 men. If you are almost 5'11 your sneakers will bump you up to that height, thus OP made the minimum requirement for height in dating. Nothing OP said has made me question the consensus knowledge of foid preference for tall males. OP was fortunate he was able to pass as datable during his youth
 

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