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Blackpill For Men Who Won't Escortcel Due To Pride

This is bordering on cuck propaganda, next you'll be saying incels should enter open relationships

If you use prostitutes, pay cam girls, buy porn, then you support female privilege

See the argument between me an @Sadist here to observe how easily such a false comparison falls apart, lets skip the whole me tricking you into admitting that the comparison is false and illogical, and have you watch it happen to someone else
I ask you to answer where you think findom and prostitution are equal, I did that on purpose, I used the word "equal" on purpose, because I'm trying to lead to what you can't deny, that paying for sex, and paying to watch a streamer jiggle her tits aren't equally as cucked, which was your first claim that started this argument, so now you are basically trapped JFL.

Now I'm going to ask you the same question, but instead of findom, I just throw in the variable from the beginning, e-whoring.

Notice how I basically just walked you back to the beginning argument lol.

Now were going from:

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS FINDOM, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

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IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS E-WHORING, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

What is you answer @Sadist :feelshmm::feelsthink:

Careful now

1. Say that they are both equal LIKE YOU DID BEFORE:

and you contradict your answer to the findom vs prostitution question where you admit that there are varying degrees and one is definitely "more cucked" than the other

2. Say that they aren't equal and you arrive back at square one, agreeing with me, and erasing basically the only argument that made me challenge your stance


2. See my comment to guys like you saying "don't do X" yet provide no solution/alternative:
Please lets get down to the brass and tacks, what are you offering, you see let me tell whats illogical, telling someone they should stop doing X and offering no feasible and comparable alternative. If you catch a man stealing fish, you can give him some fish, or you can teach him how to fish, but to simply tell him - "hey just stop stealing fish because its wrong and because I say so" is whats illogical.

So this question goes out to you and all the guys against paying for sex.

WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE?

Do without and suffer?
Kill ourselves?
Take drugs to lower our libido so we can live with it? (chemical castration)
Perhaps become a rapist?
Maybe a little physical castration?
Become muslim and move to one of those islamic states so we can get a wife?

WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS?

If you have none, then its you who is illogical.

BTW @BrendioEEE Solution/Alternative is Nazism, yes, that's his solution to sexual frustration to incels and how to "combat the system", in other words, fuck ethnic incels. I'll say it again, I rest my case, you guys have no actual logical arguments against this thing, you start off with false comparisons that you yourself know don't match up and are ridiculous, and you have no logical solutions, the thread is over, I've thorough proven my points.
 
Again a key thing I notice about illogical people is that they like, no they LOVE vague platitudes (google the word if you don't know what it is). Give some specific examples, how do incels, men who lack so much social status and power in a society that they can't even get sex, "combat what caused inceldom".
It's pretty simple, it's not vague, it's not my fault if you're too much of a brainlet to understand what I was saying/eluding to. Do what people did in the past to counter Inceldom, rise up, National Socialism was an Incel Revolution, in primitive eras many of the lower class men rose up against the tribal leader chad who hogged all the women, people rose up against tyrants and monarchs, and developed systems and cultures in place to gurantee women had no value unless they were with a man as a life partner, proper traditionalism.

There's nothing vague about this, it's really simple, and it's how civilization was working, evolving, and striving, until Feminism, Marxism, and other destructive forces broke down the family and brought sexual liberation and anarchy and multiculturalism.
1. Now I know for a fact you are blue pilled, love doesn't exist, its not a real thing, stop coping, its all just chemical reactions in your brain, lust is more real than love is, and even lust is just a chemical reaction, but at least lust has no "moral constraints" on it and it is congruent with our biology. Lust is logical and straight forward, "love" is emotional and illogical
Pretending love isn't real is a cope, everything is chemical reactions in your brain, that's not an argument.
2. JFL at caring about society at this point in your existence, you are definitely blue pilled, you must be a larp.
>Just don't care about society Goyim
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pride has nothing to do with my distaste for escortcelling
 
BTW @BrendioEEE Solution/Alternative is Nazism, yes
My solution is Civilized Traditonalism, it doesn't necessarily have to be National Socialism, but that obviously worked in the past, it could work again, just as many other forms worked in the past, just as Inceldom wasn't a problem in the civilized west 100 years ago.
 
Yeah so have I, you're wrong, I went to Univsersity, i've witnessed first hand these feminist gatherings, I've extensively studied marxist and feminist literature, there is some sex negativity, which tends to reinforce the type of sex positivity that they promote.

Radical Feminism was born on the back of the swinging sixties & as a counter to that. It's sexual conservatism at its finest masquerading as so called feminism. Your university means Didley squat. Everyone including sex positive feminists have said radical feminism is dressed up patriarchal conservative sexuality. How radical feminists get round it is to try & engineer it as promoting homosexuality for a cause & enforce it something like that failing that then they say okay. Then be celibate instead. Trust me I've done my research on radical feminism. I've fought with the scum. You haven't.

This one is about French Brothels they took over with no direct sources or evidence. I don't doubt that soldiers partook in degenerate actions abroad, I thought we were talking about Germany itself, or during times wartime was minimal. For example every army raped aswell, but some armies had much higher rape rates than others, and the one who had the lowest rape rates seemed to be the German's, a show of their moral superiority over the rest overall.

Linking an over an hour video is cool and all, but do you have any highlights to point out or evidence in the video you'd like me to address specifically?

Yeah and typically what pops up after a few seconds of googling tends to be Jewish Propaganda, but as I said if you have some sources, or specific bits of evidence so I could see the context, i'd be fine with that,

Again have you come back to show me they were against Escortcelling? No. Provide me the evidence. Try harder.

Escortcelling is for guys who can afford it at the detriment of everyone around them.

I fail to see how. Youre being moral puritan in a world which never had any morals to begin with. Cucked.


It's funny how you're trying to pull the I'M the Jew card when Jews have been pushing promiscuity and degeneracy for over 100 years now, and i'm pushing completely against it, if we're talking about Genetics, i'm not Ashkenazi a bit, I have the genetic tests to back that up, if I was I probably wouldn't even be on here because i'd be able to Just Be Jewish in Israel and sweep up some low IQ Israeli girl like h3h3 did.

Also I have plainly said on here many times i'm a National Socialist, I have encouraged people to read Mein Kampf, I am involved in NatSoc groups, etc, I just don't identify as one publicly or on video for Optics purposes.

You sound too much like a try hard purist. Your looks give you away 1st degree Mischling.
 
This is bordering on cuck propaganda, next you'll be saying incels should enter open relationships

If you use prostitutes, pay cam girls, buy porn, then you support female privilege

I think this was made in response to 1 of your threads tbh.
 
It's pretty simple, it's not vague, it's not my fault if you're too much of a brainlet to understand what I was saying/eluding to. Do what people did in the past to counter Inceldom, rise up, National Socialism was an Incel Revolution, in primitive eras many of the lower class men rose up against the tribal leader chad who hogged all the women, people rose up against tyrants and monarchs, and developed systems and cultures in place to gurantee women had no value unless they were with a man as a life partner, proper traditionalism.

>Its not vague
>"Rise Up"
>"Do what X people did, I will choose not to give an example of what they did, definitely not vague"

You've given no specifics, just ironically more vague BS. Don't say "rise up", say exactly what has to be done, if you can't, you're just talking out of your ass and offering nothing but vague platitudes.

"Stupid incel, you just need to "rise up" you fool, don't you get it, its not my fault you're too stupid to not read my fucking mind and know what I mean by "rise up", heck I don't know what I mean by "rise up", but you should defintely do it, do what those people in the past did, of course I'm not going to state any specifics on how they did it, stop being a brainlet and "rise up" maaaaaaan"

Friend, are you retarded, please google the word vague before you have the gall to even reply to me, please, just google vague, you clearly don't know what the word is.

everything is chemical reactions in your brain, that's not an argument.

You mean like the example I gave about lust

lust is more real than love is, and even lust is just a chemical reaction, but at least lust has no "moral constraints" on it and it is congruent with our biology. Lust is logical and straight forward, "love" is emotional and illogical.

Everything is a chemical reaction, but love socially veiled with SUBJECTIVE MORALITY

Pain is a chemical reaction, I know when I'm feeling pain its there, there is no morality behind it, its just a fact of reality, there is no vagueness or arbitrary thing about it,

Love is vague and arbitrary, a woman can cheat on a man and still claim to love him, and you can't state otherwise, a woman can love her child and then kill it due to post partum depression or some weird mental illness. Love isn't bound by logic, and there's too many loopholes to validate it, no matter what someone does they can claim they did it out of love, and you can't say otherwise because who are you to say they didn't love, you can't.

Lust is logical, pain is logical, they exist in a physical and social sense and are bound by logic, the same can't be said for love.

give me a tl;dr im not reading all that shit
TL;DR might be "too big" for you anyways, but here I go

1. Your comparison is illogical, @Sadist made the same BS comparison, I argued with and used a questoin to get him to admit that such comparisons are illogical

2. You guys say not to "do X" but offer no solutions or alternatives, you only offer vague platitudes. @BrendioEEE solution is nazism :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

To which my response is I rest my case, you guys are just talking out of your ass.

3. If you can't bother to read such a small amount of text why bother even make an argument, its really best you stay quiet.
 
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@BrendioEEE Sorry to break it to you. Sex industry isn't going away at all. Goodnight.
The point isn't to get you laid, the point is to drag women down with you by not letting them profit from your misery.

You assume just getting laid is the ultimate goal but really if you have to pay for it then you're no better than an incel. As I said your idea is the same as saying incels should enter into cuckolding relationships just to get laid, essentially telling people to let themselves be exploited for meagre gain.

I've never seen an Incel say Escortcelling is ascension nor will I. You can stand down with that one Mod. No-one is that stupid to argue otherwise.
 
As a truecel you can choose from two options: Die a virgin or die an escortcel. That is all there is to it.
 
Youre being moral puritan in a world which never had any morals to begin with. Cucked
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I'll never get incels like this who can't see the contradiction in being a moralfag, and having your stance be that women should be forced to restrict their desires for the sake of a stable society, that stance is also immoral, so stop focusing on morals, logic should be the foundation of your beliefs, these retards don't get that both sides are immoral, morality is irrelevant, if we were being completely moral here, we'd all just kill ourselves for being genetic defects and let Chads and Stacies breed in peace to weed out our inferior genes and let society truly propser, but no, we as incels are seeking out our own personal interests.

EARTH TO MORALFAGS - (@BrendioEEE and friends) There is nothing fucking moral about the changes we want to make in society, by restricting who women can fuck, we are forcing our wills upon them, we are infringing upon their free will for the sake of our happiness, morality is not a factor here, you idiots are fucking hypocrites, get off your high horse and be realistic and logical, were all "the bad guys", both sides, there is no good or bad, history decides who the protagonists are because its THE WINNERS WHO WRITE THE HISTORY BOOKS.
 
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I'll never get incels like this who can't see the contradiction in being a moralfag, and having your stance be that women should be forced to restrict their desires for the sake of a stable society, that stance is also immoral, so stop focusing on morals, logic should be the foundation of your beliefs, these retards don't get that both sides are immoral, morality is irrelevant, if we were being completely moral here, we'd all just kill ourselves for being genetic defects and let Chads and Stacies breed in peace to weed out our inferior genes and let society truly propser, but know, we as incels are seeking out our own personal interests.

EARTH TO MORALFAGS - (@BrendioEEE and friends) There is nothing fucking moral about the changes we want to make in society, by restricting who women can fuck, we are forcing our wills upon them, we are infringing upon their free will for the sake of our happiness, morality is not a factor here, you idiots are fucking hypocrites, get of your high horse and be realistic, were all "the bad guys", both sides, there is no good or bad, history decides who the protagonists are beacuse its THE WINNERS WHO WRITE THE HISTORY BOOKS.

:blackpill: like no other. Thanks amigo. Goodnight from the UK.
 
:blackpill: like no other. Thanks amigo. Goodnight from the UK.
Heck I have to make a thread on this now, too many fuckers on this site get to hide from this truth and moral fag. They need a wake up call.
 
Are you the black guy with yellow fever? I still don't understand how you can pay for hookers who aren't monster-tier, considering that most hookers refuse to fug blacks.
 
Are you the black guy with yellow fever? I still don't understand how you can pay for hookers who aren't monster-tier, considering that most hookers refuse to fug blacks.

I'm not in one of those countries, where blacks do shit like skip out on paying, etc. Its those kinds of practices that created that culture of whores refusing black customers. Black males being violent or trying to "run out on a bill", shit doesn't take place here so I guess that's why I don't get that.

But I only did this once, so maybe if I did it a few more times I'd come across that.
 
Radical Feminism was born on the back of the swinging sixties & as a counter to that. It's sexual conservatism at its finest masquerading as so called feminism. Your university means Didley squat. Everyone including sex positive feminists have said radical feminism is dressed up patriarchal conservative sexuality. How radical feminists get round it is to try & engineer it as promoting homosexuality for a cause & enforce it something like that failing that then they say okay. Then be celibate instead. Trust me I've done my research on radical feminism. I've fought with the scum. You haven't.
You're still being extremely daft about this for your own agenda. What is being pushed more by feminists, the left, the mainstream atm? Is it sex negative feminism? Or is it promiscuity, is it sex positivity, is it women being the same as men, and being allowed to make the same choices as men, is it the breakdown of traditional family values, etc.

There is nothing CONSERVATIVE about Feminism, what is it conserving? Tell me this.
Again have you come back to show me they were against Escortcelling? No. Provide me the evidence. Try harder.
You're the one who claimed they were, why is the onus on me? Are denying one of the main driving forces of the Rise of NatSoc Germany was The Weimar Republic, and The Degeneracy of Berlin? The mass prostitution of their women and children, and degenerancy and breakdown of the family? I mean that's pretty basic stuff, you should read Mein Kampf.
I fail to see how. Youre being moral puritan in a world which never had any morals to begin with. Cucked.
Because those women in an alternate traditonal society would have been married with children to their looksmatch instead of guzzling a bunch of upper middle class and above cum for money that goes to their pimps/agencies to help promote the desctruction of their society and their genetic duty as a species.
You sound too much like a try hard purist. Your looks give you away 1st degree Mischling.
It's just laughable you'd pretend traditionalism and purity is somehow me being a nefarious Jew thing, hmm I wonder who was pushing the exact opposite of that
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>Its not vague
>"Rise Up"
>"Do what X people did, I will choose not to give an example of what they did, definitely not vague"

You've given no specifics, just ironically more vague BS. Don't say "rise up", say exactly what has to be done, if you can't, you're just talking out of your ass and offering nothing but vague platitudes.

"Stupid incel, you just need to "rise up" you fool, don't you get it, its not my fault you're too stupid to not read my fucking mind and know what I mean by "rise up", heck I don't know what I mean by "rise up", but you should defintely do it, do what those people in the past did, of course I'm not going to state any specifics on how they did it, stop being a brainlet and "rise up" maaaaaaan"

Friend, are you retarded, please google the word vague before you have the gall to even reply to me, please, just google vague, you clearly don't know what the word is.
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@BrendioEEE solution is nazism :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

To which my response is I rest my case, you guys are just talking out of your ass.
You contradict yourself in the same post, my solution obviously isn't vague, if you know it's "Nazism", how about actually countering National Socialism then on why it's bad, you can't, because it did work in the past, you keep throwing off red herrings and non arguments. It doesn't even have to be National Socialism either, there are other conservative traditonalist models that would achieve similar results if you'd like me to bring up those aswell.

The fact of the matter is it all comes down to this, your own selfish lust and sexual addiction to escorts is clouding your logic and reason and is helping the very systems that hurt Incels. You're not Pro Incel, you're pro your own desires, you're a nihilistic reddit tier materialistic joke.


The big difference between Escortcels and I, is that I would remain Incel my entire life if it meant every other Incel could ascend and live a happy life, Escortcels would throw their society, their brothers, and everyone else under the bus for their own selfish desires. Despicable human beings, worse than any brainless roastie or normie.
 
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You contradict yourself in the same post, my solution obviously isn't vague, if you know it's "Nazism"

Retard that is still vague, I can see you didn't google what vague means, what kind of nazism, how do we implement it in society, how to we overthrow the status quo to implement that form of nazism, I doubt you are so retarded you plan on promoting a type of nazism that excludes or discriminates against ethnics when most incels are basically ethnic, so no its still vague, you've given no specifics.

If a guy tells me he's looking to lose weight, and my response is "Exercise", that's a vague response you retard, I didn't give him a work out routine stating which exercises, how many sets and reps per exercise, if any dietary changes are involved, etc.

Do you get what vague is now idiot, I have to insult you because you've proven yourself to be a complete imbecile and illogical.

Looks like you also need to google "contradiction"

Since I started going to escorts, I have masturbated a lot less. And it became the cope that I look forward the most. Its now something I look forward, instead of poisoning my mind thinking stupid things like killing myself.

You are right when you say that the lack of sex makes us emotional. It makes us desperate and we end up doing stupid decisions. Since I have my sex needs satisfied I can think a lot clearer now.

This, I had serious thoughts of suicide before I had sex for my first time, it wasn't even all that great and it ended all the anxiety, especially the fear of dying a virgin, any of those idiots arguing could just wake up tomorrow and not know what hit them, get in a car accident, etc, you don't know what could happen, saving yourself for "a perfect first time" is ridiculous.

I wish I was living where you were, I don't even know where to go, I had to get a friend to take me there for my first time, I want to try a different place next time, search for some more petite bitches. I don't even have a car so there's that too. There's a lot of shit I have to get in place before I can get to your point.
 
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@BrendioEEE I agree with you in somethings. Society needs to follow a strong moral compass. I am against degeneracy.

I don't know much about National Socialism. But I know that my country grew the most in the period that the army was in control. General Gustavo Rojas Pinilla saved Colombia from communism. After that, 1960, the left came into power and degeneracy only grew bigger each year.



Very noble of you to feel and say that. But reality is, even if you remain celibate your entire life, no Incel will ascend because of your celibacy. Even if you stop eating, children in Africa will still starve.

All the things we do, help The System. The things you buy, the electricity you use, the taxes you are forced to pay. All that is helping The System. Going to prostitutes is a drop in the ocean.


Those Incels are delusional. The perfect first time will never happen. It is one of those ideal situations that we play in our minds.

Its like the foids, they think that a handsome Prince will appear to them. Wearing a suit of silver shiny armor, upon a white horse, the perfect man.

And while they wait for that perfect man, they go from cock to cock, thinking that they are climbing some kind of social ladder. And after 1000 cocks and 32 abortions, Prince Chad will finally appear to marry them and they will live in a castle in England.

Foids ignore their looksmatch and Incels, because they have that delusion that a Prince Chad, a perfect man, is incredibly close and will appear at the next moment in their life.

Some Incels here have that kind of mentality. That if they don't go to prostitutes they will become closer to having a real girlfriend and do unpaid sex. Like I said, most of them are afraid or ashamed of going to prostitutes/escorts, so they say they have "pride".


The reason why i would not visit a prostitiute is because it's fucking humiliating and pathetic to pay for sex when majority of guys can get sexual partners whitout paying for it. I want a partner to be with. Not some dumb whore to throw my money on for 30 minutes of emotionless sex
 
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Retard that is still vague, I can see you didn't google what vague means, what kind of nazism, how do we implement it in society, how to we overthrow the status quo to implement that form of nazism, I doubt you are so retarded you plan on promoting a type of nazism that excludes or discriminates against ethnics when most incels are basically ethnic, so no its still vague, you've given no specifics.
National Socialism isn't vague. Also I don't believe most Incels are Ethnic, most Incels don't even identify with the word Incel because of its negative connotations, I support Racial Separatism HOWEVER, I don't support Racial Supremacy, I believe every race should implement a form of National Socialism for themselves, to make themselves rise to their fullest potential, Nations should work together, trade with eachother, etc, but we shouldn't live or breed together, just look at how much Asians/Mixed Race Men suffer in multicultural neighborhoods for proof of that.

Modern National Socialism is not Neo Nazi or Siegefag ideology, it's basically just Classical National Socialism ala Mein Kampf, and other teachings from the time, modernized a bit. For example you wont see someone who actually is a National Socialist and not a Nazi larper who will say for example, "Slavs are inferior".

Also how do you achieve/implement it in society? Slowly and steadily, the same way Marxists and Talmudic Fundamentalists use their tactics, you have to fight fire with fire. Truth always rises to the top, you shouldn't be putting Swastikas all over yourself, or optics wise identifying with anything related to Hitler or National Socialism, just spread certain points, things that benefit the ideology and in turn the society, slowly, and steadily. It's how feminists suddenly went from some niche group at universities, to being in almost every academic field and intellectual field.
Very noble of you to feel and say that. But reality is, even if you remain celibate your entire life, no Incel will ascend because of your celibacy. Even if you stop eating, children in Africa will still starve.
There might be a bit of a language barrier, i'm not saying that if I remain Incel, other people will ascend, you're right at comparing it to not eating doesn't help children in Africa from starving, however it'd be more like if Food was plentiful, and in the past for thousands of years slowly but steadily everyone wasn't starving, but then a foreign power comes along and monopolizes all the food, and the majority of the population has to eat nutrition bars made of ground up roaches, while women get to eat just about anything they want, and men can eat whatever they want as long as they pay a premium for it.

That's the problem. Cept swap in access to Food to Access to a life partner, by supporting the industry that benefits YOU when you could help fight against it in various different ways, and bring back stability and order the way it was in the past, to allow EVERYONE to eat if they wanted to, that's what you could do, that's what you should do.

So basically what i'm saying is, in a hypothetical scenario, if I got to choose between I get to have sex with whoever I want and never be Incel again, but everyone who is Incel and becomes Incel stays Incel forever, OR I have to stay Incel forever but nobody would be unhappy or suffer because of sexual/relationship because there'd be sexual parity and love between everyone else, i'd choose the second option even if I didn't get rewarded for it.
 
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Thankfully you don't need to make such a choice. Neither does anyone. You can have sex with an average escort and fight for a better future for Incels. One thing doesn't invalidate the other. You can eat and help feed others. Or at least help them remain strong until food arrives.

Don't ruin his strawman argument for him, he has to create moral ultimatums to attempt to make a point, because his arguments revolve around morals (emotions) and not logic.
 
You're still being extremely daft about this for your own agenda. What is being pushed more by feminists, the left, the mainstream atm? Is it sex negative feminism? Or is it promiscuity, is it sex positivity, is it women being the same as men, and being allowed to make the same choices as men, is it the breakdown of traditional family values, etc.

There is nothing CONSERVATIVE about Feminism, what is it conserving? Tell me this.

You're the one who claimed they were, why is the onus on me? Are denying one of the main driving forces of the Rise of NatSoc Germany was The Weimar Republic, and The Degeneracy of Berlin? The mass prostitution of their women and children, and degenerancy and breakdown of the family? I mean that's pretty basic stuff, you should read Mein Kampf.

Because those women in an alternate traditonal society would have been married with children to their looksmatch instead of guzzling a bunch of upper middle class and above cum for money that goes to their pimps/agencies to help promote the desctruction of their society and their genetic duty as a species.

It's just laughable you'd pretend traditionalism and purity is somehow me being a nefarious Jew thing, hmm I wonder who was pushing the exact opposite of that
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The big difference between Escortcels and I, is that I would remain Incel my entire life if it meant every other Incel could ascend and live a happy life, Escortcels would throw their society, their brothers, and everyone else under the bus for their own selfish desires. Despicable human beings, worse than any brainless roastie or normie.

If you've read a newspaper or anything recently the left are going full on sexual conservative. Feminism & Marxism is all about having control over women's bodies. Radical Feminism is exactly conservatism just Orwellian double speak.

I've got the book Mein Kampf. I've read it. I've even shown you that your beloved Nazi party realised they weren't going to stop escorting so they brought it under party control conveniently might I add. I've asked you for counter arguments & evidence. You've just said it's all Jewish propaganda. Surely Jewish propaganda would be to dehumanize Hitler & the Nazis into monsters rather than humanize them. Ps. You can defeat human people not hyperbole monsters. Same goes for Marxists & Bolsheviks.

Escortcels aren't upper middle class though. We just work. That's all & cope. Youre LARPing way to hard as a Nazi. For someone who hasn't done any activism for any "right wing movement" its painfully obvious to see.

What have you done to counter lookism the real factor in all of this. Ps lookism is racial & disability discrimination. Something your LARPing Chad demagogue encouraged btw although him & his military & party were all exempt. Again how convenient.
Thankfully you don't need to make such a choice. Neither does anyone. You can have sex with an average escort and fight for a better future for Incels. One thing doesn't invalidate the other. You can eat and help feed others. Or at least help them remain strong until food arrives.

Don't ruin his strawman argument for him, he has to create moral ultimatums to attempt to make a point, because his arguments revolve around morals (emotions) and not logic.

1st degree Mischling is going at it way too hard tbh. The LARP is strong with this 1 it would seem.
 
Looks like this site is divided between two separated categories : The sexcels (me, blackpillpres,etc.. And the validationcels who thinks that going to the p4p route is degrading.
 
Looks like this site is divided between two separated categories : The sexcels (me, blackpillpres,etc.. And the validationcels who thinks that going to the p4p route is degrading.

Black Pilled Realists vs Blue Pilled Idealists
 
It is for me, I'm way past the point of "feeling love".
Thats in your situation and not the overwhelming majority. For most relationships entail much more than just sex. So you can't assume that for everyone and just weigh those things out.

That's literally just the inverse of what I said, there's no way for you to validate whether your side is true or my side is.
Incel is being overcharged for not meeting a standard
Attractive men are being discounted for meeting a standard

Both propositions have the same end results and could equally be true because they are just inverses of eachother.
Fair enough.

1. You do realize a lot of these women are foisted into this line of work from child hood right?

2. A lot of these women are uneducated and unskilled, so they couldn't "easily" get the money at all, they'd have to go do physical labor, something that the male body is better at and their female bodies would struggle doing

I get your point but for a lot of these women, being a whore is the best alternative, because think about it, being a whore is natural to women, all women are whores at the end of the day, just to VARYING DEGREES.
You are from the US right?

1. If so the situation from the first statement is very rare and I imagine for low class street hookers which would charge you bare minimum unlike regular escorts. So you are either reaching with that "fact" or live in some warped reality where you really think this is true.

2. Who says you need to be educated or skilled to get a job. Minimum wage jobs require very little to enter and are far from male exclusive or even labor intensive. Also again this would only be true for those low class crackhead hookers who don't overcharge. Most escorts I imagine have the intelligence for a minimum wage job and/or the looks to at least be a receptionist. Both of these jobs would require actual work unlike laying in bed as some incel she is overcharging gets a quick nut before she kicks him out. You make their life way easier by enabling to her to work a few hours at night.

Woman are whores can't argue there :feelsokman:.

At least you haven't gone completely off the logic reservation, had me scared there for sec, thought you were going to reply saying they are equally the same.

But here's the thing, the reason why I asked you this question, is kind of a trap, if you said they were equal then you'd have proven how illogical you are, if you said they aren't and explained why, then now you've put your original argument under inspection.



So lets lay this all out.

I ask you to answer where you think findom and prostitution are equal, I did that on purpose, I used the word "equal" on purpose, because I'm trying to lead to what you can't deny, that paying for sex, and paying to watch a streamer jiggle her tits aren't equally as cucked, which was your first claim that started this argument, so now you are basically trapped JFL.

Now I'm going to ask you the same question, but instead of findom, I just throw in the variable from the beginning, e-whoring.

Notice how I basically just walked you back to the beginning argument lol.

Now were going from:

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS FINDOM, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

TO

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS E-WHORING, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

What is you answer @Sadist :feelshmm::feelsthink:

Careful now

1. Say that they are both equal LIKE YOU DID BEFORE:

and you contradict your answer to the findom vs prostitution question where you admit that there are varying degrees and one is definitely "more cucked" than the other

2. Say that they aren't equal and you arrive back at square one, agreeing with me, and erasing basically the only argument that made me challenge your stance
Faulty reasoning. Things can be cucked but be cucked in different degrees. Letting your gf get fucked by another guy is more cucked than orbiting. I guess the wording I made in that statement made it seem I was arguing both are at the same degree but what I meant was they are both cuck actions. Remember the context of that statement was that you were saying ewhoring is cucked while prostitution isn't. I wanted to point out they are both cucked. But yes you got me, I should have worded it better.

Sorry for late as response I had to go wagecuck for a bit :feelsrope:
 
Escortcel all the way for me tbh. I'm not glorifying it though.
 
I'm late to the discussion but I'll chime in anyway.

Aside from the irrelevant moral standpoint, don't escortcells worry about eventually catching herpes? You are basically guaranteed to contract it if you use hookers regularly. Not only is it incurable, it's a death sentence to any hope of ever ascending with your looksmatch, because it's usually a relationship deal breaker. The virus is also implicated in Alzheimer's.
There is also HPV which is often symptom less in men until it causes cancer.
 


muslimcels can ascend through arranged marriage though, but that will expose your plastic surgery sooner rather than later. Generally, though, I agree with everything in your link. I take my ascension point back.


About paying for sex being cucky: it is, but anyone who cares about that isn't being pragmatic; Do you really want to be sex starved for your entire existence just because your'e taking the moral high ground/clinging to your pride and refusing to participate in degeneracy or pay for something only Chads get for free? That's a poor reason to demonize hookercelling. A better justification for any aversion to paying for pussy is the inevitability of getting HPV and HSV1/HSV2. Also, there is the insane cost and legality issue if you don't live in Germany or the Netherlands.
 
Thankfully you don't need to make such a choice. Neither does anyone. You can have sex with an average escort and fight for a better future for Incels. One thing doesn't invalidate the other. You can eat and help feed others. Or at least help them remain strong until food arrives.
Well, I can't, I live in a city where I can't get hired because i'm white, I apply for jobs both in person and online everyday, even if I did have a job and a stable income I still wouldn't do it because, STDs are divine punishment and all who receive them are deserving of them outside of extreme rare exceptions and I don't really want to risk dick rot, secondly sleeping with someone for pure pleasure with someone cuck hole who has slept with hundreds of other men and would gargle chads cum for free makes me sick, sleeping with used goods is cuck shit, paying for it is even more cuck shit, knowing that this girl would have been a loving decent mother instead of a living sex doll is also despicable and supporting taking part in that is execution worthy for me.

I just can't view prostitution as anything but bad in any circumstance, it's what I have seen of it in the past, Weimar, Soddom and Gomorrah, etc, it's just evil and helps propagate evil.

It's not different than telling people Heroin is bad, cartels are bad, etc and then supporting the Cartel industry by buying Heroin.
Don't ruin his strawman argument for him, he has to create moral ultimatums to attempt to make a point, because his arguments revolve around morals (emotions) and not logic.
Cope harder, sorry for the late response, I was spending the past few days job hunting but of course as usual I doubt i'll be hired of a minority or a woman, but other than that, every argument I make is based around what is objectively best for humanity from an evolutionary perspective, if you've read any of my posts on any other thread that are serious you'd know this, or my videos for example. I don't argue from emotions, or religion, or a philosophy, I argue from the only basis for objectivity we have, our biological purpose, i'll side with any ideology or religion who guarantees the most net positive for my race and the human species as a whole, anything other than, anything that results in a NEGATIVE to that, that's the enemy. Period.
If you've read a newspaper or anything recently the left are going full on sexual conservative. Feminism & Marxism is all about having control over women's bodies. Radical Feminism is exactly conservatism just Orwellian double speak.
You still haven't explained how Feminism is conserving? What exactly is Conservative about Feminism exactly? Do I need to explain the etymology of the word? Is it conservative when it encourages and commenced the breakdown of the family? Encouraged Lesbianism? Encouraged body positivity? Encouraged women to stop having children? You're taking a small minority of sex negative feminism which is a joke to even pretend that's the majority or conservative, because it ain't conserving a single thing, and sexual positivity is clearly what is rampantly pushed and is why the west has been falling apart in sexual hedonism and degeneracy for decades now.

The only way you can twist this to fit your agenda is when you ignore the reality around you, but I guess you would when you can afford to take part in your sexual hedonism when hundreds of thousands if not millions of Incels are suffering.
I've got the book Mein Kampf. I've read it. I've even shown you that your beloved Nazi party realised they weren't going to stop escorting so they brought it under party control conveniently might I add. I've asked you for counter arguments & evidence. You've just said it's all Jewish propaganda. Surely Jewish propaganda would be to dehumanize Hitler & the Nazis into monsters rather than humanize them. Ps. You can defeat human people not hyperbole monsters. Same goes for Marxists & Bolsheviks.
I guess you're going to just keep trying to red herring away from the fact you pointed to soldiers abroad in France and not anything in Germany, you clearly haven't read Mein Kampf, or if you did it went in one eye and out and out the other.

Also hmm, I wonder what Jewish propaganda would have to gain from painting the biggest Moral Paragons of WW2 as degenerates just like everyone else, hmmm clearly NOTHING TO SEE HERE folks.
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Escortcels aren't upper middle class though. We just work. That's all & cope. Youre LARPing way to hard as a Nazi. For someone who hasn't done any activism for any "right wing movement" its painfully obvious to see.
Some of us actually live in places where, leftism has gotten so fucking bad and out of hand, that as a white person, you can't even get a minimum wage job, and you're trying to push to someone like ME, who can't even make a living without resorting to schemes, selling junk, and even bottom of the barrel work, ME who has a rich biological father but stuck me with single mother to rot, that I should just be so happy and accepting of degeneracy and escortcelling, what do I get out of this again? What does society? What do other young men who grow up in situations like this have to gain out of this? Oh right, fucking nothing, but what would have gained out of living in a traditional society, oh right, we'd be married and having sex daily in that society, hmm makes you think.

I've done a lot more for my movement than you've done for any movement, I have developed tactics and systems for people to follow to convert people to National Socialism, and certain other "extreme viewpoints", I have converted thousands of people to my ideology as a result, I am in a NatSoc group that helps do and spread these kind of things in a much more refined, focused, and tactical way. You see until I actually do get a Job, this is my job.
What have you done to counter lookism the real factor in all of this.
Traditionalism is the only counter to lookism.
Ps lookism is racial & disability discrimination.
The reason why a multitude of races aren't succeeding with their own race, is because women have the option to choose men from other races, not very traditional of them, seems like that could relatively easily solved with, oh I don't know, ethnostates or something, laws against racemixing, various other things. The modern day looks issues are really just a multitude of primitive evolutionary urges, that were being countered and bred out for thousands of years with advancements of culture and society, until marxism came along and brought them back into the public sphere, which resulted in Warrior class of men being the only breed worthy type of men because the social evolutionary systems that evolved to gurantee that the intellectual classes of men would breed have been wiped out.

There's a reason why in the 1800s and early 1900s in the peak of Europe and America in the most civilized and developed parts of society, who were also much more intelligent, and short, and racially similar, the breeding parity between men and women was equal, i'm sure you've heard of the 80/20 rule, well back then because of the evolutionary progress of humanity and the west, it became the 80/80 rule, and it was even the 90/90 rule if not 95/95 in some areas aswell, there are plenty of Incels today who most definitely wouldn't have been Incel back then, because women simply had no choice but to pick 1 man and stay with 1 man.
Something your LARPing Chad demagogue encouraged btw although him & his military & party were all exempt. Again how convenient.
You're just coping, I mean as I said above, the breeding parity during this time, ESPECIALLY in National Socialist Germany was extremely high and equal, basically nobody was Incel, because they had social and economic plans and systems in place, that basically guranteed everyone had to be monogamous and get married and were encouraged to have children aswell.

There were some systems that were testing out Eugenics based breeding on a small minority of population which did encourage some women and paid them in some cases to breed with the Übermensch, but they weren't the only ones breeding, and that's far overblown, they were simply testing various early theories and methods of Eugenics, and i'm sure as technology and research developed they would have had different systems in place, even I can think of better systems, but that's because I've studied years of biological data and research that they didn't have access to at the time, but i'm sure they would have gotten there, a lot faster than we got there without them that's for sure.
 
I have this saying:

"A craving that cannot be satisfied is a curse"

Having an ego based on this saying is illogical, whats the point of having an ego, something that makes you endlessly want what you will never have.

Being prideful is illogical period, but being a prideful incel, that's taking being illogical to a whole other level.

Not escortceling doesn't make you a "better person", that's your pride blinding you from a logical choice.

That's the other bad thing about pride, So:

1. Its basically a curse for incels because we can't sufficiently satisfy it, it will always be more of a burden than something useful to us

2. It blinds you, it makes you function on emotion rather than logic, people in our situation can't afford to fall behind any further, which is what emotional choices do to one's life.

Think about it, think about how illogical your stance on prostitution is, when at the end of the day ALL MEN PAY FOR SEX, ALL WOMEN ARE BASICALLY WHORES. So whats the difference between making a direct payment to use a product (prostitution), and making continuous multiple payments FOR A POSSIBLE CHANCE you'll get to use a product (dating, marriage, etc).

Also here's another way in how the logic of not wanting to pay for sex falls apart, you are ironically pedestalizing women, you are treating sex from women as something that HAS TO BE EARNED, so now your ego is tied to the judgements of a being you yourself think is illogical and unreasonable, but ironically you have made them judge, jury and executioner by placing this limitation on yourself.

It just doesn't make any sense to opt to play the game "gamble for pussy" (which is what dating and/or marriage are) when you can not play a game at all, but instead do a business transaction. No "I'm not feeling like it tonight", no mind games, no "leading you along", its tit for tat (more like tits for tat :feelshmm:), you enjoy what you paid for.

Pride is a waste of time, it will only hold you back. There are a lot of situations in life were all going to face, that if we are limited by pride, we'll make decisions that complicate our lives and are actually to our detriment.

When you think about it, you are just half assing the black pill really, because truth is you abandoned pride too, you just didn't go full circle, I doubt you plan on getting married, well guess what, just as you would say - "how could you pay for sex, where is your pride", normie males would say the same about you on different things - "how could you not get married, where is your pride".

"How could you not respect women, where is your pride as a man"

Then you'll hear the all too cliche phrase - "a REAL man............." and on it goes. You also have abandoned pride, you just haven't gone all the way to its logical conclusion, you're still latching on to certain blue pilled concepts.

I call this VBS - https://incels.is/threads/many-ince...g-with-vestigial-bluepill-syndrome-vbs.30628/

I've just gone all the way (within reason) with the ruleset, you're just stopping at marriage and other things related to women.
It sucks. It's a huge money sink and the girls will reject you if you're too ugly/socially retarded. I've tried doing it and I used to be one of those guys with "pride". I have no pride but it makes me feel worse now when a girl rejects me when I am a paying customer because I am just that fucking gross. It's a pandora's box I'd rather not open.
 
You still haven't explained how Feminism is conserving? What exactly is Conservative about Feminism exactly? Do I need to explain the etymology of the word? Is it conservative when it encourages and commenced the breakdown of the family? Encouraged Lesbianism? Encouraged body positivity? Encouraged women to stop having children? You're taking a small minority of sex negative feminism which is a joke to even pretend that's the majority or conservative, because it ain't conserving a single thing, and sexual positivity is clearly what is rampantly pushed and is why the west has been falling apart in sexual hedonism and degeneracy for decades now.

The only way you can twist this to fit your agenda is when you ignore the reality around you, but I guess you would when you can afford to take part in your sexual hedonism when hundreds of thousands if not millions of Incels are suffering.

You're Cringe Coping now. The Sex Negativity Feminism = RADICAL FEMINISM... Their encouraged Lesbianism is a LARP as admitted to by them with the whole concept of "Political Lesbianism". They want Sex Segregation & for the "Mother Superiors" to choose mates & partners (Breeding no doubt) for the women they want to breed to carry on. That's all. Their breaking up family unit is nothing more than Gendered based Anarchism & their hatred of Men or the "Patriarchy" is nothing more than Misandry. They support the Sex Buyer Law the Most Cucked law in existence. It seems to me that you're actively aiding & abetting those scum with your verbosity? Body Positivity is something that was left out for Men. It's designed to counter Lookism. I'm all for that providing Men can get on that band wagon. It's Conservative via a different strand. If you can't see that then you're the one whose blind. Conservatism encompasses a variety of beliefs.

No what's being pushed is rampant Anti White Racist Misandry, massed migration & multiculturalism (then to enforce draconian laws on ALL under the guise & auspices of surveillance & the nanny state), cuckoldry via enforcing everyone to pay their taxes going on welfare & benefits for Job Shy bastards & others coming into the fold & other such forms of nonsense.

My taking part in a private Cope is nothing to do with Incels suffering. I've always said that Incels should have state subsidized & sponsored Escortcelling Bux with funnily enough everyone paying their fair share of Taxes & then getting reimbursed means & contribution based.

I guess you're going to just keep trying to red herring away from the fact you pointed to soldiers abroad in France and not anything in Germany, you clearly haven't read Mein Kampf, or if you did it went in one eye and out and out the other.

Also hmm, I wonder what Jewish propaganda would have to gain from painting the biggest Moral Paragons of WW2 as degenerates just like everyone else, hmmm clearly NOTHING TO SEE HERE folks.
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I showed you an article which showed that the Nazis legitimized Escortcelling providing Escorts were registered with the Reich, operated out of designated work zones & were means & mandatory tested for their health. Surprise surprise a bit like now.

I don't have to show you my credentials. I've got the book & annotated it. It's a condensed Das Kapital with his life thoughts & his variation of Socialism with the added Caveat of "Blood/Ethnicity" aka Kith & Kin & also that's it really. He reads like a precursor to Robert Greene (Google him) tbhngl

His angst about so called degeneracy & syphilis is because the silly fucker forgot to use a Condom (which they had back then) with an Escort (Jewish no less most probably with all the rumours circulating) & contracted Syphilis. That's your beloved Furhers foolery.

He didn't like Prostitution because he it was associated back then with Homosexuality which was very much frowned upon back then if not criminalized.

They loved Prostitution... When they could command it.

https://www.ranker.com/list/salon-kitty-nazi-brothel-berlin/melissa-sartore

You're too blinkered & focused merely on what "The Furher" says LOL... Read up ... Philosophies/Practices/Policies/Pragmatics.

PS I'm not defending the Nazi toleration of Prostitution here... Just providing a counter to your narratives.

Some of us actually live in places where, leftism has gotten so fucking bad and out of hand, that as a white person, you can't even get a minimum wage job, and you're trying to push to someone like ME, who can't even make a living without resorting to schemes, selling junk, and even bottom of the barrel work, ME who has a rich biological father but stuck me with single mother to rot, that I should just be so happy and accepting of degeneracy and escortcelling, what do I get out of this again? What does society? What do other young men who grow up in situations like this have to gain out of this? Oh right, fucking nothing, but what would have gained out of living in a traditional society, oh right, we'd be married and having sex daily in that society, hmm makes you think.

I sympathise with you & I have been in exactly the same position. Mein Kampf... My struggle to work my way of it. :blackpill: :redpill: :whitepill: You either Get Rich or Die Tryin. Only the Strong Survive... Schutzstaffelmaxxing Bra...

My all means fight for your Labour rights. I will be with you all the way on that.

I've done a lot more for my movement than you've done for any movement, I have developed tactics and systems for people to follow to convert people to National Socialism, and certain other "extreme viewpoints", I have converted thousands of people to my ideology as a result, I am in a NatSoc group that helps do and spread these kind of things in a much more refined, focused, and tactical way. You see until I actually do get a Job, this is my job.

ROFLOLOL... Like Fuck you have kiddo. You're a novice & it's clearly plain to see Young Padawan.


Traditionalism is the only counter to lookism.

They had Lookism back in the Victorian Period.


The reason why a multitude of races aren't succeeding with their own race, is because women have the option to choose men from other races, not very traditional of them, seems like that could relatively easily solved with, oh I don't know, ethnostates or something, laws against racemixing, various other things. The modern day looks issues are really just a multitude of primitive evolutionary urges, that were being countered and bred out for thousands of years with advancements of culture and society, until marxism came along and brought them back into the public sphere, which resulted in Warrior class of men being the only breed worthy type of men because the social evolutionary systems that evolved to gurantee that the intellectual classes of men would breed have been wiped out.

There's a reason why in the 1800s and early 1900s in the peak of Europe and America in the most civilized and developed parts of society, who were also much more intelligent, and short, and racially similar, the breeding parity between men and women was equal, i'm sure you've heard of the 80/20 rule, well back then because of the evolutionary progress of humanity and the west, it became the 80/80 rule, and it was even the 90/90 rule if not 95/95 in some areas aswell, there are plenty of Incels today who most definitely wouldn't have been Incel back then, because women simply had no choice but to pick 1 man and stay with 1 man.

You're just coping, I mean as I said above, the breeding parity during this time, ESPECIALLY in National Socialist Germany was extremely high and equal, basically nobody was Incel, because they had social and economic plans and systems in place, that basically guranteed everyone had to be monogamous and get married and were encouraged to have children aswell.


Enforced Monogamy = To ensure EVERYWORKING MAN gets some tail...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II

"Zieg Heil Mein Lehrer"!!!


There were some systems that were testing out Eugenics based breeding on a small minority of population which did encourage some women and paid them in some cases to breed with the Übermensch, but they weren't the only ones breeding, and that's far overblown, they were simply testing various early theories and methods of Eugenics, and i'm sure as technology and research developed they would have had different systems in place, even I can think of better systems, but that's because I've studied years of biological data and research that they didn't have access to at the time, but i'm sure they would have gotten there, a lot faster than we got there without them that's for sure.

Proof & Evidence?
 
Yes, I'm to prideful to get some uncurable STD. It's like playing russian roulette, you will lose eventually.
 
Escortcelling is glorified masturbation, that inner emptiness you get shortly after busting a nut will still be there when you escortcel.
 
Fear of rejection for me
 
Sex is not what a lot of incels are after. A virgin wouldn't be posting here if he had girls crushing over him in HS or college, even if he never slept with them. It's the validation that comes from the fact that I was sexually desired by someone which I'm after.
Escortcelling is glorified masturbation, that inner emptiness you get shortly after busting a nut will still be there when you escortcel.
 
"hey incels, I had sex this week"
:feelshmm::feelsgah:
 
She must have felt like she was having sex with Gollum/Smeagol from Lord of the Rings.

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

Simple arguments that emotional moralfags like @BrendioEEE won't get (more like will refuse to acknowledge):
I paid her the price she wanted, and she did what I asked her to do. Fair enough for both.

Prostitution is a simple trade, its honest and straight forward, ironically an improvement to the usual interactions between men and women today.

Escorts may have sex with dozens/hundreds of men, but if you stop to think and see around you, you will see that all females today have sex with dozens of males, every week. By the end of the year, all females (from 15 - 35) have done sex with hundreds of men. All of them are whores. You will not find female virgins and saints in this world today anymore.

The argument that these women are whores and have fucked so many guys is a pointless one because all women today are whores, there isn't much of a difference to me to a woman who has taken 100 different dicks in a year, and a woman who has taken 500 different dicks in a year, they are both whores.

non escort females today are more dirty and degenerate than the whores themselves. Normie sluts today do shameless sex with Tyrones and Chads, for meaningless status and superfluous Facebook/Instagram likes, females today are worse than prostitutes.

Same as above, protitutes don't have a chip on their shoulder while getting to be a whore, they have to wake up everyday and admit to themselves they are whores, the average woman is the same kind of whore, but society provides her with mental copes and justifications so she can think better of herself.

That "group of people" (you know who I am talking about) is making a lot of money out of a sick society, billions upon billions. And they will never let her get well, her only way out, is death.

@BrendioEEE , jews make so much damn money off of porn, how much do you think they would make if prostitution was legalized. A lot less actually. You see there isn't much logistics involved with owning "digital whores", essentially millions of men pay, to get to fuck the same woman at the same time without the wear and tear to your "product", porn makes pimping whores out easier, because men jerk off instead of fucking her, as a collective they pay more, and your "product" gets used up less.

If prostitution was completely legal, the porn business would crumble.

I hope you give some thought to what I wrote, I believe you will find it to be reasonable.

@Arthas93
He won't find it reasonable because again his arguments are moral based, they revolve around emotions not logic, anybody who comes out of nowhere with an argument like - "I would sacrifice my self and remain incel if it mean't all other incels ascended" is truly blue pilled. The statement held no relevance to what anybody was currently arguing and was just an attempt to change the context and the type of argument taking place, he was attempting to change the "mode" of the argument, from being one about whats logical, to being one about whats "right".
 
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I don't have pride. I'm a high inhib beta subhuman. I would never be able to actually call a hooker, pay her and have sex with her. That's normalfag tier shit. I can't even go out of my room.

I don't think I'd even last more than a few seconds. One touch and I'd cum.
 
That's normalfag tier shit. I can't even go out of my room.

No its called actually having a will, I hate it when people ascribe basic things to normalfaggotry, its self defeatist nonesense, also guys like you contradict yourself at your core and you don't even realize it. If this is going to be the extent of your existence, this is it for you, and you aren't even going to try for your own sake, then why haven't you killed yourself yet, why keep on living, just to endlessly complain?

I don't think I'd even last more than a few seconds. One touch and I'd cum.

If you masturbate to porn its going to be the reverse actually, you are going to last "too long", that's what happened to me my first time, could barely be aroused. I only did it once just to get the V card out of the way, but when I decide to go back, I'm going to stop masturbating for a while, I need a "system restart".

@BlkPillPres Perhaps you are right. He is too emotional, and he plays the moral card too much. The ideal would be a more moral society and less degenerate people. But we are far away from that.

I think the ideal would be a society driven primarily by logic. I think the reason society is so immoral is ironically because we are trying to be moral and not logical.

The basis of all laws that are good for a society, is logic.

Take murder for example, the law should not be "you should not kill because its bad/evil", it should be - "you should not kill because you also do not want to be killed". We should hate murder as a society because if we allow other people to kill others haphazardly, then we might be next, sounds fucked up but if society ran on cold logic like that, then everything would be more peaceful.

Basing laws on morality is ironically why society is flawed, its because MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE. Even criminal organizations like the Yakuza or the Italian Mob, etc all have "codes of honour", that are things that even the average citizen would agree with. They have their own set of morals, for example the Mob usually doesn't allow killing women and children, its an emotional and subjective "rule", they have let their emotions create an illogical ruleset, but ironically they can kill men, steal from families, sell drugs, etc.

This is the problem with morals, everybody thinks their moral code is "good enough". If we all had to operate on logic, there is no such thing as "my logic" or "your logic", a choice either is logical or it isn't, logic is based on whats objective, not on how something makes one feel. We need a logical society not a moral one, "true morals" are inherent to logic, because logic usually yields the greatest collective rule set

Imagine how much the rates of rape and human trafficking would go down of prostitution was decriminalized, think about it, its completely illogical that paying for sex is illegal, there's no logical reason why it should be, yet despite all the income it would generate for a country if taxable, despite all the people it would alleviate from suffering, society keeps it illegal due to moral reasoning.

MORALS CORRUPT A SOCIETY, THEY DON'T HELP IT.
 
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No its called actually having a will, I hate it when people ascribe basic things to normalfaggotry, its self defeatist nonesense, also guys like you contradict yourself at your core and you don't even realize it. If this is going to be the extent of your existence, this is it for you, and you aren't even going to try for your own sake, then why haven't you killed yourself yet, why keep on living, just to endlessly complain?
>umm sweety, you have to try ok? go out there and bee urself
Never reply to me again, you reddit fuck.
 
>umm sweety, you have to try ok? go out there and bee urself
Never reply to me again, you reddit fuck.

JFL nice strawman, if you aren't going to do anything to get sex, then you are basically admitting that what you expected from life was that a woman would just look at you, like you, and jump on your dick, in other words - "If women don't treat me like Chad, then I'm not going to try to get laid at all"

You are just admitting that you are volcel, and you already admitted that you aren't going to do anything for yourself, so you might as well just kill yourself and be done with it.
 
JFL nice strawman, if you aren't going to do anything to get sex, then you are basically admitting that what you expected from life was that a woman would just look at you, like you, and jump on your dick, in other words - "If women don't treat me like Chad, then I'm not going to try to get laid at all"

You are just admitting that you are volcel, and you already admitted that you aren't going to do anything for yourself, so you might as well just kill yourself and be done with it.
>there's someone for everyone, but you have to try xDD
Back to reddit, normgroid fakecel filth.
 
JFL nice strawman, if you aren't going to do anything to get sex, then you are basically admitting that what you expected from life was that a woman would just look at you, like you, and jump on your dick, in other words - "If women don't treat me like Chad, then I'm not going to try to get laid at all"

You are just admitting that you are volcel, and you already admitted that you aren't going to do anything for yourself, so you might as well just kill yourself and be done with it.

This post screams reddit cuck :feelshaha:
 
I believe that BlkPillPres is right but sounded too aggressive. I believe that what he tried to tell you is that you should do that for yourself. It is not something that requires looks or skill. It just requires will. And is something that will give you some pleasure so.

I too was afraid and ashamed of going to an escort. But one day I just couldn't take it anymore.

I just put my doubts aside, put my shame aside, put my fears aside. And went to the internet found an escort, got her whatsapp, called her, marked a day, place and price. Went there, paid her, and did sex. Everything went just right.

Don't be afraid to seek your own well being.

Paying to have sex with a spermdumpster is still pathetic as fuck. Nothing is going to change that fact
 
I believe that BlkPillPres is right but sounded too aggressive. I believe that what he tried to tell you is that you should do that for yourself. It is not something that requires looks or skill. It just requires will. And is something that will give you some pleasure so.

I too was afraid and ashamed of going to an escort. But one day I just couldn't take it anymore.

I just put my doubts aside, put my shame aside, put my fears aside. And went to the internet found an escort, got her whatsapp, called her, marked a day, place and price. Went there, paid her, and did sex. Everything went just right.

Don't be afraid to seek your own well being.
I'm fucked in the head and some people here just don't get it. I can't do it. Paying whores is too human/normie for me.
My ID expired years ago and I still haven't done anything about it. I have to get my photos taken and I just can't do it. I don't want to go through that.
I don't want some foid to take a photo of me, too much focus on me. Her looking through the camera and just thinking how disgusting I am. I don't even know what I want. I want acceptance and validation, but I know I'll never have that. I want sex, but not when I look the way I do. It's hard to explain. My brain wants it, but my body doesn't, or the other way around. I don't know.

IDGAF about a whore not enjoying the experience, of course she's not going to enjoy fucking a subhuman. Fucking whores is a human thing, it's not for me. It's the type of shit you see in movies, it's for normal masculine men. I'm not a man.
 
I feel like I would regret it. Also, I don't want to give money to a foid, and I don't want to get any STDs.
 
Indeed brother, you are right. It is sad that some of us need to go to escorts and prostitutes to satisfy our sexual urges.
But there is no other way for me to get sex. I am against rape, and I am against zoophilia/necrophilia. And masturbation is just too dull and unsatisfying.

Escortceling is my core cope now. But if you have a better suggestion please say to me.

Go ER :feelzez:

Joking but i understand what you mean 100%. Do what you have to do, and if that makes you happy then do it. But please don't glorify it like it's some kind of success story because it's not. Fuck as many escorts as you want. I don't give a damn
 

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