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SuicideFuel Why Ascension is a Myth

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Any suggestion of ascension should send shock waves of laughter, not relief or hope. If you missed out on teenage love - what is appropriately characterized as 'formative experiences' - you will never repair the damage and it is akin to playing the lottery after the results have been published. Winning therefore, is not just improbable, but impossible, because there is nothing left to win. Not only is ascending an incredibly complex and multifaceted task, you will always be known as that guy who didn't get any girls in school, or worse, that guy who had to go under the knife, inject steroids, take hair loss drugs, or whatever it might be, to have a chance of having sex - something that came naturally to most. The fact that you have to improve yourself so much is beyond off-putting to females, because it signals genetic inferiority. A man of true genetic quality leads an active lifestyle on impulse, naturally has a full head of hair, is natural in everything that he does and exudes. Why do you think females say things like "is that your natural eye colour?", "do you come from a very tall family?", "is your body naturally muscular?". To the detriment of all incels, women are biologically primed to seek out men who are not just in a superior state, but are in that superior state by virtue of their natural predisposition to it.

Further, women can spot 'artificially' good looking men as easily as children spot candy. If you're massively gymcelled, have a huge beard, have a puffy face due to the hair loss drugs you're on, something is just going to seem off about you and in a world where women have seemingly endless options, you will quickly be skimmed over and all your effort will be thrown out the window. Not to mention that women don't revise their opinions on men. Once you're deemed unfuckable, which happens within the first few seconds of meeting a female, the judgment is eternal. She will never erase that first impression. She will never forget that all women didn't want to fuck you - and because women lack individuality and follow other women, she will run away from you as though you're a fire that will burn her. So to have any chance of success, ascension will require numerous surgeries, changing your name, going to a different country and establishing a new identity; a feat which is not only difficult but often comes too late. Trying to ascend while you're aging is like trying to fight a burning building with a cup of water. In summary, with very few exceptions, improving yourself is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.
 
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I never considered anything else for ascending other than surgerymaxxing.
 
It's always been over, since the first breath.
 
Bullshit.

Woman care about looks, not about genetics.

Does not matter if you are naturally good looking or become good looking by plastic surgery, if you are above average you will attract females attention anyways.
 
>Further, women can spot 'artificially' good looking men like children spotting candy.
I somewhat don't agree with this. If they don't know, they can do nothing but assume it is "natural". Women have incredible "personality detectors" (AKA they can read the value of your genetics almost instantly), and they do that mainly through two means: height and face. You are right when you say you cannot height fraud... but face frauding though surgery is totally legit. It is the only path to ascension for any proper incel. No woman can tell if a man had PS if she never saw a before/after.

>is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.
<londoncel
Well there's your problem. The only virgin women in Britistan are being groomed in the basements of your shitskin invaders as we speak. Come to middle-of-nowhere america or some southeast asian shithole and make that claim... you would be wrong.

Bullshit.

Woman care about looks, not about genetics.

Does not matter if you are naturally good looking or become good looking by plastic surgery, if you are above average you will attract females attention anyways.
Looks ARE genetically determined. Height is the best indicator of good genetics, not face btw.
 
Bullshit.

Woman care about looks, not about genetics.

Does not matter if you are naturally good looking or become good looking by plastic surgery, if you are above average you will attract females attention anyways.

Wishful thinking. Creating a harmonious chad face via surgery when you have an incel base is almost an impossible task. You will never have harmony in 99% of cases and therefore you'll still be unattractive and just look downright silly. I haven't even gone into the mental effects. You have no idea how significantly years of rotting shapes your personality and how difficult it is to suddenly become NT and socially well-adjusted.
 
to have any chance of success, ascension will require numerous surgeries, changing your name, going to a different country and establishing a new identity; a feat which is not only difficult but often comes too late. Trying to ascend while you're aging is like trying to fight a burning building with a cup of water. In summary, with very few exceptions, improving yourself is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.

You’ve touched on a lot of topics that were all valid and true, but the last paragraph seems like something I can relate to.

At this point even the things you’ve mentioned is cope to an extent. I’ve had a rhinoplasty and planning on getting more cosmetic surgery. I originally thought it would benefit my luck with females, and I was sadly wrong.

Everything and anything we do at this point to benefit ourselves is cope. All we can do at this point and sit back and let our life be wasted away while watching others have what we do desperately desire.
 
>Further, women can spot 'artificially' good looking men like children spotting candy.
I somewhat don't agree with this. If they don't know, they can do nothing but assume it is "natural". Women have incredible "personality detectors" (AKA they can read the value of your genetics almost instantly), and they do that mainly through two means: height and face. You are right when you say you cannot height fraud... but face frauding though surgery is totally legit. It is the only path to ascension for any proper incel. No woman can tell if a man had PS if she never saw a before/after.

>is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.
<londoncel
Well there's your problem. The only virgin women in Britistan are being groomed in the basements of your shitskin invaders as we speak. Come to middle-of-nowhere america or some southeast asian shithole and make that claim... you would be wrong.


Looks ARE genetically determined. Height is the best indicator of good genetics, not face btw.

Let's deconstruct the intricacies of what you're proposing. You're going to get an incel who has a small skull, bad features, etc, and somehow transform him into a chad via surgeries, but because he doesn't have the facial width, surface area on his face of a chad, you're going to make him look like a pretty but ultimately disharmonious doll. Pretty to look at, but off, and lacking in sex appeal. Further, let's say that against all odds that someone did become a chad through surgery (which is incredibly hard), if he was still short, his efforts were in vain, because everything is important. The idea of a woman not being able to tell if a man has plastic surgery might be true, but again it requires you to cut all previous ties in your life, move cities or even countries and re-establish a new identity, so someone who knew you when you were 16 or 17 doesn't simply call you out on surgeries, or know. Then you have the mental effects of rotting long term. You will always be someone who is uncomfortable to be around, because you're trying to learn socialising in your mid 20s, when you should've mastered it 10 years ago. There are too many factors that make ascension an impossible dream. Getting all the surgeries in the world to have a better face might indeed improve your prospects on a highly technical construction, but it will rarely translate into results in this day and age, particularly as this will likely happen in your mid or even late 20s when you have the money for ascension. You'll be trying to learn dating when your peers have been dating for 15 years. Like I've alluded to, I can't stress enough the importance of early social integration too.
 
brutal suicidefuel:feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
Just to add, this post is coming from the perspective of someone who has looksmaxxed to death. There's no coming back from a lost youth. None.
 
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Bullshit.

Woman care about looks, not about genetics.

Does not matter if you are naturally good looking or become good looking by plastic surgery, if you are above average you will attract females attention anyways.

:bluepill::bluepill::bluepill:
 
Who's going to know you've had surgery? Nobody. Lol. Ascension is the only way.
 
Just to add, this post is coming from the perspective of someone who has looksmaxxed to death. There's no coming back from a lost youth. None.
How old are you?
 
I'll do my best to ascend and if it doesn't work I'll go to the Emergency Room
 
One of the rare posts that turned my stomach. good job with the BP OP. :cryfeels::cryfeels::feelscry::feelscry::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
This will be my thesis topic.
 
Low iq just learn to compartmentalize past failures and experiences
 
Let's deconstruct the intricacies of what you're proposing. You're going to get an incel who has a small skull, bad features, etc, and somehow transform him into a chad via surgeries, but because he doesn't have the facial width, surface area on his face of a chad, you're going to make him look like a pretty but ultimately disharmonious doll. Pretty to look at, but off, and lacking in sex appeal. Further, let's say that against all odds that someone did become a chad through surgery (which is incredibly hard), if he was still short, his efforts were in vain, because everything is important. The idea of a woman not being able to tell if a man has plastic surgery might be true, but again it requires you to cut all previous ties in your life, move cities or even countries and re-establish a new identity, so someone who knew you when you were 16 or 17 doesn't simply call you out on surgeries, or know. Then you have the mental effects of rotting long term. You will always be someone who is uncomfortable to be around, because you're trying to learn socialising in your mid 20s, when you should've mastered it 10 years ago. There are too many factors that make ascension an impossible dream. Getting all the surgeries in the world to have a better face might indeed improve your prospects on a highly technical construction, but it will rarely translate into results in this day and age, particularly as this will likely happen in your mid or even late 20s when you have the money for ascension. You'll be trying to learn dating when your peers have been dating for 15 years. Like I've alluded to, I can't stress enough the importance of early social integration too.
Brutal ropefuel
 
Oldcels know best about this matter
 
it's over if you're not born as chad
 
Bullshit.

Woman care about looks, not about genetics.

Does not matter if you are naturally good looking or become good looking by plastic surgery, if you are above average you will attract females attention anyways.
 
You always drop high quality suifuel and blackpill. I salute you bro.
 
Everything and anything we do at this point to benefit ourselves is cope. All we can do at this point and sit back and let our life be wasted away while watching others have what we do desperately desire.
 
Wishful thinking. Creating a harmonious chad face via surgery when you have an incel base is almost an impossible task. You will never have harmony in 99% of cases and therefore you'll still be unattractive and just look downright silly. I haven't even gone into the mental effects. You have no idea how significantly years of rotting shapes your personality and how difficult it is to suddenly become NT and socially well-adjusted.
But where, when i talked something about becoming a CHAD son???

Im talking about going from 3/10 to 5/10 or 6/10. You DO NOT NEED TO BE 8/10 TO ATTRACT WOMAN. You only need to be 6/10 (and non rice/curry/manlet) OR 5/10 with other positive attributtes like height and frame.

Unless you believe in Sub8 law. If thats the case, our conversation ends here.
 
This is true. Women don't even care about status. The idea that women value men of power is a form of rich people cope. If they gave even a single shit then why do women married to high status guys cheat on them with poor good looking ones? Women marry high status guys for money only and are not attracted to them unless they are also good looking.
 
Absolutely. The best times of our lives are long gone. We are leftover-men.

And what is ascension? Getting to put your cock in a drunken whore at a party for 30 seconds before you blow your load, and then never having sex again? A healthy sex life is not something we can have. The best we can hope for is getting rich, so we can rent grade-A toots everyday. And us, being who we are, means that there is less than an infinitesimal chance of any of us actually becoming rich.

But where, when i talked something about becoming a CHAD son???

Im talking about going from 3/10 to 5/10 or 6/10. You DO NOT NEED TO BE 8/10 TO ATTRACT WOMAN. You only need to be 6/10 (and non rice/curry/manlet) OR 5/10 with other positive attributtes like height and frame.

Unless you believe in Sub8 law. If thats the case, our conversation ends here.
5-6/10 means "eligible for beta-buxx."
 
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Any suggestion of ascension should send shock waves of laughter, not relief or hope. If you missed out on teenage love - what is appropriately characterized as 'formative experiences' - you will never repair the damage and it is akin to playing the lottery after the results have been published. Winning therefore, is not just improbable, but impossible, because there is nothing left to win. Not only is ascending an incredibly complex and multifaceted task, you will always be known as that guy who didn't get any girls in school, or worse, that guy who had to go under the knife, inject steroids, take hair loss drugs, or whatever it might be, to have a chance of having sex - something that came naturally to most. The fact that you have to improve yourself so much is beyond off-putting to females, because it signals genetic inferiority. A man of true genetic quality leads an active lifestyle on impulse, naturally has a full head of hair, is natural in everything that he does and exudes. Why do you think females say things like "is that your natural eye colour?", "do you come from a very tall family?", "is your body naturally muscular?". To the detriment of all incels, women are biologically primed to seek out men who are not just in a superior state, but are in that superior state by virtue of their natural predisposition to it.

Further, women can spot 'artificially' good looking men as easily as children spot candy. If you're massively gymcelled, have a huge beard, have a puffy face due to the hair loss drugs you're on, something is just going to seem off about you and in a world where women have seemingly endless options, you will quickly be skimmed over and all your effort will be thrown out the window. Not to mention that women don't revise their opinions on men. Once you're deemed unfuckable, which happens within the first few seconds of meeting a female, the judgment is eternal. She will never erase that first impression. She will never forget that all women didn't want to fuck you - and because women lack individuality and follow other women, she will run away from you as though you're a fire that will burn her. So to have any chance of success, ascension will require numerous surgeries, changing your name, going to a different country and establishing a new identity; a feat which is not only difficult but often comes too late. Trying to ascend while you're aging is like trying to fight a burning building with a cup of water. In summary, with very few exceptions, improving yourself is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.

I dont really care for that 'teenage love things so much, don't really give it much thought as i was a fool, a moron in m y teenage years a lot and am well past that now and know more of what i want.
While i do believe that some have better or more success with them in their lives due to the luck of being born 'good looking' I dont think that it cant artificially happen for some and still have success.
I have notcied things like them asking about if somethings natural, but it never really occurred to me as being something that mattered in terms of them caring about natural genetic superiority as they themselves are extremely fake - mostly not knowing what they want, being indecisive , dying hair, literally painting on their face to create a new look entirely, they shouldnt be one to complain.
I am not informed enough to judge weather they care if a man/guy has artificially made himself look better or not but all i can say is that it can help

I know that some people look a hell of a lot better with some changes, some surgeries can make people stand out pretty good if they had some correctable flaws.

I know myself that when i used to dress in all black and had my long black hair it helped me meet some goth girl back then
when i used to go to gym all the time my female friend started acting all different and asked me to wear a singlet more often. when i cut my hair off and took a more normal appearance her friend acted way more different and positive towards me, neither of these were my type however and one of them had a partner and kids

I remember when i first got my new motorbike being poor as hell friends were like oh you got a new bike and then just moved on. they dont care where you got the money or anything, just take it as it is.
I think that people just act according to circumstances. if you completely rearranged your face with successful surgery they wouldnt care as long as you 'looked hot' as such...
but everyones different i guess
 
All that remains is betabuxx and the single mother pretending to enjoy my little cock.
 
Any suggestion of ascension should send shock waves of laughter, not relief or hope. If you missed out on teenage love - what is appropriately characterized as 'formative experiences' - you will never repair the damage and it is akin to playing the lottery after the results have been published. Winning therefore, is not just improbable, but impossible, because there is nothing left to win. Not only is ascending an incredibly complex and multifaceted task, you will always be known as that guy who didn't get any girls in school, or worse, that guy who had to go under the knife, inject steroids, take hair loss drugs, or whatever it might be, to have a chance of having sex - something that came naturally to most. The fact that you have to improve yourself so much is beyond off-putting to females, because it signals genetic inferiority. A man of true genetic quality leads an active lifestyle on impulse, naturally has a full head of hair, is natural in everything that he does and exudes. Why do you think females say things like "is that your natural eye colour?", "do you come from a very tall family?", "is your body naturally muscular?". To the detriment of all incels, women are biologically primed to seek out men who are not just in a superior state, but are in that superior state by virtue of their natural predisposition to it.

Further, women can spot 'artificially' good looking men as easily as children spot candy. If you're massively gymcelled, have a huge beard, have a puffy face due to the hair loss drugs you're on, something is just going to seem off about you and in a world where women have seemingly endless options, you will quickly be skimmed over and all your effort will be thrown out the window. Not to mention that women don't revise their opinions on men. Once you're deemed unfuckable, which happens within the first few seconds of meeting a female, the judgment is eternal. She will never erase that first impression. She will never forget that all women didn't want to fuck you - and because women lack individuality and follow other women, she will run away from you as though you're a fire that will burn her. So to have any chance of success, ascension will require numerous surgeries, changing your name, going to a different country and establishing a new identity; a feat which is not only difficult but often comes too late. Trying to ascend while you're aging is like trying to fight a burning building with a cup of water. In summary, with very few exceptions, improving yourself is as much a myth as female virgins in 2018.

The tag for this post should have been [BlackPill], too many copers on this site.
 
Lame as fuck low iq post.

If you're not trying to ascend, you are a volcel
 
Ascension = math
 

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