Blackpill For Men Who Won't Escortcel Due To Pride

[Mainländer]

What bothers me the most about the idea that a man is somehow tainted by fucking a prostitute is that it kinda fits the feminist agenda which tries to equate male and female sexuality.

If a man fucks a lot of girls, no matter if they were all virgins or hoes, he doesn't become any worse through it. I have fucked about 12 prostitutes in a time span of 4 years and it didn't change anything relevant about me really.

In the case of women, being promiscuous is PROVEN to make them broken and less capable of things like pair bonding and being good wives/mothers. Not to mention women risk pregnancy every time they fuck, even if they use some kind of contraception.

 

[Thebiggestloser]

Escortcelling gives no gratification at all

 

[REkrul]

That's a false argument because lookmaxxing isn't really about spending money on yourself, its about spending money to get women to fuck you, and if the end result is that its more cost effective to pay for sex, then you are indeed wasting your time and money.

The only "looksmaxxing" I will be spending money on are things that have a permanent change, for example there's this specific penis extender device I plan on testing and reviewing, going to follow a regiment with it and document the results. That's something beneficial to me that could be considered maximise my looks in a way, but spending money on beautification shit, stylish clothes, jewelry, fancy haircuts, etc is just cope. If you are unattractive these things will barely raise your SMV at all and you are still back to just gambling for pussy anyways, hoping that all the money you just spent helps you rake in a win.

"25khhv, never been to escort" - Do it, research it first, if you know a guy who "knows the escort/prostitute scene" and is willing to take you there, then go, that's how I went there. It wasn't really all that good to be honest, she was kinda loose JFL, but that was kind of expected, she was a "thick" bitch and I prefer petite women, but I can tell you one thing, the peace of mind that came after that shit is something I don't regret, there's always this fear in the back of your mind that you will die a virgin, and never even remotely get to experience sex, and going to heaven after that would be a different kind of hell, listening to everyone relive all their past romantic/sexual experiences while you have none and will never get a chance to create any.

The experience wasn't all that good, and I still have no regrets, the whole "its your first time" thing is blue pilled BS, the only time that means anything is "next time", that's it, that's why women are always chasing after new dick, whether the first time is special or not you always want more. So don't get to caught up on waiting around too long to make the first time "perfect", wait too long and you may never get to that first time.

I'm always shocked when I hear there are 40 year old virgins, don't become like those fools, don't wait till its too late to even enjoy it and your libido is dead, there is no "perfect" first time, its all blue pilled BS, its things only normies should relate too.

In looksmaxxing I include diet, healthy life style, exercising, simply taking care of yourself and being as good of a version of yourself as you can and for that you do need to spend some money, albeit not too much and effort which takes time, and as many know time is money to a degree. I like wearing nice clothes, they don't have to be expensive. Personally I know that by doing things that I do, in terms of looksmaxxing, is not going to magically give me gf, nor do I expect that to happen. It makes you just feel better about yourself and it's simply not a wrong thing to do, I don't believe that investing in the only thing you truly have/own (read your own body) on this damn rock is a wrong choice, it's just the most failsafe/natural thing to do. Why be 3 when you can be 3.5 or why be 4 when you can be 4.5. Regardless, it's not going to change your life, that's true, you're fucked.
I end up spending very little on such things, but could spent practically nothing instead, thus I'm wasting money? I disagree, as long as you're not excessive and literally try hard, which is what I think you're trying to say. Just as with everything, one shouldn't go to extremes, because diminishing returns starts to kick in real fast, but rather find a middle ground for such things.

I'm trying to research and read things from time to time, but people never really talk about the things I want to know about, so it's hard. Also no friends or anything even close, so naturally finding someone who is into "escort scene" is pretty much out of the question, would seem creepy too probably. I'm afraid it's not going to be good and that I would regret it. Some few years ago I called one and tried to ask if she would be willing to take bath/shower together. She seemed pissed and annoyed as if I'm asking really dumb questions and hung up, so that cooled me off the entire thing for quite a while. It seemed jarring, because in their descriptions they're educated and elegant nice girls that will give you good time, entertain you and can be good conversation partners and when you call them it feels like talking with a drunk 70iq person.

Actually the way I feel about escorts is very similar to the advice/situation I've read countless times, I'll try paraphrasing- "if you see a girl you like you can do two things. 1 think about what would have happened if you asked her out and agonise over whether she would have said yes or no or 2 you can just go up and ask, so you avoid the situation 1 and have a clean conscious" it's certainly a bluepill kind of advice that I took way too many times then I'd have liked to. The second option, sadly, does not end up just like that and that easy. In a way it destroys you. And that's why I'm afraid. Feel like it could be a big mistake or big breakthrough or most likely just big nothing in reality that I'm way over thinking.

Also just by looking at pictures a lot of them are incredibly hot and it's impossible to get them as a gf no matter what, to 99% of males, a lot of 18/19/20 near perfect looking, honestly screams like fake and unbelievable. So I'd assume they wouldn't be very loose or thick, if pictures/ages are real. Then that ends up as a big incentive and actually a good thing as otherwise I'd have to settle for 3-4/10 and here I have an opportunity to do 9/10.
And ye, I sort of knew by 16 that I will never experience sex/have gf or have any of my dreams fulfilled, ever, as I had very strong moral ideas/restrictions in regards to this. Always wanted to find a nice virgin girl to marry and have lots of kids, experience love and such. Here I am many years later contemplating of going to escorts and if I'm even worth of that. I think I have above average body at least, they might appreciate that possibly, as it might be something different than usual? As in could help with the entire experience. Going for peace of mind is one of the goals too, just to get rid of that what if #1 situation and finally stop agonising over something probably not so important.

 

[SeifEsteem]

> emotional intelligence
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low iq

 

[REkrul]

> emotional intelligence
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Why you even reply to people at all? 99% of your posts are identical copies like that. It's like you're a bot, why aren't you banned after 16600 posts like that is beyond my comprehension, ngl tbh.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

YOU CAN KILL A SAIYAN BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE HIS PRIDE

Although I don't care if someone escortcel, I just wanted some real affection

 

[SeifEsteem]

Why you even reply to people at all? 99% of your posts are identical copies like that. It's like you're a bot, why aren't you banned after 16600 posts like that is beyond my comprehension, ngl tbh.

 

[Deleted member 1983]

its more of a matter of worth for me, i could spend my months wages fucking an escort 1-2 times a month for an hour or so.

or i could buy a new gaming pc and monitor.

not to mention the escort just wants your money and probably repulsed by you.

 

[Deleted member 4760]

i'd fuck more escorts if it wasnt for the high price...

 

[Remyx]

No point in being a pridecel.

 

[BlkPillPres]

i'd fuck more escorts if it wasnt for the high price...

If only it was legal world wide, it would be a lot cheaper

No point in being a pridecel.

We should leave that shit for Chads like Escanor.

 

[Remyx]

We should leave that shit for Chads like Escanor.

Kek, not at night when he's incel

 

[BlkPillPres]

Kek, not at night when he's incel

Actually he just becomes a normie at night, he isn't even incel tier when powered down, mogs us in every state, you see how tall he is?

 

[StaroRavager]

Only cucks have no pride.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

escorts sleep with multiple men per day

and you want to stick your dick in that same hole, disgusting, think of all the std's they have

sleeping with escorts is a form of cuckoldry

 

[Sadist]

Yes because paying women online for pictures and short videos is definitely the same as paying them to literally shove your dick down their throat, bravo mate, you are making a lot of sense here.

Both are equally cucked and heres why:

They are both paying directly for a woman to go against what she wants to do. Do you think that woman would have fucked you if you didn't hand over that cash? Overpaying too, I don't know how much your prostitutes costs but you can't equate paying $250 (average apperantly according to a quick google search for what I assume are escorts and not your street corner crackhead hooker) to buying a few drinks. You say every man must pay some how to achieve sex but the fact that you are paying way more to get something others could get for so less is cucked. They are cucking you into paying so much, normies+ can get laid by only paying for drinks. So you are paying over the top prices to get a woman to notice you as a sexual being and giving you what others get for significantly less and even free. She is using you for nothing more than that wallet.

Just like paying for pictures or naked videos is cucked because which lets say you pay 50 for while others are getting them for free. You have been cucked into paying higher prices for what is worth a lot less.

Also prostitutes would be forced in manual labor or something other than using there vagina for money if it weren't for men's fundings? You pouring your time and money into prostitutes benefits foids more than it benefits you, because you give them a livelihood. Just how cucks give twitch whores and cam girls a living for simply being born with a vagina.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Both are equally cucked and heres why:

They are cucking you into paying so much, normies+ can get laid by only paying for drinks. So you are paying over the top prices to get a woman to notice you as a sexual being and giving you what others get for significantly less and even free. She is using you for nothing more than that wallet..

I never thought I'd see you of all people saying this BS, I thought you were logical, of course they are paying less, at the start of the relationship, you think they're paying less when they get into one and start "dating". I've spoken to both men and women in couples, they have more sex when they are single and looking for a significant other, when they start dating the amount of sex they have goes down (unless they are living together, which isn't the norm).

So if you compared the amount of money spent by a man in a "committed relationship", to a guy paying a whore $200 to fuck, you are getting a better deal, there are no maintenance fees, you don't have to pay her bills, buy her clothes and jewelry, celebrate holidays and anniversaries, pay for dates, food, transportation, etc. You just pay to fuck and you're done.

You think guys with GF's are having sex everyday?. Maybe if they live in the same area or live together, but from most couples I've spoken to (well the guys in couples) say they only have sex around intervals of once or twice a week, sometimes once in two weeks JFL. Sorry but your point only stands FOR ONE NIGHT STANDS AND TEMPORARY HOOKUPS.

News Flash, we aren't good looking, judging yourself by the standards of someone who is good looking is coping, we aren't even on their plane of existence, its ridiculous what you're doing here.

Just like paying for pictures or naked videos is cucked because which lets say you pay 50 for while others are getting them for free. You have been cucked into paying higher prices for what is worth a lot less.

Its not worth a lot less, good looking men just get a discount, you are looking at it from the perspective of incels being overcharged, were not being overcharged, were being charged the exact price, good looking men get discounts.

I get your point a bit, but I don't feel like much of a cuck with my cock down the throat of the person "cucking me". If afterwards the bitch told me along the lines of what you were saying here and said "I just cucked you" with my cum dripping from the side of her mouth, excuse me if her saying those words while being in such a submissive state doesn't make me take it seriously.

How did I get cucked, if she got fucked

At this point you are seriously stretching the scope of the definition here, if I can literally fuck a woman and still end up being her cuck, then aren't we cucks for shopping at stores, everything we buy is at a higher price than what the salesmen got it for, are we being cucked by shop owners?

Also prostitutes would be forced in manual labor or something other than using there vagina for money if it weren't for men's fundings? You pouring your time and money into prostitutes benefits foids more than it benefits you, because you give them a livelihood. Just how cucks give twitch whores and cam girls a living for simply being born with a vagina.

You have to be trolling.

Twitch streamers and all variety of e-whores making money WITHOUT HAVING TO FUCK YOU
Whores make but BUT HAVE TO FUCK YOU

How the fuck can you even argue that the two are the same, or both cucked.

Please google findom and look at that shit.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=findom
"A combination of 2 words: financial domination. Financial domination is a very real fetish involving a submissive being "forced" to give money to the Dominant. Terms like money slave, paypig, moneypig, walletslave, wallet rape are all part of the play involved in this type of Domination and submission.

Some men are very turned on by and seek out findom Mistresses and are aroused by the act of submitting so completely to a Dominant Female."

I'm going to ask you flat out here, after this I'm done, this will show whether you are operating on logic or you have some kind of bias against paying for sex.

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS FINDOM, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

 

[tight&shiny-hotpants]

I would fuck a new escort once every month; the country where I live they are £70 for 30 minutes of sex, but I am in the wrong location. Ofc you don't need any longer- deducting the unbridled foreplay, petting, kissing, stripping you get with a girlfriend and round 2s IF you can get it up for multiple rounds.

Most guys who claim to go for 3 hours either have sex at a snail's pace or are fucking liars or are the "stop start type". 20 minutes of continious sex > 3 hours of stop start, trying and failing.

Given I'd learned to go 13 years without sex from wanting it to getting it. I learned to "fast" hence why i don't fequent sex workers as often. Its not money its cause I learned to be frugal, rather than abundant, with experiences.

 

[Akkadian]

Well, if you'd be acquainted with blackpill, you'd understand that only very small % of males can manage that and majority are either willingly or not end up participating in prostitution regardless and it's a fact.

Am talking about mentally how can someone just brush it off after paying for it, I think I'd kill myself if it ever comes to that

 

[BrendioEEE]

I wont Escortcel because it's degenerate and promoting the same degeneracy that led to Inceldom in the first place. Supporting Escortcelling is Anti Incel.

Only cucks have no pride.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Escortcelling is degeneracy. Death to degenerates!!

 

[Akkadian]

I just dont get how someone can live knowing they had to work for money while fuckers out there own businesses, stock and assets
I just dont get how someone can live knowing they had to cook their food while fuckers out there are who have personal chefs
I just dont get how someone can live knowing they had to drive their car while fuckers out have chauffeurs
I just dont get how someone can live knowing they had to defend themselves while fuckers out there have body guards

Are you getting the point, your argument is complete BS, there's always someone out there getting something for less effort than others, that's how life works.

I just don't get how someone posts such an illogical BS argument while there are fuckers out there posting well thought out logical ones

What kind of retard logic is - "Well if I can't get sex like Chad, I won't have sex with women period, that'll show em"

Why you getting butthurt, am saying that mentally I wouldn't be able to handle the fact that I had to pay for sex, your bringing cars and money involved, that's different story.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Escortcelling is degeneracy. Death to degenerates!!

Death to jihadcels. Give them what they want.

I wont Escortcel because it's degenerate and promoting the same degeneracy that led to Inceldom in the first place. Supporting Escortcelling is Anti Incel.

I really can't link the 2 I'm afraid. Siding with Radical Feminists is treason in my books.
Keep up the good work @BlkPillPres. Thanks for defending us Escortcelling copers.
Jfling at curry & blackcel water boy carriers for Charab & his 4 wives right now.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Death to jihadcels. Give them what they want.

Degenerate spotted.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Degenerate spotted.

Cringe Coper spotted.

Join us brother. You will be assimilated into Degenerate Y.

 

[BrendioEEE]

I really can't link the 2 I'm afraid. Siding with Radical Feminists is treason in my books.

Radical Feminists are on the side of "sexual liberation" and women being able to make any choice they want. Most Feminists are sex positive feminists, not sex negative, and usually their sex negative feminists are sex negative in a way that harms everyone. You're coping if you think this degeneracy isn't for your own selfish desires, and not helping feminists/lefitsts/marxist/The Cause of Inceldom.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

We are the evolution to Degenerate X (no I haven't plagiarized that & I haven't broken any copy write laws either).

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Cringe Coper spotted.

Join us brother. You will be assimilated into Degenerate Y.

Cope, death to degenerates!

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Radical Feminists are on the side of "sexual liberation" and women being able to make any choice they want. Most Feminists are sex positive feminists, not sex negative, and usually their sex negative feminists are sex negative in a way that harms everyone. You're coping if you think this degeneracy isn't for your own selfish desires, and not helping feminists/lefitsts/marxist/The Cause of Inceldom.

I agree with you. However from my own experience radical feminists demand sex segregation, LARPing lesbianism & chastity & celibacy for hetero women. Read up on it & look at their social media. Those Radical Feminists are the cause of Inceldom.

Cope, death to degenerates!

You will be assimilated.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Why you getting butthurt, am saying that mentally I wouldn't be able to handle the fact that I had to pay for sex, your bringing cars and money involved, that's different story.

It seems you don't get the point of an analogy, I'm saying mentally there are a lot of things that if we appiled your BS logic to we'd be unable to do anything in life, again how can you cope with working knowing that someone out there gets to enjoy life without working, by your logic we should just stop working.

You aren't applying your logic universally, you're saying to apply it to this specific scenario and only this one and then lets forget about where it leads in other situations in life, that's BS, if your logic isn't universally applicable then it isn't logic to begin with, its just personal bias.

 

[BrendioEEE]

I agree with you. However from my own experience radical feminists demand sex segregation, LARPing lesbianism & chastity & celibacy for hetero women. Read up on it & look at their social media. Those Radical Feminists are the cause of Inceldom.

I've studied Feminism, and it's root cause Marxism extensively because I consider it the ultimate enemy, you only need to look at The Weimar Republic where there were mother daughter child prostitute pairs on the street to see where sexual liberation will get you. Sexual freedom only benefits The Powerful, The Rich, and Chads, it's anti incel, it's anti civilization, it's just absolutely fucked.

Radical feminists are pushing sexual liberation more than Lesbianism, Chasity, and Celibacy, they are promoting promiscuity, being a slut, being a prostitute, etc.

Also there's a big difference between Feminist Lesbian Sex Negativity which is anti male and anti civilizations, and the traditionalism we've developed over thousands of years of cultural evolution which was finally starting to gurantee just about every man got to have sex early and young for as much as they wanted to with a life partner they actually cared about.

 

[Akkadian]

It seems you don't get the point of an analogy, I'm saying mentally there are a lot of things that if we appiled your BS logic to we'd be unable to do anything in life, again how can you cope with working knowing that someone out there gets to enjoy life without working, by your logic we should just stop working.

You aren't applying your logic universally, you're saying to apply it to this specific scenario and only this one and then lets forget about where it leads in other situations in life, that's BS, if your logic isn't universally applicable then it isn't logic to begin with, its just personal bias.

Your going way out of context, am specifically speaking about the escort issue, and the logic applied to the escort issue doesn't need to be made sense elsewhere, because am not taking about other things.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

I've studied Feminism, and it's root cause Marxism extensively because I consider it the ultimate enemy, you only need to look at The Weimar Republic where there were mother daughter child prostitute pairs on the street to see where sexual liberation will get you. Sexual freedom only benefits The Powerful, The Rich, and Chads, it's anti incel, it's anti civilization, it's just absolutely fucked.

Radical feminists are pushing sexual liberation more than Lesbianism, Chasity, and Celibacy, they are promoting promiscuity, being a slut, being a prostitute, etc.

Also there's a big difference between Feminist Lesbian Sex Negativity which is anti male and anti civilizations, and the traditionalism we've developed over thousands of years of cultural evolution which was finally starting to gurantee just about every man got to have sex early and young for as much as they wanted to with a life partner they actually cared about.

Radical Feminism has always been about Misandry & LARPing lesbianism & sexual conservatism.

The Weimar republic led to Nazi Germany. Sorry to break it to you. Hitler & Himmler legalised Escortcelling & Sex Dolls. They weren't your paragon of virtuosity fyi.

Escortcelling is just cope for those guys who need it like myself. That's all. We're not better than you lot. We are who we are. Incels just coping as best as we can secretly & heavily shamed & stigmatized by including our very own brethren & also criminalized & demonized by radical feminists.

 

[Deleted member 15101]

You are not a Chad (just like the vast majority of men out there) and you'll never be a Chad. There is a reason why "prostitution is the oldest job in thr world".

Am talking about mentally how can someone just brush it off after paying for it, I think I'd kill myself if it ever comes to that

There's nothing more honest then a man and a prostitute

You give her what she wants, she gives you what you want, its natural, a foid finally telling you what she really wants and giving you what you really want, no bulllshit, no mindgames, maybe one of the most honest interactions in the world
You're conditioned man

 

[BlkPillPres]

Radical Feminists are on the side of "sexual liberation" and women being able to make any choice they want. Most Feminists are sex positive feminists, not sex negative, and usually their sex negative feminists are sex negative in a way that harms everyone. You're coping if you think this degeneracy isn't for your own selfish desires, and not helping feminists/lefitsts/marxist/The Cause of Inceldom.

1. Sex positive feminism, is about sex positive FOR WOMEN, what women want, we aren't a part of that equation. Feminists don't want prostitution to be legalized because it will collectively lower female SMV, and their monopoly over sex as a resources, women's own worst enemy in the fight to hold sexual power over men, are other women practicing the worlds oldest profession.

2.You see its posts like this that make me think you are trolling, because I can never think anybody can be this stupid and not see obvious logical flaws in THEIR OWN ARGUMENTS.

So you're saying that the best way for us incels, to go against what supposedly caused inceldom, is TO NOT HAVE SEX, which would make us incel. You seeing how ridiculous and illogical this line of argumentation is?, our only way to combat the forces that supposedly create inceldom, is to to that very thing, be incel, never have sex, this is completely retarded, you have no logic at all, if we go by what you're saying were damned if we do and damned if we don't

Pay for sex and actually get to have sex - Were somehow helping feminists cause inceldom
Don't have sex, which essentially means be incel - Were incels who are sexually starved

Where is the "win" in this, did you even think this argument through

How does paying for sex, promote inceldom, that's the question you need to answer, just saying something doesn't make it true, validate that BS claim first and then start from that point, but it can't be validated, its completely false and illogical, making women become product that can be bought is the last thing feminists want, women want access to sex to be A GAMBLE and NOT A PURCHASE.

This is why the support systems like "dating", "marriage", "open relationships", etc, because under those models a woman can OPT OUT OF FUCKING YOU WHILE STILL HAVING YOU PAY HER. Feminists want the "gamble mechanic" of this "game" to always be present and male vs female relationship dynamics.

If prostitution became legal world wide, out goes female power, out goes the gamble mechanic, if a woman won't put out then you can visit your local whore, no need to chase pussy. You acting like feminists want prostitution to be completely legal is a joke, if they wanted that IT WOULD BE LEGAL ALREADY, THEY BE PUSHING FOR IN POLITICALLY.

 

[BrendioEEE]

Radical Feminism has always been about Misandry & LARPing lesbianism & sexual conservatism.

No it hasn't, it's always primarily been about sexual liberation and anarchy, to bring chaos to civilizations, the man hating, and lesbian larping was a small part of it that just assisted in the grand goal.

The Weimar republic led to Nazi Germany.

As it should have.

Sorry to break it to you. Hitler & Himmler legalised Escortcelling & Sex Dolls. They weren't your paragon of virtuosity fyi.

Source? I've been studying WW2, Hitler, and National Socialism for almost 4 years now, one of the biggest drivers for conservatism was the degeneracy in Berlin related to legalized prostitution, they had social systems in place which basically guranteed everyone would get a wife.

Just look at these guys.

A lot of these guys would have been Incel today, there's some serious abominationcels in this photo, and they were married with children, many of whom were young.

Escortcelling is just cope for those guys who need it like myself. That's all. We're not better than you lot. We are who we are. Incels just coping as best as we can secretly & heavily shamed & stigmatized by including our very own brethren & also criminalized & demonized by radical feminists.

No Escortcelling is typically just guys who have way more money in the bank than everyone else, taking advantage of a degenerate society that benefits their own selfish desires, on the level of buying drugs like Heroin from a cartel taking over a neighborhood, and harms the rest of society, but helping to promote the same degeneracy that led to Inceldom in the first place, and because you're addicted to that drug, you'll use all the copes, and illogical emotional arguments to justify it even if it goes counter to the reality of the problems that are facing the world today.

 

[BlkPillPres]

There's nothing more honest then a man and a prostitute

You give her what she wants, she gives you what you want, its natural, a foid finally telling you what she really wants and giving you what you really want, no bulllshit, no mindgames, maybe one of the most honest interactions in the world

You're conditioned man

This, its a logical and straight forward business transaction, no "gamble" involved. Its honest. These guys are just conditioned by society to "want the hunt", they stake their ego in their ability to "woo" or "trick" a woman into fucking them. I don't care for the games, I just want the product.

No it hasn't, it's always primarily been about sexual liberation FOR WOMEN and anarchy AGAINST THE PATRIARCHY

FTFY

No Escortcelling is typically just guys who have way more money in the bank than everyone else, taking advantage of a degenerate society that benefits their own selfish desires, on the level of buying drugs like Heroin from a cartel taking over a neighborhood, and harms the rest of society, but helping to promote the same degeneracy that led to Inceldom in the first place, and because you're addicted to that drug, you'll use all the copes, and illogical emotional arguments to justify it even if it goes counter to the reality of the problems that are facing the world today.

1. Please validate the "illogical emotional arguments" part, I'm sure you can give an example and explain why its illogical and emotional

2. Please lets get down to the brass and tacks, what are you offering, you see let me tell whats illogical, telling someone they should stop doing X and offering no feasible and comparable alternative. If you catch a man stealing fish, you can give him some fish, or you can teach him how to fish, but to simply tell him - "hey just stop stealing fish because its wrong and because I say so" is whats illogical.

So this question goes out to you and all the guys against paying for sex.

WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE?

Do without and suffer?
Kill ourselves?
Take drugs to lower our libido so we can live with it? (chemical castration)
Perhaps become a rapist?
Maybe a little physical castration?
Become muslim and move to one of those islamic states so we can get a wife?

WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS?

If you have none, then its you who is illogical.

 

[BrendioEEE]

1. Sex positive feminism, is about sex positive FOR WOMEN, what women want, we aren't a part of that equation. Feminists don't want prostitution to be legalized because it will collectively lower female SMV, and their monopoly over sex as a resources, women's own worst enemy in the fight to hold sexual power over men, are other women practicing the worlds oldest profession.

You're giving too much credit to women, sex positive feminism isn't about what's positive for women, it's about what's positive for the people pushing feminism and Marxism. Overall sex positivity in all forms only helps a specific class of people that hates us all.

So you're saying that the best way for us incels, to go against what supposedly caused inceldom, is TO NOT HAVE SEX, which would make us incel. You seeing how ridiculous and illogical this line of argumentation is?, our only way to combat the forces that supposedly create inceldom, is to to that very thing, be incel, never have sex, this is completely retarded, you have no logic at all, if we go by what you're saying were damned if we do and damned if we don't

No, the best way you can combat what caused Inceldom in the first place, (Sexual Freedom, Marxism, Etc) is to fight for and promote the very opposite of that. Instead of helping cause Inceldom for future generations by fulfilling your own selfish desires with a woman who doesn't love you, money that probably isn't even going into her pocket, but into the pocket of whatever degenerate pimp/escort agency that is making everything worse.

This is why the support systems like "dating", "marriage", "open relationships", etc, because under those models a woman can OPT OUT OF FUCKING YOU WHILE STILL HAVING YOU PAY HER. Feminists want the "gamble mechanic" of this "game" to always be present and male vs female relationship dynamics.
Other Than the Marriage Part, Dating and Open Relationships I consider to be degenerate, feminists don't want the gamble of Marriage and Family institutions, in fact they actively seek to destroy it and push against it. If you Marry a non virgin you're playing into feminists hands, if you support the breakdown of Marriage you're playing into their hands aswell. How about instead of destroying the very institution that held society together for thousands of years before Feminism came along, destroy the things that are making it worse, such as women's right to vote, alimony, make ramifications for divorce harsh so nobody wants to initiate it, the man or the woman unless its actually 100% necessary, etc.

If prostitution became legal world wide, out goes female power, out goes the gamble mechanic, if a woman won't put out then you can visit your local whore, no need to chase pussy. You acting like feminists want prostitution to be completely legal is a joke, if they wanted that IT WOULD BE LEGAL ALREADY, THEY BE PUSHING FOR IN POLITICALLY.

If prostitution became legal world wide say hello to the under class of men who are already shut out of jobs, and being able to create a family because of things like affirmative actions rebelling as we go full Weimar/Soddom and Gomorrah 2.0, as there's child prostitutes on the street, and most men are suffering and Inceldom is more rampant than ever.

Are you going to pretend that places like Thailand, or Amsterdam, or the red light districts of the world are benefiting the people who live there? Or are they just benefiting a small minority of men who can afford to go there?

 

[Sadist]

I never thought I'd see you of all people saying this BS, I thought you were logical, of course they are paying less, at the start of the relationship, you think they're paying less when they get into one and start "dating". I've spoken to both men and women in couples, they have more sex when they are single and looking for a significant other, when they start dating the amount of sex they have goes down (unless they are living together, which isn't the norm).

So if you compared the amount of money spent by a man in a "committed relationship", to a guy paying a whore $200 to fuck, you are getting a better deal, there are no maintenance fees, you don't have to pay her bills, buy her clothes and jewelry, celebrate holidays and anniversaries, pay for dates, food, transportation, etc. You just pay to fuck and you're done.

You think guys with GF's are having sex everyday?. Maybe if they live in the same area or live together, but from most couples I've spoken to (well the guys in couples) say they only have sex around intervals of once or twice a week, sometimes once in two weeks JFL. Sorry but your point only stands FOR ONE NIGHT STANDS AND TEMPORARY HOOKUPS.

News Flash, we aren't good looking, judging yourself by the standards of someone who is good looking is coping, we aren't even on their plane of existence, its ridiculous what you're doing here.

Your wrong and heres why:
- You can't compare a relationship with prostitution. Prostitutes are the equivalent of a one night stand. You fuck her and leave. To try to equate it would be to have her live with you while you pay her. Obviously that would cost a ridiculous amount. You pay 200 to fuck her once, you buy her drinks to fuck her once. So your whole "GF are so expensive" is irrelevant because when looking to have a gf sex isn't the only thing in mind or benefit coming out of it.

Its not worth a lot less, good looking men just get a discount, you are looking at it from the perspective of incels being overcharged, were not being overcharged, were being charged the exact price, good looking men get discounts.

I get your point a bit, but I don't feel like much of a cuck with my cock down the throat of the person "cucking me". If afterwards the bitch told me along the lines of what you were saying here and said "I just cucked you" with my cum dripping from the side of her mouth, excuse me if her saying those words while being in such a submissive state doesn't make me take it seriously.

How did I get cucked, if she got fucked

At this point you are seriously stretching the scope of the definition here, if I can literally fuck a woman and still end up being her cuck, then aren't we cucks for shopping at stores, everything we buy is at a higher price than what the salesmen got it for, are we being cucked by shop owners?

-The foid puts the value on her pussy. She says only 6+ can get in. Anything lower is going to get charged/charged more to get in. The higher tier men aren't getting a "discount" they are just meeting the requirement. You paying is not meeting the requirement and having to make that difference up with money/more money.

-Whether you feel like a cuck or not when doing it doesn't matter. Even if she fakes being a helpless cocksucker in front of you in the end of the day she is taking advantage of your biological need and desperation to rinse you out of your money. She could easily get the sex for free and the money in an actual job but why would she when she can just cuck you out off your hard earned jewbucks?

- The store analogy is awful sorry. An equivalent would be a salesman naturally charges 5$ for a specific item to all customers but to you he charges 20$, if you still buy it you are getting ripped off and in the prostitute case cucked for accepting such a horrible deal.

You have to be trolling.

Twitch streamers and all variety of e-whores making money WITHOUT HAVING TO FUCK YOU
Whores make but BUT HAVE TO FUCK YOU

How the fuck can you even argue that the two are the same, or both cucked.

Please google findom and look at that shit.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=findom
"A combination of 2 words: financial domination. Financial domination is a very real fetish involving a submissive being "forced" to give money to the Dominant. Terms like money slave, paypig, moneypig, walletslave, wallet rape are all part of the play involved in this type of Domination and submission.

Some men are very turned on by and seek out findom Mistresses and are aroused by the act of submitting so completely to a Dominant Female."

I'm going to ask you flat out here, after this I'm done, this will show whether you are operating on logic or you have some kind of bias against paying for sex.

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS FINDOM, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

- They both provide a sexual release for you while overpricing you.

- Findom is more cucked because you are getting turned on by the idea of getting cucked.

 

[BrendioEEE]

FTFY

Cept you didn't, sexual liberation never benefits men, no matter what, it only benefits a small elite of men, and makes the rest of society suffer as women have become a sex slave class being fed shekels and cum pretending they're happy and liberated as the majority of men rot in Inceldom.

1. Please validate the "illogical emotional arguments" part, I'm sure you can give an example and explain why its illogical and emotional

One example would be denying Marxism and Feminism is primarily about anarchy in general which only benefits women and elites because you can afford to escortcel is an emotional and illogical argument.

WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE?

WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS?

 

[BlkPillPres]

Your going way out of context, am specifically speaking about the escort issue, and the logic applied to the escort issue doesn't need to be made sense elsewhere, because am not taking about other things.

Yes it does idiot, that's how logic works, if you can't get something that simple then you don't understand what logic is. Maybe you don't understand the implication of your own words.

You said:

I just dont get how someone can live knowing they had to pay for sex while fuckers out there are getting laid whenever

The implication of that statement (mabye you wording the sentence wrongly) is that ONE SHOULD FEEL AS YOU DID.

You didn't say - "Well me personally I could not do X because I would feel bad about it"

That's a very neutral sentence structure, and it makes you the target and focus of your statement.

You actual wording structure is about indirectly shaming other men, as in "how could you not feel X"

News Flash - Sentences have different meanings based on how you word them, maybe you didn't do this on purpose, but that's how it comes across based on your wording, had the wording been "neutral" AND PLACE THE "ONUS" ON YOURSELF nobody would have argued against you so fervently, but your wording PLACES THE "ONUS" ON THE MEN YOU SPEAK OF.

Again, its like saying "How could yo do X, you should feel bad"

So If you didn't mean that, then there's nothing left to argue about the universal applicability of your logic, but the moment you try to basically throw your logic around other mens lives THEN YOU HAVE TO VALIDATE IT.

THE ONUS IS ON YOU

 

[Salustio]

Even Chad fuck hookers. You don’t have to be an incel to escortcel. A lot of married guys pay hookers for the sex they are not getting from wives.

I don’t know why some incels are idealizing the marriage, don’t know why they call you “virgin” if you fucked only escorts. There are a lot of things I don’t understand about those incels, I don’t know why they are worshipping women so hard and don’t want to pay for sex.

I understand poorcels who can’t afford hookers and have to get a girlfriend to have sex. But richcels don’t need a girlfriend, they don’t need to be slave to the vagina, they can be free to fuck who they want and have fun with hookers.

I don’t know, sometimes I just think that most incels WANT to be betabuxxers, that this would be their ultimate goal. Maybe incels are just a group of failed normies, slaves to the white vagina, non-misoginists, with low libido lowtest and lowIQ.

I’m happy that at least someone is fucking escorts and isn’t failing for this retarded narrative that lowIQcels are spreading about escortcelling.

 

[BlkPillPres]

when looking to have a gf sex isn't the only thing in mind or benefit coming out of it.

It is for me, I'm way past the point of "feeling love".

The foid puts the value on her pussy. She says only 6+ can get in. Anything lower is going to get charged/charged more to get in. The higher tier men aren't getting a "discount" they are just meeting the requirement. You paying is not meeting the requirement and having to make that difference up with money/more money.

That's literally just the inverse of what I said, there's no way for you to validate whether your side is true or my side is.

Incel is being overcharged for not meeting a standard
Attractive men are being discounted for meeting a standard

Both propositions have the same end results and could equally be true because they are just inverses of eachother.

She could easily get the sex for free and the money in an actual job but why would she when she can just cuck you out off your hard earned jewbucks?

1. You do realize a lot of these women are foisted into this line of work from child hood right?

2. A lot of these women are uneducated and unskilled, so they couldn't "easily" get the money at all, they'd have to go do physical labor, something that the male body is better at and their female bodies would struggle doing

I get your point but for a lot of these women, being a whore is the best alternative, because think about it, being a whore is natural to women, all women are whores at the end of the day, just to VARYING DEGREES.

They both provide a sexual release for you while overpricing you.
Findom is more cucked because you are getting turned on by the idea of getting cucked.

At least you haven't gone completely off the logic reservation, had me scared there for sec, thought you were going to reply saying they are equally the same.

But here's the thing, the reason why I asked you this question, is kind of a trap, if you said they were equal then you'd have proven how illogical you are, if you said they aren't and explained why, then now you've put your original argument under inspection.

Both are equally cucked and heres why

So lets lay this all out.

I ask you to answer where you think findom and prostitution are equal, I did that on purpose, I used the word "equal" on purpose, because I'm trying to lead to what you can't deny, that paying for sex, and paying to watch a streamer jiggle her tits aren't equally as cucked, which was your first claim that started this argument, so now you are basically trapped JFL.

Now I'm going to ask you the same question, but instead of findom, I just throw in the variable from the beginning, e-whoring.

Notice how I basically just walked you back to the beginning argument lol.

Now were going from:

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS FINDOM, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

TO

IS PAYING TO ACTUALLY FUCK A WOMAN AS "CUCKED" AS E-WHORING, ARE THEY BOTH EQUAL?

What is you answer @Sadist

Careful now

1. Say that they are both equal LIKE YOU DID BEFORE:

Both are equally cucked and heres why

and you contradict your answer to the findom vs prostitution question where you admit that there are varying degrees and one is definitely "more cucked" than the other

2. Say that they aren't equal and you arrive back at square one, agreeing with me, and erasing basically the only argument that made me challenge your stance

 

[Deleted member 10124]

No it hasn't, it's always primarily been about sexual liberation and anarchy, to bring chaos to civilizations, the man hating, and lesbian larping was a small part of it that just assisted in the grand goal.

As it should have.

Source? I've been studying WW2, Hitler, and National Socialism for almost 4 years now, one of the biggest drivers for conservatism was the degeneracy in Berlin related to legalized prostitution, they had social systems in place which basically guranteed everyone would get a wife.

Just look at these guys.
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A lot of these guys would have been Incel today, there's some serious abominationcels in this photo, and they were married with children, many of whom were young.

No Escortcelling is typically just guys who have way more money in the bank than everyone else, taking advantage of a degenerate society that benefits their own selfish desires, on the level of buying drugs like Heroin from a cartel taking over a neighborhood, and harms the rest of society, but helping to promote the same degeneracy that led to Inceldom in the first place, and because you're addicted to that drug, you'll use all the copes, and illogical emotional arguments to justify it even if it goes counter to the reality of the problems that are facing the world today.

I've actually spoken with Radical Feminists & looked up their teachings. Sexual liberation has never been with Radical Feminism. Ever.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...ls-flourished-during-the-Nazi-occupation.html



You didn't look hard enough. That took me 2 seconds to google.

Escortcelling is for guys who work & cope. That's all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...diers-wouldnt-catch-syphilis-prostitutes.html

I think you're trying too hard to be a Nazi. I think you're half of (((THEM))) & LARPing as a Nazi. You either are or not. Nazism is just a set of ideals & philosophies that ANYONE can plagiarise & recreate.

Heil Horowitz... Heil Hitler... 14 words for White Women... 14 words against miscegenation of Jewesses marrying outside...

Really basic stuff.

Actually funnily enough BOTH Nazis & Jews were & still are against "Nice Jewish Boys" marrying Shiksas...

 

[Juxtaposition6]

I will not spend money on exploitative whores.

 

[Firefly]

Sex you have paid for does not feel the same as sex you were given for free because a femoid likes you.
This long ass thread is just one huge cope trying to justify your stupid actions which gave value to femoid's bodies.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

i'd fuck more escorts if it wasnt for the high price...

THIS!!!

Sex you have paid for does not feel the same as sex you were given for free because a femoid likes you.
This long ass thread is just one huge cope trying to justify your stupid actions which gave value to femoid's bodies.

We know this. It's whether or not you're justified in attacking Escortcelling Copers. I say you are not.

I will not spend money on exploitative whores.

Your call. To each his own.

 

[BlkPillPres]

No, the best way you can combat what caused Inceldom in the first place, (Sexual Freedom, Marxism, Etc) is to fight for and promote the very opposite of that.

Again a key thing I notice about illogical people is that they like, no they LOVE vague platitudes (google the word if you don't know what it is). Give some specific examples, how do incels, men who lack so much social status and power in a society that they can't even get sex, "combat what caused inceldom".

Please stop with the vague BS, because who can't argue logically love to rely on that shit because they know their arguments don't hold water, give an example on what we can do, how we can do it, its feasibility. Give something other than some blue pilled normie sounding BS which iroincally is no different than when normies say - "just be yourself" or "put yourself out there" or "be confident". They never specify what those tasks entail because now the onus is on them, they leave it vague so that there is a loophole, so when you fail they can just say "well you didn't do it right, try harder".

Instead of helping cause Inceldom for future generations by fulfilling your own selfish desires with a woman who doesn't love you, money that probably isn't even going into her pocket, but into the pocket of whatever degenerate pimp/escort agency that is making everything worse.

1. Now I know for a fact you are blue pilled, love doesn't exist, its not a real thing, stop coping, its all just chemical reactions in your brain, lust is more real than love is, and even lust is just a chemical reaction, but at least lust has no "moral constraints" on it and it is congruent with our biology. Lust is logical and straight forward, "love" is emotional and illogical.

You can make a woman's body lust for you whether she wants to or not, heck its documented a lot of women orgasm during rape, you can't make a woman love you. I like to align myself and my actions with logical concepts, there's more "power" behind it.

2. JFL at caring about society at this point in your existence, you are definitely blue pilled, you must be a larp.

Sex you have paid for does not feel the same EMOTIONALLY as sex you were given for free because a femoid likes you. It does feel the same PHYSICALLY though

FTFY

This long ass thread is just one huge cope trying to justify your stupid actions which gave value to femoid's bodies.

Nobody has to "give value" to women's bodies, womens bodies are the sole means by which heterosexual men can derive intense sexual pleasure and reproduce to pass on their genetics, their bodies are inherently valuable, rules like "women and children first" during evacuation would not have come into being if this wasn't an established fact of reality.

JFL at you thinking men paying for sex is what establishes the value of the female body, the female body is an invaluable resource, it always has been, biology inherently props up its value, it doesn't need help from genetic rejects to do that.

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This might be might shortest reply in an argument, if this is your solution, I rest my case, I'm an ethnic so I might as well just off myself if a racist regime is your so called solution to inceldom.

I REST MY CASE, thanks for proving me right.

 

[BrendioEEE]

I've actually spoken with Radical Feminists & looked up their teachings. Sexual liberation has never been with Radical Feminism. Ever.

Yeah so have I, you're wrong, I went to Univsersity, i've witnessed first hand these feminist gatherings, I've extensively studied marxist and feminist literature, there is some sex negativity, which tends to reinforce the type of sex positivity that they promote.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...ls-flourished-during-the-Nazi-occupation.html

This one is about French Brothels they took over with no direct sources or evidence. I don't doubt that soldiers partook in degenerate actions abroad, I thought we were talking about Germany itself, or during times wartime was minimal. For example every army raped aswell, but some armies had much higher rape rates than others, and the one who had the lowest rape rates seemed to be the German's, a show of their moral superiority over the rest overall.

Linking an over an hour video is cool and all, but do you have any highlights to point out or evidence in the video you'd like me to address specifically?

You didn't look hard enough. That took me 2 seconds to google.

Yeah and typically what pops up after a few seconds of googling tends to be Jewish Propaganda, but as I said if you have some sources, or specific bits of evidence so I could see the context, i'd be fine with that,

Escortcelling is for guys who work & cope. That's all.

Escortcelling is for guys who can afford it at the detriment of everyone around them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...diers-wouldnt-catch-syphilis-prostitutes.html

I think you're trying too hard to be a Nazi. I think you're half of (((THEM))) & LARPing as a Nazi. You either are or not. Nazism is just a set of ideals & philosophies that ANYONE can plagiarise & recreate.

It's funny how you're trying to pull the I'M the Jew card when Jews have been pushing promiscuity and degeneracy for over 100 years now, and i'm pushing completely against it, if we're talking about Genetics, i'm not Ashkenazi a bit, I have the genetic tests to back that up, if I was I probably wouldn't even be on here because i'd be able to Just Be Jewish in Israel and sweep up some low IQ Israeli girl like h3h3 did.

Also I have plainly said on here many times i'm a National Socialist, I have encouraged people to read Mein Kampf, I am involved in NatSoc groups, etc, I just don't identify as one publicly or on video for Optics purposes.

 

[SeifEsteem]

This is bordering on cuck propaganda, next you'll be saying incels should enter open relationships

If you use prostitutes, pay cam girls, buy porn, then you support female privilege

for the acquisition of sex, yes, go do that