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Story Fontaine's theory on shyness and how you can fix yours

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This post is addressed to the mentalcels. I want them to get the fuck out of this forum asap so I give them advice on how to fix their inhib.

I personally went from 9/10 inhib to 3/10 inhib in a span of few years (despite being butt ugly) by adhering to certain principles I've gleaned from PUA books/blogs and independent thinking.

First off: "therapy" is a scam. "Exposure therapy" is a scam also, because it doesn't solve the problem at the root. Drugs are bad too, a harmful cope on the long run.

Shyness is an irrational fear of people. Fearing people because they are likely to harm you physically or ruin your reputation in a workplace is not shyness, is normal. What is not normal is being afraid of asking a waiter for sugar.

Shyness has genetic roots. Most personality traits have been shown to be at least half genetic. In my experience, about one third of white people are born shy. It's probably lower in blacks and higher in asians.

So you'll remain shy all your life. However you can minimize the symptoms of shyness so as to reach good levels of daily functioning.

#1 ego : having an ego aggravates shyness. Shyness and the ego are very linked. When you fear social rejections, failures or ridicule, you're actually fearing a drop in your ego and self-esteem. The solution is to have no ego and self-esteem. Something that is already at zero can't drop further. Obviously completely killing off your ego is something the best monks struggle with, but you can reduce it to 1 or 2%. All major philosophical and religious traditions can help you reach this goal.

#2 eye contact: if you have trouble maintaining eye contact, don't despair. Just watch the nose or brow of your interlocutor. Heinrich Himmler (a shy manlet) reportedly watched a small circle above the head of his subordinates when talking to them. After a while, you'll have become accustomed to this and you'll be able to gradually increase the amount of eye contact, first with the right or left eye, then with the two eyes. But please never look into the eyes of people more than 2 seconds at a time, that's creepy.

#3 masturbation and PE : there's something in masturbation that strongly decreases confidence over the long haul, perhaps it's lowered testosterone, perhaps not, but overall you should stop masturbating. Also, you should exercise. Don't underestimate the psychological impact of testosterone and muscles on confidence.

#4 rational pessimism: if you're an incel loser, your social interactions, on average, will tend to go badly or be disappointing. You should embrace it instead of fearing it. Learn to love failure and being rejected. Expect failure, always. That way when Stacy says "ew" you can't be disappointed or surprised. If she says something else it's a bonus. Things can only go up, never down, when you expect everyone to shit on you.

That's all. Obviously this can only work on actual mentalcels. Ugly truecels can benefit from this too, but their inhib will always hit a floor because there is a strong link between inhibition and feelings of physical unattractiveness in our reptilian brain.
 
mentalcels BTFO
 
Ironically, years of social isolation cured my high inhib
 
Very interesting and High IQ. This should be pinned by admins for reasons.
 
If only I looked human but then again, I wouldn’t have been as tentative.
 
JFL at the nazi high command being all high inhib autists. Biggest copers of all time.
 
I agree with fapping making you shy, but im too addicted to quit smfh.
 
I'll give my advice, what lowers my inhibition the most is WINNING.

I'm naturally high-inhib, but on some days when I make more money online than on other days, my confidence increases through the roof, and I can feel that I can talk to the everyone in the world on that day, and I do it, people around me generally see the difference on that day.

So increasing confidence means less shyness, I also plan to increase my confidence even more in the future by looksmaxxing, getting plastic surgeries, gaining muscle, etc...
 
What the fuck is this pua bullshit about attitude.

You are your looks. Shit like eye contact or "not caring" and assertiveness is seen as creepy and obnoxious if you are ugly. Shyness and low inhibition is seen as cute or mysterious if you are good looking and people will actively help you socialize.

tbh I miss the old @Fontaine who would spill true blackpills and not this sugarcoated shit implying anything other than looks matter.
 
What the fuck is this pua bullshit about attitude.

You are your looks. Shit like eye contact or "not caring" and assertiveness is seen as creepy and obnoxious if you are ugly. Shyness and low inhibition is seen as cute or mysterious if you are good looking and people will actively help you socialize.

tbh I miss the old @Fontaine who would spill true blackpills and not this sugarcoated shit implying anything other than looks matter.
low IQ. It's not 100% looks and being shy and unassertive is a death sentence if you are not male model tier in looks. It's not all black and white.
 
low IQ. It's not 100% looks and being shy and unassertive is a death sentence if you are not male model tier in looks. It's not all black and white.

Beung very shy snd unassertive is only a death sentence with conpletely neutral looks, which nearly anyone dont have. Even a slighly good looking guy will be under some halo effect influence, evrn if its not as strong as Chad's

Its all looks. Unless you are conpletely and absolutely unrealistically neutral, you are your looks as a male.
 
I'll give my advice, what lowers my inhibition the most is WINNING.
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That's true (I do feel more baseline confidence since I'm rich), however depending on winning to make you low inhib puts you in a fragile position. If you run out of narcissistic supply, you're fucked. The best solution is having no ego, like a fakir or monk.
What the fuck is this pua bullshit about attitude.

You are your looks. Shit like eye contact or "not caring" and assertiveness is seen as creepy and obnoxious if you are ugly. Shyness and low inhibition is seen as cute or mysterious if you are good looking and people will actively help you socialize.

tbh I miss the old @Fontaine who would spill true blackpills and not this sugarcoated shit implying anything other than looks matter.
You should read the last sentence. If you're ugly you're fucked and can only do damage control, you'll never be a socialite.

"Attitude" does matter. I like you Zyros, but your extreme determinism doesn't help you. Free will does exist.
 
That's true (I do feel more baseline confidence since I'm rich), however depending on winning to make you low inhib puts you in a fragile position. If you run out of narcissistic supply, you're fucked. The best solution is having no ego, like a fakir or monk.

You should read the last sentence. If you're ugly you're fucked and can only do damage control, you'll never be a socialite.

"Attitude" does matter. I like you Zyros, but your extreme determinism doesn't help you. Free will does exist.

Attitude only does determine things if you are an absolutely neutral 4.5-5/10. If you go outside of that range (which everyone does), then looks begin to direct your life.
 
Beung very shy snd unassertive is only a death sentence with conpletely neutral looks, which nearly anyone dont have. Even a slighly good looking guy will be under some halo effect influence, evrn if its not as strong as Chad's

Its all looks. Unless you are conpletely and absolutely unrealistically neutral, you are your looks as a male.
The halo of a slightly good looking guy or chadlite isn't as powerful as you think. Those qualities are just unattractive and women have enough good looking guys hitting on them to not choose them. Unless you are a Chad it's a death sentence. Good thing is you can actually improve those kind of things and you only need a very basic level to succeed.
 
The halo of a slightly good looking guy or chadlite isn't as powerful as you think. Those qualities are just unattractive and women have enough good looking guys hitting on them to not choose them. Unless you are a Chad it's a death sentence. Good thing is you can actually improve those kind of things and you only need a very basic level to succeed.

Of course if you arent chad women wont knock on your door and drag you out of your house id you are shy, but as an above average man you at least wont be seen as creepy and peoole will still make things easier.
 
I appreciate that you are trying to help but these are all obvious things that have been said every time the subject comes up.
 
I appreciate that you are trying to help but these are all obvious things that have been said every time the subject comes up.
The same basic things must unfortunately be told again and again because the supply of mentalcels to incel communities shows no sign of dropping.
 
This is very high iq
 
Ironically, years of social isolation cured my high inhib
That’s very strange, never heard of that happening before. Can you give some examples of before and after?
 
Alright everyone, fuck what Fontaine said, and listen to the superior Semite.

The only way you will boost your confidence and decrease your shyness, as a man, is to labor in a manually engaging yet not-so-daunting job with other men, a bunch in preference, 20-30. There should be a good mix of complete asshole-ish douchebags, cool guys with girlfriends, moderately obnoxious guys, blacks, immigrants and a couple incompetent beta males.

I've worked 11 days in a beer warehouse where we use pallet trucks to carry large amounts of beer in a truck, and I've experienced significant boosts in energy, workload acceptance and ways to hold myself in front of others, as well as having less trouble looking in front of me instead of looking down or awkwardly.

So yeah, just work full time in a warehouse for an extended period of time and you'll be in way better shape.
 
This is very high iq
Notice how it's the exact opposite of what most therapists tell their patients. Most therapists tell their patients to "work on their self-esteem" and "stop expecting the worst". Of course this doesn't work because you should expect the worst: people are mostly rude assholes. They will actively dismiss you, talk over you, etc. Nice and polite people are very rare nowadays.
 
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This is useful, especially the part about suppression of the ego, that was the way I cured my anxiety. Once you realise ‘ego’ is tied to a range of factors beyond your control you realise it is irrational to have one, and you begin to look down on others for having one. Having a big ego is basically taking personal credit for your unchosen genetic traits, taking pride in that which you had no part in creating. It’s a lot like nationalism in that respect, and that the more you indulge it the more you become a slave to it.
 
Just interact with normans as little as possible, treat them like NPCs to be bartered with.
 
This is useful, especially the part about suppression of the ego, that was the way I cured my anxiety. Once you realise ‘ego’ is tied to a range of factors beyond your control you realise it is irrational to have one, and you begin to look down on others for having one.
Glad to see I'm not the only "enlightened one" here.

Yeah, investing energy in ego defense is always counter-productiveh. The more you protest about how others see you, the more their negative opinion of you becomes entrenched; it's like a comedian insisting he's funny when he's obviously not. For recent examples of the stupidity of having an ego, see Elon Musk lashing out at the cave rescue guy. Not only did he fail to humiliate the guy he insulted, but everybody has shit on Musk for having thin skin. Had he remained silent he would have ironically better safeguarded his ego.

My favorite example of an "ego-less" guy is Aragorn in Lord of the Rings: he lets his accomplishments speak for themselves and never contradicts Boromir when he insults him. In the end he's the one who ends up on the throne of Gondor.

I have no idea why ego exists and why so few people manage to overcome it. With the recent downfall of Christianity in the West, narcissism (secure or insecure) is reaching gigantic proportions. I now assume every young guy I meet is a narcissist until proven otherwise.
 
Ego death worked to make me low-inhibition.
 
just approach - your shyness will be evaporated
 
What the fuck is this pua bullshit about attitude.

You are your looks. Shit like eye contact or "not caring" and assertiveness is seen as creepy and obnoxious if you are ugly. Shyness and low inhibition is seen as cute or mysterious if you are good looking and people will actively help you socialize.

tbh I miss the old @Fontaine who would spill true blackpills and not this sugarcoated shit implying anything other than looks matter.
For people in the normie range 4-6, you could probably get laid from deploying the tactics he's mentioned.. Obviously the worse looking you are the harder it's going to be, below a 4 and no amount of "Tactics" or "social engineering" will help you.
if you're a 7 or above it becomes increasingly easier for you, and you may even get IOI's enough to actually GET approached by foids.

Your personality is ultimately meant to supplement your looks... Ofcourse there is a cutoff period where no amount of personality will be able to overcome your looks.

TBH from all the pictures i've seen of people on this forum from the discord, most people are in the 5-6 range.
There are atleast 5 people on the discord that are 7/10 and a few straight up CHADS.
If the proportionality of discord users/people i've seen is anything to go off of...
Most people here are Upper tier normie at the very least.
 
killing your ego = becoming a plant with no desires,feelings and personality
 
killing your ego = becoming a plant with no desires,feelings and personality
Nope, the exact contrary. Once you have no ego you no longer care about people's opinions, so you can do the shit you truly want without fearing ridicule. For instance, recently I've read again (and enjoyed) Harry Potter. Is enjoying Harry Potter shameful at 25 years old? Definitely, but I don't care at all.
 
Good post with some exeptions, like learning to "love failure" which is just going against human nature. If you're the cel who zapped his brain then maybe that's what's necessary but whatever. I tried and failed #1 and #3 already but I'll give them all except no-fap a try.
 
#3 masturbation and PE : there's something in masturbation that strongly decreases confidence over the long haul, perhaps it's lowered testosterone, perhaps not, but overall you should stop masturbating.

#3 is bunk. According to this logic I should be the most confident chad suave on the planet.
 
somewhat high IQ post. I mostly struggle with #1 these days. Unfortunately you didn't offer any real advice on how to overcome it.
Also drugs/alcohol is a good cope in moderation
 
somewhat high IQ post. I mostly struggle with #1 these days. Unfortunately you didn't offer any real advice on how to overcome it.
Also drugs/alcohol is a good cope in moderation
Watch Youtube videos featuring Buddhist monks.

This guy is great:

 
Some advices here are nice but the first is just ridiculous. Reducing the ego to 1% will take years of intense meditation and would still be an unachievable goals for most, not only that but if your ego reach 1% (i highly doubt most people could, even with years of training), you will be in a nondual state where there is no "you" to begin with, no desires, no fears, no interests, so you won't cate about girls or social encounters anyway since there would be no "you"
 
Some advices here are nice but the first is just ridiculous. Reducing the ego to 1% will take years of intense meditation and would still be an unachievable goals for most, not only that but if your ego reach 1% (i highly doubt most people could, even with years of training), you will be in a nondual state where there is no "you" to begin with, no desires, no fears, no interests, so you won't cate about girls or social encounters anyway since there would be no "you"
Good point, 1 or 2% was a strong exaggeration for purposes of simplicity. I meant reducing your ego to the point where most instances of social rejection are unable to harm you meaningfully. I think this level is maybe around 20%, I don't know. No way to calculate it accurately. I think you're already on a good level if you are able to agree with external criticism of you without feeling offended.

For instance if someone said to me that I am a loser, I would smile and agree with him (even if I am not, at least not completely). I now welcome and like criticism. Fair criticism helps me become better, while unfair criticism helps me further destroy my ego and attachment to the world. Win-win.
 
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So you're saying that it's totally game over if I have no shyness yet 0 success?:feelstrash:
 
tldr

shyness means fuck all, shy chad still gets pussy
 
Good point, 1 or 2% was a strong exaggeration for purposes of simplicity. I meant reducing your ego to the point where most instances of social rejection are unable to harm you meaningfully. I think this level is maybe around 20%, I don't know. No way to calculate it accurately. I think you're already on a good level if you are able to agree with external criticism of you without feeling offended.

For instance if someone said to me that I am a loser, I would smile and agree with him (even if I am not, at least not completely). I now welcome and like criticism. Fair criticism helps me become better, while unfair criticism helps me further destroy my ego and attachment to the world. Win-win.

Just reducing it to 80% would make a huuuuuge difference, more than half would change your whole life, not just shyness, you may start not even caring about things you cared about.
 
This post is addressed to the mentalcels. I want them to get the fuck out of this forum asap
shy guys are outcasts even in forums dedicated to outcasts. JFL

I also wrote my own low inhib max guide and I think its better but everyone got offended and I got a bunch of hate messages because its "bluepilled" while you saying "just eliminate your ability to feel pride/embarassment bro" gets a bunch of "high IQ" replies.
Once you realise ‘ego’ is tied to a range of factors beyond your control you realise it is irrational to have one, and you begin to look down on others for having one.
:lul::lul::lul:
totally killed your ego there buddy. Perfect reason why I think these "kill your ego" types are so deluded.
 
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I know you say exposure therapy is a “scam”, but I still wanna test it out aswell as CBT.
 
OP you didnt list a real plan to follow to overcome high inhib
 

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