Yes lol, there are even tons of northern europeans that look like that
italian DNA barely exists
JFL at you, fucking retard. I don't parrot anything, I do restate what he says sometimes, but I do give him credit for stating something first. There isn't really much conversation diversity in the arguments we get involved in, so it's really a matter of who says what first. You obviously haven't looked hard enough if you cant find any posts that come from my words.
And yeah, I do look Armenian or Anatolian passing, but I am genetically European, wether I look passing or not. Also, Armenoid is also present in and is native to Europe, so you can seethe.
I would go into more detail on your retardation, but I'm at work
then she could be norwegian too
It's true lol
It's not true. Where you from to say this?
She could actually, she looks british
new generation british
No lol, old generation british
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You are talking to yourself no? You are denying history. Southern Italy is 80% same as Turkey. Turkey is in your eyes a armenoid nation. You contradict yourself so much.
Here is Franco. He is from Galicia. A place you'd defend as Nordic in appearance.
You prove your lack of knowledge again. Assyrians are a different group of people from Syrians. Why should Syrians look like assyrian?
To add more. Do you believe all Armenians are armenoid? Armenoid is higher frequency in Armenia. Thats why its named that. But not every armenian is armenoid. This is the same for Assyroid phenotype.
Your friend is from Italy. He is armenoid too. This alone is not a coincidence. It is normal.
If you look at Mediterranean phenotype maps you will see that they overlap. It is to be expected.
Here is a Mediterranean map. The coastal people will look like similar. This changes once you enter inner Turkey, inner Egypt, inner Algeria and so on.
To deny a commonality amongst Mediterranean peoples is ridiculous. Mediterranean peoples were the first colonizers and mixed heavily. Mycenaean Greeks have samples that are half Phoenician already. It is culture, religion and history that is important. It is these aspects that makes Greeks and Turks enemies.
keep searching their ancestors,something will show up
@joocel52
I'm a European and I get annoyed by this "x Europeans aren't white" stuff more than most people here ngl, because of how completely detached from reality it is.
Yup. And as always whenever this topic is brought up, this forum shows that it very much is a below-average IQ one
.Legitimately WHO in real life actually, genuinely treats Meds as not white? Legitimately who has ever described Hernán Cortéz as a non-white conqueror who conquered other non-whites, or Roman Empire as a non-European civilization
?This shit is more infuriating than Flat Earthers I swear, at least you can't really see whether the Earth is flat or round when you look out of the window, but when you live in a world where absolutely nobody IRL pretends that white Europeans are anything else than white Europeans, and then you decide to go full retard and say "Well akshually, they are something completely different
," bruh, I don't even know wtf to say to that.
Yup. And as always whenever this topic is brought up, this forum shows that it very much is a below-average IQ one
it's because the forum is mostly comprised of low IQ shitskins who project on usi hate how they have to be here
Wouldn't those Dark Greeks get perceived as gypsises irl?
Slavs can't be compared to Italians though. There was no thousands of years of mixing between slavs and middle east people.
I am not european. This is not my point. My point is that it's not genetics or appearance that make me as a Turk non European. It is my history, tradition and religion. If I had the same face and born in Italy, balkans no one would think I am foreign.
I don't like also when an American with little knowledge tells me what I am and how I must look like.
Italian are European. They are different from Turks because of history, religion, culture and traditions. If you make identity about genetics then you may as well call me Italian now.
No they're all fully british, if they were italian/spanish they'd be considered brown, but they're considered white because they're British. It's called confirmation bias
No, are tanned british people seen as gypsies?
Italians never mixed with middle easterners tho
That's why they are majority anatolian greek and share 80% genes with modern Turkish people?
The genetic structure of the Turkish population reveals high levels of variation and admixture - PMC
We delineated the fine-scale genetic structure of the Turkish population by using sequencing data of 3,362 unrelated Turkish individuals from different geographical origins and demonstrated the position of Turkey in terms of human migration and ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A study shows that Turkish people are closest to Tuscany people. I have legit studies. You guys have only hostile words.
There was no thousands of years of mixing between Italians & MENA jfl
Here's one I have using K=20, and it shows that Yes, there is similarities & closeness but not a huge overlap & still distinction
Most MENA are Natufian+INF, though yes Anatolians & Levantines have some ANF admixture
Theres a graph here they explains it.
I've researched this a lot
Italians have more Steppe/Yamnaya, and as per what I've shown:
North-Central ones are close to other Europeans, with Southern ones drifted.
The genetic structure of the Turkish population reveals high levels of variation and admixture - PMC
We delineated the fine-scale genetic structure of the Turkish population by using sequencing data of 3,362 unrelated Turkish individuals from different geographical origins and demonstrated the position of Turkey in terms of human migration and ...
A study shows that Turkish people are closest to Tuscany people. I have legit studies. Y
According to this here, the Turkish DNA seems verrrryyyy drifted between populations
Italian North is also close to Sardinian, French, Croat, etc.
I do admit my tone was a bit hostile at the beginning, but I explained why due to the MiH situation
I've not used any hostile words, and I've shown sources
@anandkonda
What do you think of the charts I shared here?
It does not change anything. It shows that identity by genes is nonsensical in Mediterranean. I don't consider myself or Turks European.@anandkonda
Lifefuel for Made in Heaven. He'd want Turks to be white@anandkonda
Turks like Made in Heaven argue they are "white" but not European
Yeah jfl
Sure, there are Meds & Balkans who are swarthy & yes, some of them do pass as MENA due to sharing phenotypes, but most have a distinct look
I've also shown tons of genetic data & anthropological stuff
I used to think this place was high-IQ, but I've learned it sadly isn'tYup. And as always whenever this topic is brought up, this forum shows that it very much is a below-average IQ one
Most here likely just became blackpilled by circumstance, such as shit life experiences & maybe there YouTube algorithm being based that day.
Exactly jflLegitimately WHO in real life actually, genuinely treats Meds as not white? Legitimately who has ever described Hernán Cortéz as a non-white conqueror who conquered other non-whites, or Roman Empire as a non-European civilization
Wasn't that was because Anatolian Greeks were genetically ANF with some Steppe(and ofc Natufian)?
So not "mixing" since that would show very high natufian & INF in Italians.
That site isn’t true .
Bro.... he will refute this easily.
Outdated. He'll post g25 rape.
We'll see I guess but Italy and Greece have always been pretty important. Survive the jive made multiple tweets regarding the topic of a population replacement in Italy and Greece by Anatolians and Levantines. That's why the germanic migration in Italy shifted them back to Etruscans. Before that Greece, Turkey and Italy was one pop.
I sent you articles before. Why are you ignoring this? You are denying history and when I correct your mistakes you ignore it.
There are genetic studies that show Phoenician ancestry in Mycenaean Greece. You are not only ignorant you are also unwilling to learn.
K20 is old. You use outdated genetic tools to disprove my updated modern tools?
What are these terms anyway? Medid, semid? I shared a legit genetic paper and you send me semid and medid?
What?! ANF is a genetic component from Middle East. Anatolia is in modern turkey. Turks are predominantly ANF. Levantines have ANF too. Jews are mostly ANF too.
I am shocked how this hasn't appeared on your search feed. It is basics.
Of course. They are 20% german in many places. 20% does not change phenotype drastically. You can look at Turks. Western turkey has up to 30% Turkic genes. Only a small minority looks central Asian.
No this was not targeted at you. You are normal. It was to people who call me nigger for sharing sources that proof my points. People here make fun of Middle East people for discussing a topic that is natural. You guys act like once you enter turkey that everyone looks black.
No dick for your face.
White in appearance? Yes. White as a genetic term is unscientific. By their classification a gypsy would be white too because he is predominantly white. Turks too. Nonsense.
The dude is continuing made in heavens legacy before he returns.Lifefuel for Made in Heaven. He'd want Turks to be white
Tbf using Turks as a basis for your argument is retarded anyways. We are talking about Moroccans here. I think it's pretty obvious that Turks, who are literally next to Europe and have territory in Europe, will overlap the most with Europeans. Not to mention that the pop consists of converted Greeks for the most part.
Unless you believe Turks and morrocans are the same.
Bruh, I've literally never heard of Greeks being treated as Gypsies
. Either it doesn't happen, because they are just white and everyone knows, or it happens and nobody cares, in which case they are also white, because only whites aren't cared about by bleeding-heart liberals.Exactly what I wanted to point out@anandkonda
. Literally the same argument can be made for Turkey getting whitened under Roman/Byzantine control as for Italy getting darkened. As much as such distinctions even make sense for the period and the coastal populations especially weren't just basically interchangeable anyway then.And yet our whiteness also for some reason gets sometimes questioned
. "Muh Asian admixture," meanwhile, whenever I point out that Scandinavians and Finns also show the same levels of Asian admixture as West/South and East Slavs, respectively, and nobody's ever accused them of not being white, the debate kinda just dies down.So, basically, your point is that Meds/Balkaners and Turks have similar genes and are only different socially?
Even discounting that that isn't entirely true, why, as I've said above, would that neccesarily be because of Meds being mixed, and not Anatolians/Turks, whose country was ruled for centuries by European powers, to the point that Greek was the majority language in most of Anatolia before the Byzantines lost it?
The genetic structure of the Turkish population reveals high levels of variation and admixture - PMC
We delineated the fine-scale genetic structure of the Turkish population by using sequencing data of 3,362 unrelated Turkish individuals from different geographical origins and demonstrated the position of Turkey in terms of human migration and ...
A study shows that Turkish people are closest to Tuscany people. I have legit studies. You guys have only hostile words.
Still closest to Europeans:
Antiracist deathnic redditors arguing over who gets to be called white and who isn’t
>currycels are white >Sandniggers are white >Ricecels are white There are only 2 races ,ying and yang,black and white :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: Currie and rice never ever look white
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Italians are mostly R1b haplogroup just like the other Western Europeans, and multiple studies of mtDNA have found minimal outside genetic influence over time:
Genetic history of Italy - Wikipedia
In the most stereotypically non-European part of Italy, the MENA admixture at maximum reaches a whopping... 10% maybe after putting multiple different ancestries together
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But edgelordcel showed me gypsy or even curry passing Greeks like thisBruh, I've literally never heard of Greeks being treated as Gypsies
Exactly what I wanted to point out
And yet our whiteness also for some reason gets sometimes questioned
So, basically, your point is that Meds/Balkaners and Turks have similar genes and are only different socially?
Even discounting that that isn't entirely true, why, as I've said above, would that neccesarily be because of Meds being mixed, and not Anatolians/Turks, whose country was ruled for centuries by European powers, to the point that Greek was the majority language in most of Anatolia before the Byzantines lost it?
Still closest to Europeans:
Antiracist deathnic redditors arguing over who gets to be called white and who isn’t
>currycels are white >Sandniggers are white >Ricecels are white There are only 2 races ,ying and yang,black and white :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: :feelskek: Currie and rice never ever look white
Italians are mostly R1b haplogroup just like the other Western Europeans, and multiple studies of mtDNA have found minimal outside genetic influence over time:
Genetic history of Italy - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
In the most stereotypically non-European part of Italy, the MENA admixture at maximum reaches a whopping... 10% maybe after putting multiple different ancestries together
I don't. The point of origin deviated much. The point is that Moroccans and Spanish have overlap. This is higher in southern Spain and north Morocco.
Dude not to mention that the Turkish dude made a thread discussing slavic ancestry in Turks. Of course a pop with literal Nordic ancestry is gonna look different from some Moroccan camel rapist. Turks are a very bad example.Exactly what I wanted to point out
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This is stupid. Slavic peoples are a homogenous population. Balkan slavs are too.And yet our whiteness also for some reason gets sometimes questioned
Not balkans. I am talking about southern Italy.
? Im not saying Italians are Turks. Im saying we have similar genes. Of course this comes from Turks having Greek origin. I make threads about this. My images above show the same. There was no interaction between ottomans and Italians. The reason we are 80% the same is because of byzantine Empire.
I don't consider anatolian Greeks to be europeans. They are Anatolian. Middle eastern. If you think they are European then you would have to admit I am too. And I'm not.
This is my dna. I don't see myself as European because my ancestors were muslims and from Middle East.
You are using outdated wikipedia articles when I have shared updated genetic studies on the Turkish population by scientists? Im sorry but I feel like I'm being played here.In the most stereotypically non-European part of Italy, the MENA admixture at maximum reaches a whopping... 10% maybe after putting multiple different ancestries together
This article shows why turkey and Italy are 80% similar.
The genetic structure of the Turkish population reveals high levels of variation and admixture - PMC
We delineated the fine-scale genetic structure of the Turkish population by using sequencing data of 3,362 unrelated Turkish individuals from different geographical origins and demonstrated the position of Turkey in terms of human migration and ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Here is the study on the Turkish population.
What does this proof? That Italians carry the blood from people not native to Italy? I have i1a haplogroup. Hitler had a African haplogroup. Haplogroups are meaningless and are 0.1% of your dna i think.
You are using a broad calculator that does not include specific populations that are confirmed to be close to Italians. You are being disingenuous in order to defend Italians. I have shared a specific distance calculating model that shows it more detailed than you.
But even so in your attempt to look cool and smart Israel is close to Italy. If you were honest about this and used southern Italy Israel would be more closer.
Im disappointed in you. Your text is just quickly looked up google articles and outdated tools. You have proven nothing.
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