Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

Welcome! This is a forum for involuntary celibates: people who lack a significant other. Are you lonely and wish you had someone in your life? You're not alone! Join our forum and talk to people just like you.

Feminists will demand that sexbots "teach consent" (but they'll fail)

genma

genma

Recruit
★★★★
Joined
Sep 27, 2020
Posts
314
Online
8d 19h 46m

Background​

To start with, here are a couple of background references for you to consider. First, a report by the Guardian titled, Rise of Sex Robots: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vN0cs_-RSs


At 13:30, the reporter interviews Kathleen Richardson, an anthropology professor and senior research fellow at Cambridge. She's also the founder of The Campaign Against Sex Robots. She wants them banned entirely. Here's an excerpt from the interview:

The object (a sexbot) starts to fill the places of other human beings – of hurt feelings, of suffering, of despair, of loneliness. And I would call that part of rape culture. The more they participate in activities that are outside of this consensual framework, they then turn themselves into objects.

Yikes sweaty! Let's unpack this.

She acknowledges that you're feeling lonely. She says that if a sexbot stops you from feeling lonely, then the sexbot has "filled the place of other human beings." In other words, you were supposed to find a woman, not a sexbot. And see, the difference between a human and a sexbot is ... the sexbot has no choice. It's just doing what it's programmed to do. It can't say "no" therefore it can't consent.

And what follows is the money quote: "that's part of rape culture - participating in activities that are outside of that consensual framework."

When you're lonely, you're supposed to find a woman and gain her consent so that she loves you and makes you not feel lonely. If you use a robot which has no choice then you're participating in rape culture (and, the insinuation, harming real women).

Okay, that's a pretty typical feminist take. I wont even bother to refute it (unless some lurker wants to watch me do it). I'll just point out that she doesn't give a shit about you or your plight. When the tables inevitably turn - when old women are lonely, someone is going to make an old man robot that just says "yes dear" and "that's so interesting" and I can fucking promise you that this feminist wont make the same argument to deny women companionship. In fact, she'll say that lonely old women is proof of patriarchy.

Regardless, this feminist has substantial political power. She absolutely will have her way. There are no political parties that are going to take your side, but they'll all jump at the chance to do the will of a feminist. And that brings me to background reference 2: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/famous-sex-robot-can-now-refuse-sex-if-shes-not-in-the-mood



This guy is attempting to placate feminists by designing the concept of "consent" into a sexbot. Here's a quote from the article:

The upgrade will allow Samantha to enter “dummy mode”, an unresponsive state, due to a variety of reasons including an overly aggressive partner. She can also enter this mode if she feels bored with her partner’s attentions.
...
This new “dummy” mode might offer an opportunity for male users to learn a thing or two about consent and respecting one’s partners

The Inevitable Clown World Solution​


The last sentence in the quote above illustrates what everyone (especially the feminist) assumes about a man who would purchase a sexbot. You need to "learn a thing or two" - the fact that women don't find you attractive is your fault (right IT?) and thus any sexbot you're allowed to have needs to train you in how consent works!

Of course, no woman is ever going to find you attractive, so it's not clear what you'll be doing with your newly taught knowledge of consent. It's not like you're going to graduate from sexbot training, get a PhD in Enthusiastic Consent, and then suddenly a woman is going to think, "you know what, I ordinarily fuck chads 24/7 but now that you have this diploma I want to date you!"

But anyway, I predict that this will be the goal/direction in clown world - they will insist that sexbots simulate consent.

Programming Sexbots to Require Consent WILL NOT WORK​


They'll fail. The feminists demanding this and the betas trying to implement it will fail. Here's why: there are only three options for simulating consent.

Option 1: Randomization​


If your sexbot just rolls 2d6 and consents on all but 12, people will very quickly work out the RNG rules and publish "guides" just like they do for literally every video game ever. That's the problem that feminists will run into. We've been playing video games our whole lives. We are very comfortable navigating systems of rules even when randomization is a component of the rules.

If my sexbot says "no" one time in 36 (as would be the case if it's rolling 2d6) and I know from the guide I just read that the cooldown time is 15 minutes, am I going to be especially bothered by that? Nope, not really.

The fact that I'm not bothered by this will enrage feminists though, because the whole point, from their perspective, is to ruin the sexbot. So they might demand a higher percentage of "no's" or a longer cooldown time. Okay, but I still know what the underlying rules are. If the sexbot says "no" 50% of the time, I will know that before I purchase it, and I can decide to mitigate that by buying two sexbots (25% chance of a "yes") or any number of other workarounds that I would do in a video game.

I win. Feminists lose.

Option 2: The Grind​


What if the sexbot only consents after you perform certain tasks. Internally, there's a "consent bar" that you have to fill up by performing quests, or whatever.

Is that a problem for me? Nope. Because again, just like with video games, people will figure out the "most effective tactic available" and they publish it and I will know, before I buy a sexbot, exactly how many fucks/hr I can get and exactly which tasks fill up the bar most efficiently.

This too will enrage feminists. They literally have memes about this already:



They know full well that real women don't work this way, and they're offended by this as a concept.

Option 3: Chad's Only​


And that brings us to the actual realistic option. A sexbot could make some kind of evaluation of you on an alpha-beta-omega scale - it could measure your height, for example - and decide "you're not chad so therefore I don't consent."

Feminists will like the sound of this option because they'll believe it'll deny incels sex, and they just irrationally hate you so that's their goal.

I would still not be terribly bothered by this option because (a) it's a huge giant black pill for the entire world. It reveals the ugly truth about women that we've long known. (b) I would still know in advance the rules that the sexbot will use to evaluate me. A huge part of the frustration of everyone here, I think you'll agree, is the fact that the real rules that real women use are so opaque - so we're surrounded by people dispensing false hope and bad advice ("just be yourself bro"). It's also frustrating that we're surrounded by bad actors making false assumptions ("have you tried taking a shower"). If nothing else, it'd be catharsis to be able to point to the code and say, "there is no amount of showers or confidence that gets a short man into consent territory - stop fucking lying!"
 
trying to ascend

trying to ascend

Youngcel KHHV
★★★★★
Joined
Aug 30, 2020
Posts
6,417
Online
192d 3h 47m
its a machine, fuck its consentiment.

These feminists are sick on the head, they protect more robots who look like women than real men, JFL
 
nasser22

nasser22

Dotpilled poopcel
-
Joined
Feb 13, 2021
Posts
604
Online
5d 8h 30m
I think AI would be more developed than womans way of thinking.

So AI needs consent, but woman dont
 
tinted_vision

tinted_vision

Recruit
★★
Joined
Sep 17, 2020
Posts
169
Online
16d 22h 11m
women know that sexbots will gradually take away their power over betas

that's why they are crying so hard about this
 
Deleted member 32502

Deleted member 32502

Self-banned
-
Joined
Jan 24, 2021
Posts
880
Online
15d 6h 49m
I don't think bots will ever take away the real thing. Fucking a robotic fleshlight is not going to replace anything. It's a cope
 
I

Indari

YAAAAAMEEEEROOOOOOO !!!!!
-
Joined
Nov 7, 2017
Posts
27,532
Online
116d 23h 44m
Deleted member 33091

Deleted member 33091

Resident IT bully
-
Joined
Feb 21, 2021
Posts
3,805
Online
15d 13h 34m
Dr. Dicklet

Dr. Dicklet

Simps are the disease....and I am the cure
★★★★
Joined
Oct 20, 2020
Posts
1,324
Online
9d 2h 9m
What a fucking joke these people are
 
D

Deleted member 21883

Self-banned
-
Joined
Oct 17, 2019
Posts
2,986
Online
61d 19h 2m
Charge the radfems with dildo rape.
 
Deleted member 31641

Deleted member 31641

Self-banned
-
Joined
Dec 13, 2020
Posts
664
Online
15d 8h 15m
Yeah thats why I buy my electronics, to refuse what they were made to do
 
proudweeb

proudweeb

seeking anime feet
★★★★★
Joined
Feb 20, 2021
Posts
50,307
Online
34d 16h 49m
Trying to "placate" feminists is a waste of time. Those bitches will never be happy no matter what.
 
Y

your personality

Transcendental
★★★★★
Joined
Jun 26, 2020
Posts
29,592
Online
153d 19h 34m
trying to ascend said:
its a machine, fuck its consentiment.

These feminists are sick on the head, they protect more robots who look like women than real men, JFL
They even get outraged on behalf of "unrealistic" drawings of women.
Dr. Dicklet said:
What a fucking joke these people are

Forum_User_2345 said:
Charge the radfems with dildo rape.
 
genma

genma

Recruit
★★★★
Joined
Sep 27, 2020
Posts
314
Online
8d 19h 46m
Forum_User_2345 said:
Charge the radfems with dildo rape.
if you bring that up, they'll say "tHAts dIFFerENT!!" and say that it's only problematic when it's a whole body.
 
Y

your personality

Transcendental
★★★★★
Joined
Jun 26, 2020
Posts
29,592
Online
153d 19h 34m
genma said:
if you bring that up, they'll say "tHAts dIFFerENT!!" and say that it's only problematic when it's a whole body.
True one whitepill is that not even radical feminists have really called for things like fleshlights to get banned. That's more the tradcucks and their concern about men "choosing" not to have families.
 
HumanTrash

HumanTrash

Major
★★
Joined
May 15, 2018
Posts
2,179
Online
14d 8h 9m
Why are these fucking feminists given power? Are all men in power cucks?
 
Deleted member 1983

Deleted member 1983

25yr NEET virgin
-
Joined
Dec 5, 2017
Posts
12,787
Online
44d 11h 45m
HumanTrash said:
Why are these fucking feminists given power? Are all men in power cucks?

most of them yes
 
The Abyss

The Abyss

Aspergerscel. Cope 'til you rope.
★★★★★
Joined
Jul 27, 2018
Posts
12,443
Online
82d 21h 10m
These cunts need a beating.
 
ThisLifeKillsMe

ThisLifeKillsMe

inCeligible
Joined
Mar 3, 2018
Posts
5,039
Online
157d 17h 2m
Humans are "programmed" by their genetics and enviroment, free will is an illusion that gets used mainly for moral faggotry or political reasons.

Deep down they know that they would loose alot of power and support.
 
Deleted member 31122

Deleted member 31122

Recessed, bald, manlet
-
Joined
Nov 20, 2020
Posts
2,333
Online
57d 21h 3m
Autismaxxed said:
I don't think bots will ever take away the real thing. Fucking a robotic fleshlight is not going to replace anything. It's a cope
 
D

Deleted member 21883

Self-banned
-
Joined
Oct 17, 2019
Posts
2,986
Online
61d 19h 2m
The tradcucks and sjws will get into bed together because they both have a hard on for prohibitionism.
 
Michinomiya Hirohit

Michinomiya Hirohit

emperor
★★★★★
Joined
Jul 3, 2019
Posts
11,512
Online
119d 16h 16m
nasser22 said:
I think AI would be more developed than womans way of thinking.

So AI needs consent, but woman dont
giga fucking baseddd
 
polar inertia

polar inertia

oldcel, mentalcel, wagecel
★★★★★
Joined
Jul 18, 2018
Posts
951
Online
11d 17h 3m
Oh no, we are going to lose the control over having sex to technology, quick lets do something about it so we keep our leverage.
 
C

Currycel25

Banned
-
Joined
Dec 23, 2020
Posts
689
Online
5d 6h 33m
Most women shouldn't be objectified because they are not worth objectifying
 
Leblid

Leblid

Chileancel, 166cm manlet
★★★★★
Joined
Jul 25, 2019
Posts
968
Online
18d 2h 6m
Deleted member 32502 said:
I don't think bots will ever take away the real thing. Fucking a robotic fleshlight is not going to replace anything. It's a cope
 
Orca

Orca

Veteran
★★★
Joined
Mar 11, 2021
Posts
1,274
Online
34d 10h 54m
Mgtows will be the first robot rapists
 
Mecoja

Mecoja

fuck society
★★★★★
Joined
Aug 28, 2020
Posts
8,860
Online
102d 9h 43m
The second you pay for it, its yours to do whatever you want. AI is miles away from any human like behaviour, people will hack it in seconds and turn them into what they want. Stupid feminists, do they ask for consent when they use a microwave or toaster? Or a dildo, why are they raping dildos?
 
Cyrrow

Cyrrow

Will simp for attractive female, very thirsty.
Joined
May 4, 2020
Posts
1,566
Online
20d 2h 15m
If the sexbot won't give me sex, I'll just rape it, it's a fucking robot.
 
Deleted member 33688

Deleted member 33688

Self-banned
-
Joined
Mar 15, 2021
Posts
234
Online
7d 7h 44m
She thinks people will say "sorry officer I forgot not to be a rapist because of my sex bot."
 
genma

genma

Recruit
★★★★
Joined
Sep 27, 2020
Posts
314
Online
8d 19h 46m
Mecoja said:
Stupid feminists, do they ask for consent when they use a microwave or toaster? Or a dildo, why are they raping dildos?
I can tell you exactly how they would reply to this. They would say two things:
(1) a dildo isn't a whole body, so it's not dehumanizing.
(2) women aren't a threat to men. So what if they're raping their dildos. Men are a threat to women so if they grow accustomed to rape by practicing on sex dolls, real women are in real danger.

I can also refute both of those arguments if anyone cares. I'm just telling you what they'll say.
 
Mecoja

Mecoja

fuck society
★★★★★
Joined
Aug 28, 2020
Posts
8,860
Online
102d 9h 43m
genma said:
I can tell you exactly how they would reply to this. They would say two things:
(1) a dildo isn't a whole body, so it's not dehumanizing.
(2) women aren't a threat to men. So what if they're raping their dildos. Men are a threat to women so if they grow accustomed to rape by practicing on sex dolls, real women are in real danger.

I can also refute both of those arguments if anyone cares. I'm just telling you what they'll say.
Yeah they always come up with something, they just want to ruin the fun because they feel threatened by sexbots.
 
-BrettyBoy-

-BrettyBoy-

Locally undesired.
★★★★★
Joined
Feb 14, 2019
Posts
13,090
Online
164d 11h 6m
God, I hate feminists.
 
LOLI BREEDING

LOLI BREEDING

when your life is not your own
★★★★★
Joined
Nov 4, 2019
Posts
6,126
Online
166d 19h 3m
takes a special kind of soy to make faggotry like this:soy: takes all remaining power he has over foids, dumps it in the trash and sets it on fire :feelskek:
genma said:
This guy is attempting to placate feminists by designing the concept of "consent" into a sexbot. Here's a quote from the article:
though maybe he's just 200IQ and he gets clickbait from jezebel tier shit to peddle his chinaware :feelskek:
 
Last edited:
Broly

Broly

feared
★★★★★
Joined
Apr 6, 2021
Posts
12,214
Online
51d 6h 36m
I hate feminists
 

Similar threads

shape1
shape2
shape3
shape4
shape7
shape8
Top