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Every extreme nationalist movement has the same script

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It's interesting how every 'extreme' nationalist movement, has the same narrative arc script, but localized to their context.

For this thread I will use Salafism, Neo Nazism, and Han Ultranationalism as comparison.

The Glorious Past:

Salafism: Wants to follow idealized version of how Prophet Muhammad and his companions lived.
Neo-Nazism: Glorifies the past of Roman Empire or even British empire days.
Han Ultranationalism: Glories 5000 years of history.

The Fall:

Salafism: Says the west is constantly humiliating them, that their people are being degenerated by traitors (innovation of Islam) and western values.
Neo-Nazism: Says racemixing, foreigners, and liberal values are degenerating the whites (the west has fallen!)
Han Ultranationalism: Says the nation was humiliated by world's great powers

The Struggle:


Salafism: Says there must be continuous Jihad (struggle) until the world is Islamic.
Neo-Nazism: Says everyone must kampf (struggle) to build the ethnostate.
Han Ultranationalism: Says everyone must Dòuzhēng (struggle) to strengthen the state and the nation.

The Rejuvenation:

Salafism: Says global utopia will return to the Prophet days
Neo-Nazism: Says there will be superpower white ethnostate.
Han Ultranationalism: Says that it will return to being the center of the world again; ultranationalists love the official slogan Great Rejuvenation Of The Chinese Nation.

Reactionary Modernism (old values, new tech, hybrid aesthetic):

Salafism: Mohammad Atta studied modern architecture engineering so he can build traditional Islamic architecture with modern methodology and metallurgy.
Neo-Nazism: Fantasizes about RETVRN to traditions, to working in the farms, with advanced farming equipment and futuristic sky cities.
Han Ultranationalism: Perhaps the only one realized; they glorify the skylines with Feng Shui holes drilled in, robots with traditional clothings dancing on national TV, etc.
 
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They are all copes for sub-chads
 
It's interesting how every 'extreme' nationalist movement, has the same narrative arc script, but localized to their context.

For this thread I will use Salafism, Neo Nazism, and Han Ultranationalism as comparison.

The Glorious Past:

Salafism: Wants to follow idealized version of how Prophet Muhammad and his companions lived.
Neo-Nazism: Glorifies the past of Roman Empire or even British empire days.
Han Ultranationalism: Glories 5000 years of history.

The Fall:

Salafism: Says the west is constantly humiliating them, that their people are being degenerated by traitors (innovation of Islam) and western values.
Neo-Nazism: Says racemixing, foreigners, and liberal values are degenerating the whites (the west has fallen!)
Han Ultranationalism: Says the nation was humiliated by world's great powers

The Struggle:


Salafism: Says there must be continuous Jihad (struggle) until the world is Islamic.
Neo-Nazism: Says everyone must kampf (struggle) to build the ethnostate.
Han Ultranationalism: Says everyone must Dòuzhēng (struggle) to strengthen the state and the nation.

The Rejuvenation:

Salafism: Says global utopia will return to the Prophet days
Neo-Nazism: Says there will be superpower white ethnostate.
Han Ultranationalism: Says that it will return to being the center of the world again; ultranationalists love the official slogan Great Rejuvenation Of The Chinese Nation.

Reactionary Modernism (old values, new tech, hybrid aesthetic):

Salafism: Mohammad Atta studied modern architecture engineering so he can build traditional Islamic architecture with modern methodology and metallurgy.
Neo-Nazism: Fantasizes about RETVRN to traditions, to working in the farms, with advanced farming equipment and futuristic sky cities.
Han Ultranationalism: Perhaps the only one realized; they glorify the skylines with Feng Shui holes drilled in, robots with traditional clothings dancing on national TV, etc.
basically, you can condense this even further by saying that all ultra nationalist movements glorify a past that they have no idea of.
 
Perhaps there is truth in what they say. I don't think humanity was as bad as it currently is now. Certainly we wouldn't have been incels in the far past and would have lived a far better life than now ("but muh tech!!!!").
 

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