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I know that feeling.TBH everyone is telling me these absurdly low prices yet I can't find a whore for below 200€ anywhere.
I know that feeling.TBH everyone is telling me these absurdly low prices yet I can't find a whore for below 200€ anywhere.
Yes. In fact.If what I stated did happen would you agree that she's still a virgin, yes or no?
Of course, I wouldn't for many reasons. And if she broke all her holes only by dildos, I wouldn't either.At least you are sticking to your retardation I guess, but you have to see how stupid you sound, you would never marry a "virgin" bride who was this "kind of virgin"
I hate the idea of condom sex.Cope. Wearing rubber is not the same as rawdog.
The reason is she really isn't a virgin, you are just being stubborn that's all lolOf course, I wouldn't for many reasons.
Simple question, were they physically attracted to eachother or disgusted be eachothers looks?and yes I have seen people who loved each other for who they are
Well. Okay. You got me.A woman can't be both a virgin and experienced at anal sex and blow jobs
1. Talking to women (co-workers) for example no longer feels awkward, talking to women period becomes easierI just don't get what would change after fucking a prostitute as an incel. Why would he stop being a virgin after that?
This, I don't think people understand how much of a weight is lifted, you basically become a completely different person. Talking to people comes naturally, you aren't afraid to be caught up in certain conversations
You know literally just last week I was amongst a group of normies and I realized I was trapped all to late (if I had left then it would have made be look like a loser) and they were going around asking what you would consider "good sex", everybody was detailed and specific, and talking about things that you would not know if you had never had sex, because it would never dawn upon you that things like that happen
I mentioned getting a leg cramp, etc, and all the guys were like "yeah yeah, that shit is funny, you never expect it"
You are literally holding yourself back by refusing to pay for sex to lose your virginity, you are keeping yourself mentally a child, and you will never be able to interact with normies and fool them into thinking you are "one of them"
I was only able to say what I said, because I experienced it, its not something you would think up, especially when your only frame of reference for sex is porn. Who would think that leg cramps were a common problem if you've never had sex, that shit doesn't happen in porn lol.
What? You have not ejaculated for 4 almost months in the hope of lasting longer!? It has the opposite effect. No masturbation is bad for premature ejaculation. You should masturbate and take SSRI pills, preferably dapoxetine, if you want to last longer. How long would you have been allowed to have intercourse if able to? Price and time of your meeting?
I think it depends. It's individual.1. Talking to women (co-workers) for example no longer feels awkward, talking to women period becomes easier
Now you still realize no woman like you. But you get addicted to sex. What's the good in that?2. The psychological effect of "being a virgin" goes away and obsess less about sex, and you think about women less
How come? I hate women all the time. And after jerking off several times, I feel nothing for them.3. You no longer over value women and pussy, making you less likely to do simp shit
But you still an ugly incel and everybody still makes fun of you. And people still don't respect you. You're just a person who can get sex only by paying money.4. You stop being ego obsessed and start focusing on actually enjoying life, meaning you can enjoy having more sex
Yeah. You need more money to have more sex.5. You start seeing the value in money rather than obsessing over the value of women, so you start pursuing wealth based goals rather than women based goals (looksmaxxing)
I'm not sure. I think it depends on how blackpilled you were before having sex with a prostitute for the first time.Your entire perspective on life changes, and just having the weight of virginhood on your back removed makes it worth it
Okay. I agree that could help you to make people believe that you're a normie and not an incel.Think about every conversation that happened around normies that veered off into sex, and how uncomfortable you felt because you knew you didn't know what to say and everyone would figure out you are a virgin, just fucking a whore once renders those scenarios neutral, because you have some awareness of sex and what it entails, you become "believable"
Okay, I got you. IDK, maybe fucking whores could help a person who doesn't look like a true incel and isn't blackpilled as fuck. But in my case, I'd feel as shitty as I do now. And I've read the stories written by people who had sex with prostitutes. Many of them still felt like shit.In fact I talked about this before, I was in such a situation, and I only knew what to talk about because I fucked a whore, it was literally all the co-workers sitting in a circle when we had free time, now imagine if I had just looked around awkwardly and stayed quiet or got up to walk away, my work life would have gone to shit:
5 minutes first time ??? More like 5 seconds.I really want to see an escort ASAP but I feel like I'll just cum in 5 mins. I must train myself first.
60 USD for an hour!!!!!!!!!!! Can you PM the country and place, please!? These prices in Israel, Spain, Tenshi's place, your places are killing me. In Netherlands, Belgium and Germany also you can have intercourse with 30-50 euros!!! And they have higher GDP per capita even than in my place and lower taxation. (taxes do not contribute to the prices here, because escorts rarely report their income, unlike in Germany etc. where sex workers pay taxes and prices are still much lower)My nofap streak is almost 4 months long, but I had several escortcelling experience in the meantime, so I did ejaculate.
In my cooming days, most of my masturbation sessions lasted 1-2 minutes or even less, this is why I thought that my mind got used to premature ejaculation. I hoped that nofap would help me with that. I can take blowjobs much longer though, it's only the PIV that gets me orgasm almost instantly.
Thanks for the advice on the medicine.
It happened yesterday and I paid 60 USD for an hour.
I can't last even 3 minutes in masturbation (sex is reportedly like 1 minute if one lasts in masturbation 5 minutes) if I take SSRI pills just to last longer. My baseline is under 30 seconds in masturbation without meds to last longer.I really want to see an escort ASAP but I feel like I'll just cum in 5 mins.
Can you PM the place where I can buy "stacy" for an hour with 50 USD? Here it costs 250 euros for an hour, that is over 300 USD. And it's the starting price, some are 400 euros for an hour (she was 40 according to the ad, in reality more like 50). They are almost all at least about 30 years old, most are about 40 and some lie their age in their ads. Most are even overweight, especially all Finnish escorts are overweight.50 bucks is pretty good in a first world country, that's stacy tier price here for an hour
Where do you live OP ? Where I live you can't get a decent experience under 1k$50 is quite cheap indeed
Dude, if you are masturbating you are already addicted to sex (well orgasms), I don't think you know what the word "addict" means, I had sex with a whore once, haven't done it in years, if I was addicted to specifically sex, I'd be spending all of my money to go back to that brothelBut you get addicted to sex. What's the good in that?
JFL, a lot of you guys who talk all this edgy I hate women shit would go full simp mode if a woman gave you the idea that you had a chance, and you don't realize that yet because you've never been tempted, because nothing like that has happened, yet, but you don't know if it will or wontHow come? I hate women all the time. And after jerking off several times, I feel nothing for them.
I feel nothing for them
PICK ONEHaving sex for money doesn't count anyways. You're still a virgin in fact.
YesBut you still an ugly incel and everybody still makes fun of you. And people still don't respect you. You're just a person who can get sex only by paying money.
That's because they have your mindset, they are egoists, they paid for sex for the wrong intentions, expecting some magical after effect of "feeling like Chad"And I've read the stories written by people who had sex with prostitutes. Many of them still felt like shit.
I'm addicted to porn to some degree, I think. Although I remember using my imagination as a kid.if you are masturbating you are already addicted to sex (well orgasms)
That's your personal experience. But I know there are guys who can't stop from having sex with prostitutes. They say that masturbation doesn't help them anymore. They wanna fuck prostitutes instead.I had sex with a whore once, haven't done it in years, if I was addicted to specifically sex, I'd be spending all of my money to go back to that brothel
I read what people who did that thought about that. In my opinion, sex isn't only about physical feelings. But you can't get something else from prostitutes. Am I wrong?Also do you find it kind of funny that you, someone who has never paid for sex, is telling me, someone who has, what effect paying for sex will have on someone, this is peak ignorance, knowing nothing about something and telling someone who knows what is going to happen to them
Sometimes coping can help, btw. Although I don't try to rationalize it.It just seems like you are making shit up in your head to rationalize your mindset
But how do you know what would happen in this case? Simping is bullshit, btw. If a woman really wants someone, it won't make a difference how he will act.JFL, a lot of you guys who talk all this edgy I hate women shit would go full simp mode if a woman gave you the idea that you had a chance, and you don't realize that yet because you've never been tempted, because nothing like that has happened, yet, but you don't know if it will or wont
Well. You compare raping and having sex for money. And I think they're slightly different. The guys you're talking about were physically strong and healthy enough to survive in such difficult times. Something tells me they weren't incels at all. I don't think they had small jaws with recessed chins and stuff like that. So, they just enjoyed raping. And here's another thing, they did that for free. By the way, the most interesting part about many modern rapists is, they would've gotten sex for free. Of course, not all of them, but anyway. For an incel, raping could become some kind of revenge (in Minecraft). That's not like having sex with a woman wanting you, but that's not like paying for sex either.A group of men in the past could have raided multiple villages, taken over towns and established themselves as rulers, and because they raped women rather than "wooed" them, in your book they'd still be "loser virgins", like think about how retarded that is, you've given women so much power in your mindset and you don't even realize it, women are literally the arbiters of manhood in your book, if you gain access to a woman's body through anything outside of her explicit consent and desire "it doesn't count"
Okay. Say, if one bought a degree, would it count?If you cared nothing about women, you would never have such a ridiculous belief that you can have sex 50+ times, but if you paid for it you are still a virgin, you wouldn't apply that rule to anything else because of how ridiculous it is
Paying for sex is bullshit. It would always remind me of how incel I am. It wouldn't make my life better. I'd rather buy a sex doll with really tiny holes and fuck it. And I'd like to know what you think about fucking sex dolls. What's the difference between them and prostitutes in general? And do you support betabuxxing? I've heard it could be cheaper in comparison to prostitutes. I mean I'm just asking.You really just sound childish, you can't change any of the things you just listed, so your logic is to just starve yourself of pleasure your entire life because of things you can't change?, just double down on suffering because "my life is shit anyways"?
I have no idea what it has to do with my ego and why you think it's huge. I thought only Chads didn't give a fuck about what people thought of them.Lastly, you need to get over yourself, its clear that you have an ironically huge ego if you care this much about what people think of you, you'd think that an incel would be a lot less concerned with the judgements of others at this point
No. I mean people treat incels like shit in general. Not only because of that.Life is too short to be worrying about what other people think, especially to this extent
So, what's the point in paying for sex then? Isn't that better to just jerk off to porn? It's free. You can't get STD's and shit.That's because they have your mindset, they are egoists, they paid for sex for the wrong intentions, expecting some magical after effect of "feeling like Chad"
But sex without feelings is a kind of masturbation. You just use a woman instead of your hands.I paid for sex because I wanted to experience sex, and I'll pay for sex again because I want to enjoy having sex, that's it, if you are doing it for any other reason you are an emotional illogical idiot, sex is sex, you should be paying for sex to have sex, that's all that it is about
I'm not following you. If I want a girl who wants and loves me, then I have women pedestalized in my mind, right? And when you pay for what other guys can get for free, you don't, right? I.e. you don't admit they take your money from you? For what? Why can't you just get it for free like "a group of men in the past"?Again, you guys treat sex like something special because YOU REVERE WOMEN, you don't even realize it, but you have women pedestalized in your mind, that's why sex is something "special" or "taboo" to you, and women are the gate keepers of whether or not "ACTUAL SEX" took place
I can watch porn and then have an orgasm. I can't watch food on TV and then feel full.When you ACTUALLY stop valuing women and think nothing of them, then paying for sex won't be such a big issue for you, because it will be like paying for fast food
Coz you don't know how to fuck if you never fucked youngcel.Yes. In fact.
Of course, I wouldn't for many reasons. And if she broke all her holes only by dildos, I wouldn't either.
I'm trying to say male virginity is a purely relative thing. Don't you think so? Like, if I've been jerking off for many years, why am I still a virgin? I've even came so many times. From your point of view, what's the difference between jerking off to porn and having sex with a woman who doesn't want you?
Losing your virginity isn't a "certification", its an act, like eating food, by this statement alone you've shown how much you overvalue women, you are basically saying that women have to "certify your manhood", this is peak blue pillOkay. Say, if one bought a degree, would it count?
When does one ever forget?Paying for sex is bullshit. It would always remind me of how incel I am
I like how paying $30 to $50 to fuck an actual woman is not worth it, but you'll spend thousands for a cold as fuck doll that you will have to clean your cum out of yourself, sound logic there mate JFLIt wouldn't make my life better. I'd rather buy a sex doll with really tiny holes and fuck it.
You seriously asking whats the difference between a doll and a living breathing woman?, I'm not wasting my time to answer that lolAnd I'd like to know what you think about fucking sex dolls. What's the difference between them and prostitutes in general? And do you support betabuxxing?
How the hell could being with a woman be cheaper than "renting" a womanI've heard it could be cheaper in comparison to prostitutes
This is like asking what's the point of buying pizza when you can just eat grilled cheese sandwichSo, what's the point in paying for sex then? Isn't that better to just jerk off to porn? It's free. You can't get STD's and shit.
Sex has nothing to do with feelings smh, not even women say this kind of cringey shit anymore, you literally sound like a simp, and guys like you will go around calling yourself black pilled, this shit is patheticBut sex without feelings is a kind of masturbation. You just use a woman instead of your hands.
No, what shows that you have pedestalized women in your mind, is that you are 100% unwilling to pursue any alternative to your current desires. For you its "female validation or nothing", that means you have woman ranked even higher than the value you place on your own sexual satisfactionIf I want a girl who wants and loves me, then I have women pedestalized in my mind, right?
And when you pay for what other guys can get for free, you don't, right?
Your analogy is shitI can watch porn and then have an orgasm. I can't watch food on TV and then feel full.
IDK dude, I guess the only option is to kill yourself, its not as if you can just come to terms with reality and start thinking like an adult, pursue what options are available.............. that's just impossible right? JFLI feel bad because I'm an incel. To stop feeling that, I need to stop being an incel which is impossible.
@BlkPillPres
Escortcels will escortmaxx when they're ready.
It's one of the hardest but best copes.
It is something to be discovered and lived.
No point debating highinhibcels and youngcels.
I agree. Thanks for your posts. It cleared my head of all the egotistical nonsense I read here. Bookmarked this thread. Will read your posts once every week to keep myself in checkIf I had taken that approach this thread ironically wouldn't even had existed for you to say that
These things have to be debated and the illogical mindset of many incels has to be ridiculed so that is doesn't become the dominant mindset
I won't let their views become the norm, that will make this forum into a den of idiots
You let some people control the narrative and inceldom will be about LDAR, tulpas, peeing in bottles, fucking sex dolls, female worship, and doing nothing with your life (waiting for your parents to die so you can go from "muh NEET" to homeless). That's the kind of retardation we have to be against
Young incels are coming in, and they will be influenced by whatever is the dominant culture here
There has to be a clear distinction between what makes sense and what doesn't
Based.If I had taken that approach this thread ironically wouldn't even had existed for you to say that
These things have to be debated and the illogical mindset of many incels has to be ridiculed so that is doesn't become the dominant mindset
I won't let their views become the norm, that will make this forum into a den of idiots
You let some people control the narrative and inceldom will be about LDAR, tulpas, peeing in bottles, fucking sex dolls, female worship, and doing nothing with your life (waiting for your parents to die so you can go from "muh NEET" to homeless). That's the kind of retardation we have to be against
Young incels are coming in, and they will be influenced by whatever is the dominant culture here
There has to be a clear distinction between what makes sense and what doesn't
ur welcome niggr@BlkPillPres You were right you cunt, it is fucking amazing.
It was awkward as hell at first since I never even kissed a girl until today but you get the hang of it pretty quickly and goddamn it escorts are the solution!
For the small sum of 50$ (Quite cheap in kikeland) I finally got to experience what I otherwise wouldnt have probably in the next 10+ years at best!
Unless you are one of those guys that look for love and validation from foids, escorts are the solution.
Am I still an incel? Yes
Am I still ugly? Yes
But (and everyone pays who is not chad in one way or another) I got the experience sexual intercourse with a damn hot woman and will now not be bothered by being a virgin and not knowing what tits and ass feel like
Just escortcel max bros, it will make you feel much better
Governments should give us free prostitutes
Yeap. And the thing is, you can't just buy that. That's a problem. Losing one's virginity is not a physical object.Losing your virginity isn't a "certification", its an act
They certify that to some degree as well as men certify one's womanhood. These things are mutual. I can't get what it has to do with the bluepill, to be honest.you are basically saying that women have to "certify your manhood", this is peak blue pill
When one don't pay for sex, for example.When does one ever forget?
How come is that my pleasure? Who told you that? I try not to think about my inceldom all the time. But the fact I pay women for sex would always remind me about that. A man who can get sex only by paying for it looks pathetic anyways.so you are going to deny yourself pleasure because the means of accessing it reminds you of what you are, so aren't you aware of what you are right now as we speak without sexual satisfaction?.............
It actually depends. If you have sex with a woman who wants and loves you, then it does cause that.having sex doesn't cause some eureka moment
I'm not saying buying a sex doll is something good. But it's still better than paying for sex since you can do what you want with it. And you can heat her. There's no limits at all.I like how paying $30 to $50 to fuck an actual woman is not worth it, but you'll spend thousands for a cold as fuck doll that you will have to clean your cum out of yourself, sound logic there mate JFL
But why don't you wanna answer this question? They both don't show an interest in you, but with one difference: a sex doll is fucked only by her owner, you can't get STD's from her, she don't show you her disgust. And she's forever yours. Oh, and I forgot to mention, that her holes are incomparably tight.You seriously asking whats the difference between a doll and a living breathing woman?, I'm not wasting my time to answer that lol
As a betabux, you can spend several nights a week with a young girl.How the hell could being with a woman be cheaper than "renting" a woman
I think it depends.How often do you think couples have sex these days
You're always able to replace her with another one.(as a man you start to get "diminishing returns" when it comes to sex in relationships as time goes on, which to me makes them a waste of time and money)
Well. Of course, it depends on your area.So how the hell could that be cheaper than paying to fuck a whore, which is like $50 a week depending on where you live (if you want to fuck at least once a week)
Having a wife sucks, btw. A betabux should find poor young girls and use them, then drop them by the moment they become unprofitable. Yeah. As a successful betabuxer, you have to be an unpleasant person.Its simple math really, having a woman is like having a very high utility bill, its like paying rent, it could never be cheaper to have a GF or wife, than to pay for sex
Well. My dick isn't thick. But by using my hands, I can squeeze it as strongly as I want which can't be said about used pussies. The hand will always be better in this aspect unless you've got a very thick cock or find a girl with an unbelievable tight pussy.I don't know how the fuck you think your hand is going to feel as good as a vagina, you must have some amazing hands bro lol
Yeah, maybe that's good. But the main thing is the stimulation of one's cock anyways.Not to mention the other parts of sex that are amazing, IDK like actually holding some ass in your hand, squeezing tits, etc, porn can't even come close
If we're talking about having sex for free, then yes.Its the difference between watching someone else eat your favorite food while you scarf down a cheese sandwich, and you eating that food yourself, that's the best analogy to convey the difference between porn and sex
Wait. How come does sex have nothing to do with feelings? Without feelings, you can't get that for free. If a women feel nothing for you, then you can't get laid with her at all.Sex has nothing to do with feelings smh
They actually are. You may not want to marry her, but if you really feel nothing to her, you can't get an erection. Pure love is different, of course. Although it usually includes having sex too.feelings would be required to be erect
Sex is a natural thing. But if you don't love the body of your partner, there's nothing gonna happen between you. And love is a feeling.There's a reason why prostitution is called the "oldest profession in the world", and that's because sex has never been and will never be about feelings, humans just created these cultural norms to romanticize an act considered to be "vulgar" and "crude", to make the act of sex feel more "dignified"
Paying for sex doesn't seem to be a really good alternative, to be honest. It's more like an act of humiliation. I'm not going to spend my money for nothing as well as for making women richer.is that you are 100% unwilling to pursue any alternative to your current desires
Why? I didn't get that. I can get even better physical feelings by masturbation. But I have no emotional connection while doing that. And that's a problem. You can't lie to yourself.that means you have woman ranked even higher than the value you place on your own sexual satisfaction
I can be completely pleasured only by a woman who wants and loves me. That's all.How is that not the highest form of worship, to deny yourself pleasure unless its sanctioned by a woman, because without a woman's say so "its not worth it"
Well. By "watching porn", I meant "watching porn while masturbating to it".You don't just watch the porn and get an orgasm, you jerk off (imitate sex), if you just watched alone nothing would happen, just like you won't get full if you just watch food on TV
And that doesn't work at all. You can't feel full after touching your stomach. But you can have an orgasm after touching your cock.If you are watching food on TV you usually eat something to imitate eating that food, and yes, people do this, its a coping thing
I've thought about that. I think that's one of the good options.I guess the only option is to kill yourself
There are not so many options at all. Besides, ending that shitty life isn't so bad.what options are available
I can get even better physical feelings by masturbation
Of course, I'm not. I know my cock better than anybody else.Oh yeah, sure bud, you definitely aren't delusional