Serious ER was a truecel. PROOF

[Edmund_Kemper]

After @BenBerger made a thread that ER isn’t an incel or is just a normie. Let me say this. He is a truecel. I wouldn’t even call him a locationcel. He was a truecel. People say he only wanted blonde stacys, but the problem is, that can’t make him a volcel because even if he wanted 1/10 landwhales they’d still reject him. He would be rejected by all foids, not just stacys. Therefore he can’t be volcel. Also, there’s no evidence that he would’ve rejected a brunette becky or something. Also, having a BMW and being rich doesn’t help you statusmaxx and ascend if you’re sub5. ER was definitely sub5. And he did think he could ascend with a stacy and he did think he could ascend by winning the lottery so he wasn’t blackpilled but the issue is that the blackpill theory wasn’t around back then. The internet didn’t talk about the blackpill back then so you can’t expect him to be blackpilled

yes he did kill two or three ricecels but he did it because he was planning on luring people into his apartment so he could torture and kill them, and he couldn’t do it with his roommates interfering. It wasn’t because he hated his roommates. He did kill a couple of beckys and a couple of normies. He also tried to kill some sorority stacies but it backfired. But he did try. Also he injured a stacylite named Megan Carloto. Here’s Megan:

also, ER was definitely sub5 I’d say even sub4. He was UNATTRACTIVE.

He had fish lips. His lower lip was much bigger than his upper lip.

He has a tiny recessed chin although jawline is okay and he does have high strong cheekbones

He had a tiny ass thin nose

he was scrawny as fuck and extremely skinny and had zero muscles

he was babyfaced. He was 22 but looked 15. I’ve even seen 14 year old boys who look older than him. Remember that there is little to no physical difference between teen girls and women in their early 20s but there is some physical difference between teen guys and guys in their early 20s. Girls stop looking like teenagers in their late 20s/early 30s but for boys they stop looking like teens in their early 20s. ER looked way younger than his age and had a feminine baby face and looked like he couldn’t grow a single facial hair. Being babyfaced and neotenous is good as a woman but a death sentence if you’re male. Here’s ER at 22:

this is what a typical 22 year old guy really looked like:

notice how much older he looks. Now here’s ER on his 18th birthday:

now here’s what a typical 17 year old looks like:

see? ER looked younger than his age even when he just turned 18. And according to his manifesto, he looked like a 10 year old at 14 and he started puberty very late. And studies show that men who start puberty late are more likely to be sexually inexperienced in adulthood.

While men are attracted to youth and neoteny, women aren’t. Women tend to stay attracted to their own age as they get older while men stay attracted to young women, according to okcupid data. If you are babyfaced, it is a death sentence. If ER was 15 with that appearance he would be maybe a 5.5/10 but looking younger than his age made him a 3/10. Also he had autism which is a death sentence if you’re sub8. Anyone who thinks he’s normie is copemaxxing

 

[RemoveNormalfags]

Definitely incel due to his height and face, but I personally wouldn't call him truecel.
He was also pretty much looksmaxxed in his latest videos, but it didn't really help.
Seamaxxing could have worked though.

 

[Cowcel]

He was, he also was manlet and had the frame of child.

Brutal babyfacepill in the end

 

[wereqryan]

High IQ. I've grown tired of having to repeat the same thing again and again. ER was a total truecel and was treated as such. The treatment you receive is the best barometer of your PSL and SMV. ER, in spite of his riches, couldn't compensate for his immense deficit in looks.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Definitely incel due to his height and face, but I personally wouldn't call him truecel.
He was also pretty much looksmaxxed in his latest videos, but it didn't really help.
Seamaxxing could have worked though.
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I’d say seamaxxing still wouldn’t help.

He was, he also was manlet and had the frame of child.

Brutal babyfacepill in the end

@Bangkok or bust

High IQ. I've grown tired of having to repeat the same thing again and again. ER was a total truecel and was treated as such. The treatment you receive is the best barometer of your PSL and SMV. ER, in spite of his riches, couldn't compensate for his immense deficit in looks.

people don’t seem to pay attention to the babyfacepill

 

[UKhapacel]

I’d say seamaxxing still wouldn’t help.

@Bangkok or bust

people don’t seem to pay attention to the babyfacepill

never began for pigfaced hapas

 

[wereqryan]

people don’t seem to pay attention to the babyfacepill

His face wasn't just baby faced. It was disproportioned. His chin was small and lacked vertical and horizontal projection. In comparison his lips were thick giving him a prognathic ape mouth look which is common among Asians and more pronounced in Blacks. He was also a framelet, manlet. His Asian genes destroyed him. Race mixing should be banned.

 

[muharremabi]

He is incel not truecel. Elliot is 4/10.

 

[wereqryan]

He is incel not truecel. Elliot is 4/10.

3/10 at most.

 

[epillepsy]

I didn't even know this was up for debate anymore.

 

[GoffSystemQB]

If I had his face I wouldn't be incel tbh. I already have his height. Being neotenous and babyfaced hurts a lot for sure, but it is not a total killer.

Let me give you this example.

stacey2109 (u/stacey2109) - Reddit

u/stacey2109: Hello world. I am a 20 year-old science nerd with Asperger’s syndrome. I'm a college student and seeking some intelligent/like-minded …

www.reddit.com

This is the chick who commented "Omg tell him to message me. I want a cute faced boy like him" or something when knajjd picture was posted on a different subreddit. Going through you can see that she rates neotenous men highly. She gave one guy who was fully androgynous a super high rating. You can also notice how shallow and superficial she is (autistic girls with alt preferences are no different in their superficiality).

I'm not even going to go to the fact that many of the anime watching autists even prefer Asian guys since that's too much for this board to handle.

I've interacted with many of them to understand I do not even live up to the standards and preferences of my "female counterparts."

That's ignoring the fact that ER doesn't have it super bad neotenous wise. There was literally a 25 year old or something on /pol/ who posted his pics and looked 12. And yes some girls do save pictures of guys like that instantaneously.

There's also the fact that of him being in a very good looking area, dealing with the repercussions of his childhood bullying, and the fact that he battled severe mental illness.

Furthermore, he had tons of looksmaxxing opportunities. There are so many Asian guys worse looking than him who successfully kpopmaxxed.

I'm willing to say all things considered he is an incel (although the never approaching, crippling mental illness, and terrible location isn't just a coincidence); however, he is not a "truecel."

 

[Mainländer]

If I had his face I wouldn't be incel tbh. I already have his height. Being neotenous and babyfaced hurts a lot for sure, but it is not a total killer.

Let me give you this example.

stacey2109 (u/stacey2109) - Reddit

u/stacey2109: Hello world. I am a 20 year-old science nerd with Asperger’s syndrome. I'm a college student and seeking some intelligent/like-minded …

www.reddit.com

This is the chick who commented "Omg tell him to message me. I want a cute faced boy like him" or something when knajjd picture was posted on a different subreddit. Going through you can see that she rates neotenous men highly. She gave one guy who was fully androgynous a super high rating. You can also notice how shallow and superficial she is (autistic girls with alt preferences are no different in their superficiality).

I'm not even going to go to the fact that many of the anime watching autists even prefer Asian guys since that's too much for this board to handle.

I've interacted with many of them to understand I do not even live up to the standards and preferences of my "female counterparts."

That's ignoring the fact that ER doesn't have it super bad neotenous wise. There was literally a 25 year old or something on /pol/ who posted his pics and looked 12. And yes some girls do save pictures of guys like that instantaneously.

There's also the fact that of him being in a very good looking area, dealing with the repercussions of his childhood bullying, and the fact that he battled severe mental illness.

Furthermore, he had tons of looksmaxxing opportunities. There are so many Asian guys worse looking than him who successfully kpopmaxxed.

I'm willing to say all things considered he is an incel (although the never approaching, crippling mental illness, and terrible location isn't just a coincidence); however, he is not a "truecel."

High IQ. Looking as a little boy is way better than being an ugly ogre. There's a huge niche for pretty neotenous boys. Just look at K-Pop and shit like that.

 

[SupremeG]

He was more of a Mentalcel imo. Looks wise, he mogs a lot of Asian guys. See some of his victims.

ER looked clearly better than any of the 3. What really led to his Inceldom was his Aspergers and social inhibitions.

 

[muharremabi]

3/10 at most.

2/10 is nearly deformed. Don't exaggerate shit.

 

[Michinomiya Hirohit]

No mogs me from here to the death star

 

[wereqryan]

2/10 is nearly deformed. Don't exaggerate shit.

That's why I scored him at 3/10 and not 2/10.

 

[muharremabi]

That's why I scored him at 3/10 and not 2/10.

You said 3/10 at best so i thought you were implying that rating him 2/10 is normal.

 

[wereqryan]

You said 3/10 at best so i thought you were implying that rating him 2/10 is normal.

2.5/10 tbh. Ok I think 3 is decent, but no more than that.

 

[Diocel]

If I had his face I wouldn't be incel tbh. I already have his height. Being neotenous and babyfaced hurts a lot for sure, but it is not a total killer.

Let me give you this example.

stacey2109 (u/stacey2109) - Reddit

u/stacey2109: Hello world. I am a 20 year-old science nerd with Asperger’s syndrome. I'm a college student and seeking some intelligent/like-minded …

www.reddit.com

This is the chick who commented "Omg tell him to message me. I want a cute faced boy like him" or something when knajjd picture was posted on a different subreddit. Going through you can see that she rates neotenous men highly. She gave one guy who was fully androgynous a super high rating. You can also notice how shallow and superficial she is (autistic girls with alt preferences are no different in their superficiality).

I'm not even going to go to the fact that many of the anime watching autists even prefer Asian guys since that's too much for this board to handle.

I've interacted with many of them to understand I do not even live up to the standards and preferences of my "female counterparts."

That's ignoring the fact that ER doesn't have it super bad neotenous wise. There was literally a 25 year old or something on /pol/ who posted his pics and looked 12. And yes some girls do save pictures of guys like that instantaneously.

There's also the fact that of him being in a very good looking area, dealing with the repercussions of his childhood bullying, and the fact that he battled severe mental illness.

Furthermore, he had tons of looksmaxxing opportunities. There are so many Asian guys worse looking than him who successfully kpopmaxxed.

I'm willing to say all things considered he is an incel (although the never approaching, crippling mental illness, and terrible location isn't just a coincidence); however, he is not a "truecel."

And he was high status too.

 

[JosefMengelecel]

The only reason why people call him a fakecel was because he was rich. He was still an incel. I am not sure about truecel but he would definitely be on here if he was alive.

 

[Lonelycel]

He got ostracized due to his location too, being a hapa in an area full of white chads and stacey's

 

[Deleted member 25707]

this is what a typical 22 year old guy really looked like:

now here’s what a typical 17 year old looks like:

So Upper tier normies and Chadlites are average to you now? GTFO. You can't be a Sub4 if you think those guys are your typical (codeword for average) looking guys. Seriously, you have to be trolling right now.

@GoffSystemQB at this point I'm fairly certain that OP is just a girl trolling the heck out of us here.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

The only reason why people call him a fakecel was because he was rich. He was still an incel. I am not sure about truecel but he would definitely be on here if he was alive.

"muh he had a BMW"

he lived in a super rich area, that meant nothing

 

[Uglymuggly]

After @BenBerger made a thread that ER isn’t an incel or is just a normie. Let me say this. He is a truecel. I wouldn’t even call him a locationcel. He was a truecel. People say he only wanted blonde stacys, but the problem is, that can’t make him a volcel because even if he wanted 1/10 landwhales they’d still reject him. He would be rejected by all foids, not just stacys. Therefore he can’t be volcel. Also, there’s no evidence that he would’ve rejected a brunette becky or something. Also, having a BMW and being rich doesn’t help you statusmaxx and ascend if you’re sub5. ER was definitely sub5. And he did think he could ascend with a stacy and he did think he could ascend by winning the lottery so he wasn’t blackpilled but the issue is that the blackpill theory wasn’t around back then. The internet didn’t talk about the blackpill back then so you can’t expect him to be blackpilled

yes he did kill two or three ricecels but he did it because he was planning on luring people into his apartment so he could torture and kill them, and he couldn’t do it with his roommates interfering. It wasn’t because he hated his roommates. He did kill a couple of beckys and a couple of normies. He also tried to kill some sorority stacies but it backfired. But he did try. Also he injured a stacylite named Megan Carloto. Here’s Megan:

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also, ER was definitely sub5 I’d say even sub4. He was UNATTRACTIVE.

He had fish lips. His lower lip was much bigger than his upper lip.

He has a tiny recessed chin although jawline is okay and he does have high strong cheekbones

He had a tiny ass thin nose

he was scrawny as fuck and extremely skinny and had zero muscles

he was babyfaced. He was 22 but looked 15. I’ve even seen 14 year old boys who look older than him. Remember that there is little to no physical difference between teen girls and women in their early 20s but there is some physical difference between teen guys and guys in their early 20s. Girls stop looking like teenagers in their late 20s/early 30s but for boys they stop looking like teens in their early 20s. ER looked way younger than his age and had a feminine baby face and looked like he couldn’t grow a single facial hair. Being babyfaced and neotenous is good as a woman but a death sentence if you’re male. Here’s ER at 22:

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this is what a typical 22 year old guy really looked like:
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notice how much older he looks. Now here’s ER on his 18th birthday:
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now here’s what a typical 17 year old looks like:
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see? ER looked younger than his age even when he just turned 18. And according to his manifesto, he looked like a 10 year old at 14 and he started puberty very late. And studies show that men who start puberty late are more likely to be sexually inexperienced in adulthood.

While men are attracted to youth and neoteny, women aren’t. Women tend to stay attracted to their own age as they get older while men stay attracted to young women, according to okcupid data. If you are babyfaced, it is a death sentence. If ER was 15 with that appearance he would be maybe a 5.5/10 but looking younger than his age made him a 3/10. Also he had autism which is a death sentence if you’re sub8. Anyone who thinks he’s normie is copemaxxing

The “typical” 22 year old you showed is like a 6-6.5 not a chad but still above average

2.5/10 tbh. Ok I think 3 is decent, but no more than that.

He was like a 4/10 not a 3

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

If I had his face I wouldn't be incel tbh. I already have his height. Being neotenous and babyfaced hurts a lot for sure, but it is not a total killer.

Let me give you this example.

stacey2109 (u/stacey2109) - Reddit

u/stacey2109: Hello world. I am a 20 year-old science nerd with Asperger’s syndrome. I'm a college student and seeking some intelligent/like-minded …

www.reddit.com

This is the chick who commented "Omg tell him to message me. I want a cute faced boy like him" or something when knajjd picture was posted on a different subreddit. Going through you can see that she rates neotenous men highly. She gave one guy who was fully androgynous a super high rating. You can also notice how shallow and superficial she is (autistic girls with alt preferences are no different in their superficiality).

I'm not even going to go to the fact that many of the anime watching autists even prefer Asian guys since that's too much for this board to handle.

I've interacted with many of them to understand I do not even live up to the standards and preferences of my "female counterparts."

That's ignoring the fact that ER doesn't have it super bad neotenous wise. There was literally a 25 year old or something on /pol/ who posted his pics and looked 12. And yes some girls do save pictures of guys like that instantaneously.

There's also the fact that of him being in a very good looking area, dealing with the repercussions of his childhood bullying, and the fact that he battled severe mental illness.

Furthermore, he had tons of looksmaxxing opportunities. There are so many Asian guys worse looking than him who successfully kpopmaxxed.

I'm willing to say all things considered he is an incel (although the never approaching, crippling mental illness, and terrible location isn't just a coincidence); however, he is not a "truecel."

Gigacope. You can’t say “i know foids who like men who look like kids” because that’s cherry-picking. 99.9999% of foids will never want a 25 year old man who looks 12 and most won’t want a babyfaced guy. This is why Asians have very low SMV. ER is a truecel. Being babyfaced is more often than not a death sentence. And he had autism which also is a death sentence for sub8 men.

High IQ. Looking as a little boy is way better than being an ugly ogre. There's a huge niche for pretty neotenous boys. Just look at K-Pop and shit like that.

not true. Most women who like k pop only like them because they’re famous. If they weren’t famous, BTS would be ricecel. Very few women actually like babyfaced men. I remember seeing some on YouTube say she couldn’t like a guy because he looks to young and he only looked 17. Women aren’t attracted to neoteny

So Upper tier normies and Chadlites are average to you now? GTFO. You can't be a Sub4 if you think those guys are your typical (codeword for average) looking guys. Seriously, you have to be trolling right now.

@GoffSystemQB at this point I'm fairly certain that OP is just a girl trolling the heck out of us here.

youre fucking retarded. I never used them because they’re chads. It’s because they look like typical 22 year olds and 17 year olds respectively. Shut up with “muh chadlite cherry-pick” because most men I’ve seen look like that and most sub5 men look just as grown as those guys I showed pics of, so enough accusing people of beings foids over a disagreement. ER looked younger than his age. Look at any senior yearbook and the guys usually look older than he did

The “typical” 22 year old you showed is like a 6-6.5 not a chad but still above average

He was like a 4/10 not a 3

typical doesn’t mean 5-6/10 on the decile scale i called typical based on physical maturity NOT decile attractiveness. Also ER wasn’t a 4/10 he was a 3

 

[FastBananaCEO]

He was more of a Mentalcel imo. Looks wise, he mogs a lot of Asian guys. See some of his victims.

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ER looked clearly better than any of the 3. What really led to his Inceldom was his Aspergers and social inhibitions.

Guy on the left mogs him.

Also although he may not be terribly ugly but u gotta remember how young he looked for his age and his height

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Gigacope. You can’t say “i know foids who like men who look like kids” because that’s cherry-picking. 99.9999% of foids will never want a 25 year old man who looks 12 and most won’t want a babyfaced guy. This is why Asians have very low SMV. ER is a truecel. Being babyfaced is more often than not a death sentence. And he had autism which also is a death sentence for sub8 men.

ER would ascend in any anime convention in the nation. It's not really cherrypicking because there are actually racial and masculinity phenotype preferences among women. That's where the preferences come into play usually among people that already good or sufficient looking.. You will find consistently that many autistic chicks like good-looking neotenous guys for instance. You'll also see that uglier girls like slightly more feminine men or those who are more skewed in their bisexuality towards women.

not true. Most women who like k pop only like them because they’re famous. If they weren’t famous, BTS would be ricecel. Very few women actually like babyfaced men. I remember seeing some on YouTube say she couldn’t like a guy because he looks to young and he only looked 17. Women aren’t attracted to neoteny

Lol, massive cope. You can literally find videos of kpopmaxxed guys just sitting down and like 70% of the Asian women going to the elevator checked him out and stared him down.

It's famous in large part because they're good-looking and is very popular among autistic/anime-loving chicks in the West because those are actually the pinnacle of male attractiveness for them.

Regardless of your semantics there is really no woman attracted to them. It's not just that white stacies don't find him attractive (which they wouldn't).

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

ER would ascend in any anime convention in the nation. It's not really cherrypicking because there are actually racial and masculinity phenotype preferences among women. That's where the preferences come into play usually among people that already good or sufficient looking.. You will find consistently that many autistic chicks like good-looking neotenous guys for instance. You'll also see that uglier girls like slightly more feminine men or those who are more skewed in their bisexuality towards women.


Lol, massive cope. You can literally find videos of kpopmaxxed guys just sitting down and like 70% of the Asian women going to the elevator checked him out and stared him down.

It's famous in large part because they're good-looking and is very popular among autistic/anime-loving chicks in the West because those are actually the pinnacle of male attractiveness for them.

Regardless of your semantics there is no/almost no women who are attracted to a truecel. It's not just that white stacies don't find him attractive (which they wouldn't).

Autistic foids are very rare and anime loving girls only like babyfaced chads (it’s super rare for a chad to be babyfaced). He couldn’t ascend at any anime convention. He’s too autistic to be able to ascend anyways. 99% of foids want men who look physically mature. In fact foids his age thought guys couple years older were best looking. At 22, foids think guys look best at 24. He looked 14/15. Very few women like men who look underage, and only a tiny percent will like a man who looks 12

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Autistic foids are very rare and anime loving girls only like babyfaced chads (it’s super rare for a chad to be babyfaced). He couldn’t ascend at any anime convention. He’s too autistic to be able to ascend anyways. 99% of foids want men who look physically mature. In fact foids his age thought guys couple years older were best looking. At 22, foids think guys look best at 24. He looked 14/15. Very few women like men who look underage, and only a tiny percent will like a man who looks 12

You know that many that watch anime prefer Asians right because of their neotenous features right?

Let me give an example of just how much anime proliferates an incredibly feminine beauty standard for men.

View: https://youtu.be/QqaF_ib4KzE?t=3


The Chad here looks ugly to anyone who watches anime.

99% of foids want men who look physically mature. In fact foids his age thought guys couple years older were best looking. At 22, foids think guys look best at 24. He looked 14/15. Very few women like men who look underage, and only a tiny percent will like a man who looks 12

It's not 99% but yes it is much higher for masculine men of course. He doesn't have it that bad in order photos at his age he looked 17/18. That's not neotenous enough to be a killer. Only when you look like a kid is that when it's the case.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

You know that many that watch anime prefer Asians right because of their neotenous features right?

Let me give an example of just how much anime proliferates an incredibly feminine beauty standard for men.

View: https://youtu.be/QqaF_ib4KzE?t=3


The Chad here looks ugly to anyone who watches anime.


It's not 99% but yes it is much higher for masculine men of course. He doesn't have it that bad in order photos at his age he looked 17/18. That's not neotenous enough to be a killer. Only when you look like a kid is that when it's the case.

Most foids aren’t into anime also he doesn’t look 17/18 here are what 17-18 year olds look like:

they all look older than ER

 

[WØLF]

not true. Most women who like k pop only like them because they’re famous. If they weren’t famous, BTS would be ricecel.

Imagine actually coping this hard

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Imagine actually coping this hard

Nope. Sub10 law exists for Asian men. And baby faces are a death sentence for men

 

[WØLF]

Nope. Sub10 law exists for Asian men. And baby faces are a death sentence for men

Sub 10 lmaoo you’re delusional

 

[NuclearCel]

After @BenBerger made a thread that ER isn’t an incel or is just a normie. Let me say this. He is a truecel. I wouldn’t even call him a locationcel. He was a truecel. People say he only wanted blonde stacys, but the problem is, that can’t make him a volcel because even if he wanted 1/10 landwhales they’d still reject him. He would be rejected by all foids, not just stacys. Therefore he can’t be volcel. Also, there’s no evidence that he would’ve rejected a brunette becky or something. Also, having a BMW and being rich doesn’t help you statusmaxx and ascend if you’re sub5. ER was definitely sub5. And he did think he could ascend with a stacy and he did think he could ascend by winning the lottery so he wasn’t blackpilled but the issue is that the blackpill theory wasn’t around back then. The internet didn’t talk about the blackpill back then so you can’t expect him to be blackpilled

yes he did kill two or three ricecels but he did it because he was planning on luring people into his apartment so he could torture and kill them, and he couldn’t do it with his roommates interfering. It wasn’t because he hated his roommates. He did kill a couple of beckys and a couple of normies. He also tried to kill some sorority stacies but it backfired. But he did try. Also he injured a stacylite named Megan Carloto. Here’s Megan:

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also, ER was definitely sub5 I’d say even sub4. He was UNATTRACTIVE.

He had fish lips. His lower lip was much bigger than his upper lip.

He has a tiny recessed chin although jawline is okay and he does have high strong cheekbones

He had a tiny ass thin nose

he was scrawny as fuck and extremely skinny and had zero muscles

he was babyfaced. He was 22 but looked 15. I’ve even seen 14 year old boys who look older than him. Remember that there is little to no physical difference between teen girls and women in their early 20s but there is some physical difference between teen guys and guys in their early 20s. Girls stop looking like teenagers in their late 20s/early 30s but for boys they stop looking like teens in their early 20s. ER looked way younger than his age and had a feminine baby face and looked like he couldn’t grow a single facial hair. Being babyfaced and neotenous is good as a woman but a death sentence if you’re male. Here’s ER at 22:

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this is what a typical 22 year old guy really looked like:
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notice how much older he looks. Now here’s ER on his 18th birthday:
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now here’s what a typical 17 year old looks like:
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see? ER looked younger than his age even when he just turned 18. And according to his manifesto, he looked like a 10 year old at 14 and he started puberty very late. And studies show that men who start puberty late are more likely to be sexually inexperienced in adulthood.

While men are attracted to youth and neoteny, women aren’t. Women tend to stay attracted to their own age as they get older while men stay attracted to young women, according to okcupid data. If you are babyfaced, it is a death sentence. If ER was 15 with that appearance he would be maybe a 5.5/10 but looking younger than his age made him a 3/10. Also he had autism which is a death sentence if you’re sub8. Anyone who thinks he’s normie is copemaxxing

If you think he was a truecel then you really dont know what a truecel is. I would call him normie tier tbh.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Sub 10 lmaoo you’re delusional

Look up Kevin kreider even he struggled with dating and he’s a gigachang

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Most foids aren’t into anime also he doesn’t look 17/18 here are what 17-18 year olds look like:
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they all look older than ER

Definitely not. I look around my age (22) maybe a bit younger. Lowest I would get is 18. Guy #1 looks older than me would say 23, Guy #2 fair enough I would say 19. Guy #3 20+. Guy #4 20+. Only the 2nd guy or possibly 3rd really looks younger than me.

I'm saying in some of his photos and in video he looks 16-18. Not in that front-angled picture with the blue background. He does look 14-15 or so there.

Also, doesn't matter if it's a minority. A truecel wouldn't have any girl into him let alone a decently sized demographic.

 

[Speedloader]

High IQ. I've grown tired of having to repeat the same thing again and again. ER was a total truecel and was treated as such. The treatment you receive is the best barometer of your PSL and SMV. ER, in spite of his riches, couldn't compensate for his immense deficit in looks.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

If you think he was a truecel then you really dont know what a truecel is. I would call him normie tier tbh.

JFL normie tier men don’t have baby face, fish lips and all scrawny as fuck. This is normie tier

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Look up Kevin kreider even he struggled with dating and he’s a gigachang

No all the kpop guys mog him. Masculine Asian guys aren't slayers. If you look at the male model vs. average white experiment on the incel wiki I would actually say the "average white" used was a chadlite possibly chad who mogged him.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Definitely not. I look around my age (22) maybe a bit younger. Lowest I would get is 18. Guy #1 looks older than me would say 23, Guy #2 fair enough I would say 19. Guy #3 20+. Guy #4 20+. Only the 2nd guy or possibly 3rd really looks younger than me.

I'm saying in some of his photos and in video he looks 16-18. Not in that front-angled picture with the blue background. He does look 14-15 or so there.

Also, doesn't matter if it's a minority. A truecel wouldn't have any girl into him let alone a decently sized demographic.

People could show deformed manlets with girlfriends but deformed manlets are still truecel. Also, ER looked 14/15. 16-18 year old men don’t have tiny noses with soft feminine faces

No all the kpop guys mog him. Masculine Asian guys aren't slayers. If you look at the male model vs. average white experiment on the incel wiki I would actually say the "average white" used was a chadlite possibly chad who mogged him.

Most women like masculine asian men. Only the rare anime foids like neotenous asian men

 

[GoffSystemQB]

People could show deformed manlets with girlfriends but deformed manlets are still truecel. Also, ER looked 14/15. 16-18 year old men don’t have tiny noses with soft feminine faces

Most women like masculine asian men. Only the rare anime foids like neotenous asian men

If you think the that is the same thing there's no point continuing this confirmation. These chicks literally masturbate to the faces of Asian kpop stars. Lol.

Let me know if you find a significant populace of women who do that to a deformed manlet or even one.

 

[GoffSystemQB]

Most women like masculine asian men. Only the rare anime foids like neotenous asian men

Social media speaks for itself. Trying to be masculine while being Asian is a losing game. They have very low masculinity to begin with.

Nobody even knows who that guy is. No white girl is going to pick him over a masculine white guy or maybe even an Asian girl. Not many are posting his pictures daily to lust after.

There are Gigachangs who are masculine and have decent sex appeal but they are far more masculine than even him also tall (don't know what his height is).

 

[NuclearCel]

JFL normie tier men don’t have baby face, fish lips and all scrawny as fuck. This is normie tier
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Debateable, but he was low tier normie perhaps but absolutely not a truecel.

I am a truecel and you would need certain characteristics to be in this category such as short height (5'5 or below), ugly face, obesity, physical/mental disability, and if you are ethnic then you are indeed a truecel.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

Debateable, but he was low tier normie perhaps but absolutely not a truecel.

I am a truecel and you would need certain characteristics to be in this category such as short height (5'5 or below), ugly face, obesity, physical/mental disability, and if you are ethnic then you are indeed a truecel.

ER was a truecel he had autism a baby face and fish lips

Social media speaks for itself. Trying to be masculine while being Asian is a losing game. They have very low masculinity to begin with.

Nobody even knows who that guy is. No white girl is going to pick him over a masculine white guy or maybe even an Asian girl. Not many are posting his pictures daily to lust after.

There are Gigachangs who are masculine and have decent sex appeal but they are far more masculine than even him also tall (don't know what his height is).

the comments talk about how attractive he is. Also, those k pop stars look older I bet than ER and are Changs. Most foids aren’t into k pop stars anyway other than just liking the music

 

[LooksAreLife]

I wish I had ER's face, he mogs me hard.

 

[Incellectual]

his face isn't terrible but his height fucking killed him. Maybe if he was + 6ft he would have been fine (still no chad but could probably get something, not a blonde stacey though probably like he wanted) but at his height and with his face it was over for him.

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

his face isn't terrible but his height fucking killed him. Maybe if he was + 6ft he would have been fine (still no chad but could probably get something, not a blonde stacey though probably like he wanted) but at his height and with his face it was over for him.

His face is terrible he looks underage and has fish lips

 

[Incellectual]

His face is terrible he looks underage and has fish lips

terrible is an over exaggeration tbh. He doesn't have a good face but its not literally horrible. Its pretty normie/low normie tier.

 

[Uglymuggly]

Gigacope. You can’t say “i know foids who like men who look like kids” because that’s cherry-picking. 99.9999% of foids will never want a 25 year old man who looks 12 and most won’t want a babyfaced guy. This is why Asians have very low SMV. ER is a truecel. Being babyfaced is more often than not a death sentence. And he had autism which also is a death sentence for sub8 men.

not true. Most women who like k pop only like them because they’re famous. If they weren’t famous, BTS would be ricecel. Very few women actually like babyfaced men. I remember seeing some on YouTube say she couldn’t like a guy because he looks to young and he only looked 17. Women aren’t attracted to neoteny

youre fucking retarded. I never used them because they’re chads. It’s because they look like typical 22 year olds and 17 year olds respectively. Shut up with “muh chadlite cherry-pick” because most men I’ve seen look like that and most sub5 men look just as grown as those guys I showed pics of, so enough accusing people of beings foids over a disagreement. ER looked younger than his age. Look at any senior yearbook and the guys usually look older than he did

typical doesn’t mean 5-6/10 on the decile scale i called typical based on physical maturity NOT decile attractiveness. Also ER wasn’t a 4/10 he was a 3

If he was a 3 I’m a zero

 

[Edmund_Kemper]

terrible is an over exaggeration tbh. He doesn't have a good face but its not literally horrible. Its pretty normie/low normie tier.

If it was normie he wouldn’t look 14