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Serious Effectiveness of SEAmaxxing as an Asian American

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TLDR: Ricecel fears SEAmaxxing for a QT will backfire due to autism, gold diggers, language barrier. Needs advice on what to do next

Hello folks of .is,
A recent family trip to Vietnam has arisen doubts in the prospect of finding real love in the Southeast.

For context I a 20yr old Vietnamese NT born in the SF bay area with many other Asians. I speak little Vietnamese, but am learning. I try to be friendly and am surprisingly autistic and hard to talk to. I have received the opportunity to stay in the Vietnamese city of Da Nang for however long as I want, after having spent 3 weeks there already. I'll have no housing expenses, and total food costs are $3/day. This is by reason of a granted Visa exemption and family acquisition of a home in my parents' hometown. Unfortunately my family had invited cousins to stay in the home indefinitely to watch over it, with squatters and government law enforcement in mind. As well, flight tickets are very affordable between Asian countries and the US, and I do community college online. I've been disillusioned in the Asian dating scene here. Actually, I've never dated. I intend to go to Vietnam and Thailand soon, and will stay long-term.

There is a barrier set between the locals and myself, resulting from my identity. I appear as a local but I cannot speak like one. In being Asian, I don't get the benefits of exoticism nor halo afforded to whites. These facts may actually help to filter out the superficial white-seekers, but I also lose access to the culturally Vietnamese locals. Speaking in learned Vietnamese receives English responses and questions of my country of origin. The language barrier prevents me from making connections with locals. Practical Viet is much different than that in textbooks. Speaking English marks me as a passing foreigner, who has come over simply for a fun time and should be leaving soon. (Visa exemptions may extend stays from 90 days to up to 180 days). I am relegated to staying with Russians and Americans. Many employees of tourist-popular businesses can speak English, so there are people I could get together with, especially if I join a language exchange group. Though in being able to speak English with me, they may be able to tell that I'm highly neurotypical and autistic. They're also more unattractive due to potential for having Western qualities via exposure to American content.

There is a lesser chance of honesty when those of different backgrounds meet. The wealth disparity between locals and foreigners is quite large. As well, many expats with intentions to stay actually earn little money. Introductions with strangers often leads to sales pitches. Locals and foreigners alike work so much, and it's hard to hang out with others during the daytime. I've heard a small group discussing business for seemingly hours, despite being a block away from the beach; people go here for vacation! The only young Viets I do see out and about are those practicing dancing during the day, and others painting little statues by the river at night. You can always see young people working at restaurants.
Living expenses for foreigners is very low, at $600/month including rent in trendy locations and restaurant food. Locals earn a lower $300/month. I do fear that, in speaking English, locals will only see me as a foreign piggy bank. Family members claim that the economy isn't doing well outside of manufacturing, as can seen by the number of supposed college-graduated Grab delivery drivers. I'm not willing to try out Tinder, as that's for the frivolous and the expat/tourist seeker. Bar scams are quite popular on the app, too. The city is somewhat large, but I'm having some trouble finding opportunities to meet real people.

I am returning soon again and intend to stay much longer. As well, I intend to go to Thailand, with Chiang Mai in mind; I believe I'll find people there more similar to how I am in the US. We should live more simple lives, with less work and more time spent outdoors with others. I hear Thais are friendly too; I like meeting new people, though I have trouble forming friendships, let alone relationships. The city of Da Nang is actually quite boring when alone, and had very few bicyclists, and fewer hiking trails. The only person I've met in Vietnam and do keep in contact with is a big Russian dude, of all people.

I am concerned about the people to find in Southeast Asia. I worry locals may never see me as equal to them, as a foreigner. I fear the people are only interested in my money. I fear that my time abroad won't even matter due to my autism and communication style. I don't want to lean on my nationality nor relative wealth as my attractive quality, as I do have hobbies and a few friends. Despite my apparent lack in confidence, I do intend to stay in Vietnam, learn and speak the language, and finish school. I believe my chances in dating, as even an immersing Asian American are higher than that as an Asian in the US. I believe other Asian Americans have the same worries as I. I'll be overseas in a matter of weeks. I've been a lurker here for a long time and was even introduced via IncelTV's first video on Asians. I'd like to hear for your thoughts and advice in finding a girl in Southeast Asia. Thank you.
 
Are you NT or autistic/non NT?
 
Not directly related to SEAmaxxing but I did notice that a lot of US born EA and SEA men, when they marry, often sourced their wives from their respective ethnic countries. Even if they grew up in US all their lives, they go to their ethnic country for some time (teaching english) and then return with a wife. These Asian men weren't doctors or high earning but regular guys, maybe that's why.
 
Not directly related to SEAmaxxing but I did notice that a lot of US born EA and SEA men, when they marry, often sourced their wives from their respective ethnic countries. Even if they grew up in US all their lives, they go to their ethnic country for some time (teaching english) and then return with a wife. These Asian men weren't doctors or high earning but regular guys, maybe that's why.
That may do, but I'll already be in Vietnam! One of my uncles did that, while my parents' families likely arranged them to marry. My nomad uncle lucked out in South Korea anyways, but expanding up north may be a no-go in this day and age
 
That may do, but I'll already be in Vietnam! One of my uncles did that, while my parents' families likely arranged them to marry. My nomad uncle lucked out in South Korea anyways, but expanding up north may be a no-go in this day and age
I think South Korea and Japan can still work, but you're probably not going to be getting the attractive girl with an education from a respectable family - those types stick to their own. But you might get the farm girl from the countryside who wants greener pastures or the bar girl who works near those military bases.

Honestly I don't think arranged marriages are inherently bad, it's just your family network introducing you to potential mates. But I don't trust my family members because they're fucked up as well and I don't trust their judgment or social networks.
 
I appreciate your well punctuated sentences, however as for your problems the language barrier being broken down is necessary because it means you can function in society easily.
 
Not directly related to SEAmaxxing but I did notice that a lot of US born EA and SEA men, when they marry, often sourced their wives from their respective ethnic countries. Even if they grew up in US all their lives, they go to their ethnic country for some time (teaching english) and then return with a wife. These Asian men weren't doctors or high earning but regular guys, maybe that's why.
Also all the hapa i got to know in shItaly decided to go back to their mother’s country once they became adult
 
TLDR: Ricecel fears SEAmaxxing for a QT will backfire due to autism, gold diggers, language barrier. Needs advice on what to do next

Hello folks of .is,
A recent family trip to Vietnam has arisen doubts in the prospect of finding real love in the Southeast.

For context I a 20yr old Vietnamese NT born in the SF bay area with many other Asians. I speak little Vietnamese, but am learning. I try to be friendly and am surprisingly autistic and hard to talk to. I have received the opportunity to stay in the Vietnamese city of Da Nang for however long as I want, after having spent 3 weeks there already. I'll have no housing expenses, and total food costs are $3/day. This is by reason of a granted Visa exemption and family acquisition of a home in my parents' hometown. Unfortunately my family had invited cousins to stay in the home indefinitely to watch over it, with squatters and government law enforcement in mind. As well, flight tickets are very affordable between Asian countries and the US, and I do community college online. I've been disillusioned in the Asian dating scene here. Actually, I've never dated. I intend to go to Vietnam and Thailand soon, and will stay long-term.

There is a barrier set between the locals and myself, resulting from my identity. I appear as a local but I cannot speak like one. In being Asian, I don't get the benefits of exoticism nor halo afforded to whites. These facts may actually help to filter out the superficial white-seekers, but I also lose access to the culturally Vietnamese locals. Speaking in learned Vietnamese receives English responses and questions of my country of origin. The language barrier prevents me from making connections with locals. Practical Viet is much different than that in textbooks. Speaking English marks me as a passing foreigner, who has come over simply for a fun time and should be leaving soon. (Visa exemptions may extend stays from 90 days to up to 180 days). I am relegated to staying with Russians and Americans. Many employees of tourist-popular businesses can speak English, so there are people I could get together with, especially if I join a language exchange group. Though in being able to speak English with me, they may be able to tell that I'm highly neurotypical and autistic. They're also more unattractive due to potential for having Western qualities via exposure to American content.

There is a lesser chance of honesty when those of different backgrounds meet. The wealth disparity between locals and foreigners is quite large. As well, many expats with intentions to stay actually earn little money. Introductions with strangers often leads to sales pitches. Locals and foreigners alike work so much, and it's hard to hang out with others during the daytime. I've heard a small group discussing business for seemingly hours, despite being a block away from the beach; people go here for vacation! The only young Viets I do see out and about are those practicing dancing during the day, and others painting little statues by the river at night. You can always see young people working at restaurants.
Living expenses for foreigners is very low, at $600/month including rent in trendy locations and restaurant food. Locals earn a lower $300/month. I do fear that, in speaking English, locals will only see me as a foreign piggy bank. Family members claim that the economy isn't doing well outside of manufacturing, as can seen by the number of supposed college-graduated Grab delivery drivers. I'm not willing to try out Tinder, as that's for the frivolous and the expat/tourist seeker. Bar scams are quite popular on the app, too. The city is somewhat large, but I'm having some trouble finding opportunities to meet real people.

I am returning soon again and intend to stay much longer. As well, I intend to go to Thailand, with Chiang Mai in mind; I believe I'll find people there more similar to how I am in the US. We should live more simple lives, with less work and more time spent outdoors with others. I hear Thais are friendly too; I like meeting new people, though I have trouble forming friendships, let alone relationships. The city of Da Nang is actually quite boring when alone, and had very few bicyclists, and fewer hiking trails. The only person I've met in Vietnam and do keep in contact with is a big Russian dude, of all people.

I am concerned about the people to find in Southeast Asia. I worry locals may never see me as equal to them, as a foreigner. I fear the people are only interested in my money. I fear that my time abroad won't even matter due to my autism and communication style. I don't want to lean on my nationality nor relative wealth as my attractive quality, as I do have hobbies and a few friends. Despite my apparent lack in confidence, I do intend to stay in Vietnam, learn and speak the language, and finish school. I believe my chances in dating, as even an immersing Asian American are higher than that as an Asian in the US. I believe other Asian Americans have the same worries as I. I'll be overseas in a matter of weeks. I've been a lurker here for a long time and was even introduced via IncelTV's first video on Asians. I'd like to hear for your thoughts and advice in finding a girl in Southeast Asia. Thank you.
Which is your ethnicity?
If you're a pinoy, a jap or a kimchi forget about northern vietnamese kinh foids, they're robust kinh bulls only.

You can try your luck with khmer south vietnamese jingle monkey foids who arent ethnically vietnamese and therefore date non kinhs
 
Which is your ethnicity?
If you're a pinoy, a jap or a kimchi forget about northern vietnamese kinh foids, they're robust kinh bulls only.

You can try your luck with khmer south vietnamese jingle monkey foids who arent ethnically vietnamese and therefore date non kinhs
(Central) vietnamese. Everyone here is into light skin, and I'm the commonly tanned American. All the kinh viets look the same
 
(Central) vietnamese. Everyone here is into light skin, and I'm the commonly tanned American. All the kinh viets look the same
Central heighlands? If that's so you can try your luck on ho chi minh city with khmer foids though money game
 
TLDR: Ricecel fears SEAmaxxing for a QT will backfire due to autism, gold diggers, language barrier. Needs advice on what to do next

Hello folks of .is,
A recent family trip to Vietnam has arisen doubts in the prospect of finding real love in the Southeast.

For context I a 20yr old Vietnamese NT born in the SF bay area with many other Asians. I speak little Vietnamese, but am learning. I try to be friendly and am surprisingly autistic and hard to talk to. I have received the opportunity to stay in the Vietnamese city of Da Nang for however long as I want, after having spent 3 weeks there already. I'll have no housing expenses, and total food costs are $3/day. This is by reason of a granted Visa exemption and family acquisition of a home in my parents' hometown. Unfortunately my family had invited cousins to stay in the home indefinitely to watch over it, with squatters and government law enforcement in mind. As well, flight tickets are very affordable between Asian countries and the US, and I do community college online. I've been disillusioned in the Asian dating scene here. Actually, I've never dated. I intend to go to Vietnam and Thailand soon, and will stay long-term.

There is a barrier set between the locals and myself, resulting from my identity. I appear as a local but I cannot speak like one. In being Asian, I don't get the benefits of exoticism nor halo afforded to whites. These facts may actually help to filter out the superficial white-seekers, but I also lose access to the culturally Vietnamese locals. Speaking in learned Vietnamese receives English responses and questions of my country of origin. The language barrier prevents me from making connections with locals. Practical Viet is much different than that in textbooks. Speaking English marks me as a passing foreigner, who has come over simply for a fun time and should be leaving soon. (Visa exemptions may extend stays from 90 days to up to 180 days). I am relegated to staying with Russians and Americans. Many employees of tourist-popular businesses can speak English, so there are people I could get together with, especially if I join a language exchange group. Though in being able to speak English with me, they may be able to tell that I'm highly neurotypical and autistic. They're also more unattractive due to potential for having Western qualities via exposure to American content.

There is a lesser chance of honesty when those of different backgrounds meet. The wealth disparity between locals and foreigners is quite large. As well, many expats with intentions to stay actually earn little money. Introductions with strangers often leads to sales pitches. Locals and foreigners alike work so much, and it's hard to hang out with others during the daytime. I've heard a small group discussing business for seemingly hours, despite being a block away from the beach; people go here for vacation! The only young Viets I do see out and about are those practicing dancing during the day, and others painting little statues by the river at night. You can always see young people working at restaurants.
Living expenses for foreigners is very low, at $600/month including rent in trendy locations and restaurant food. Locals earn a lower $300/month. I do fear that, in speaking English, locals will only see me as a foreign piggy bank. Family members claim that the economy isn't doing well outside of manufacturing, as can seen by the number of supposed college-graduated Grab delivery drivers. I'm not willing to try out Tinder, as that's for the frivolous and the expat/tourist seeker. Bar scams are quite popular on the app, too. The city is somewhat large, but I'm having some trouble finding opportunities to meet real people.

I am returning soon again and intend to stay much longer. As well, I intend to go to Thailand, with Chiang Mai in mind; I believe I'll find people there more similar to how I am in the US. We should live more simple lives, with less work and more time spent outdoors with others. I hear Thais are friendly too; I like meeting new people, though I have trouble forming friendships, let alone relationships. The city of Da Nang is actually quite boring when alone, and had very few bicyclists, and fewer hiking trails. The only person I've met in Vietnam and do keep in contact with is a big Russian dude, of all people.

I am concerned about the people to find in Southeast Asia. I worry locals may never see me as equal to them, as a foreigner. I fear the people are only interested in my money. I fear that my time abroad won't even matter due to my autism and communication style. I don't want to lean on my nationality nor relative wealth as my attractive quality, as I do have hobbies and a few friends. Despite my apparent lack in confidence, I do intend to stay in Vietnam, learn and speak the language, and finish school. I believe my chances in dating, as even an immersing Asian American are higher than that as an Asian in the US. I believe other Asian Americans have the same worries as I. I'll be overseas in a matter of weeks. I've been a lurker here for a long time and was even introduced via IncelTV's first video on Asians. I'd like to hear for your thoughts and advice in finding a girl in Southeast Asia. Thank you.
Learn the language and exploit the local currency
 
TLDR: Ricecel fears SEAmaxxing for a QT will backfire due to autism, gold diggers, language barrier. Needs advice on what to do next

Hello folks of .is,
A recent family trip to Vietnam has arisen doubts in the prospect of finding real love in the Southeast.

For context I a 20yr old Vietnamese NT born in the SF bay area with many other Asians. I speak little Vietnamese, but am learning. I try to be friendly and am surprisingly autistic and hard to talk to. I have received the opportunity to stay in the Vietnamese city of Da Nang for however long as I want, after having spent 3 weeks there already. I'll have no housing expenses, and total food costs are $3/day. This is by reason of a granted Visa exemption and family acquisition of a home in my parents' hometown. Unfortunately my family had invited cousins to stay in the home indefinitely to watch over it, with squatters and government law enforcement in mind. As well, flight tickets are very affordable between Asian countries and the US, and I do community college online. I've been disillusioned in the Asian dating scene here. Actually, I've never dated. I intend to go to Vietnam and Thailand soon, and will stay long-term.

There is a barrier set between the locals and myself, resulting from my identity. I appear as a local but I cannot speak like one. In being Asian, I don't get the benefits of exoticism nor halo afforded to whites. These facts may actually help to filter out the superficial white-seekers, but I also lose access to the culturally Vietnamese locals. Speaking in learned Vietnamese receives English responses and questions of my country of origin. The language barrier prevents me from making connections with locals. Practical Viet is much different than that in textbooks. Speaking English marks me as a passing foreigner, who has come over simply for a fun time and should be leaving soon. (Visa exemptions may extend stays from 90 days to up to 180 days). I am relegated to staying with Russians and Americans. Many employees of tourist-popular businesses can speak English, so there are people I could get together with, especially if I join a language exchange group. Though in being able to speak English with me, they may be able to tell that I'm highly neurotypical and autistic. They're also more unattractive due to potential for having Western qualities via exposure to American content.

There is a lesser chance of honesty when those of different backgrounds meet. The wealth disparity between locals and foreigners is quite large. As well, many expats with intentions to stay actually earn little money. Introductions with strangers often leads to sales pitches. Locals and foreigners alike work so much, and it's hard to hang out with others during the daytime. I've heard a small group discussing business for seemingly hours, despite being a block away from the beach; people go here for vacation! The only young Viets I do see out and about are those practicing dancing during the day, and others painting little statues by the river at night. You can always see young people working at restaurants.
Living expenses for foreigners is very low, at $600/month including rent in trendy locations and restaurant food. Locals earn a lower $300/month. I do fear that, in speaking English, locals will only see me as a foreign piggy bank. Family members claim that the economy isn't doing well outside of manufacturing, as can seen by the number of supposed college-graduated Grab delivery drivers. I'm not willing to try out Tinder, as that's for the frivolous and the expat/tourist seeker. Bar scams are quite popular on the app, too. The city is somewhat large, but I'm having some trouble finding opportunities to meet real people.

I am returning soon again and intend to stay much longer. As well, I intend to go to Thailand, with Chiang Mai in mind; I believe I'll find people there more similar to how I am in the US. We should live more simple lives, with less work and more time spent outdoors with others. I hear Thais are friendly too; I like meeting new people, though I have trouble forming friendships, let alone relationships. The city of Da Nang is actually quite boring when alone, and had very few bicyclists, and fewer hiking trails. The only person I've met in Vietnam and do keep in contact with is a big Russian dude, of all people.

I am concerned about the people to find in Southeast Asia. I worry locals may never see me as equal to them, as a foreigner. I fear the people are only interested in my money. I fear that my time abroad won't even matter due to my autism and communication style. I don't want to lean on my nationality nor relative wealth as my attractive quality, as I do have hobbies and a few friends. Despite my apparent lack in confidence, I do intend to stay in Vietnam, learn and speak the language, and finish school. I believe my chances in dating, as even an immersing Asian American are higher than that as an Asian in the US. I believe other Asian Americans have the same worries as I. I'll be overseas in a matter of weeks. I've been a lurker here for a long time and was even introduced via IncelTV's first video on Asians. I'd like to hear for your thoughts and advice in finding a girl in Southeast Asia. Thank you.
There's no such thing as true love. Export Vietnamese groceries to Viet neighbourhoods in USA and Australia and get that foreign currency to richmaxx
 
Not directly related to SEAmaxxing but I did notice that a lot of US born EA and SEA men, when they marry, often sourced their wives from their respective ethnic countries. Even if they grew up in US all their lives, they go to their ethnic country for some time (teaching english) and then return with a wife. These Asian men weren't doctors or high earning but regular guys, maybe that's why.
This is the way. For a decade or so they delude themselves, post on r/AnzIdentity about how they gonna gymaxx and get a white or asian-american foid, then eventually they get blackpilled and geomaxx and USDmaxx and get a foid from their home country. I might join that group, I'm seriously thinking of asking my parents to arrangemarriagemaxx me. They proposed it before.
 
Learn the language and exploit the local currency
Aye, there are so many makers and sellers with products to flip. Everyone there promotes on FB their dried meat products. My mom brought back so many bracelets to flip, too.
This is the way. For a decade or so they delude themselves, post on r/AnzIdentity about how they gonna gymaxx and get a white or asian-american foid, then eventually they get blackpilled and geomaxx and USDmaxx and get a foid from their home country. I might join that group, I'm seriously thinking of asking my parents to arrangemarriagemaxx me. They proposed it before.
The passport is the most powerful tool here. My obviously gay brother, whom I went with, was asked many times if he was single by neighbors and family friends. They'd show him pictures of their daughters. Of course no one asked me if I was interested in girls
 
if you are rice you have to pay the price
 
there are so many makers and sellers with products to flip. Everyone there promotes on FB their dried meat products. My mom brought back so many bracelets to flip, too.
Yeah, Vietnamese people are hard working and business minded so it's hard to compete with locals. If you're a tall Viet you could consider exoticmaxxing in Russia, I've seen posters talk about "Slavpill". I've heard Vietnam has an inflation problem, surely there's some way to exploit that for yourself.
 

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