Discussion Does Anyone Here Write? (Ever Thought About Writing A Novel?)

[BlkPillPres]

There are a lot of resource available now so you won't be going in completely blind like the writers of the past.

Masterclass has a whole "writing" playlist (only choose what's relevant to what you are writing):

https://www.youtube.com/c/masterclass/playlists

Oh and I don't expect you to buy these courses, seriously just google (or go to the obvious sites), you'll find downloads lol.

If you are someone with an active imagination and free time (LDAR), its something you could consider trying your hands at.

There's even free open source software for writing the novel which allows you to organize and flesh out characters, do world building, etc:

Manuskript

Open-source tool for writers

www.theologeek.ch

Or you can find a "free download" for one of the paid ones.

I think I'm gonna try my hand at it (after reviewing some of those courses). I've had a good idea for a novel for like years now, and who knows, if your book blows up and becomes a best seller it could change your entire life.

BE SURE TO DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT HERE IF THAT SHIT HAPPENS AND DON'T USE ANY INCEL LINGO IN INTERVIEWS.

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

I have a lot of philosophy ideas and story ideas I thought up in the past few months.

I was also thinking of writing them down as a book. I’m keep all my ideas a secret that’s how good I feel it is.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I’m keep all my ideas a secret that’s how good I feel it is.

Same

On another note wouldn't write any philosophical works though, I wouldn't know how to structure it. Also people only care what your have to say philosophically if you "have a name", its a kind of "why should I listen to you" thing, and I'm a nobody so I wouldn't jump into that.

Sadly, people who write these kinds of things are rarely appreciated in their own eras. Write and publish your philosophical writings for your own sake, but be sure to do so under your real name, and don't expect any praise or recognition until you are dead.

Philosophy is kind of like art in that respect, nobody cares until you are long gone.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I once wanted to cash in on the Ex Muslim business by writing a book on Islam, but I quit at page 4 because I am lazy.

The problem is you were writing something you weren't interested in, it was a cash grab for you. If its a story that you've thought about for a while and you think about the characters, the plot, etc, then it won't be like that.

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

Sadly, people who write these kinds of things are rarely appreciated in their own eras. Write and publish your philosophical writings for your own sake, but be sure to do so under your real name, and don't expect any praise or recognition until you are dead.

Philosophy is kind of like art in that respect, nobody cares until you are long gone.

Yeah you’re right, thanks for the advice. I’ll probably do just that, I already have it fleshed out.

I already have a power system for my story, also if you need some power ideas you can go check on the power wiki I showed you before:

Superpower Wiki

powerlisting.fandom.com

I made a few powers on there.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Yeah you’re right, thanks for the advice. I’ll probably do just that, I already have it fleshed out.

I already have a power system for my story, also if you need some power ideas you can go check on the power wiki I showed you before:

Superpower Wiki

powerlisting.fandom.com

I made a few powers on there.

Oh the novel I'm writing doesn't have any powers

I do have an idea for a manga though, and I already have all the powers chosen for the characters I dreamed up, even how they look, what they'll wear, etc

If only I could draw

Once I'm wealthmaxxed I'll definitely spend a few years learning, I'd like to create this myself and not go the one punch man route and have other people draw my story for me

(Just realized my manga is a sausage fest, but lets be honest, female characters aren't interesting, and it isn't going to be a kind of "romantic interest" kind of manga anyways)

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

Once I'm wealthmaxxed I'll definitely spend a few years learning, I'd like to create this myself and not go the one punch man route and have other people draw my story for me

Learn the basics don’t make the mistake that most make by learning to only draw anime it limits you. I have a book that teaches me how to draw:

I’m actually not that bad but stopped drawing for years, only recently got back to it.

(Just realized my manga is a sausage fest, but lets be honest, female characters aren't interesting, and it isn't going to be a kind of "romantic interest" kind of manga anyways)

the females in mines are all gonna be background characters

I might also learn to draw digitally eventually since it’s more efficient.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I might also learn to draw digitally eventually since it’s more efficient.

I actually wanna head straight to digital, will buy a "drawing tablet" and I'm sure the software with all the tools I'd need to speed up my work flow will be far along before I'm ready

You know the sad thing is one day there will be AI software that will design and generate the drawings of your characters based on anatomy, perspective, etc lol

All this hard work mangakas are putting in today, paying assistants, etc, and one day some random guy is gonna be able to do his manga by himself effortlessly, and always meet his deadline, plus have free time to relax

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

All this hard work mangakas are putting in today, paying assistants, etc, and one day some random guy is gonna be able to do his manga by himself effortlessly, and always meet his deadline, plus have free time to relax

100 percent we are getting there, there’s a site that kinda already does this though primitively:

Artbreeder

A collaborative tool for creating images with AI.

www.artbreeder.com

Once this type of tech is perfected it will replace pornstars, actors, animators, technology will give everyone the capabilities to be a one man army.

And the Metaverse facebook announced is on the horizon.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I have written a short pedo (only subtly hinted at) love story once and showed to my friends,they actually liked it.

I'm more thinking about something you can put your real name on publicly

@Blackcel rigth wing
I'm wondering if you use my real name or a pen name?

I want to go with real name though, because it makes more sense to claim your own work.

 

[Knajjd]

I've written technical low level designs and UNIX/Linux man pages.

I've ideas for two short stories to sell on Kindle and a diet book to print on my laser printer and sell on Amazon.

I use pen and paper and careful thought to plan content.

Thanks for the links OP I will have a look at them.

 

[Blackcel rigth wing]

I'm wondering if you use my real name or a pen name?

I want to go with real name though, because it makes more sense to claim your own wor

Go with your real name but make sure it has no association to this site.

No incel lingo.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I've ideas for two short stories to sell on Kindle and a diet book to print on my laser printer and sell on Amazon.

Might as well just upload the book to amazon and sell it through Amazon KDP than printing it yourself.

 

[Arabcel9]

thinking about reading morebooks so i get a better idea

 

[BlkPillPres]

There are a lot of resource available now so you won't be going in completely blind like the writers of the past.

Masterclass has a whole "writing" playlist (only choose what's relevant to what you are writing):

https://www.youtube.com/c/masterclass/playlists

Oh and I don't expect you to buy these courses, seriously just google (or go to the obvious sites), you'll find downloads lol.

If you are someone with an active imagination and free time (LDAR), its something you could consider trying your hands at.

There's even free open source software for writing the novel which allows you to organize and flesh out characters, do world building, etc:

Manuskript

Open-source tool for writers

www.theologeek.ch

Or you can find a "free download" for one of the paid ones.

I think I'm gonna try my hand at it (after reviewing some of those courses). I've had a good idea for a novel for like years now, and who knows, if your book blows up and becomes a best seller it could change your entire life.

BE SURE TO DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT HERE IF THAT SHIT HAPPENS AND DON'T USE ANY INCEL LINGO IN INTERVIEWS.

@Blackcel rigth wing @C&UNIX @Arabcel9

EDIT - Actually use manuskript and other free software, don't risk it using a "cracked" version of any software, the software might be coded to leave some kind of digital signature in your pdf/epub/etc export, so when you submit that document to whatever publishing site you use, it might come back to bite you in the ass that you wrote your novel using a software you hadn't bought yet (now they could sue for your money)

But hey, if you make sure to buy the software before you even publish then no worries, that's probably the best thing to do

I notice most writers use Scrivener, I found a download for it, but I was worried about starting my novel using it and then I get sued because of something like I stated above.

But I'll just write the novel and then buy the software before I export, and I'll re-open my project in the paid full version and delete the cracked version.

thinking about reading morebooks so i get a better idea

If that's how you get ideas then go ahead, but don't make your novel just end up being a copy of a story that's been told a million times, there are a lot of people home during COVID right now, if your story isn't different from everybody else's, it won't make a difference.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

I once wanted to cash in on the Ex Muslim business by writing a book on Islam, but I quit at page 4 because I am lazy.

You would need to spend some time doing world building. Flesh out the characters and the places before trying to draw up the story line. And a lot of books are not written completely linearly, there is a lot of jumping around and fixing up sections which have already been written.

 

[Rotmwrt]

I can't write at length for shit. Always run out of words.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You would need to spend some time doing world building. Flesh out the characters and the places before trying to draw up the story line. And a lot of books are not written completely linearly, there is a lot of jumping around and fixing up sections which have already been written.

Scrivener is the perfect software for that, it isn't free though, but you can find a download for a safe cracked version if you know where to look

Usually I'd post a link but I'm pretty sure this forum is filled with glow niggers these days and the laws of how incels are being persecuted may have changed recently

They might have a lot of leeway right now to prosecute incels for minor things and go on a fishing expedition until they get something to land you in prison

@Blackcel rigth wing @C&UNIX @Arabcel9
Be sure to buy the full version and import your project back into that one

After uninstalling the cracked version and restarting your computer, install the paid version and register it with your license - make sure to copy your project files and save it to a zip archive before uninstalling

You don't want to publish a best seller using cracked software, if there is any indication it was cracked due to some digital signature and time stamping (time stamp shows it was created before you even bought the software license), the company can probably sue you to get money from your novel

You have be very paranoid when it comes to things like this and expect these kinds of things to happen

I can't write at length for shit. Always run out of words.

No such thing as running out of words, what happened is you ran out of thoughts

In order to write you need to have ideas, you need to use your imagination, you need to start off with a goal and then from there everything will be about how you progress the story/writing to arrive at that end goal

Either way look at the courses from the playlist, find a download for those courses, they are from professional best time selling writers, I'm pretty sure the cover how to overcome "writers block"

 

[based_meme]

Yes, I've been meaning to write a philosophical manifesto that covers a wide range of topics from within philosophy (metaphysics, ethics, epistemology), as well as broader topics like the human condition, society, politics, money, and the state of the species and its future.

There's too much to say and I'm not sure where to begin. It's a book I don't want to tailor to any specific audience or type of reader, but I also don't want to vomit stream of consciousness onto sheets of paper.

I’m keep all my ideas a secret that’s how good I feel it is.

Black pill: It isn't. An idea becomes real once it occupies at least two minds.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Black pill: It isn't. An idea becomes real once it occupies at least two minds.

He didn't say nobody else has thought of it, in fact there's no way for him to know that, he's just saying that he isn't going to ruin his chances that he's the first one to publish it

I'm sure someone has probably thought of some variation of the novel I want to write, that doesn't mean I'm going to be an idiot and publicly discuss it so other other person gets inspired and takes my idea and becomes famous off it

Giving away your ideas as a writer who has yet to become famous is like giving away your future to someone else

If they write it first, or they have more money for advertising, or they have better networking in the world of writing, you are screwed

 

[based_meme]

He didn't say nobody else has thought of it, in fact there's no way for him to know that, he's just saying that he isn't going to ruin his chances that he's the first one to publish it

I'm sure someone has probably thought of some variation of the novel I want to write, that doesn't mean I'm going to be an idiot and publicly discuss it so other other person gets inspired and takes my idea and becomes famous off it

Giving away your ideas as a writer who has yet to become famous is like giving away your future to someone else

If they write it first, or they have more money for advertising, or they have better networking in the world of writing, you are screwed

You misunderstood and missed my point yet again bro (seems to be a common theme with you and I ).

An idea floating in a head is pure fantasy and abstraction. It only starts to become real once it's concretized somehow (whether written or spoken) and it occupies another mind though reading or listening (and sometimes viewing).

So in his and your example, your ideas aren't good nor bad. They're nothing, but an organization of thoughts in your heads. To know if the ideas are good or bad (and how good or bad), they need to be put out there in some concrete form. The evaluator of the idea, then, is to be a different mind.

You can't decide if the idea you have in your head is a great idea. It doesn't work that way. You have to express it somehow, and then others decide that.

Before you misunderstand one more time, all of this isn't to say that you should share your idea here. What it is saying, however, is that you should seek to take action with your idea. Of course, you do that in an intelligent way that gives you the credit and any potential gain. That doesn't include posting about it freely on the internet.

 

[Knajjd]

This article is an interesting read.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/exclusive-inside-a-million-dollar-amazon-kindle-catfishing-scam/

I'm thinking of doing something similar (no scamming though) as in rewriting or merging Wikipedia articles in a more readable format.

If I produce dozens of small Kindle books then one or two may become good earners.

What do you think of this idea?

 

[BlkPillPres]

So in his and your example, your ideas aren't good nor bad. They're nothing, but an organization of thoughts in your heads. To know if the ideas are good or bad (and how good or bad), they need to be put out there in some concrete form. The evaluator of the idea, then, is to be a different mind.

You can't decide if the idea you have in your head is a great idea. It doesn't work that way. You have to express it somehow, and then others decide that.

Lol, you know for a fact what you're saying makes no sense at all, you are basically applying Schrodingers experiment to thought itself, the worth of an idea is already established even before other people observe it.

The first guy to make a wheel, he didn't need other people around him to know it was a good idea, he tested it out himself without anyone seeing, saw that it was a good idea, and then showed its effectiveness to others AFTER he established its worth and functionality

No other mind was required to establish worth

Same with the first man to "craft a spear", he had the idea, probably gained inspiration from some animal. He knew the idea was good and worth testing even before anyone else thought of it, heard of it, or saw the finished product

People assess the worth of their own ideas and know it would be useful or not, other minds aren't required

You can write a story and it will be entertaining regardless of whether or not you are the only person that reads it

You can create a recipe and see for yourself that it tastes good, other people tasting it isn't required

What you are saying makes no sense at all, other minds aren't required to assess the worth of all ideas

I'm thinking of doing something similar (no scamming though) as in rewriting or merging Wikipedia articles in a more readable format.

Dude, let me tell you something right now, publishing to Amazon comes down to two things:
1. Keywords
2. A lot of money for advertising

If you aren't willing to invest money into the required keyword research tools and for advertising give up

The time you will spend trying to patch those books together will be wasted if nobody can see it when they search for it, it will be drowned out by all the other listings

Competition is ridiculous right now

 

[based_meme]

Lol, you know for a fact what you're saying makes no sense at all, you are basically applying Schrodingers experiment to thought itself, the worth of an idea is already established even before other people observe it.

The first guy to make a wheel, he didn't need other people around him to know it was a good idea, he tested it out himself without anyone seeing, saw that it was a good idea, and then showed its effectiveness to others AFTER he established its worth and functionality

No other mind was required to establish worth

Same with the first man to "craft a spear", he had the idea, probably gained inspiration from some animal. He knew the idea was good and worth testing even before anyone else thought of it, heard of it, or saw the finished product

People assess the worth of their own ideas and know it would be useful or not, other minds aren't required

You can write a story and it will be entertaining regardless of whether or not you are the only person that reads it

You can create a recipe and see for yourself that it tastes good, other people tasting it isn't required

What you are saying makes no sense at all, other minds aren't required to assess the worth of all ideas

The wheel is a very good example. I'll grant you that it may not be necessary to have an external evaluator of ideas, but it remains true that ideas do need to be concretized in order to be evaluated for their utility and efficacy, else it's all theory, in which case you would have to do the math and show that it's true.

Tbh, the post was a spur of the moment. I'll have to reevaluate my conclusion.

 

[Arabcel9]

@Blackcel rigth wing @C&UNIX @Arabcel9

EDIT - Actually use manuskript and other free software, don't risk it using a "cracked" version of any software, the software might be coded to leave some kind of digital signature in your pdf/epub/etc export, so when you submit that document to whatever publishing site you use, it might come back to bite you in the ass that you wrote your novel using a software you hadn't bought yet (now they could sue for your money)

But hey, if you make sure to buy the software before you even publish then no worries, that's probably the best thing to do

I notice most writers use Scrivener, I found a download for it, but I was worried about starting my novel using it and then I get sued because of something like I stated above.

But I'll just write the novel and then buy the software before I export, and I'll re-open my project in the paid full version and delete the cracked version.

thanks for the advice , i appreciate it

If that's how you get ideas then go ahead, but don't make your novel just end up being a copy of a story that's been told a million times, there are a lot of people home during COVID right now, if your story isn't different from everybody else's, it won't make a difference.

lol im not reading more books so i can copy the story , im reading more books so i get a better(and more different) ideas of how to structure my book

 

[Knajjd]

Lol, you know for a fact what you're saying makes no sense at all, you are basically applying Schrodingers experiment to thought itself, the worth of an idea is already established even before other people observe it.

The first guy to make a wheel, he didn't need other people around him to know it was a good idea, he tested it out himself without anyone seeing, saw that it was a good idea, and then showed its effectiveness to others AFTER he established its worth and functionality

No other mind was required to establish worth

Same with the first man to "craft a spear", he had the idea, probably gained inspiration from some animal. He knew the idea was good and worth testing even before anyone else thought of it, heard of it, or saw the finished product

People assess the worth of their own ideas and know it would be useful or not, other minds aren't required

You can write a story and it will be entertaining regardless of whether or not you are the only person that reads it

You can create a recipe and see for yourself that it tastes good, other people tasting it isn't required

What you are saying makes no sense at all, other minds aren't required to assess the worth of all ideas



Dude, let me tell you something right now, publishing to Amazon comes down to two things:
1. Keywords
2. A lot of money for advertising

If you aren't willing to invest money into the required keyword research tools and for advertising give up

The time you will spend trying to patch those books together will be wasted if nobody can see it when they search for it, it will be drowned out by all the other listings

Competition is ridiculous right now

That's bad news. I had high hopes for that business idea but thanks for the heads up OP.

I think I'll still give it a try though. There might be a way through, somehow or other.

 

[BlkPillPres]

thanks for the advice , i appreciate it

lol im not reading more books so i can copy the story , im reading more books so i get a better(and more different) ideas of how to structure my book

Check out the courses above, you have award winning writers telling you how to structure your book and how to write.

Reading a bunch of books isn't going to get straight to the point of what you want to know, it might just end up becoming a form of procrastination - "Oh I'm not there yet, just one more book from X author, I'm sure I'll know exactly what I want to do then".

Another thing too, the way I look at it, right now my mind is immersed in the world I'm trying create, the worse thing I can do is immerse myself in the writings of some other professional, because then I'll start doubting and judging my work against there's. Or worse, it'll take me "out of my world" and then the ideas stop coming to me like they are now.

For example, you know the weirdest thing happened. As I was waking up yesterday my mind dreamed up what's going to be the logo (icon) for the book, I wasn't even trying to think about it, but I probably ended up dreaming about it. Now I already know what the book cover is going to be, the name of certain group in the book, etc. All by random chance because I was immersed in my own writings.

That's bad news. I had high hopes for that business idea but thanks for the heads up OP.

I think I'll still give it a try though. There might be a way through, somehow or other.

Hey try it out still, let me know if it works out, I could try a different niche then

Do some research on how to get your book in the top listings, if you figure out a loophole for that you're set.

I tried selling a niche book during the whole COVID scare thing, and I got like 2 sales, but I had to price the book extremely low and set it to be digital on kindle and be given away for free sometimes (no joke).

Most of every industry in the world right now comes down to marketing, marketing is more important than content because there's too many humans lol, you're up against millions who are doing the same thing you are.

 

[KetamineAddictYoda]

ya, ive been wanting to write for a while. was always good at it in school but never enjoyed it. finally got around to writing a little bit of a romance adventure ive had in mind. i have so many ideas i cant decide what i want. think ill start with some short stories with drawings first if i ever get back to it

 

[erenyeager]

I can't write at length for shit. Always run out of words.

Same. Drawing is more interesting. Foids dying in my style is very beautiful

 

[BlkPillPres]

ya, ive been wanting to write for a while. was always good at it in school but never enjoyed it. finally got around to writing a little bit of a romance adventure ive had in mind. i have so many ideas i cant decide what i want. think ill start with some short stories with drawings first if i ever get back to it

Very ironic for an incel to write in the romance genre

If you plan on actually publishing, maybe you shouldn't, what might seem normal or "erotic" to you might see "off" to your readers (which will mostly be women)

 

[senses fail]

I started writing in a journal to catalogue my thoughts throughout the day. Might be something cool to look back on to see the decent into madness