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Serious Does anyone here seriously consider themselves as the "confident, charming, talkative" type?

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I mean I know it's probably not likely, but does anyone here have the kind of cocky, confident and charming personality that girls seem to swoon over? If so, do you still not get any interest from girls because of your looks?

I'm not talking about you ugly fuckers that tried PUA for a week and got rejected and claim it's bullshit. Does anyone here actually, legitimately have "game", but you get rejected because of your looks?

I have a suspicion that if we truly had game we could rise above our deformed ugliness and manlet-ness and bag at least 3/9 or even 4/9 chicks easily.
 
How can you have confidence if you are ugly and people don't like you, we are ugly to even have real friends let alone to talk to foids.
 
How can you have confidence if you are ugly and people don't like you, we are ugly to even have real friends let alone to talk to foids.

But if you had "game", or could at least fake "game" and were at least not extremely deformed, I bet you could bag a 2/9 chick and make her day.

Because of this fact, > 80% of the people on this forum are probably volcel.
 
I can only talk goodly when i'm making a political statement.
 
I have a very affable personality. People like talking to me and coming for advice, but that doesn't mean women want to fuck me.
I am friendzoned almost immediately partly because I am an ethnic manlet and partly because of my nice guy attitude.
 
But if you had "game", or could at least fake "game" and were at least not extremely deformed, I bet you could bag a 2/9 chick and make her day.

Because of this fact, > 80% of the people on this forum are probably volcel.
If i could do that would i spent my time on a Forum ? Are you stupid OP ? Haven't you heard of the juggernaut law ?
 
I have a very affable personality. People like talking to me and coming for advice, but that doesn't mean women want to fuck me.
I am friendzoned almost immediately partly because I am an ethnic manlet and partly because of my nice guy attitude.

Being nice isn't "game". I'm talking about "game".

"GAME" BITCH DO YOU SPEAK IT?
 
thats fucking bullshit, no matter how much "game" you have, what you look like matters, unless you got tons of money or fame
wake the fuck up and stop being a dumb stupid bitch
 
I’m talkative and outgoing with my coworkers and acquaintenances. I’m just plain Jane looking as much as one can be.
 
Being nice isn't "game". I'm talking about "game".

"GAME" BITCH DO YOU SPEAK IT?
I use to try to talk game when I was younger. I am too old for that and would look like a creep if I tried now.
 
thats fucking bullshit, no matter how much "game" you have, what you look like matters, unless you got tons of money or fame
wake the fuck up and stop being a dumb stupid bitch

nah, just spin plates bro, just cold approach random women on the street bro, jfl the redpill cope
 
I'm pretty much the exact opposite of all of these qualities.
 
Charming, confident, talkative personality is starting to develop from earliest age, then you develop basic social skills in kindergarden, then throught elementary school, then you have your first girlfriend, then you go to high school and lose your virginity etc. When you are fucked up in the early stage in your development, and you spent all your growing up as an freak and outcast, unless you look like George Clooney, you're fucked up, and your life will be one long trip of suffering
 
My main job is in sales (fortunately 98% of the clients are males) so I have a few of these qualities. I'm extroverted, good at talking, and can make people laugh which helps significantly in sales but helps absolutely nothing when I get the confidence to go try and talk to a girl. If you can't meet their looks requirements, it doesn't matter how good you are at "seducing" them or impressing them with your charisma because they will write you off before you even open your mouth.

If I weren't hideous my social skills might help though tbh.
 
My main job is in sales (fortunately 98% of the clients are males) so I have a few of these qualities. I'm extroverted, good at talking, and can make people laugh which helps significantly in sales but helps absolutely nothing when I get the confidence to go try and talk to a girl. If you can't meet their looks requirements, it doesn't matter how good you are at "seducing" them or impressing them with your charisma because they will write you off before you even open your mouth.

If I weren't hideous my social skills might help though tbh.

So you're saying when you interact with women during your work, they respond positively, but as soon as dating or relationships are involved they reject you?
 
sometimes, if I'm under the influence
 
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I can be talkative on matters that I'm knowledgeable on. Nobody will listen because I'm ugly.
 
I mean I know it's probably not likely, but does anyone here have the kind of cocky, confident and charming personality that girls seem to swoon over? If so, do you still not get any interest from girls because of your looks?

I'm not talking about you ugly fuckers that tried PUA for a week and got rejected and claim it's bullshit. Does anyone here actually, legitimately have "game", but you get rejected because of your looks?

I have a suspicion that if we truly had game we could rise above our deformed ugliness and manlet-ness and bag at least 3/9 or even 4/9 chicks easily.
I have zero game but if I take what normies say at face value, then I'm probably better at talking to others when its needed. Whereas a lot of people complain that they have "anxiety" talking in front of crowds, or talking to other people in general. If I was a good looking charismatic Chad, I could probably go far in my job because of how communicative I am compared to other people, who like to avoid getting out of their chair at all cost. I'm not cocky, but I am definitely confident when I am on my own turf (that is to say, when I'm dealing in my own area of expertise) and people who know me even seem to listen to me and trust me because they know I know my stuff.
 
Being nice isn't "game". I'm talking about "game".

"GAME" BITCH DO YOU SPEAK IT?
game isn't real. you really think saying how much does a polar bear weigh? enough to break the ice is going to change anything? be good looking or don't leave your house. game is made up by guys who want your money.
 
I fucking hate talking tbh
 
So you're saying when you interact with women during your work, they respond positively, but as soon as dating or relationships are involved they reject you?

No, women generally usher me out as fast as possible by just buying what I'm selling immediately. Usually the people I work with are in their 40's or 50's and are generally just focused on work and business so my looks don't really prevent me from doing my job well. I make it clear to any woman I sell stuff too that the only thing I'm there for is to get them to buy the product and nothing else so I think they are more comfortable when I say that.
 
You placed a SRS tag in the thread title and yet I have my doubts; what a question. OP, you should know by now how nature and nurture shape-up someone's personality, and all of us in here have experienced years of bad social experiences to say the least. No one walks out of that with a "confident, charming & talkative" persona - no one. Some have higher spirits than others by nature, but those traits you specifically mentioned have all to do with social skills bred from positive feedback which, given our status as sexual pariahs, would be a contradiction.
 
But if you had "game", or could at least fake "game" and were at least not extremely deformed, I bet you could bag a 2/9 chick and make her day.

Because of this fact, > 80% of the people on this forum are probably volcel.
no because "personality" is genetic and/or developed in early childhood
 
Because of my ugliness and my "whiteness" (Despite being Black) I was never accepted into social circles, so of course i'm not charming or a slick talker, those are skills you develop from being accepted and being allowed to grow into a social butterfly. Men who were rejected all their lives will never be charming.
 
Logically, I know I'm not any of these things.
But part of my brain is broken where I think I'm cooler than I am, even though all evidence in my life has suggested otherwise.

no because "personality" is genetic and/or developed in early childhood
This.

Even if personality IS legit (it's not, been confirmed), it's retarded to think that an ugly male would be able to develop the same "high quality personality" that an attractive male who receives constant positive support throughout his early childhood would.
Blaming an incel for having a bad personality is like blaming a man without legs for not walking.
 
But if you had "game", or could at least fake "game" and were at least not extremely deformed, I bet you could bag a 2/9 chick and make her day.

Because of this fact, > 80% of the people on this forum are probably volcel.
your charm is just as genetic as your looks, this is of course assuming that a 1/10 can get laid if he was charming enough. (Not that I agree with it)
 
Low inhib + ugly af + incel = Sexual harassment charges
 
During my redpilled years I practiced my confidence and social intelligence a lot. I went from introverted to extrovert. Now I only use these skills at work.
 
I've had girls tell me I have a confident personality, only to reject me.
 

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