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Serious The Social Costs to your Social Status

lennox

lennox

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People care about your school and work.

I consistently receive disappointing responses to my answers about my work or education. As I try to meet many new people, they'll often ask me things like, "Do you go to UC Berkeley?" Or maybe "What company do you work at?" I'll reply back to the tune of "No, I'm not doing anything useful in my life." The questions sting deep. I am just not capable of doing those things. I don't have any job or any internship experience, and I don't even know if I will ever get a degree - and I'm Asian! Today, someone I'd met even suggested I go for a big tech job, and they themselves probably could. All the other Asian guys (and girls!) are doing fun things in the city but I can't partake in their world. We're a community that I'm not actually a part of. "Successful" is the script of the bay area Asian, and I'm the glaring typo to be cast aside. Do you think a girl would go for me when there are dozens of identical clones of me in SF, but 150k/year richer? It just sucks to be written off so immediately like an "ick." Growing up in an area of high achievers, many of whom had moved here from around and outside the country for the local opportunities, I'm the worst outcome. Most everyone I know is graduating and hoping for job offers. Disappointment follows me everywhere.

While hunting for new friends, we eventually collide. I might appear normal at first; I've been practicing my socializing skills for a very long time now and dress quite decently. I try to be fun and friendly. I break the ice and the silence and I fit the clothes I wear. I speak cohesively - you couldn't tell I learned how to talk just from watching Youtube videos less than a year ago. To other dudes, I give off a very decent impression. Fatally, I haven't improved at all my social status. I'm a bum who does not meet any minimum qualification for proper employment. I've come across many people that I'd gotten along with, but I always hear the disappointment in their tones when they learn a bit more about me. I get ready to hear the stretched out "ohhh" and an awkward silence as I literally have no more to say. I'm not perceived as somebody who could partake in other peoples' lives as I have little future prospects. You can't be a friend when you're static, unchanging in life. Soon my fun words will run out and I'll have nothing new to offer. I feel like Peter Pan but my former friends were the adults. You can't be a partner when you can't provide. That ability is perhaps the most basic requirement for a relationship.

What's funny is that other low status people get along with me best, and I hear relief when they learn that I'm like them. That we don't feel inferiority to one another. Maybe we're holding each other down when we're not holding each other accountable; friends often push each other to go to the best schools and get the best jobs. The NEET community could portray this, where solace is found when others like you simply live in peace. Most people I've befriended are baristas and community college students. I am happy to have people fun as them that do with me the things I enjoy, but I fear for our financial futures.

Having a job does matter for social reasons. The causes for unemployment may be circular: I've been alone, and that made me depressed, and I'm unmotivated in school, so I'm unemployed and under-socialized, and that keeps people away. I ignore certain invites, I lock myself away, and I let time and opportunities slip by. That loop smothers motivation and locks us into Neetdom. Self sabotaging behavior comes from within, and that is our response to the harsh world we live. We must break out.

I've been reflecting on the question of what motivates us to do the things we do. I'd always get depressed and would leave school for weeks. I am totally insecure about my job situation. I'm realizing now that other people, and myself, would only allow me to progress in social terms when economic progress is achieved first. Status improvements allow for social improvements. Remember that school or apprenticeships get you more than a job but the ability to move out, gain independence, and self-advocacy. Then you'll be proper dating material. I call for all readers to get educated, skilled, and employed. I'm going to commit to educating myself, as this may be the most impactful investment, let alone my last option. There's plenty of reason for you to do the same, but the clock is ticking and the train preparing to depart. When someone next asks me where I work, I'll tell them about the bright plan I'm following.

TLDR don't NEET. Get education. You'll be the odd one out and never in
 
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No replies, brutal. Good thread though, pretty high IQ, thanks for the read.

While hunting for new friends, we eventually collide. I might appear normal at first; I've been practicing my socializing skills for a very long time now and dress quite decently. I try to be fun and friendly. I break the ice and the silence and I fit the clothes I wear. I speak cohesively - you couldn't tell I learned how to talk just from watching Youtube videos less than a year ago. To other dudes, I give off a very decent impression. Fatally, I haven't improved at all my social status. I'm a bum who does not meet any minimum qualification for proper employment. I've come across many people that I'd gotten along with, but I always hear the disappointment in their tones when they learn a bit more about me. I get ready to hear the stretched out "ohhh" and an awkward silence as I literally have no more to say. I'm not perceived as somebody who could partake in other peoples' lives as I have little future prospects. You can't be a friend when you're static, unchanging in life. Soon my fun words will run out and I'll have nothing new to offer.
This was the most frustrating part when I was a NEET. The NEET lifestyle is definitely peaceful, but when you interact with anyone outside of your close family it feels like you’ve just got out of prison. You have to reintegrate into society.
I feel like Peter Pan but my former friends were the adults. You can't be a partner when you can't provide. That ability is perhaps the most basic requirement for a relationship.
This applies to every friendships as well, you always have to provide something to be interesting.
Having a job does matter for social reasons. The causes for unemployment may be circular: I've been alone, and that made me depressed, and I'm unmotivated in school, so I'm unemployed and under-socialized, and that keeps people away. I ignore certain invites, I lock myself away, and I let time and opportunities slip by. That loop smothers motivation and locks us into Neetdom. Self sabotaging behavior comes from within, and that is our response to the harsh world we live. We must break out.
Perfect depiction of the NEET circle. We must break out, but I’m not convinced that it’s possible at this point, for me at least. It’s constant downward spiral, where every passing year is slightly more worse and miserable than the previous one. Once you got into it, it’s near impossible to ever achieve a “normal life”.

Worst part is that I don’t even see the way out, I don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. I’d at least knew that it’s worth to “keep grinding and hustling” despite the suffering that comes with self-improvement, but no. Nothing.
I've been reflecting on the question of what motivates us to do the things we do. I'd always get depressed and would leave school for weeks. I am totally insecure about my job situation. I'm realizing now that other people, and myself, would only allow me to progress in social terms when economic progress is achieved first. Status improvements allow for social improvements.
Facts.
Remember that school or apprenticeships get you more than a job but the ability to move out, gain independence, and self-advocacy. Then you'll be proper dating material. I call for all readers to get educated, skilled, and employed. I'm going to commit to educating myself, as this may be the most impactful investment, let alone my last option. There's plenty of reason for you to do the same, but the clock is ticking and the train preparing to depart. When someone next asks me where I work, I'll tell them about the bright plan I'm following.
Wish you the best brocel, I hope you make it. What’s your plan?
 
No replies, brutal. Good thread though, pretty high IQ, thanks for the read.


This was the most frustrating part when I was a NEET. The NEET lifestyle is definitely peaceful, but when you interact with anyone outside of your close family it feels like you’ve just got out of prison. You have to reintegrate into society.

This applies to every friendships as well, you always have to provide something to be interesting.

Perfect depiction of the NEET circle. We must break out, but I’m not convinced that it’s possible at this point, for me at least. It’s constant downward spiral, where every passing year is slightly more worse and miserable than the previous one. Once you got into it, it’s near impossible to ever achieve a “normal life”.

Worst part is that I don’t even see the way out, I don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. I’d at least knew that it’s worth to “keep grinding and hustling” despite the suffering that comes with self-improvement, but no. Nothing.

Facts.

Wish you the best brocel, I hope you make it. What’s your plan?
I'm gonna study web dev like it's a full time job: I've got 8hr/day 5 days a week to get my practical skills up. I'm focusing on the industry standard software pipeline. Periodically want to make websites and apps that get real users. Projects that show my passion and creativity will be my career networking device. My resume will look so good that I'm certain to be employed or interning in a year.

I've been talking to a variety of people (and chatbots) about feasible plans. School requires I figure out my depression and it's the longest out of completion, so I'm committing to self learning in the one thing I like. I haven't even registered for class retakes. If this doesn't work out then it will be my end.

For yourself, you must consider all possibilities and find the methods with the highest success rate, or at least feasibility in execution. It's not over for you yet so get out there. If you need help we can talk
 
TLDR don't NEET. Get education. You'll be the odd one out and never in
We all were the odd ones since out birth and no amount of money or job will change that
 
"Everyone you meet always asks if you have a career, are married, or own a house as if life was some kind of grocery list. But no one ever asks you if you are happy"- Heath Ledger

Between you and me bro I hate normies who immediately ask what I do for work or where I went to school. They do this to immediately size you up and decide if they should treat you like a human being or garbage. They also do this because if you give answers that you went to a no name school or no job/low level job they will feel better about themselves. Between you and me, I hope the people who ask these kind of questions are insecure (usually are) and unhappy with their lives. I hope they rope
 

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