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Discussion Do you think prostitution should be illegal?

Should it be illegal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 39 26.9%
  • No

    Votes: 106 73.1%

  • Total voters
    145
We should, but other humans don't care about us, so why should we care about them?

Most humans haven't heard from each of us individually.
 
We're not machines, we should care about other humans.

You are literally going out of your way to prove my point that you can't argue based on logic, you come straight out of the box with some vague BS appeal to emotion statement that doesn't really mean anything

"Were not machines"

Here's my response to that

"Were not special either, were just animals who have the curse of self awareness and the gift of intelligence"

Saying were not machines doesn't really mean anything, us not being machines doesn't mean by default that we should "care about other humans", you seem to be skipping quite a few logical steps and replacing them with your assertions
 
You are literally going out of your way to prove my point that you can't argue based on logic, you come straight out of the box with some vague BS appeal to emotion statement that doesn't really mean anything

"Were not machines"

Here's my response to that

"Were not special either, were just animals who have the curse of self awareness and the gift of intelligence"

Saying were not machines doesn't really mean anything, us not being machines doesn't mean by default that we should "care about other humans", you seem to be skipping quite a few logical steps and replacing them with your assertions

We aren't animals either. We're too sapient to be animals. Us not being machines nor animals means we're sophisticated to grasp concepts of "kindness" and "cruelty."
 
Still better than roping

It quite literally isn't JFL, and it isn't better than paying for sex

I can spend my time getting beaten up by Chad and probably raped in prison (THEN DIE) after capture upon my 10th rape (assuming I even last that long)

Or I can retire to SEA and spend my years fucking 6+/10 asian bitches, and if I want to kill myself I can go out after a threesome or something and OD on heroine (never done any drugs, so rather than "chasing the ultimate high" like addicts spend their lives doing, I'll die experiencing it)

IDK about you, but the second one sounds way better if were talking about paths leading to death
 
We aren't animals either. We're too sapient to be animals. Us not being machines nor animals means we're sophisticated to grasp concepts of "kindness" and "cruelty."

You speak of the concepts as though they are separate from us, we didn't GRASP these concepts, WE CREATED THEM

They don't actually exist, its all in our heads, these concepts don't function like ACTUAL LAWS (gravity, thermodynamics, etc)

They are only as real as much as we enforce them

If I jump off of a tall building I will fall, nobody has to remind me about gravity for me to fall, nobody has to force me to fall, appeal to my emotions to make me fall, etc, I fall because GRAVITY ACTUALLY EXISTS (unlike the concepts and "moral laws" you speak of)

Either way, one should only adhere to those concepts if they are part of the social contract that imbues them with the benefits typical of adherence

Incels are not part of the social contract, there's no logical reason for us to adhere to any of these concepts
 
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Bruh... The more I see @FrothySolutions post, the more I think "he's" a foid larper or IT infiltrator. When hes talking about "humans" he really means foids. Fuck off you cuck.
 
And just like that, you proved you are a fakecel

I'm a known escortcel, I've made so many threads about it, it should be obvious what I mean, if I could just get 6+/10 asian women in one country and I can get them in basically any country, no need to go to SEA at that point
 
Yes, it's depraved.
 
Bruh... The more I see @FrothySolutions post, the more I think "he's" a foid larper or IT infiltrator. When hes talking about "humans" he really means foids. Fuck off you cuck.
 
If we lived in a perfect world where women knew their place, then prostitution wouldn't be necessary. Sadly, because of hypergamy, many men need that to cope
 
You speak of the concepts as though they are separate from us, we didn't GRASP these concepts, WE CREATED THEM

They don't actually exist, its all in our heads, these concepts don't function like ACTUAL LAWS (gravity, thermodynamics, etc)

They are only as real as much as we enforce them

If I jump off of a tall building I will fall, nobody has to remind me about gravity for me to fall, nobody has to force me to fall, appeal to my emotions to make me fall, etc, I fall because GRAVITY ACTUALLY EXISTS (unlike the concepts and "moral laws" you speak of)

Either way, one should only adhere to those concepts if they are part of the social contract that imbues them with the benefits typical of adherence

Incels are not part of the social contract, there's no logical reason for us to adhere to any of these concepts

I didn't create the concept of cruelty. I'm not saying it's quantifiable in nature, but I don't need anyone to teach me that hurting people is wrong. That's a conclusion we came to because it was self-evident that you owe it to people to be a certain level of good.
 
No. Not even in a traditional, healthy society, let alone in a modern western country.

Don't you have 15 year old "developed" hookers who look like members of 5th Harmony? in Brazil.
 
lawthumping faggots that want everything to be illegal should be shot
 
I don't need anyone to teach me that hurting people is wrong

What do you mean when you say "wrong"?

You say nobody needs to teach you, and that statement shows how much self awareness you lack, because you were brought up in the society you exist in now, where YOU WERE IN FACT TAUGHT, you've just deluded yourself into thinking you are this special being who is inherently good, and no matter where you were born and which values were taught to you, you would JUST KNOW what is wrong and right

If you were raised in a cannibal tribe you'd eat humans without thinking about it

If you were raised among marauders and village raiders way back when raping a woman would be a normal thing to you

Whats "wrong" and "right" is subjective, they aren't absolutes

That's a conclusion we came to because it was self-evident that you owe it to people to be a certain level of good.

Nobody is owed anything
 
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What do you mean when you say "wrong"?

You say nobody needs to teach you, and that statement shows how much self awareness you lack, because you were brought up in the society you exist in now, where YOU WERE IN FACT TAUGHT, you've just deluded yourself into thinking you are this special being who is inherently good, and no matter where you were born and which values were taught to you, you would JUST KNOW what is wrong and right

If you were raised in a cannibal tribe you'd eat humans without thinking about it

If you were raised among marauders and village raiders way back when raping a woman would be a normal thing to you

Whats "wrong" and "right" is subjective, they aren't absolutes



Nobody is owed anything

Of course I was taught things, but even as a boy I didn't need my parents to sit me down and tell me not to hit my sisters. I had empathy for my sisters. I knew what it felt like to be hit, and I didn't want that for people.
 
No. It's the most close an incel can have. It's similar to betabux but you can change/choose the foid.
 
Of course I was taught things, but even as a boy I didn't need my parents to sit me down and tell me not to hit my sisters. I had empathy for my sisters. I knew what it felt like to be hit, and I didn't want that for people.

Empathy is not this deep special absolute thing like you are making it out to be, you have empathy because of your genes, you were born to have empathy, some people's genetics make it so that they can very easily not empathize at all

You think your feelings mean something because its you feeling them but they don't, the lack the ability to disconnect yourself from your experience as a human within your body and look at things objectively

Nothing you are saying deflects from my point, morality is subjective, if a simple difference in genetic makeup can make one person "empathetic" and another person a "sociopath" or "psychopath", then you are ironically arguing that people can be "born evil" or "born wrong" and others "born good" and "born right"

At that point why can't it be argued that Chad being attractive is a moral good, and being physically attractive is a moral trait, why stop at mental outcomes of genetics (lacking empathy), physical should matter too, so every Chad is more moral than you by default

The #1 reason why morality is subjective, IS BECAUSE IT IS DETERMINED BY BIOLOGY

Someone can literally just be born unable to feel the things you feel that make you a "good person", and its outside of their control just as much as their looks,
 
Nah. It should be legalized while also being regulated by the government to restrict the potential for human trafficking and sex slavery. Also it can be taxed like booze, weed and tobacco.
 
Empathy is not this deep special absolute thing like you are making it out to be, you have empathy because of your genes, you were born to have empathy, some people's genetics make it so that they can very easily not empathize at all

You think your feelings mean something because its you feeling them but they don't, the lack the ability to disconnect yourself from your experience as a human within your body and look at things objectively

Nothing you are saying deflects from my point, morality is subjective, if a simple difference in genetic makeup can make one person "empathetic" and another person a "sociopath" or "psychopath", then you are ironically arguing that people can be "born evil" or "born wrong" and others "born good" and "born right"

At that point why can't it be argued that Chad being attractive is a moral good, and being physically attractive is a moral trait, why stop at mental outcomes of genetics (lacking empathy), physical should matter too, so every Chad is more moral than you by default

The #1 reason why morality is subjective, IS BECAUSE IT IS DETERMINED BY BIOLOGY

Someone can literally just be born unable to feel the things you feel that make you a "good person", and its outside of their control just as much as their looks,

If you're talking about having empathy vs. being a psychopath, you're talking about having a normal functioning brain vs. having a developmental disability. Having a difference in chromosomes is a difference in genetic makeup. You can be born without hands. But you should be born with hands. That's healthy. That's the way you should be.
 
I'll let the late great George Carlin answer for me:

"Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal?"

While I've had nothing but negative experiences with escorts, I do believe that sexually-frustrated men should be able to pursue that option without having to worry about being arrested or getting beaten and robbed by pimps.
 
Maybe in a perfect incel society where everyone can get a looksmatch gf and hypergamy is illegal we can talk about it, but for now i prefer it to be legal
 
it should be legal and cheaper. if sex was cheap then we wouldnt be hating femoids here. we would just buy it for 10 usd
Very tricky :feelshehe:

One one hand it gives ugly dudes a chance at having sex :feelshmm:

On the other hand it grants women more power and freedom :feelsree:

it doesnt grand them more power because more women (and men would run more of such businesses) would do it and prices would be much cheaper. if women only power is sex, and we lower its price, then it obviously takes power from them
 
Yes, damn women who sell their body to hell. Since hell doesn't exist, at least make the activity illegal.
 
It's simply doesn't matter.
If you allow it then the price of pussy inflates in the market for prostitutes since there would be always more demand than supply.
If you ban it the price on the black market remains high but now the government and white knights can prosecute and shame guys who go to prostitutes.
Anyways the prostitutes win since the price for their services remains high and we lose.
 
Yes because foids don't serve much purpose in human society except for having sex and raising children so unless we abandon capitalism they should be able to be paid for their services. All forms of work are a way of selling your body to serve the purposes of other. Be it manual labor by lifting objects or assembling things, or sitting in a desk typing keys on a keyboard.
 
JFL at even thinking a world without prostitution can exist.

Even the most conservative women possible use their bodies to catch the richest men they can before having kids. Wanting prostitution to be illegal is completely delusional
 
You can be born without hands. But you should be born with hands. That's healthy. That's the way you should be.

Yes and you can be born not being Chad, but it is optimal for every man to be born Chad just like it is optimal for every man to be born with hands, they'd be stronger and healthier, that's the way is should be, but that's not the way that it is
 
The only chance we have of having sex should not be illegal in any way. For fuck sake.
 
The only chance we have of having sex should not be illegal in any way. For fuck sake.

Because feminists are trying everything to ban men's sexuality to have more power over them with their holes.

Yet there are still Incels who want to make escortcelling illegal knowing this.
 
If we lived in a perfect world where women knew their place, then prostitution wouldn't be necessary. Sadly, because of hypergamy, many men need that to cope
Agreed. The whole point of banning prostitution is to force men into traditional gender roles by making them rely up on a single partner. Women have already been allowed to abdicate their traditional gender roles so there's literally no reason to try to keep men in theirs. At this point the concept of a nuclear family is doomed, and whether or not prostitution is legalized will have no bearing on that unless women miraculously decide to 1950smaxx en large.
 
Morally, I think it should be legal as long as the prostitute is a consenting adult.
 
JFL at incels saying yes to this. For many incels prostitution is the only chance to try sex in this life. Seriously fuck off if you want to take this away. Cucked or not, it's a necessary evil.
 
Yes and you can be born not being Chad, but it is optimal for every man to be born Chad just like it is optimal for every man to be born with hands, they'd be stronger and healthier, that's the way is should be, but that's not the way that it is

There's a difference between optimal and basic. It's basic to have hands. But it'd be nice to have genetics that double your muscle growth. You're not defective if you don't have that though.
 
JFL at incels saying yes to this. For many incels prostitution is the only chance to try sex in this life. Seriously fuck off if you want to take this away. Cucked or not, it's a necessary evil.
 
No, women inherently act like whores regardless, so I'd rather give them the opportunity to do so openly, which also helps open-whores mog subtle-whores.
 
You're not defective if you don't have that though.

Tell that to women and society

To get back to the point though, who is to argue that "empathy" is "basic", all the other animals don't have much of it, were pretty much the only animal who is so influenced by it, our existence is an anomaly on this planet, so isn't it weird to define a trait that only we posses as a "basic/default" trait in biology

If anything its humans who lack empathy that are the "normal" ones and have the "basic" traits nature usually imbues biological creatures with, humans only evolved to have empathy because we created artificial and unatural circumstances and living conditions for ourselves that foster empathy and favors those who are empathetic

Empathy among humans is something unnatual, that only became natural to us, because we basically forced it into being, we bred ourselves into being empathetic
 
I mean is there any other way to sex other than having a girlfriend?
 
Yes because it is cucked. Every men should conquer females with pure brutality.
Nailed in first post.

JFL at the 78,9% of no. Youre basically supporting degeneracy, and giving whores a way to regulate their jobs and have a retirement. I thought this place was less cucked wtf :feelspuke:
 
When hes talking about "humans" he really means foids.
They are not humans, they are humanoids.
Empathy among humans is something unnatual, that only became natural to us, because we basically forced it into being, we bred ourselves into being empathetic
Just lol if you think humans are empathetic at all. Just see all the modern examples about how women want short men dead. Inb4 NAWALT. Nope, NAWALT is a bluepilled slippery slope:
I’ve said this many times before, and as often as I can, especially to hammer into the heads of lurking bluepillers. So I’ll do it again.

when normie make NAWALT arguments like “just find a girl that likes short guys” or “soke girls are really shallow but u just gotta find one that’s not”..apart from the obvious psychological damage control they usually follow up these arguments with, like saying “bro if she rejected u cause ur not tall enough, she’s just shallow and she’s not even worth your time”, they’re making one extraordinary bold claim: that mate choice criteria varies within a species.

Mate choice criteria does NOT vary within a species.

find me one healthy female of one species Who regards the polar opposite of some attractive trait as attractive, and regards the opposite of it unattractive. like one human woman who exclusively loves short men, the shorter the better, and who regards tall men with the same vitriolic hatred and disgust that normal women regard short men with. Such a woman would be seen as mentally defective.

AFAIK no such example exists. The foid with the cripple boyfriend doesn’t count. There’s other psychological issues at work there, and even if there weren’t, notice how she became famous for her very unusual, divergent mate choice.. nobody would tune in if they were looksmatched. More likely than not, it’s just her method of advertising her fertility. Niche fertility advertisement. Gains orbiters and becomes visible to more chads.

The fundamentals of mate choice criteria do not vary. You’d have to re-engineer DNA at the phylum level to achieve that.

“b-but we’re all different unique specimens. God made us, we’re differen5 from animals, were in a category of our own. Natural laws stopped applying to us sometime in the last 50,000 years! Evolution stopped bro! We’re final form! We’re all spiritual and transcendental and shit now...” ... stfu ape while I drop some blackpill truthbombs on u
Also nice #rekt on that cuck Frothy.
 
Nailed in first post.

JFL at the 78,9% of no. Youre basically supporting degeneracy, and giving whores a way to regulate their jobs and have a retirement. I thought this place was less cucked wtf :feelspuke:

Fuck off.

It's not like prostitution was something that all women could or would be willing to do.

And I doubt any of them enjoy doing it. So it's not like that would give them a great opportunity or something. Why do you think it's illegal in the first place ? Part of the reasons is that most women don't want to have to resort to that, ever. So to make sure this won't happen, they voted it illegal.
 
Fuck off.

It's not like prostitution was something that all women could or would be willing to do.

And I doubt any of them enjoy doing it. So it's not like that would give them a great opportunity or something. Why do you think it's illegal in the first place ? Part of the reasons is that most women don't want to have to resort to that, ever. So to make sure this won't happen, they voted it illegal.
Gigacope and donkey IQ. Of course foids want to be prostitutes because is the best way to earn money. How do you even call them woman? They are useless trash, cum receptacles. If you can't control your urges to cum in a roastie go ahead, but don't come here defending woman, is disgusting.
Whores want prostitution to be regulated so they are more safe and will get better conditions. And you want it too because you're a fucking cuck.
:soy::soy::soy::soy::soy::soy::soy:
 
Gigacope and donkey IQ. Of course foids want to be prostitutes because is the best way to earn money. How do you even call them woman? They are useless trash, cum receptacles. If you can't control your urges to cum in a roastie go ahead, but don't come here defending woman, is disgusting.
Whores want prostitution to be regulated so they are more safe and will get better conditions. And you want it too because you're a fucking cuck.
:soy::soy::soy::soy::soy::soy::soy:
So you plan on dying without ever knowing what sex is ?
Whores want prostitution to be regulated so they are more safe and will get better conditions.

In many countries it's prohibited, plain and simple. And we know female votes matter a lot for these matters.
 

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