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Experiment Do you believe you are "entitled" to sex?

Entitled to having sex?


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Can you fill me in, even in a PM, what exactly "doing everything right" refers to? A woman (or man if ur gay) will reject someone's advances for many many reasons, as many reasons as there are individual women in fact, "pretty" or "ugly", not only because of "how you look". Did she tell you that it was because of some physical malady or "ugliness" or whatever?
 
Can you fill me in, even in a PM, what exactly "doing everything right" refers to? A woman (or man if ur gay) will reject someone's advances for many many reasons, as many reasons as there are individual women in fact, "pretty" or "ugly", not only because of "how you look".
Then why will they choose ten chads in a row. But then an ugly guy shows up and gets rejected?
 
Well, this should be a whole other thread, but "what makes an 'ugly man' ugly?" in your estimation? I'm a newbie. Does everybody on this site agree on what "ugly" is? Sorry for being so naive.
 
Well, this should be a whole other thread, but "what makes an 'ugly man' ugly?" in your estimation? I'm a newbie. Does everybody on this site agree on what "ugly" is? Sorry for being so naive.
What makes a man ugly is fucked up maxilla as well as no browbridge, recessed chin, recessed zygos, fucked mandible, non existant ramus.. I can list more and more
 
i dont feel entitled to it but i do think it's a human need like food
 
What makes a man ugly is fucked up maxilla as well as no browbridge, recessed chin, recessed zygos, fucked mandible, non existant ramus.. I can list more and more

And do the women tell you that that is why they will not date you? Because of all of those things? I'm older, but perhaps young people now really are all that obsessed with physical appearances.
 
A human needs 5 things to be happy in live.
Food
A home
Friends/Family
Sleep
and yes sex
The problem is who is going to provide that for us?Nobody makes sure you get food or friends or even sleep.
Sure everyone can have it, but there is no charity for sex. And even if there was people would claim it even if they can get sex
otherwise unlike us which would only have this one way of getting free sex(So we don't pay them like escorts)
 
If necessary, make sure to explain your reason for your choice using the comment section.
 
Sex is important (health/hormonal issues and all that), but it's not a necessity. And nobody is entitled even to necessities, so things that are just important simply don't enter into it. I wish I was entitled to sex, but nobody has a right for others, and that my needs cannot be fulfilled without other people is, while a very unfortunate turn of events, is not other people's problem, as their problems are not mine.
 
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Sex is important (health/hormonal issues and all that), but it's not a necessity. And nobody is entitled even to necessities, so things that are just important simply don't enter into it. I wish I was entitled to sex, but nobody has a right for others, and that my needs cannot be fulfilled without other people is, while a very unfortunate turn of events, is not other people's problem, as their problems are not mine.

I agree.
 
A human needs 5 things to be happy in live.
Food
A home
Friends/Family
Sleep
and yes sex
The problem is who is going to provide that for us?Nobody makes sure you get food or friends or even sleep.
Sure everyone can have it, but there is no charity for sex. And even if there was people would claim it even if they can get sex
otherwise unlike us which would only have this one way of getting free sex(So we don't pay them like escorts)
Housing and food are provided for by the government, so sex should also be provided since men are being taxed the most.
is not other people's problem
It is femoid's problem. Because they use the government to get handouts from men, so men should be able to use the government to get their sexual needs met.
 
Only because ugly girls get laid with ease. and that is not fair and you can't convince me otherwise
 
It is femoid's problem. Because they use the government to get handouts from men, so men should be able to use the government to get their sexual needs met.
Yes, if prostitution is legalized (I hope it is), there should be a charity set up for men, just as there are charities set up for women to suit their needs. But on the personal level, I think nobody is entitled to anything other people have.
BTW, the word is "gynoid".
 
Yes, if prostitution is legalized (I hope it is), there should be a charity set up for men, just as there are charities set up for women to suit their needs. But on the personal level, I think nobody is entitled to anything other people have.
BTW, the word is "gynoid".
Obviously not on a personal level. But femoids still need a lot of their privileges cut before the sexual market stops being rigged in their favor. I made a thread about it here.
https://incels.is/threads/are-you-pro-degeneracy-or-anti-degeneracy-poll.46571/
https://incels.is/threads/which-soc...acy-and-anti-degeneracy-clarified-poll.46871/
 
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Everyone is entitled to sex, but no one owes sex anybody. I go to the gym and I work very hard, while I also read a lot. There is no virtual reason why females wouldn't choose me for mating, but I came to a point that I simply don't care anymore. I won't try again. I'll become powerful and bitches will eventually come.
 
Yes. I am entitled to sex and love.

They are basic human needs.

If every mentally ill faggot out there is entitled to his female hormones or aids treatment why am i not entitled to sex?
 
Entitlement is weird.

Am I entitled to breath oxygen? If so, who is responsible for making sure I get oxygen?

Am I entitled to be provided for by my parents for the first 18 years of my life? Laws now say 'yes', but for most of human history that wouldn't be so.

If I work a job am I entitled to compensation? The laws say yes, but the rules of the jungle say you only have what you take. Maybe we're foolish to think laws will entitle us to anything.

Am I entitled to sex? Well, the majority of people get to enjoy it. It's all but essential for human happiness. We were all led to believe that finding a mate and having children could be a part of our lives. Should that mean we're entitled to it?

I don't think of it in terms of entitlement, because I know no one will give me what I want. And I do want sex. Oh yes.

I'll get sex by hook or by crook. All I care about is myself, and the ends justify the means.
 
I believe everyone is entitled to sex.
 
Sex should be declared a basic human right.
 
I am not entitled to sex, I am just entitled to not being treated like garbage.
 
Whether or not you are technically "entitled" is not an important question. The concepts of "owing", "ownership" and "entitlement" are just tools society uses to maximize overall happiness of the people. For example, knowing that you have legal recourse if someone steals your stuff gives people a sense of comfort.

We live in a society that says men are never entitled to sex, and that a man can only have sex if there is a woman that finds him attractive and wants to have sex with him, and society will do absolutely nothing to help a man find a partner if he is not attractive. This is stupid, and results in a large number of men living lonely and depressed lives. Society would be much happier if men were guaranteed a wife, at the expense of women's freedom to pick their partners. In our current society men are not entitled to sex, but this needs to change.
 
No, because the term 'entitled' isn't appropriate for incel discussion. Sex is not a privilege or special treatment. It's something that happens with two people who are physically attracted to each other.

What normalshits don't understand is that by simply using terms like entitled, they're admitting that sex is a special privilege... for an ugly incel that nobody is attracted to.
 
I'm more in the no one is entitled to anything camp. Love, friendship, compassion, understanding. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

also what Grotesque said above me.
 
Yeah, but that's what is called a mixed metaphor. That second scenario rarely if ever occurs in reality.

I don't think it is a mixed metaphor at all. Exaggerated for comedy, but not complete nonsense. Yea, the scenario is pretty rare, but so are true incels.
 
Anyone who uses the word "entitled" unironically should burn in hell for all eternity.
 
i am rightfully owed government sanctioned euthanasia
 
I wouldn't risk polluting the gene pool with my looks and mental illness.
 
We are entitled to sex but we can't have it. Kind of like starving African children.
 
If men are shamed and labeled entitled for desiring sex and relationships then women should he shamed and labeled as entitled for desiring onlt high value males irrespective of their own value.
 
No, because the term 'entitled' isn't appropriate for incel discussion. Sex is not a privilege or special treatment. It's something that happens with two people who are physically attracted to each other.

What normalshits don't understand is that by simply using terms like entitled, they're admitting that sex is a special privilege... for an ugly incel that nobody is attracted to.

Yeah entitled is a dumb word in this context but I'm going to roll with it. I don't think that everyone is necessarily entitled to sex, but there's certainly people who deserve sex and don't get it i.e. they are good people making contributions to society/ an effort to be socially acceptable, but then get fucked over by femoid hypergamy.

Absolute subhumans don't deserve any so some of us are fucked anyway. Apart from that it's like the number one human prerogative to pass on your genome so it is basically a necessity/ entitlement. Not from any specific person though, just in general.
 
If every mentally ill faggot out there is entitled to his female hormones or aids treatment why am i not entitled to sex?
It's unbelievable the cucked government forces us to pay for all that shit or send us to jail. America the free my ass.
 
I really wanna see the opinions of users in this forum regarding this most common argument thrown out by cucktears.

I am no more entitled to sex than a starving man is to a meal if he's without the means to acquire one. Were I entitled to a sexual relationship I would be engaged in one, wouldn't I be? One is only entitled to love if he is lovable, only entitled to be desired if he's desirable. Without these qualities the only thing I'm entitled to is loneliness and frustration, just as our hapless starving man is only entitled to the hunger pangs wracking his belly.

The problem when it comes to entitlement and discussions regarding the involuntarily celibate in relation to it is that we've forgotten what to be entitled to something actually means. The idea that there are inalienable rights each person deserves to enjoy simply because they were born human is a comforting fiction, an angel we've constructed with happy dreams and empathy to stand between the orderly cosmos we like to believe we inhabit and the forces of Chaos that are always threatening to tear it asunder.

If that angel was to extinguish its fiery sword and step aside, we would be forced to acknowledge the harsh truth that the hungry man isn't entitled to that meal if he's unable to procure it, the disabled individual not entitled to the the assistance that artificially prolongs his life, the unemployed woman to the social programs that allow her to feed her children.

Nature is, when all is said and done, brutal in Her lack of mercy. We human beings, on the other hand, are not. As a uniquely social animal, we've developed the capacity for empathy. This doesn't necessarily mean we're good; it's the sadist's ability to recognize the pain of his victims that makes the cruelties he inflicts so enjoyable to him. What it does mean is that we recoil in horror when we look upon our dread Mother's unadorned face and are willing to go to great lengths in a desperate attempt to beautify Her. We feed the poor, we support the weak, we minister to the sick all the while convincing ourselves those receiving such charity are actually entitled to these good things. This is how we sustain the happy illusion that the world is inherently good, this is the morphia we employ to prolong enlightened civilization's happy dream.

However, it's fundamentally impossible to extend to the incel the same type of charity we offer to those others cheated by Nature. Though we can offer food to the hungry and treat those afflicted with illness, it is beyond our means to make the ugly beautiful. We are no more than capable of making a truly repulsive man an object of desire than we are silencing the music of the spheres and dragging the stars from the firmament.

As such, we authentically ugly monsters are reminders of Nature's essential cruelty. There's no food capable of filling our stomachs, no balm existing to soothe our wounds, no prayer with the power to drive our devils out. When we cry out in agony, there's nothing anyone can give us to quell our moans. No state-sponsored program utilizing legal prostitution, no artificial mate no matter how lifelike it may be, will change the fact no human woman actually desires us. There is no charity one can donate to that may some day find a solution to our problem, no well-spring of justifiable hope that can wash away our stain and make the world completely beautiful again. Our cries of misery are the collective voice of Chaos, the howls of the damned that pollute songs sung in Heaven with discord. We creatures that Nature is ashamed to have created are the parasitic vines strangling the Tree of Life.

This is the actual reason our complaints are so offensive to the happy and the healthy. It's not that we feel entitled to love that our enemies object to. Rather, it's the simple fact we recognize we aren't entitled to sexual affection but refuse to suffer in silence. They would prefer we accept our situation happily, smiling sweetly with our malformed lips as we languish in loneliness and sexual frustration. Our detractors despise the fact that we freaks, having been banished to Nature's filthiest sideshow, are weeping rather than singing behind the panes of glass that separate us from their pleasant daylight world.

Never forget that every time someone indignantly shrieks that an incel is "entitled" that person is trying to rob a monster of one of the few things he actually is entitled to, something he has authentically earned and the closest thing an abomination has to a human soul: his pain.
 
Applying the way I usually think about "entitlements", I'd have to say no.

Were I deserted on an island, I would have my private property and speech, and so I'd say those are rights and I'm entitled to that and denying me that otherwise is inhumane.

But sex? Apart from masturbation, I wouldn't have sex on my deserted island and so I can't really say it's a right or that I'm entitled.

Yet, is sex (or the feelings that come from it) a basic human need like the need to be part of a community, to be valued, to matter? Absolutely.
 
Yes I think every human being should have access to it.
 
Idgaf if not having sex takes years off my life. I drink and eat bacon which is just as bad
I care about not being constantly stressed by bullying, insecurity and hardships
I would give pretty much everything just to be loved and accepted by someone. Forcing it doesn't work tho
So no I'm not entitled to sex or love and none of you degenerates are
 
from the sluthate wiki:

"Involuntary celibacy or incel is the product of "virgin + entitlement". There you go. Essentially these people feel like the world owes them sexual favours despite nobody owing them anything."

I'd agree with this, at least for incels who believe that they are owed sex. I think there is some room for nuance though, because companionship is practically a necessity people need, and it's brutally unfair how certain people are handed it thanks to their face, height, and race. There's no real honesty from bluepillers that some people are just unfuckable because of their looks or low status, because that would require them to be honest with themselves and with you, like literally say to your face that you don't deserve love in your life because of how you were born. The entire reason people mock incels is because they practice the just world fallacy on them. Would you say a homeless person deserves to be homeless? No, but for some reason it's ok to make fun of incels despite in both cases being a victim of circumstances.

I don't want to terrorize other people just because I can't get laid. Their problems aren't mine. I just wish things were different. Nobody wants to be born genetic cannon fodder and live the rest of their lives watching other people get into relationships and experience women and intimacy while you don't get jack shit except your hand for 20-odd years.
I am no more entitled to sex than a starving man is to a meal if he's without the means to acquire one. Were I entitled to a sexual relationship I would be engaged in one, wouldn't I be? One is only entitled to love if he is lovable, only entitled to be desired if he's desirable. Without these qualities the only thing I'm entitled to is loneliness and frustration, just as our hapless starving man is only entitled to the hunger pangs wracking his belly.

The problem when it comes to entitlement and discussions regarding the involuntarily celibate in relation to it is that we've forgotten what to be entitled to something actually means. The idea that there are inalienable rights each person deserves to enjoy simply because they were born human is a comforting fiction, an angel we've constructed with happy dreams and empathy to stand between the orderly cosmos we like to believe we inhabit and the forces of Chaos that are always threatening to tear it asunder.

If that angel was to extinguish its fiery sword and step aside, we would be forced to acknowledge the harsh truth that the hungry man isn't entitled to that meal if he's unable to procure it, the disabled individual not entitled to the the assistance that artificially prolongs his life, the unemployed woman to the social programs that allow her to feed her children.

Nature is, when all is said and done, brutal in Her lack of mercy. We human beings, on the other hand, are not. As a uniquely social animal, we've developed the capacity for empathy. This doesn't necessarily mean we're good; it's the sadist's ability to recognize the pain of his victims that makes the cruelties he inflicts so enjoyable to him. What it does mean is that we recoil in horror when we look upon our dread Mother's unadorned face and are willing to go to great lengths in a desperate attempt to beautify Her. We feed the poor, we support the weak, we minister to the sick all the while convincing ourselves those receiving such charity are actually entitled to these good things. This is how we sustain the happy illusion that the world is inherently good, this is the morphia we employ to prolong enlightened civilization's happy dream.

However, it's fundamentally impossible to extend to the incel the same type of charity we offer to those others cheated by Nature. Though we can offer food to the hungry and treat those afflicted with illness, it is beyond our means to make the ugly beautiful. We are no more than capable of making a truly repulsive man an object of desire than we are silencing the music of the spheres and dragging the stars from the firmament.

As such, we authentically ugly monsters are reminders of Nature's essential cruelty. There's no food capable of filling our stomachs, no balm existing to soothe our wounds, no prayer with the power to drive our devils out. When we cry out in agony, there's nothing anyone can give us to quell our moans. No state-sponsored program utilizing legal prostitution, no artificial mate no matter how lifelike it may be, will change the fact no human woman actually desires us. There is no charity one can donate to that may some day find a solution to our problem, no well-spring of justifiable hope that can wash away our stain and make the world completely beautiful again. Our cries of misery are the collective voice of Chaos, the howls of the damned that pollute songs sung in Heaven with discord. We creatures that Nature is ashamed to have created are the parasitic vines strangling the Tree of Life.

This is the actual reason our complaints are so offensive to the happy and the healthy. It's not that we feel entitled to love that our enemies object to. Rather, it's the simple fact we recognize we aren't entitled to sexual affection but refuse to suffer in silence. They would prefer we accept our situation happily, smiling sweetly with our malformed lips as we languish in loneliness and sexual frustration. Our detractors despise the fact that we freaks, having been banished to Nature's filthiest sideshow, are weeping rather than singing behind the panes of glass that separate us from their pleasant daylight world.

Never forget that every time someone indignantly shrieks that an incel is "entitled" that person is trying to rob a monster of one of the few things he actually is entitled to, something he has authentically earned and the closest thing an abomination has to a human soul: his pain.

Well written, do you by chance frequency /r9k/? I think I've seen some of your posts there a few years ago too.
 
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What was the ban for?
 
If men are shamed and labeled entitled for desiring sex and relationships then women should he shamed and labeled as entitled for desiring onlt high value males irrespective of their own value.
 
No. The anti-incels have no understanding of the depth of our positions on this matter.
 
It's a basic human need me thinks. Its very important for females to give out sex in order to keep social unrest to a minimal in Bonobo societies. I think we're more closer to Bonobo than Gorilla's or pan chimpanzee in our sexual structures.

I think Male human's are no different to Bonobo: we need sex to feel productive, liked, desirable. Males go insane or become radicalized if your treated like a leper but have no mental retardation or physical disabilities, just beta-looking.
 
Not with a particular person. But engineering society to starve men of sex will only result in desolation and destruction
 

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