Do you think it's wrong to shame sluts and chads because if you were them you'd do the same, even though it's ruining the lives of many men and making society shit?
can't decide
one of the problems is that people can't agree on the definition of degeneracy.
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Traditional family values must be restored or we lose that game. I'm against degeneracy in every possible way.
But sluts may become prostitutes, they've always been here, nothing wrong with them.
But sluts may become prostitutes, they've always been here, nothing wrong with them.
Degeneracy to me is making society unstable and causing suffering for no valid reason.
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Yeah, we must finally make a conclusion what do we count as degeneracy and what not. Incels council, that's hell of an idea.
This. If you're a slut anyway and no man will marry you, might as well be a hooker to make a living. Only the women with self control will be wives.
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Also Chads can live their lives, as they did before. There must be propaganda for marriage, but if man don't want to marry a single, faithful and beautiful virgin girl, well, can't force him to do. So, all Chads will simply become brothel's regular customers, simple as that. Ideal world, everybody lives peacefuly, nobody is oppressed. Women will be happy with return of patriarchy and all traditional values.
Im against normalizing degeneracy. If you want to fuck a goat or french kiss your waifu pillow..do whatever u want..but dont start thinking its a normal sane thing to do.
Perfect solution. Too bad the greedy bitches want their cake and eat it too, they want to all be sluts and still be able to get married. Lol, fuck that cuck shit.
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Well, i offer two ways about greedy bitches so far. They have to go through some sort of mental therapy first, because they are clearly not okay, and then, once they're all distributed among various whorehouses, we must declare their privileges, as they must have some. Something like it was organized in Japan not so long time ago.
Everything what is left for them is accept their new profession, and being fucked by Chads, who, as i previously mention would be regular customers, so, i belive it would make the world better for everyone.
It's the feminist sluts who want to contaminate all the virgins with chad dick so they can keep cucking men and making incels. The reason why men should be able to visit whores and have virgin wives at the same time is because usually men are the breadwinners, and women also like men who are sexually experienced. That's the way nature intended in order to have an optimal society with almost no incels, while everyone is free to do what they want if they choose to deal with the consequences.
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Right, femoidism must be considered as some form of heavy mentall illness, because femoidists are objectively delusional, and don't understand the world they live in. We must treat them accordingly. Also femoidist "ideology" (they don't have any, their "equality" is bullshit) must be banned.
Only the cucks in power run with their delusional bullshit because it benefits them.
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Yet doesn't benefit anyone else, so they must go away. It makes most of the people unhappy, not only us. Lefties did their job. Ruined everything. Time for them to leave now.
Pro-Degeneracy, Anti-Women's-Rights
i would help the "weaker" ala looking like trash ones, if i was chad just bc im not inhuman but seeing how niceness is looked down upon i sadly need to trash him
Those small percentage of men can fuck themselves for all I care. We're not their toys for them to play with so they can remain on top and in control.
Who said niceness is looked down on? Helping incels is a good thing. Being "nice" to femoids is only bad when you're cucking yourself or others.
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While it'd be fun to engage in degeneracy, I understand that it is ultimately bad for society.
If you're pro-degeneracy as a sub6 and paying taxes to fund the rostie's and chad's degeneracy, you're pretty much lubing up your looksmatch for chad to fuck her. Those whores need to be shamed as well as the cucks who sit back and do nothing, and even enabling the rosties to cuck them.
Nooooo!
Degeneracy for all! I just want every dude to look great, every woman to look great, and just have non-stop orgies.
I love the idea of having sex with tons of beautiful women, but the idea of a relationship makes me wanna die! I've never slut-shamed any girl, I just want to be a part of the action!
We're slabs of meat slapping against each other... and that is enough for me.
Degeneracy for all! I just want every dude to look great, every woman to look great, and just have non-stop orgies.
I love the idea of having sex with tons of beautiful women, but the idea of a relationship makes me wanna die! I've never slut-shamed any girl, I just want to be a part of the action!
We're slabs of meat slapping against each other... and that is enough for me.
There can be prostitutes if you don't want a virgin wife. Plus, there's no way we can all look good, if there was then I'd agree with you, but that's impossible until shape shifting is invented.
Yeaaaah.... I guess.
I don't pay taxes & I hate monogamy, so really there's no downside to degeneracy even if I don't get to participate. Well, the only downside is the buckets of envy I emit every day!
I'm not into prostitution. Now, this is going to sound weird and get me called a cuck, but probably the most exciting part of sex for me is giving the girl sexual pleasure. And I really, truly hate women. So I have no idea why giving a girl incredible orgasms is so pleasurable to me... must be something hard-wired into the ol' noggin.
But if I had the means I would fuck hookers. I don't have money, and it's against the law and dangerous yadda yadda yadda...
Both are bad in concept. Excessive hedonism and degeneracy inevitably leads to the breakdown of society, but anti-degeneracy allows subhumans to overpopulate with unfit genetics which is obviously disastrous for the future.
Strict monogamy and eugenics without the allowance of overpopulation is ideal
Strict monogamy and eugenics without the allowance of overpopulation is ideal
TRUECELS ARE ANTI DEGENERATES!! WE ARE PROPHETS ON EARTH! ANGELS ON HEAVEN! LT ME CLEANSE THIS THREAD OF FILTH WITH A PRAYER.
IN THE NAME OF CHAD, STACY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
. From the snares of the degenerates and normies,
. Deliver us, O Chad.
. That Thy TEMPLe may serve Thee in peace and liberty:
. We beseech Thee to hear us.
. That Thou may crush down all enemies of Thy 1ST FUNDAMENTALIST INCEL TEMPLE:
. We beseech Thee to hear us.
IN THE NAME OF CHAD, STACY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
. From the snares of the degenerates and normies,
. Deliver us, O Chad.
. That Thy TEMPLe may serve Thee in peace and liberty:
. We beseech Thee to hear us.
. That Thou may crush down all enemies of Thy 1ST FUNDAMENTALIST INCEL TEMPLE:
. We beseech Thee to hear us.
Anti-Degeneracy, but the more they ramp up the degeneracy/lunacy the better. The only way there will be any change is if it all falls apart. Sadly this wont be in our lifetime.
Anti. The rise of inceldom is due to degeneracy stemming form a loss of Judeo-Christian morals. Back in the day, any Joe Blow could get a GF easily, because women had uninflated SMVs and NEEDED men to survive (as it should be).
Causing yourself to be incel is a very big downside to degeneracy. You can give a virgin wife lots of pleasure even if you're sub6 as long as you're her first, and society would shame her if she cheated on you with chad.
I'm neutral on if they get pleasure from me having sex with them, that's why I don't mind paying to fuck prostitutes who aren't attracted to me because they've been used up by chad dick.
Even in a traditional monogamous society I would not be partnered up. I'm a fucking mess of an irresponsible loser. I don't meet the bare minimum.
"unfit genes" don't matter as long as we have technology. That's why femoids don't want the biggest and strongest anymore, they just want the prettiest.
You can stick with the hookers in a non-degenerate society. You can give them pleasure if you looksmax, and they might even let you fuck them for free or at a discount.
If you consider consensual sex between two adults to fit with that definition then you are incorrectly analysing the situation. You can’t consider jealousy among the sexually disenfranchised as evidence that the behaviour of the sexually active counts as “degeneracy” simply because it causes suffering in the eyes of the jealous. Otherwise you would have to consider anything that might make someone else jealous ”degeneracy” because it is causes them (from their perspective) unnecessary suffering. It would amount to total redistribution of not only sex but wealth, food, resources etc. That’s why I believe that definition of degeneracy doesn’t make sense when applied to sexual behaviour, because you can’t count jealousy as “suffering for no valid reason”. The reason is that if you restrict sexual freedom then you are making a larger portion of the population suffer solely for the reason of not making the incels jealous. Is being rich then not considered “degeneracy” because it may provoke suffering in the form of jealousy from poor people? Having anything good may be considered degenerate (by your definition) as it can provoke jealousy and thus suffering in the eyes of another.
You have to see where it's coming from. If it's because of unfair treatment then it must be stopped. If you get "jealous" of chad because you are getting waged cucked and forced to pay rosties through the system, and femoids get unearned privileges that allow them to out compete with men in the sexual market, then there is cheating at play that must be stopped because it is unfair. Like femoid work quotas, government support, cucked divorce laws, cucked domestic violence laws, cucked rape laws, etc...We are not "jealous," we are being wronged in case you haven't been reading through these threads. We just want to make things fair again.
I'm not for restricting sexual freedom, a woman can either be a virgin and get married, or be a slut and be a prostitute. Cucks shouldn't be allowed to marry prostitutes, or have them looked heavily down upon and shamed for marrying chad dick hungry sluts.
Someone being a millionaire and having a yacht doesn't cause men to suffer. Men not being able to have sex IS suffering.
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I think you will find though, telling people who they can and can’t have sex with will produce suffering on a larger scale. In my opinion freedom is sacresanct and though I find it unfortunate that the freedom of people to choose sexual partners may leave incels to suffer alone on the periphery, if I am being truly objective and viewing the problem from an unbiased perspective then I cannot justify the implementation of a system that would, in effect, force women into relationships with incels against their will. Incels often stress that they only want one partner to love, well this idea of coercing women into a relationship by limiting their options just doesn’t equal love to me and the suffering of incels is an unfortunate but unavoidable byproduct of the sexual freedom enjoyed by modern society. I don’t think things were better 100 years ago when societal pressure meant you had to stay in a grey loveless marriage until bitter death instead of getting a divorce and moving on to other people. If you enforced a system where women’s only option was to marry incels then all these marriages would be grey, loveless and bitter and you would have only increased the amount of suffering in the world.
I'm anti degeneracy. I don't care about ifs and buts because I'm not a Chad or a Stacy and I never will be. I want them all to suffer.
How about the men who are forced to settle for femoids way below their looksmatch? Taking away female entitlements and unearned privileges isn't coercion, it's fair to men. If men had unearned privileges then they would be spoiled brats too only wanting to marry the top stacys, even though they're 3's.
I'm not ok with being cucked by the fucked up laws and stupid bluepillers making our lives miserable. As long as everyone is woke, and men aren't cucks, then things will go as I outlined. Prostitutes will just be used for men's batting practice, and the good women who don't want to end up like the prostitutes will control their hypergamy and marry a man who will provide for them. So I'm essentially anti-cuckdom and anti-brainwashing and anti-restricting men and pro-removing female privileges.
it doesn't matter, females aren't going to stop fucking chads because some neetcel on a website they don't even know exists calls them a slut.
That's why one isn't enough. They are trying to censor and shut us down for a reason. They know they will lose their privileges and they will lose their victim hood status and pussy passes.
I'm anti degeneracy just because I want to ruin the fun of Chads and Stacies. Otherwise I wouldn't care, not like there's anything particularly immoral in what they do to each other.
But you have to look at if they get to do those things at the unfair expense of others. There isn't anything wrong with being a millionaire and buying nice things, but you have to think about if they got that money fairly.
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I seriously admire your honesty in this statement and I actually think that most anti-degenerate incels are exactly the same as you, although they contrive the belief into some convoluted ideological argument where “degeneracy” is morally wrong even though really it’s just a gut instinct of jealousy and bitterness for being unable to partake in the practice of it themselves. I.e. “I can’t have it so it must be wrong”. It’s far more honest to admit there is nothing inherently wrong about it objectively, whilst still admitting you want it eradicated because it provokes unbearable jealousy.
Chad is meant to have as many offspring with as many females as possible. This way the incels don't get to produce more depressed incel offspring. Fuck letting anyone else have the same fate as me.
Let the Chad genes live and the incel genes die.
Let the Chad genes live and the incel genes die.
Being able to choose sexual partners is not an unearned privilege though, it’s a unilateral freedom. Unfortunately because women are by nature more hypergamous this freedom suits them better, but it is still a more favourable system for the majority than if it were limited purely for the purpose of providing incels with a mate. That being said, as an incel I understand why you would want to fight your own corner as you don’t really have a choice in the matter. I don’t see though how you can argue that society would be a better place if it were catered to the needs of incels instead of the normie masses, as cels are by and large a minority.
I don't care that I don't have a yacht or a mansion. Sex is a basic need. Worse thing is the cucked society and bluepill brainwashing that is making things unfair. You seem like you're happy the gynocentric government and brainwashed numales are in control. I don't know why you're on here if you are against shaming sluts and cucks who enable their whoredom.
Incels might be a minority, but you have to include volcels and normies who aren't sexually satisfied with the crumbs they get. If you think female hypergamy is more important than society being uncucked then jfl.
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Because I am intellectually honest with myself and can see that if I were born in the body of a Chad then I would not favour sexual restriction because it would limit my freedom and my beliefs are based principles not self-serving logical fallacy. If everyone only advocated what was best for them in a society things would break down, so you have to be consistent in your ideology no matter what body you happen to have been born with. Sex is a basic need but one that requires reciprocation from another party and therefore cannot be legislated for in the name of freedom. I am here because I stand against bullying and purposeful causation of suffering against others, which is a far more apt rendition of your own definition of “degeneracy” in my opinion. I hate the unnecessary suffering in the world just as much as you, though I just think we are being unscrupulous and self serving when we stand against people expressing themselves sexually just because they can do what we can’t and labelling them degenerate for doing so merely exhibits this self-serving mentality and makes incel a look even more kooky and unsympathetic in the eyes of normies. I believe that incels are deserving of sympathy because they are born into a low position in a hierarchical structure, though that changing the structure to incorporate them doesn’t actually solve anything. It’s all genetics and you’ve either won or lost before you’ve even drawn your first breath. It’s totally predetermined.
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Even chads and stacys make incels. There's no way the incel gene can die. Plus incels can be geniuses and are just as important as any fat and ugly rostie bitch. The only genes femoids want is the prettiest, that's not really important for the future, and why do you care about the future anyway, not like you'll be in it.
If chad is meant to fuck as many femoids as possible and impregnate them, who will raise his kids? Your tax money of course. That is literally you being in favor of society cucking you.
You can also say that about being born as a slave master. You'll be in favor of slavery if you were on the slave master side. The government giving femoids unfair privileges at our expense is the same as slavery, and it leads to us being depressed incels who are unproductive to society.
It also takes reciprocation to give charity, but if men are forced to give 30% of their income every year to fund the system that is giving unfair privileges to femoids and cucking them, then they are right to be angry and stop feeding the degeneracy.
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"Anti-degeneracy" would imply a return to the time when marriage was considered to be something more than a love ritual but rather an improvement of both material situation and social standing, which would inevitably lead to it being a thing of planning rather that romantic whim as it is today. You just going to build a society where genetically superior mans and womans would have their privilege materialised in a very real way, gathering into aristocratic societies where no 9 to 5 burger flipper, sub 8 incel is allowed. Unless you're at least an ER-tier baller, you would have zero potential for a stable marriage because all daughter-owning families would be aiming for dosh-packed Chads to leech of profits and cred their marriage would grant them.
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