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Cannibalistic Humanoid Untermensch Destroyer
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exactly. this (hard determinism) is one of the two core tenets of the blackpill,Free will does not exist. Your just the result of a long line of cause and effect.
animals commit suicide too. depression as a whole is a biological mechanism to prevent untERmenschen from procreating similar to bullying/cacophobia if you will.I think that suicide kinda proves it. There is no biological or physical reason to do it, actually, your brain kinda tries its best to stop you from doing it, but people still do it. Isn't that free will?
Well said, your life is determined by your shitty limited options and opportunities.There is no such thing as free will, Your forced to go places ever since born that doesnt match up to what you really need to know to be ready for life!
according to religioncuck doctrine evERything is gods will.View attachment 743852
question to these dudes. do you think all this anti-god, satanist, tranny, fag stuff is god's will? xD
es i think it's real even tho sometimes strongly influenced by either culture or biological impulses
DisagreeFree will does not exist. Your just the result of a long line of cause and effect.
Free will does not exist. Your just the result of a long line of cause and effect.
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question to these dudes. do you think all this anti-god, satanist, tranny, fag stuff is god's will? xD
^fakecel + didn't add me. thought you were my friendView attachment 743852
question to these dudes. do you think all this anti-god, satanist, tranny, fag stuff is god's will? xD
Who is you? It sounds like you think that your sense of self goes beyond your physical brainLowest iq replies imaginable. I figured this one out as a kid. You never make a decision that your brain doesnt deem to be best.
Try to purposely make the wrong choice. You only did that causs you knew you were playing this game, so the wrong choice become the best choice all things considered. You always do what your brain dictates as best.
Also, put yourself in a survival situation. Theres no fucking around, you perform or you die. There is no "picking" between 2 possibilities you do what seems most logical for the moment cause you dont wanna die. The illusion of free will only comes up in mentally ill times where no decision really matters anyways so the distinction between the right and wrong decision is blurred which creates mental illness delusion about muh free willLowest iq replies imaginable. I figured this one out as a kid. You never make a decision that your brain doesnt deem to be best.
Try to purposely make the wrong choice. You only did that causs you knew you were playing this game, so the wrong choice become the best choice all things considered. You always do what your brain dictates as best.
irrelevant reference to the concept of souls. Doesnt relate to the crux of my argumentWho is you? It sounds like you think that your sense of self goes beyond your physical brain
Says replies are low iq. Alleges that he figured the question of free will as a kid.Lowest iq replies imaginable. I figured this one out as a kid.
says the 28 post graycelSays replies are low iq. Alleges that he figured the question of free will as a kid.
You didn't figure out shit.
Having a soul doesnt mean you dont do what you deem the best course of action at any point in time. You always do what is deemed best, all things considered. Why wouldnt you. So its irrelevant if souls exist or notI don't think it is irrelevant, because what does free will imply? I think it implies that we would somehow be higher than the physical world. Because if we were just deterministic and maybe to a small extent probabilistic machines like a biological cell. Then it is already clear that we can not have free will.
Id like to hear your thoughts on the subject then, graycelSays replies are low iq. Alleges that he figured the question of free will as a kid.
You didn't figure out shit.
I'm saying free will could only potentially be possible if we had a supernatural soul.Having a soul doesnt mean you dont do what you deem the best course of action at any point in time. You always do what is deemed best, all things considered. Why wouldnt you. So its irrelevant if souls exist or not
It isn't a completely individual/moral choice though. Lots of suicide happen because the person feels like a burden or that they aren't wanted. And it might be true. In this case there is an external factor and it can't be seen as a purely individual choice.I think that suicide kinda proves it. There is no biological or physical reason to do it, actually, your brain kinda tries its best to stop you from doing it, but people still do it. Isn't that free will?
yeah maybe. All i know is you cant weigh 2 decisions and all things considered purposely make the worse decision. Even if it was "well i love life but i will chooseto commit suicide to prove you wrong!" well our little game prompted you to kill yourself so actually you made the best decision all things consideredI'm saying free will could only potentially be possible if we had a supernatural soul.
If we did not, then free will is impossible.
With other words, let A be the statement: we have free will.
Let B be the statement: we have a supernatural soul.
I'm saying: Lets suppose A is true. Then A => B.
So the people who think A is true, will also have to accept B.
The implication depends on our current scientific knowledge I think, so we cant be sure if it holds. Or maybe you could proof it somehow idk. I'm very tired right now so I might not make a lot of sense.
Since you asked nicely.Id like to hear your thoughts on the subject then, graycel
To elaborate on this, if you believe that you have the ability to make independent choices, that you can actually supersede your own biological drives and the environment around you to any extent, even to the smallest extent, this means that you believe in something that can’t actually be proven by science but that you’re still living every single day. And the notion that you have that will, and not only that you have that will but that will is capable of comprehending the universe around you, that your ideas, the fact that you can comprehend the universe is a reflection of a reality, of an objective truth that is out there... That says to me that there is a God, a common source that stands behind that objective truth and stands behind the mind that can comprehend that truth.Furthermore, I believe that free will is what proves that a God exists.
So NPC theory.Not for most people. Only I and a select few other people have free will.
So it's technically yes I guess?
so this was hard to read and not in a high iq way but what you are saying is i think i have free will therefore i do. Ok go ahead and present yourself with 2 options to choose from and i want you to choose the worse of the 2 then i want you to come back and say that the "worse" option was truly worse all things considered and you didnt do it to prove a point or anythingSince you asked nicely.
In my opinion, if you believe that human beings are just balls of meat wandering around aimlessly in the universe, the kind of Spinoza’s stone that thinks that it was moving on its own accord but actually was thrown, then you do not acknowledge that there is something beyond the purely material that allows us to have the capacity to choose. To me, that doesn't make sense.
To elaborate on this, if you believe that you have the ability to make independent choices, that you can actually supersede your own biological drives and the environment around you to any extent, even to the smallest extent, this means that you believe in something that can’t actually be proven by science but that you’re still living every single day. And the notion that you have that will, and not only that you have that will but that will is capable of comprehending the universe around you, that your ideas, the fact that you can comprehend the universe is a reflection of a reality, of an objective truth that is out there... That says to me that there is a God, a common source that stands behind that objective truth and stands behind the mind that can comprehend that truth.
That's not what I'm saying at all. Interesting that you are unable to comprehend what I'm saying here, considering that you "figured out the answer to free will when you're a kid".so this was hard to read and not in a high iq way but what you are saying is i think i have free will therefore i do. Ok go ahead and present yourself with 2 options to choose from and i want you to choose the worse of the 2 then i want you to come back and say that the "worse" option was truly worse all things considered and you didnt do it to prove a point or anything
instinct is a feeling. Those creatures are "conscious" i think but on a lower level becsuse their brain capacity is tiny. We have big complex brain that can do more with our feelings not just feel pain. We use our feelings to "think". Thats why kids start counting on their fingers they have to feel the concept of numbers before that feeling of what a number is gets internalized in their heads that they can do mental math. The math calculation is also based on feelings. By feelings i dont solely mean happy, sad, etc but also touch, sight.If we don't have free will then I think there's no reason to have consciousness, otherwise why aren't we just big ants moving about purely on instinct?
Dude your post reads like a drunken rambling. I think youre an edgy teenager. Its your job to make your posts coherent to the nonmentally ill publicThat's not what I'm saying at all. Interesting that you are unable to comprehend what I'm saying here, considering that you "figured out the answer to free will when you're a kid".
If I learned one thing is that almost nobody will tell you what you really need to know, especially not other people or fucking school.There is no such thing as free will, Your forced to go places ever since born that doesnt match up to what you really need to know to be ready for life!
Free will is a complex theme to discuss. If you are unable to understand basic thoughts on it and wish to discuss it in a simplistic way, find people who are on your iq level and do not ask me questions again. It seems my way of discussing it is way out of your league.Dude your post reads like a drunken rambling. I think youre an edgy teenager. Its your job to make your posts coherent to the nonmentally ill public
My dad was an ass, I rather would like a brotherIf I learned one thing is that almost nobody will tell you what you really need to know, especially not other people or fucking school.
If you are really, really lucky you may have a dad who tells you what you need to know about life.
This world is hell, never forget that