Do I leave islam?

[ManOfVengeance]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Do you feel like you still believe in God?

 

[ManOfVengeance]

Do you feel like you still believe in God?

I don't know, seeing the unfairness in this world I truly do not know.
I've questioned if this is what god has intended for me, that I must not bare or sleep with any foid because he must have something in plan for me as one of his most mighty soldiers.
But that cope was burnt out like a flame, I have a satanic associate who I may relate to and I hold no hate towards him.
If anything he is one of the most who understand me, both he and I are the most alike.

 

[ManOfVengeance]

I don't like muslim women they piss me off and they're is no difference between them and non muslim kafir women.
The muslim bitches are self righteous skank fucking pieces of shit, they're the exact same as kafir foids but with excess arrogance.
What the fuck, why aren't they being punished by the muslim man.

Have my wife (if I had one) said such a preposterous thing to me I'd have beated her senseless but their foul mouths are enabled and sometimes even seen as "empowering" by these "progressive" muslims.

 

[Jimb0]

yes nigga, you'll see how much more sense the world makes when neither Allah or Vishnu or Santa Claus or whatever the fuck, are behind everything that's happening in the world

 

[Xul]

Yes

 

[doubleincel’d42]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

God is fair and everything to the little detail will be balanced out at some point. Everytime someone’s done something to you and gotten away with it, it won’t go unnoticed by god.

This life was never meant to be easy, if everything was perfect and fair on Earth then wouldn’t this be heaven itself? It will feel like hell to see chads and stacies live their life while you suffer, but those people will pay the price for their degeneracy while your patience will be rewarded.

The true character of someone’s soul would never have been able to be put to test without the free will and inequality in society. Without free will there’d be no good or evil.

Life is extremely unfair but that is because there is a hell and heaven to correct the unfairness of the temporary world.

Life will pass by like nothing, stay patient and keep faith brother.

 

[Emba]

Stfu and put the bomb vest on, you gdmf pussy

 

[aryanmikmaq]

I don't know, seeing the unfairness in this world I truly do not know.
I've questioned if this is what god has intended for me, that I must not bare or sleep with any foid because he must have something in plan for me as one of his most mighty soldiers.
But that cope was burnt out like a flame, I have a satanic associate who I may relate to and I hold no hate towards him.
If anything he is one of the most who understand me, both he and I are the most alike.

Satanism is a terrible cope just saying

 

[ManOfVengeance]

Satanism is a terrible cope just saying

He's atheistic satanism not theistic.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

He's atheistic satanism not theistic.

It’s still very gay and it is a larp

 

[doubleincel’d42]

I don't know, seeing the unfairness in this world I truly do not know.
I've questioned if this is what god has intended for me, that I must not bare or sleep with any foid because he must have something in plan for me as one of his most mighty soldiers.
But that cope was burnt out like a flame, I have a satanic associate who I may relate to and I hold no hate towards him.
If anything he is one of the most who understand me, both he and I are the most alike.

Wouldn’t the unfairness of the world give you even more of a reason to believe in an ultimate judgement?

Do you think this life is extremely unfair, foids and chads will get away with belittling guys like us, and then that’s it? We just die? If you truly believe that the true ending is at our physical death then why not take it upon yourself to punish foids in this life, after all you wouldn’t be punished for dealing harm to foids if you don’t believe in the after life.

 

[ESL]

I don't know, seeing the unfairness in this world I truly do not know.
I've questioned if this is what god has intended for me, that I must not bare or sleep with any foid because he must have something in plan for me as one of his most mighty soldiers.

same, i wonder if god is real and if he is why would he let these things happen for a supposed plan, or maybe hes straight up evil and doesnt care

 

[Xul]

The islam will never leave you

 

[currycell900]

Imagine if a guy named mohammed in todays world goes into a cave and comes out and says shit like he is chosen one and for jihad you will 72 virgins in afterlife. Even you would call it stupid

 

[AsiaCel]

Become a Quranist

 

[GobidMujahid]

I don't like muslim women they piss me off and they're is no difference between them and non muslim kafir women.
The muslim bitches are self righteous skank fucking pieces of shit, they're the exact same as kafir foids but with excess arrogance.
What the fuck, why aren't they being punished by the muslim man.

They are munafiqun — They disobeyed the Quran and moved to kafir countries.

Inshallah we will make hijrah.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

Be a deist

 

[GobidMujahid]

I don't know, seeing the unfairness in this world I truly do not know.

The kuffar will be punished hereafter, and bi'ithnillah, we will punish them ourselves.

 

[Skelly]

Is your family muslim?

 

[Skelly]

Become a Quranist

Anybody who's self-aware and honest enough to actually scrutinize the hadith, realize all of it's flaws, and become a Quranist is also self-aware and honest enough to actually scrutinize the Quran, realize all of it's flaws and become an apostate
(JFL at people saying "Islam is unchanged!" when literally every muslim power ever picks and chooses what parts of the hadith to follow and base their laws off of it @weaselbomber)

 

[AsiaCel]

Anybody who's self-aware and honest enough to actually scrutinize the hadith, realize all of it's flaws, and become a Quranist is also self-aware and honest enough to actually scrutinize the Quran, realize all of it's flaws and become an apostate
(JFL at people saying "Islam is unchanged!" when literally every muslim power ever picks and chooses what parts of the hadith to follow and base their laws off of it @weaselbomber)

Well being a Quranist is the final link to the community without leaving it completely

 

[Skelly]

Well being a Quranist is the final link to the community without leaving it completely

Quranists are fiercely rejected by the muslim community, there are 0 benefits to publicly labeling yourself as one

 

[Skelly]

Personally I think quranists are 100% right, If quran is the literal word of god and the final revelation to guide mankind, why need anymore?

Rhetorical question btw, the reason why quranists are rejected is because the actual text is a lot less restrictive then 'mainstream' islam. No where does it mention wearing the Hijab or avoiding dogs, or even being pro-jihad or global dominion, jihad is merely a defensive war @SyrianSchizoSage
Obviously this isn't good for the narrative and having the most restrictive, oppressive position possible is GOOD for the elite and top brass since they can control society better.

>inb4 The quran is unclear!11!!! we need further guidance!11!

And so We revealed this ˹Quran˺ as clear verses. And Allah certainly guides whoever He wills. 22:16

Are you implying the quran isn't the clear, absolute word of god?
@AsiaCel

 

[Skelly]

Looking into it now, there is ZERO logical arguments against Quranism
>but we need muhammad as a guidance!1!!

And put your trust in Allah, for Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs. 33:3

>We need hadith/sunnah for guidance and law!!!1!

Indeed, We have sent down the Book to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth to judge between people by means of what Allah has shown you. So do not be an advocate for the deceitful. 4:105

NOWHERE in the quran does it say to circumcise your children btw, if anything it goes against islam because

Indeed, We created humans in the best form. 95:4

Let there be no change in this creation of Allah 30:30

And no, permanently cutting off a body part isn't the same as grooming or cutting your hair/nails.

 

[Skelly]

even more things that aren't mentioned in the quran, in case you're curious
>mandatory beards
>forbidding cremation
>Dajjal (brutally over @Hoor Al-Ayn)
>eating with your right hand only
>anti-freedom of religion
>5 daily prayers (The quran says to pray 3 times a day)

Spoiler: sidenote

I actually looked at a 2:238 and the translation says to pray 5 times.. lol.
Let's take a gander at it...

حَـٰفِظُوا۟ عَلَى ٱلصَّلَوَٰتِ وَٱلصَّلَوٰةِ ٱلْوُسْطَىٰ وَقُومُوا۟ لِلَّهِ قَـٰنِتِينَ 2:238
Observe the ˹five obligatory˺ prayers—especially the middle prayer1—and stand in true devotion to Allah.

If you don't know arabic then this is probably just a bunch of squiggles to you, no worries. Let's go through it line by line
حَافِظُوا — "Guard" / "Maintain"

عَلَى الصَّلَوَاتِ — "Over the prayers" ( الصَّلَوَاتِ/ṣalawat, plural)

وَالصَّلَاةِ الْوُسْطَىٰ — "And the middle prayer"

وَقُومُوا — "And stand"

لِلَّهِ — "For Allah"

قَانِتِينَ — "Devoutly Obedient"
Notice how it doesn't mention a number, much less five (خمس). That's a much later addition attributed to the hadith. Notice the brackets in the translation? Injecting their doctrine into the 'incorruptible' quran.. lol

>tashahud (SHIRK)

 

[Hoor Al-Ayn]

Personally I think quranists are 100% right, If quran is the literal word of god and the final revelation to guide mankind, why need anymore?

also, the fact is that sahih bukhari and sahih muslim came 200 years after the traditional death of the prophet; the other books of hadith also were written around the same time
its very doubtful that the quotes written within were of the prophet, or at the very least they certainly aren't his exact words

quran i can see being passed down, because memorising that was probably mandated and prescribed; additionally we have old manuscripts that by and large match with the current quran.

 

[AsiaCel]

also, the fact is that sahih bukhari and sahih muslim came 200 years after the traditional death of the prophet; the other books of hadith also were written around the same time
its very doubtful that the quotes written within were of the prophet, or at the very least they certainly aren't his exact words

quran i can see being passed down, because memorising that was probably mandated and prescribed; additionally we have old manuscripts that by and large match with the current quran.

Aisha's hadith makes it think the Hadith, at least not the parts about supernatural occurings, is real.

Narrated Aishah: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah’s Messenger and I used to say, “Can a lady give herself (to a man)?” But when Allah revealed: “You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside (her turn temporarily) it is no sin on you (to receive her again).” (V.33:51) I said (to the Prophet), “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires (hawa).”[1]

 

[Skelly]

also, the fact is that sahih bukhari and sahih muslim came 200 years after the traditional death of the prophet; the other books of hadith also were written around the same time
its very doubtful that the quotes written within were of the prophet

The reason why they were compiled 200 years later is because there were no manuscripts of hadith at the time, just word of mouth
Umar ibn al-Khattab (second of the righteous caliphs) had them all burned because, and i kid you not, because he was worried people would start giving them the same authority and reverence as the Quran

Speaking of Umar, he was an extremely based guy. He set out to murder Muhammad, and came out a devout follower. This is also why he was so fiercely against hadiths and rumors about the prophet, he used to hate Islam because of these misrepresentations and was worried others might follow in his path

 

[Skelly]

Aisha's hadith makes it think the Hadith, at least not the parts about supernatural occurings, is real.

Narrated Aishah: I used to look down upon those ladies who had given themselves to Allah’s Messenger and I used to say, “Can a lady give herself (to a man)?” But when Allah revealed: “You (O Muhammad) can postpone (the turn of) whom you will of them (your wives), and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside (her turn temporarily) it is no sin on you (to receive her again).” (V.33:51) I said (to the Prophet), “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires (hawa).”[1]

How does this legitimize the hadith?

 

[AsiaCel]

How does this legitimize the hadith?

Why would something that explictly expose Muhammad's convenient revelations be included in? Aisha made a very subtle dig at Muhamad receiving conveinent revelations.

 

[Skelly]

Why would something that explictly expose Muhammad's convenient revelations be included in? Aisha made a very subtle dig at Muhamad receiving conveinent revelations.

The Quran already has a lot of verses that are very convenient for Muhammad and has nothing to do how the average Muslim should live, but that's a story for another time

 

[Jaquarius1488]

Just do your Daily prayers and believe in god, you will feel way better

 

[Morphine]

Just do your Daily prayers and believe in god, you will feel way better

@kay' should try this. He's too depressed all the time. Aloha snackbar!

 

[kay']

@kay' should try this. He's too depressed all the time. Aloha snackbar!

 

[Morphine]

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Reminded me of @KING NOTHING . I miss him; he should come back already.

 

[kay']

Reminded me of @KING NOTHING . I miss him; he should come back already.

Yea it reminded of him too hope hes doing well

 

[Pikacel]

I don't like muslim women they piss me off and they're is no difference between them and non muslim kafir women.
The muslim bitches are self righteous skank fucking pieces of shit, they're the exact same as kafir foids but with excess arrogance.
What the fuck, why aren't they being punished by the muslim man.

Have my wife (if I had one) said such a preposterous thing to me I'd have beated her senseless but their foul mouths are enabled and sometimes even seen as "empowering" by these "progressive" muslims.

You shouldn’t drop something because of inceldom. Same thing with work, hobbies or physical activity. It leads to your entire identity defined by being an incel which is terrible for mental health

 

[ZX888]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

Why are you "believing" in the first place

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

Just leave stop asking questions we will never know in our lifetime like the origin of the universe who cares nigga you clearly don't believe it in your heart.

Just watch some debunk it like Atheist/christian channesl like cosmic skeptic or whatever to destroy your fears about hell and eternal damnation or

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

That’s your choice to make, as belief is not something one can truly control.

 

[franco]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

Yes, i would suggest leaving religion altogether would be the best choice, since it's all debunked, but you can always use it as a cope.

 

[dumbozhina]

There is no religion that can help you get a foid. except Mormonism or some weird cults.
Islam is a good cope, maybe even better than Christianity. As a Christian-turned-agnostic, I have read some surahs and some hadiths, tho i may never become a believer.

 

[ThanostheGOAT]

Where are you from?

 

[endoftheskies]

I don't know why I believe in what I believe in, specifically about my religious beliefs in god.
I'm disatisfied with the fact that I must bear all the hardships of life whilst the chad and stacies even the normies laughing and living whilst I can only stare as a spectator spectacing something i'll never experience in my life.

I am tired.


What do you guys think do I leave or stay?

i don't care its your own personal opinion or choice. if you want to give the religion a second chance, they will always welcome you back.

 

[Lonelyus]

Yes, Leave that sandnigger pedo religion

Sunan Abi Dawud 2121 - Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah) - كتاب النكاح - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)

Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic

sunnah.com

Jerk off religiously or play videogames theres better things to do than pray to pedo muhammed

 

[anglocelticcel]

Why not

 

[endoftheskies]

Why not

no religion for your face.

 

[anglocelticcel]

no religion for your face.

 

[Undervalued]

I don't like muslim women they piss me off and they're is no difference between them and non muslim kafir women.
The muslim bitches are self righteous skank fucking pieces of shit, they're the exact same as kafir foids but with excess arrogance.
What the fuck, why aren't they being punished by the muslim man.

Have my wife (if I had one) said such a preposterous thing to me I'd have beated her senseless but their foul mouths are enabled and sometimes even seen as "empowering" by these "progressive" muslims.

The Sharia is not viable.

You cannot legislate morality, it is a waste of time. People will violate religious laws constantly and the state will be unable to enforce religious laws without tremendous violence. The simple question you should ask yourself is:

Are you willing to have your government stone to death two married consenting adults for having an affair? Is there any government you can imagine that is trustworthy enough to hold that level of power? I can't imagine one.

If you try to construct such a state you will at best end up with an Iran and at worst an ISIS. The modern state is simply not equipped to legislate anything more than the barest of morality e.g you can't touch kids, you can't marry your sister, you can't kill someone else etc.. things that more than 99% of all humans agree on. If you try to implement religious law using the modern state, you will end up with a place you do not want to live.