Discussion Did the (((Holocaust))) actually happen?

[Darkenzo]

All of which was meant to win the war.

Is there any official holocaust literature that says they cremated the million bodies they killed via gas van?[/QUOTE]

It's the easiest thing to do with the bodies and it's what they did at the concentration camps.

Do you realize how long it takes to cremate a body?

Hitler was cremated quick enough. That was technically his honeymoon as well, on fire in a ditch.

There's literally zero evidence for nazi gas vans at all let alone as fanciful method of killing a million jews on the eastern front.

It wasn't on the Eastern front it would have taken place behind the lines, though somewhere out of the way.

Germans were simultaneously the softest, and also the most hardened monsters. I see.

Cultured monsters maybe? Himmler didn't like being spattered with Jewish brains it wasn't very civilised.


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How could Germans effectively fight a war if German soldiers couldn't stomach gore (according to the account of a German tortured at Nuremberg)?

They just found a more efficient quieter method of mass killing that didn't require any gore and bullets so that's what they went with. You can't really argue with that.

So exterminating a specific ethnic group

Not just Jews they killed all kinds of ethnic groups and other people for various ideological reasons. Here's some other examples.


"The Roma and Sinti were viewed as the “Gypsy nuisance,” a racially “inferior” people with criminal habits. Up to 250,000 from across Europe were killed.

Germans with mental and physical disabilities were considered “useless eaters” and “racially defective.” 250,000 were killed."

is worse than just executing in cold blood millions of civilians and POWs and therefore doesn't require a diffusion of responsibility, but Germans also "absolutely hated Jews" making them more motivated to kill jews

They wanted to exterminate the Jewish race entirely from German lands but they didn't necessarily want to shoot them all by hand. You may enjoy a pork chop but wouldn't necessarily want to slit open the throat of the pig you're going to eat. You would rather have it processed in an abattoir. That's a good analogy as to how the Nazi's saw these people, like slaughtering livestock.

Gas chambers were not used for human extermination and death camps had comparable consumption of zyklon b as concentration camps. They were used for delousing.

What do you think they were they planning to do with all those deloused 'POWs'? Send them all to Madagascar lice free?

Should anyone have any doubts about what the Nazi's were about just take a really good look at what they were wearing. They weren't exactly being subtle look at the state of them.

Actual skulls in their hats look. You can't get more evil than a skull!


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[Darkenzo]

No, a mass grave is the easiest thing to do with bodies.

No not really as you would have to keep finding land to dig massive hole into all over the place. A furnace to burn the bodies to ash is much more convenient you can't really argue with that. A bit of ash you can dispose of very easily. You can also harvest the bodies for anything of value as you have seen from the pictures of the mountains of stuff. It's right there. I don't know if you're selectively not seeing it all.

Why would Himmler be up close and personal and not watch from a distance?

He was... keen. Liked the idea of being a proper soldier, liked the idea of racial purity, liked the idea of exterminating the Jews. Didn't like getting spattered with brain matter though. There had to be a more couth way of doing it, and there was. The gas vans and later the gas chambers. I don't know why this doesn't make sense to do.

And totally irrelevant to what you claimed. That exterminating a specific ethnicity is more "psychologically taxing" than massacres of other types, while simultaneously arguing that killing jews was easier and they were more motivated to do so because they hated them so much.

You must see how gassing people in vans or in dedicated gas chambers and burning the bodies is an easier and more efficient process? Given the numbers we're talking about here. We don't just butcher animals all over the street for meat these days it's all clinically done. This is the same concept applied to humans. I think it's important for people to know what happened back then so that kind of thing won't happen again. And it did happen in certain other countries around the world after the war we have other examples of genocide, it is a thing.

Tens of millions of people were killed during WWII. These soldiers would have been more desensitized the more they killed, idiot. If I butchered 100 pigs I would be totally desensitized to the whole process.

It's still easier to gas people in a van and haul the bodies without the bloody drama of shooting them up close. Not something soldiers in WW2 really did particular often on either side. When soldiers bayoneted people in the trenches in WW1 they would often suffer psychological trauma as a result battle hardened or not. Much of the killing was often done at range, often with artillery shells or indiscriminate machine gun fire. Someone like a sniper would remain cool for a kill but they're not quite the norm.

Keep them interned like at the concentration camps, to prevent them from sabotaging the German war effort as jews did in WWI, and the same reason Americans had concentration camps where they interned Japs.

What were they going to do with them eventually given their racial ambitions? Send them all off to live in Madagascar? What was their ultimate plan? Killing them all is a plan at least, it's straightforward and fits with their ideology. Which you can see plainly enough if you read Mein Kampf. Why that's difficult to accept I don't know.

They also provided medical attention to jews, you know, to keep them alive before they gassed them, special.

They got medical attention alright. Have you heard of Josef Mengele ? They didn't call him the Angel of Death because he deloused Jews he did a bit more with them medically.

Ok.......... so they wanted to look more striking and intimidating that means they definitely must have gassed millions of jews with a pesticide instead of using the stockpiles of astronomically more lethal nerve agents they were sitting on?

At least you can sort of see what I mean there so that's some progress. When you watched Star Wars for the first time were you under the impression that Darth Vader and his stormtroopers were the the good guys?

totenkopf is an old symbol

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I know all about it, but even so. Look at the state of them. No-one could ever better Indiana Jones villian than those guys. The Soviets in Crystal Skull didn't cut it.

 

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It happened but it was not the 6 trillion jews like the (((media))) says

 

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Holocaust and nazism is a jew psyop to discredit the idea of nationality and nationalism, and on the other hand to decimate two strong European peoples -- germans and slavs.

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Nearly all of Germany's tanks were in the panzer class. Tiger tanks were extremely effective, but you haven't been able to demonstrate how using gas vans are more effective than killing with bullets. Saying execution with bullets was too "psychologically taxing" doesn't hold any water either, especially not in a conflict where tens of millions died. That's the type of nonsense Ellie Wiesel would say and we would just have to entertain it without questioning it. Could you think about it for a moment? How would rounding up jews and putting them in lines to be gassed in the back of moving vans possibly be more effective than shooting them? Were they working around the clock to gas jews in moving vans? Did they stuff these gas vans full of jews like a clown car? How long does it take versus a bullet which is instant?

On your homoculus account you said Himmler "nearly puked" when he saw the execution with bullets and mass graves (according to the account of a tortured German), why would scooping jews out of exhaust vans and putting them in mass graves be any better?

Why did the Japanese never need to develop these convoluted methods to "diffuse responsibility" when they were massacring millions of civilians and prisoners of war (hundreds of thousands in Nanking alone)? It's funny you think I'm the tard because I don't accept goofy stories from goofy jews that bring not a shred of evidence to the table (herp derp picked the wrong thing not to believe!)

The direct orders from Heydrich in 1941 on the eastern front were to only kill jews if they were saboteurs, officials in the soviet government, or snipers.

Once again, not single gas van has survived. You said you could see one in a museum, that was a lie. You brought up eye witness account, that "gas van" they saw was officially not a gas van. Your final suggestion was that retreating germans' top priority was to scrap the gas vans to hide evidence of a genocide.

You have destroyed that Jewcel with facts. Its over for him and his Low IQ

They were messing around all kind of wacky mega super wunderwaffen and shit from monstrous impractical over engineered tanks all using non-interchangeable parts and frequently broke down to jet fighters and rocket planes they didn't have the components for, cruise and space age missiles that ended up killing only couple of thousand people and super massive guns they only ever used once. They weren't at all fussed about wasting the resources they had so they could certainly spare some fuel and manpower to resolve the 'Jewish Question'.




A van is small and can be parked anywhere and you can cram people in gas them pull out the bodies and cram more people in. Shooting people take up more space, time, ammo, men with guns, they have to dig pits for all the bodies and so on. Have the van park near to crematorium or furnace and you can burn all the bodies you haul to ash. Before bundling them all in you can strip them naked and take any valuables you need such as glasses, watches, gold/false teeth, shoes etc. As they did here.

On shooting ranges they generally just dumped the bodies right in the pit. So vans and specially made gas chambers with their own crematorium were just the more efficient way of processing. It's easier for the soldiers to carry out their orders and less personal for them as well as Himmler pointed out.




The vans would be parked stationary just with the engine turned on while they were crammed inside. Gas chambers were an evolution of gas vans.




Yes it would look something like this. This particular picture apparently isn't a real atrocity but it's how it would have looked. You can see it would be less effort and fuss than firing squads up on a hill.

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I think he almost puked when he got spattered with blood and brain, gassing them inside vans and specially made gas chambers was less gory. They go in alive and come out dead. That's German efficiency.




The Japanese weren't really set on the extermination of any particular ethnic group they had some kind of Bushido thing going on where surrender instead of death was a disgrace to be punished severely. That why Japanese soldiers tended to fight to the last man and Japanese civilians commit ritual suicide than allow themselves to be taken by the Americans it was all part of that.




The Commissar Order? They had a fairly liberal interpretation of that order to include all captured Jews and near enough everyone else in general. They were all considered to all to be 'Untermensch'.

"Just as the Nazis targeted political commissars as agents of the Soviet Communist Party, they regarded Soviet prisoners of war (POWs) as an integral part of the so-called Bolshevik menace. The Germans killed POWs in massive numbers, not as a result of military operations but as a part of Nazi racial policy."




I'm sure some survived the war but there would be no way to know what they were once used for. They would have removed the exhaust modification when not in use. The trailers they gassed people in were just trailers. Gas chambers on the hand we do have surviving examples of. But if you say those are fake then any modified preserved gas van would be a fake as well anyway.




It's something the Germans definitely attempted to do with their death camps at the end of the war so definitely wouldn't leave any intact/operational gas vans around either. The vans would be very easy to hide away the death camps and gas
chambers not so easy.

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Wheres the physical evidence?

No, a mass grave is the easiest thing to do with bodies.

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It happened on the moon, they used gas vans and then flew them to the moon on flying saucers to dispose of them.


Never happened. Comes from the account of a tortured German that would sign any statement to get the torture to stop.

Why would Himmler be up close and personal and not watch from a distance?

You know it's a lie.



Yes I can. It isn't quicker, it isn't more efficient, and it never happened.



And totally irrelevant to what you claimed. That exterminating a specific ethnicity is more "psychologically taxing" than massacres of other types, while simultaneously arguing that killing jews was easier and they were more motivated to do so because they hated them so much.



Another nonsense argument.

Tens of millions of people were killed during WWII. These soldiers would have been more desensitized the more they killed, idiot. If I butchered 100 pigs I would be totally desensitized to the whole process.



Keep them interned like at the concentration camps, to prevent them from sabotaging the German war effort as jews did in WWI, and the same reason Americans had concentration camps where they interned Japs.

Delousing was to stop the spread of typhus which was the actual biggest killer of jews during the "holocaust."

They also provided medical attention to jews, you know, to keep them alive before they gassed them, special.



Ok.......... so they wanted to look more striking and intimidating that means they definitely must have gassed millions of jews with a pesticide instead of using the stockpiles of astronomically more lethal nerve agents they were sitting on?

totenkopf is an old symbol

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Mileage in millimetres on a 1950's Mercedes-Benz 300SL IQ

Josef Mengele:

Josef Mengele – the Creation of a Myth | CODOH

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The physician that didn't know food dye wouldn't make jews into the blue eyed master race

Mengele, just like Hitler was demonised to oblivion by the Jews. Its true that history is written by the (((victors)))

 

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Maybe we shouldnt be forcing different groups with mutually exclusive interests to live shoulder to shoulder which necessarily breeds conflict.

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The Holocaust never happened

 

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They had a football team of which had both Jews and germans on the same side + they had a movie theater for the jews to watch movies jfl

 

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The Holocaust never happened

it happened but most likely exaggerated

 

[BabyFuck McGirlsex]

it happened but most likely exaggerated

But there were no gas chambers - thats a fact

 

[Deleted member 24256]

But there were no gas chambers - thats a fact

I literally walked into one, but the math for 6 million in the gas chambers is impossible

 

[BabyFuck McGirlsex]

I literally walked into one, but the math for 6 million in the gas chambers is impossible

You underestimate the level of deception (((they))) have. That was a shower room that was modified post war to look like a gas chamber jfl

 

[Deleted member 24256]

You underestimate the level of deception (((they))) have. That was a shower room that was modified post war to look like a gas chamber jfl

I doubt it
Majority of them died by disease starvation over working and cold then the gas chambers