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Serious Destroying liberal incels arguments against being far right/white nationalist/"stormfrontcel"

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I'm sick of hearing the same 5 or 6 arguments from liberal or apolitical incels (many ethnic nationalists who hate white people which is pretty hypocritical) who are attacking the far right incel userbase of this site. It's the same arguments, so why not just destroy them all in one coherent thread? You can post this to them instead of arguing. If you have these opinions, please see the response that I make and atleast try seeing where I'm coming from. If you are a apoliticalcel also read this thread and hopefully it convinces you to be political, to be identitarian or far right or national socialist.

Argument #1: "Your race/your community/your people hate you"
By far the most common argument against white nationalism, national socialism, or even being reactionary is "Your people/race/culture hate you!". First of all, how can a people hate somebody? A whole people hates me? and in those people, who are they? Antifa? Liberals? Normans who are apolitical? Those people do not have my ideals or any other far right ideals. Why do I care? I would have them flogged. Also, what about the white incels who are also alt right here? Aren't they white? Don't they like me? People have this misconception white identitarianism goes to the entire race. If youve ever read white nationalist literature you would know white liberals or anyone not white nationalist would be killed too. I don't agree with a BBC sissy cuckold just because I want to preserve my race. He is attacking my race (despite being white).

Secondly, the person/race/community is me. Most white nationalists (spoiler alert) are white. it is a survival thing. We are being attacked constantly by the new world order. Do you see the immigration? They want to kill us, displace us etc. and it's pretty obvious if you look at literally any Advertisement, social justice post, government statement, etc. Even if EVERY SINGLE person of my race (who lacks en masse racial consciousness so how does that even happen?) hated me, I'm still white. I still have my ancestors and my heritage. And immigrants, the jews, blacks, still want to kill white people. When the US becomes 10% white and my house is surrouned by BLM am I suppose to say "It's ok guys, some ethnic on an incel forum told me my race hates me!".

Argument #2: "Society hates you! Why are you on their side?"
This is more for regular nationalists but I'll still debunk it anyway. You do like the concept of your nation but not the way its heading or has headed. Most nationalists are actually insurrectionary because they understand their nation (heritage and values) are being eroded. being a nationalist simply means you like the concept of your nation and its foundation. French nationalists longing to go back to the politics and social attitudes of the french revolution for example, or American nationalists wanting to go back to a "golden age" like the 50's. I don't think I need to explain why I hate society but I can guarantee you it is the furthest from right wing you can get as of currently.

Argument #3: "You are simping for Aryan women/Women/you're a tradcuck/something about women."
Unlike the last 2 arguments I don't really know where this one came from, my guess is that this was astroturfed to the further right after the whole conservative tradthot lauren southern problem. I should say that most far right (note: NOT regular right i.e conservatives or nationalists) see women as stupid and they want to repeal women's rights (see white sharia). The "tradthot" problem is not far right but is more align with conservatism and nationalism and regular right wing politics. This is why a majority of right wing organizations are entirely men.

Argument #4: "Well if (facists/whitenationalists/nazis/etc.) cared about you, they would throw foids your way!"
This assumes that they are in power when they are not. It should not be a surprise to you that the Nazi party of America, with 5,000 members, cannot give its members foids to fuck. That's because it's a small 5,000 member group (90-95-99% male) and not the nation. When they do get into power this argument can be used, but it will not need to be used as these ideologies when they get into power will distribute women as per their manifesto points.

Argument #5: Eugenicism. "Well you're subhuman/you support eugenics/nazis are eugenicists etc."
This argument comes from historical revisionism and a grouping of the far right. The nazis were not really eugenic, I mean one look at their cabinet will tell you that. They were against the mentally disabled though, and so am I (Not against, but I do think those who are literally incapable of motor function and who are vegetated/brain dead should be given a peaceful death because they're practically not alive in the first place and its the right thing to do). Even if the nazis were insanely eugenicist and really did want only blonde hair blue eye 6'7 giants and they killed everyone else, that still doesn't take away non nazi far right groups. I mean even fascism in its form doesn't advocate for eugenics, and neither does certain sects of national socialism. It definitely doesn't come near white nationalism either. You are conflating the nazis to mean every single hyper right wing group, something liberals frequently do.

Argument #6: "The jews won/it's no use fighting the tide"
go tranny then. If you think the jews have won and its over go tranny. That's the end goal. Or kill yourself. I mean you can say "waaah the jews won just lay down and take it up the ass like a good goy" but I don't want to do that. I'd rather not. I think the eternal struggle is eternal, and if you think the jews won then why not just be a tranny liberal? You think they won, no point fighting right?


And with that last sentence I will actually leave off on this. All of these arguments are to an extent astroturfed by progressives, especially arguments 1 and 5, and it's kind of weird to see something that I expect to see on buzzfeed or vice be argued about on here. It really does make you think...What else on this forum could have a progressive or liberal origin? You're not ready for that, but I can tell you that there's more progressive and liberal influence here than you like to think.
 
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wouldn't shock me if cucked mods remove this thread
 
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wouldn't shock me if cucked mods remove this thread
Mab. They allow niggers screeching about “muh stormfrontcels” on ID all le time
 
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Argument #6: "The jews won/it's no use fighting the tide"
go tranny then. If you think the jews have won and its over go tranny.
one mod already did go tranny :feelshaha:
Mab. They allow niggers screeching about “muh stormfrontcels” on ID all le time
of course but they will remove threads defending white people and exposing ethnics
"don't attack the ethnics bro. We are all incels" :feelstastyman::soy::foidSoy::feels:
 
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I hope you've also noticed a surge in kikecels in our community repeating this line of thought.
Probably, (((establishment))) sees incels.is as a Art-Light website that needs to be controlled or destroyed from within.
 
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I hope you've also noticed a surge in kikecels in our community repeating this line of thought.
Probably, (((establishment))) sees incels.is as a Art-Light website that needs to be controlled or destroyed from within.
This is a forum full of disaffected men. Many of which are white. Thus, it is a perfect breeding ground for extreme politic. we need to get to them before the jew libtards do :feelsjuice:.
 
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You are probably right. I will read this once i sober up.
 
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Good thread, I've noticed a surge in newcomers joining and immediately making threads about "stormcels."
SEE, it's as if it happened in a moment as a response to specific event on our forum. I'd give my virginity to pinpoint what it was.
 
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Sadly I'm not considered white.
Argument #3: "You are simping for Aryan women/Women/you're a tradcuck/something about women."
If you are "Aryan" you deserve your genetic equivalent.
The nazis were not really eugenic, I mean one look at their cabinet will tell you that.
Yea, alot of nazis were truecels.
 
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My guess is that it was recently posted on some "/leftypol/" place with instructions on how to join, start a thread and what points to stress, also on how to blend in.
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On point 3, what people mean is that that a racial supremacist is putting even foids of their own race ahead of men of other races. As an incel it's silly to do that. Inceldom should come first, it's the primary social problem in the life of anyone suffering it and it persists even in racially homogenous nations.

Anyway beyond that I don't fundamentally oppose all white nationalism. Many almost white only nations are better off for it. What I dislike are the cope aspects that don't mesh with reality or history.
 
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Based and highIQpilled :yes:
I hope you've also noticed a surge in kikecels in our community repeating this line of thought.
Probably, (((establishment))) sees incels.is as a Art-Light website that needs to be controlled or destroyed from within.
Many sus GrAYcucks recently ngl
 
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Even if the nazis were insanely eugenicist and really did want only blonde hair blue eye 6'7 giants and they killed everyone else, that still doesn't take away non nazi far right groups
Yes definitely massive eugenicists, look at that 7 ft giga Chad marching in the front

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Argument #1: "Your race/your community/your people hate you"
If not a single female decides you're worth reproducing with, it's the same as saying you're such a low quality human being they don't want more people like you in the next generation. If you said that about a different race, you'd be called racist. Sounds like hate to me.
"You are simping for Aryan women/Women/you're a tradcuck/something about women."
It's because we all know it's about simping for white women. Otherwise you wouldn't get so triggered about interracial relationships and porn. I don't see nearly as much vitriol for degenerate behavior like sex work, promiscuity, and hypergamy as there is for those same things except a black is involved. A whore is a whore, but racists seem to be especially triggered when some worthless whore whores around with the wrong color. It's almost like you guys don't actually care about white women being whores so much as the increased promiscuity leading to increased racemixing.
That's because it's a small 5,000 member group (90-95-99% male) and not the nation.
Begs the question. Why is it overwhelmingly male? Hint: woman's reproductive success is almost guaranteed, while males are not. Males are the ones who lash out and go apeshit to find a solution to their lack of reproductive fitness.
"The jews won/it's no use fighting the tide"
It's hilarious how white people engaging in conspiracies and violence to keep other races down is just white people being great, but any other group doing it are evil. Jews are just doing the modern equivalent of colonialism in a capitalist zeitgeist. Which is only possible because white people went around the entire world pillaging, raping, and forcing everyone to join in on their global capitalist system.
 
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It's hilarious how white people engaging in conspiracies and violence to keep other races down is just white people being great, but any other group doing it are evil. Jews are just doing the modern equivalent of colonialism in a capitalist zeitgeist. Which is only possible because white people went around the entire world pillaging, raping, and forcing everyone to join in on their global capitalist system.
Extremely true and understated. Jews could be the exact same things as White Capitalists but one people needs to be exterminated, while the other is "the backbone of Western Civilization". Nothing but hypocrisy. Nigger tier mentality to complain about Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Progressivism when White people do it to much greater degrees. Who gave suffrage and equal rights to women? White countries by and large (and this was when anti-Semitism was still socially acceptable, so "Der Jews" doesn't make sense).
Many SFcels have no morals except White good and non-White bad.
 
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If not a single female decides you're worth reproducing with, it's the same as saying you're such a low quality human being they don't want more people like you in the next generation.
Why does it matter what femoids are attracted to? They select for stoneage traits not compatible with an industrialized society.
It's because we all know it's about simping for white women.
What do you mean by simping for white women? Not wanting them to breed with chimps?
Begs the question. Why is it overwhelmingly male?
Because women only follow what’s accepted by the mainstream.
Jews are just doing the modern equivalent of colonialism in a capitalist zeitgeist. Which is only possible because white people went around the entire world pillaging, raping, and forcing everyone to join in on their global capitalist system.
I agree that both Jews and Whites are to blame for most of the problems we face today. It’s just that Jews are disproportionally doing more evil than Whites.
 
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what people mean is that that a racial supremacist is putting even foids of their own race ahead of men of other races. As an incel it's silly to do that. Inceldom should come first, it's the primary social problem in the life of anyone suffering it and it persists even in racially homogenous nations.
I don’t see white nationalist incels ever putting white women on a pedestal. Could you give me some recent examples of when this happened?
 
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tl;dr

If you are left wing and you are not a negroid, a homo or a bitch, when you are a cucked, its that simple.

The ((((LEFT)))) is responsible for feminism and all the bullshit that came with it. Conservatives were the ones that kept women under control and gave sub8s a chance.
 
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I agree that both Jews and Whites are to blame for most of the problems we face today. It’s just that Jews are disproportionally doing more evil than Whites.
My view as well. It's impossible to deny that Jews play a disproportionate role in furthering social and economic changes (to the detriment of everyone else). It's just that only blaming them and them alone causing you to miss the forest for the trees (and also doesn't solve the problem).
 
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the jews really have won though. I'm sorry boyo but it's brutal out there. all foids are completely degenerate. every single one of them watches netflix 24/7 and cooms to feminism. they simp hard for eboy chads while 80% of their classes rot coom and cope. then they go and spend $5k on bags shoes and makeup. there is nothing to protect or preserve. it really is fucking over no matter how you look at it. a f*id can be raised in the most loving Christian household with caring mom and strong authoritative dad and she'll still end up a vain chad only cumslut whose only use is her moist hole like the rest of them
 
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If not a single female decides you're worth reproducing with, it's the same as saying you're such a low quality human being they don't want more people like you in the next generation. If you said that about a different race, you'd be called racist. Sounds like hate to me.
Not every race is a female. Why do I care jfl, women dont need to be attracted to be to have sex with me, in an ideal society she is having sex with my either way. Why do I care what a foid decides?
It's because we all know it's about simping for white women.
Post one example of someone here simping for white woman. Literally all of them support the entirety of their rights being taken away.
Otherwise you wouldn't get so triggered about interracial relationships and porn.
Interracial relationships are shit. Why do you think people hate them? Because of the woman? Lol. It's because it produces dysgenic mutt offspring. The women are at fault and should be killed. There's also the fact that women are being taken when they could theoretically date me in an ideal society
I don't see nearly as much vitriol for degenerate behavior like sex work, promiscuity, and hypergamy as there is for those same things except a black is involved.
All those are bad but theres a racial element to it when other races are involved period, black or asian or indian or whatever. Like I hate shit, but I hate shit thats covered with piss even more.
A whore is a whore, but racists seem to be especially triggered when some worthless whore whores around with the wrong color. It's almost like you guys don't actually care about white women being whores so much as the increased promiscuity leading to increased racemixing.
promiscuity is bad but the racial element is worse again. I might hate shit but I hate shit thats covered with piss even more.
Begs the question. Why is it overwhelmingly male? Hint: woman's reproductive success is almost guaranteed, while males are not. Males are the ones who lash out and go apeshit to find a solution to their lack of reproductive fitness.
Why is what? Alt right politics? It does involve someone to be pissed off/disaffected, but also its the logical anti establishment solution. Women are illogical and pro establishment. Most liberal arguments (Muh racism, muh slavery muh oppression) depend on emotional arguments with no real logic.
It's hilarious how white people engaging in conspiracies and violence to keep other races down is just white people being great, but any other group doing it are evil.
I mean I don't see jews giving everyone technology, or doing some great thing. The british helped their subjects. Africa's still using british railways.
Jews are just doing the modern equivalent of colonialism in a capitalist zeitgeist.
In a way but it's especially heinous and evil. Only the most evil empires totally demographically erased and destroyed the people they conquered.

Which is only possible because white people went around the entire world pillaging, raping, and forcing everyone to join in on their global capitalist system.
Not pillaging/rape/force. Dude you literally have modern tech cuz of them. You can't say colonialism was bad with a straight face when you type on a PC and have AC and a car.
 
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lmao, keep coping
Interracial relationships are shit. Why do you think people hate them? Because of the woman? Lol. It's because it produces dysgenic mutt offspring. The women are at fault and should be killed. There's also the fact that women are being taken when they could theoretically date me in an ideal society
I´m pretty sure that if you self-identified as an incels you´re pretty close of being dysgenic, hahaha, keep coping
 
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the jews really have won though.
There are still multiple millions of based Whites in existence. It’s not over yet. 90% of the White race is cucked though.
 
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Extremely true and understated. Jews could be the exact same things as White Capitalists but one people needs to be exterminated, while the other is "the backbone of Western Civilization". Nothing but hypocrisy. Nigger tier mentality to complain about Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Progressivism when White people do it to much greater degrees. Who gave suffrage and equal rights to women? White countries by and large (and this was when anti-Semitism was still socially acceptable, so "Der Jews" doesn't make sense).
Many SFcels have no morals except White good and non-White bad.
If that was the case jews wouldn't be demographically replacing the white race. White people are more liberal than jews? Why are white people the ones to go then? Makes no sense.

Who gave suffrage and equal rights to women? In the US, it was newly freed blacks and jews. In europe it was also jews. In the 1920's and 10's anti semitism was actually criminalized. The soviet union criminalized it, the weimar criminalized it, and (I think) france criminalized it.
 
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Good thread, I've noticed a surge in newcomers joining and immediately making threads about "stormcels."

Shiiieett said same thing almost verbatim before refreshing thread.
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If that was the case jews wouldn't be demographically replacing the white race. White people are more liberal than jews? Why are white people the ones to go then? Makes no sense.

Who gave suffrage and equal rights to women? In the US, it was newly freed blacks and jews. In europe it was also jews. In the 1920's and 10's anti semitism was actually criminalized. The soviet union criminalized it, the weimar criminalized it, and (I think) france criminalized it.
Imagine thinking Blacks in America had any significant political power in the 1910's and 1920's :feelshaha:.Absolutely delusional. You are absolutely right about Jews having a role in that.
Jews hate Whites because we aren't Jewish. Have you seen Israeilis' views on Arabs and Blacks? They absolutely hate them, and want them out of their country (Israel).
White people are only special in this regard because if all White People had a unified racial consciousness, they would have the capacity to wipe out the Jews.

"White people are being replaced" Post Industrial Europe's (And America's) population boom, and conquest, led to the greatest percentage of the World Population being White in all of Human History (which is a good thing for White People :feelsautistic:). White people are doing great demographically (in an absolute numbers and percentage of World Pop) compared to millennia before, just say that you don't want non Whites in your country and stop beating around the bush. After all, more non-Whites outside of America and Europe isn't the issue, it's only non-Whites in Europe and America you dislike.
As far as I'm concerned, both sides just want to wipe out the other, either demographically, or by reducing/removing the political/social/economic control the other group has over them. It's two animals trying to kill each other in the wild, and one coming out on top eventually. Of course you should fight for your people, but don't delude yourself into thinking you are on a moral crusade if you'd do to them what they'd do to you (wipe you out).
 
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Imagine thinking Blacks in America had any significant political power in the 1910's and 1920's :feelshaha:.Absolutely delusional.
They did. Jews gave them voting rights in the 1860's. They allied with women to get women rights, then women turned around and got blacks total equality. They still do it today. Who do you see at BLM protests? White women. It's a political alliance of the "Disenfranchised".
. Have you seen Israeilis' views on Arabs and Blacks? They absolutely hate them, and want them out of their country (Israel).
Who cares about israelies? Jews love arabs and blacks. Thats what important. The international jewish order likes arabs and blacks, thats why they're flooding Europe and America with them. If jews hated them they would never step foot in Europe.

White people are only special in this regard because if all White People had a unified racial consciousness, they would have the capacity to wipe out the Jews.
And also because jews, enforcing degeneracy, cannot have whites. Whites realize that shit sucks to jews need a race that will not do anything and just be perfect goyimcattle. Which is blacks and arabs, the 2 most dumbest races.
"White people are being replaced" Post Industrial Europe's (And America's) population boom, and conquest, led to the greatest percentage of the World Population being White in all of Human History (which is a good thing for White People :feelsautistic:). White people are doing great demographically (in an absolute numbers and percentage of World Pop) compared to millennia before, just say that you don't want non Whites in your country and stop beating around the bush. After all, more non-Whites outside of America and Europe isn't the issue, it's only non-Whites in Europe and America you dislike.
White people are being replaced. Even if whites were less back then, their nations were still 100% white. America is like 50% white, Europe is becoming like 75% white very quickly. Its displacement. Who cares if whites, in raw numbers, are more when every other race is more in raw numbers as well? Africans exploded like 500%.
 
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I mean I don't see jews giving everyone technology, or doing some great thing. The british helped their subjects. Africa's still using british railways.
"Bro you can kill and torture and rape millions as much as you'd like but as long as you give them technology you're stil a good guy bro don't worry"

Also what technology you son of a deluded gangraped aids-ridden whore? All the countries raided included mine lost severe amount of resources and people and i don't remember any noteworthy technology that required colonialism and killing millions. A shitty railway or whatever is worth billions of resources and millions dead and raped? You deserve to be thrown in an acid vet alive
 
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They did. Jews gave them voting rights in the 1860's. They allied with women to get women rights, then women turned around and got blacks total equality. They still do it today. Who do you see at BLM protests? White women. It's a political alliance of the "Disenfranchised".

Who cares about israelies? Jews love arabs and blacks. Thats what important. The international jewish order likes arabs and blacks, thats why they're flooding Europe and America with them. If jews hated them they would never step foot in Europe.


And also because jews, enforcing degeneracy, cannot have whites. Whites realize that shit sucks to jews need a race that will not do anything and just be perfect goyimcattle. Which is blacks and arabs, the 2 most dumbest races.

White people are being replaced. Even if whites were less back then, their nations were still 100% white. America is like 50% white, Europe is becoming like 75% white very quickly. Its displacement. Who cares if whites, in raw numbers, are more when every other race is more in raw numbers as well? Africans exploded like 500%.
If it weren't for America's military backing of Israel and nuclear weapons, the surrounding Arab states would have absolutely massacred Israel and all its inhabitants, precisely for being Jewish.

No one is "flooding" Europe with Arabs and Blacks except themselves. Africa and the Middle East are extremely poor and Whites built the most prosperous countries in human history. No fucking shit they'd flood into Europe if they can, they want to leach off White success. Stop inventing grand conspiracies, and just stop all non White peoples from setting foot in Europe. That's the solution. You could literally kill all Jews right now and plenty (likely a similar or same amount) of Blacks and Arabs would still try to enter Europe, and they would likely make it in because sympathizing for foreigners before you own countrymen is a mental illness affecting much of Europe rn. Sad :feelsbadman:
 
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Africa and the Middle East are extremely poor and Whites built the most prosperous countries in human history
Why are people nowadays absolutely retarded and ignorant when it comes to history that they truly believe that modern society is the epitome of all humans societies throughout history financially and living standards wise?


No bro, unfortunately not all societies back then were dying from plague at the age of 20 and eating maggot-infested bread daily, which might be crazy to believe i know
 
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Why are people nowadays absolutely retarded and ignorant when it comes to history that they truly believe that modern society is the epitome of all humans societies throughout history financially and living standards wise?


No bro, unfortunately not all societies back then were dying from plague at the age of 20 and eating maggot-infested bread daily, which might be crazy to believe i know
There’s a reason why Muslims are coming to Europe now, but not before. For most of human history Europe was a undeveloped backwater, and Mesopotamia, India, and East Asia were the rich and prosperous areas.
Also I agree, Propoganda against pre-Industrial society is one of the most widespread and rampant of all propaganda campaigns in human history.
 
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There’s a reason why Muslims are coming to Europe now, but not before. For most of human history Europe was a undeveloped backwater, and Mesopotamia, India, and East Asia were the rich and prosperous areas.
Also I agree, Propoganda against pre-Industrial society is one of the most widespread and rampant of all propaganda campaigns in human history.
First of all, Islam is a religion not a race, there are already millions of white Muslim Europeans who were born in Europe and many immigrants who are Christian and atheists


Also yeah the west is much more prosperous than the MENA region, but claiming that it's "the most prosperous society throughout human history" is nothing short of ridiculous
 
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“But I can tell you that there's more progressive and liberal influence here than you like to think.”

We had the same problem on Wizchan too ie too many commie cucks and libtards.

The reason for that is understandable.

Communism like it’s father ideology Christianity is the Jews ideology for the resentful failures of society which is why so many incels and Wizards gravitate towards them.

These ideologies are perceived as ways to get back at ones betters be they Chad and Stacy or whoever.

Both of the ideologies promote the inversion of morality which says to be strong is to be weak but to be weak is to be strong etc.

The ascendency of this Jewish filth is probably how the “underdog” archetype got started and over time became popular then popularized into a pathological desire in the population to see the sickly and or the weak triumph over the strong rather than simply glorying as nature intended in the strong winning and thriving.

Christianity/Communism’s inversion of morality is how you can go from a society that finds itself in awe of the monumental achievement and mental strength an Arnold Schwarzenegger type goes to in building his body to instead venerating that which is sickly and weak ie Squirmy and Grubbs.

View: https://youtu.be/wgN1sLcAQnw


View: https://youtu.be/hC_-usMq17s
 
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First of all, Islam is a religion not a race, there are already millions of white Muslim Europeans who were born in Europe and many immigrants who are Christian and atheists


Also yeah the west is much more prosperous than the MENA region, but claiming that it's "the most prosperous society throughout human history" is nothing short of ridiculous
What? Thanks to the industrial revolution, even the poorest of the poor have a better/more convenient life than the average aristocrat in ancient times.
 
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"Bro you can kill and torture and rape millions as much as you'd like but as long as you give them technology you're stil a good guy bro don't worry"
I mean not only technology, but modernization and civilization. The existence of most states is thanks to European kindness. 95% of modern inventions are European.
All the countries raided included mine lost severe amount of resources and people and i don't remember any noteworthy technology that required colonialism and killing millions.
Do you have power? A car? Electricity? You would be living in a hut had nobody came over there.

Also, egypt the country wouldn't exist. You'd be under the Ottomans, who legalized homosexuality in 1858. 150 years before Europe/America
A shitty railway or whatever is worth billions of resources and millions dead and raped?
I mean the invention of civilization is. Idk, your country would not exist and you would probably live in some shithole hut had colonialism never happened. If you really think colonialism was that bad you are free to live how your ancestors did pre colonialism in the desert. Or fucking eachothers assholes ala the ottomans.





If it weren't for America's military backing of Israel and nuclear weapons, the surrounding Arab states would have absolutely massacred Israel and all its inhabitants, precisely for being Jewish.
Why are you caring about israel? You think israel is the center of jewish power? Jews are not statesmen, they are not governors. they are bankers, merchants and propoganda maestros. Israel is nothing. Jews turn on israel all the time. The center of jewish power is in London, Tokyo, Beijing, Berlin, Stockholm, New York and San Fransisco. They are the Internationale Juden.
No one is "flooding" Europe with Arabs and Blacks except themselves. Africa and the Middle East are extremely poor and Whites built the most prosperous countries in human history. No fucking shit they'd flood into Europe if they can, they want to leach off White success.
Why is europe taking them in? "Duhgh lets just take in objectively retarded refugees who are inbred and a totally different race to steal our money, wow that is so epic".
Stop inventing grand conspiracies, and just stop all non White peoples from setting foot in Europe. That's the solution.
EUROPEANS ARE TRYING. JEWS ARE NOT LETTING THEM.
You could literally kill all Jews right now and plenty (likely a similar or same amount) of Blacks and Arabs would still try to enter Europe, and they would likely make it in because sympathizing for foreigners before you own countrymen is a mental illness affecting much of Europe rn. Sad :feelsbadman:
WHY IS IT A MENTAL ILLNESS AFFECTING MUCH OF EUROPE YOU MORON. OH MY GOD. How can someone be so close to getting it?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oKhAb1BxI

Watch this. Perfectly describes everything. Straight from the horses mouth.
 
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First of all, Islam is a religion not a race, there are already millions of white Muslim Europeans who were born in Europe and many immigrants who are Christian and atheists


Also yeah the west is much more prosperous than the MENA region, but claiming that it's "the most prosperous society throughout human history" is nothing short of ridiculous
Apologies if my comments gave off the impression that I considered Muslims as a single race (which I do not).
Also the prosperity claim might be “far fetched”, so something like “overwhelming technological-military supremacy” would have been more accurate, though Europe’s Golden age of military might is over. Depends on what you define as prosperous or rich, and if you have a different opinion then that’s fine. There’s room for interpretation and disagreement
 
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ancient times.
You seem to confuse "ancient time" with medieval Europe. Seems like the overwhelming majority of westerns believe that all history was just a copy of medieval Europe in a different way. Anyway, i don't really feel like getting into anymore discussions on this forum since this forum has one of the most retarded demographics i've ever interacted with
Apologies if my comments gave off the impression that I considered Muslims as a single race (which I do not).
Don't worry about it, i think i might have jumped into conclusions myself without noticing
I mean not only technology, but modernization and civilization. The existence of most states is thanks to European kindness. 95% of modern inventions are European.

Do you have power? A car? Electricity? You would be living in a hut had nobody came over there.

Also, egypt the country wouldn't exist. You'd be under the Ottomans, who legalized homosexuality in 1858. 150 years before Europe/America

I mean the invention of civilization is. Idk, your country would not exist and you would probably live in some shithole hut had colonialism never happened. If you really think colonialism was that bad you are free to live how your ancestors did pre colonialism in the desert. Or fucking eachothers assholes ala the ottomans.






Why are you caring about israel? You think israel is the center of jewish power? Jews are not statesmen, they are not governors. they are bankers, merchants and propoganda maestros. Israel is nothing. Jews turn on israel all the time. The center of jewish power is in London, Tokyo, Beijing, Berlin, Stockholm, New York and San Fransisco. They are the Internationale Juden.

Why is europe taking them in? "Duhgh lets just take in objectively retarded refugees who are inbred and a totally different race to steal our money, wow that is so epic".

EUROPEANS ARE TRYING. JEWS ARE NOT LETTING THEM.

WHY IS IT A MENTAL ILLNESS AFFECTING MUCH OF EUROPE YOU MORON. OH MY GOD. How can someone be so close to getting it?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oKhAb1BxI

Watch this. Perfectly describes everything. Straight from the horses mouth.

Whatever bro not gonna read all that wall of text since i know it will be the same retarded shit you post everytime
 
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You seem to confuse "ancient time" with medieval Europe. Seems like the overwhelming majority of westerns believe that all history was just a copy of medieval Europe in a different way. Anyway, i don't really feel like getting into anymore discussions on this forum since this forum has one of the most retarded demographics i've ever interacted with

Don't worry about it, i think i might have jumped into conclusions myself without noticing
No. I think you misunderstood my point here. It doesn't matter which country or continent. Even the poorest of the poor in our industrialized countries have a better life than any group (regardless of any other factors) in human history.
 
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I mean not only technology, but modernization and civilization.

Do you have power? A car? Electricity? You would be living in a hut had nobody came over there.

Also, egypt the country wouldn't exist. You'd be under the Ottomans, who legalized homosexuality in 1858. 150 years before Europe/America

I mean the invention of civilization is. Idk, your country would not exist and you would probably live in some shithole hut had colonialism never happened. If you really think colonialism was that bad you are free to live how your ancestors did pre colonialism in the desert. Or fucking eachothers assholes ala the ottomans.






Why are you caring about israel? You think israel is the center of jewish power? Jews are not statesmen, they are not governors. they are bankers, merchants and propoganda maestros. Israel is nothing. Jews turn on israel all the time. The center of jewish power is in London, Tokyo, Beijing, Berlin, Stockholm, New York and San Fransisco. They are the Internationale Juden.

Why is europe taking them in? "Duhgh lets just take in objectively retarded refugees who are inbred and a totally different race to steal our money, wow that is so epic".

EUROPEANS ARE TRYING. JEWS ARE NOT LETTING THEM.

WHY IS IT A MENTAL ILLNESS AFFECTING MUCH OF EUROPE YOU MORON. OH MY GOD. How can someone be so close to getting it?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oKhAb1BxI

Watch this. Perfectly describes everything. Straight from the horses mouth.

Europe takes them in because they are the center of “tolerance” and “acceptance” and white guilt. Birthplace of the Enlightenment really coming back to by Europe in the ass :feelshaha:. Europe even tried to “help” the people it was brutally colonizing and killing (White Man’s Burden). Of course Europe would do the same if not more, when they were forced to stop colonizing. I’ll watch that video and get back to you
 
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Imagine being considered unworthy of sex and breeding by your race and literally all you do is shill for that race. I can't think of anything more pathetic.

It’s all Cope tbh

Even if there wasn’t another deathnic on the planet he’d still be unwanted
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That video couldn’t have been more incriminating, I’m with you on that. Multiculturalism is a buzzword for cultural destruction. Europe’s White population is extremely culturally diverse. No non-Europeans needed.
 
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Europe takes them in because they are the center of “tolerance” and “acceptance” and white guilt.
Who started these fucking institutions. The institutions of multiculturalism and shit are literally created by jews sponsored by the rothschildren. Who do you think started "multicultural tolerance" "Acceptance" and the concept of "white guilt"?
There's no way you can believe this is grassroots.
Birthplace of the Enlightenment really coming back to by Europe in the ass :feelshaha:. Europe even tried to “help” the people it was brutally colonizing and killing (White Man’s Burden). Of course Europe would do the same if not more, when they were forced to stop colonizing. I’ll watch that video and get back to you
jews are behind it. Always have been. You cannot be serious in thinking that this literal DEMOGRAPHIC level of replacement is grassroots :dafuckfeels: You really think europeans are just voluntarily killing themselves? Europeans are just like "yeah lets let our countries go to shit". "Let's let our countries collapse for some reason". Might as well say the south african farmer genocides are just white suicides then.
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Who started these fucking institutions. The institutions of multiculturalism and shit are literally created by jews sponsored by the rothschildren. Who do you think started "multicultural tolerance" "Acceptance" and the concept of "white guilt"?
There's no way you can believe this is grassroots.

jews are behind it. Always have been. You cannot be serious in thinking that this literal DEMOGRAPHIC level of replacement is grassroots :dafuckfeels: You really think europeans are just voluntarily killing themselves? Europeans are just like "yeah lets let our countries go to shit". "Let's let our countries collapse for some reason". Might as well say the south african farmer genocides are just white suicides then.
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I cannot comprehend why a White Person would want to live in a 90% African country, and an extremely dangerous one at that. They’d rather be “well off” in Africa than alright in Europe. Every white person should leave South Africa, and an equal amount of non-Whites from Europe should take their place (in South Africa).
 
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I cannot comprehend why a White Person would want to live in a 90% African country, and an extremely dangerous one at that. They’d rather be “well off” in Africa than alright in Europe. Every white person should leave South Africa, and an equal amount of non-Whites from Europe should take their place (in South Africa).
Off the point. The point Is that this literal demographic replacement is not brought on by the people being replaced. It’s obviously an agenda by another ethnic group. Jews are importing nonwhites to demographically replace white people. White people (or nonwhites) are not just grassroots mass displacement ruining countries time.
 

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