Excellently put.
Not to mention, the industry as a whole preys on and monetizes male loneliness and ultimatly reinforces it.
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Not to mention, the industry as a whole preys on and monetizes male loneliness and ultimatly reinforces it.
waaa it's illegal for u so people can't talk about it nice logic
if ur a real incel u will realise that u have no chance unless u pay for sex, i dont care about love or having a family and all that gay shit i pay to fuck a hole once a while.
when i eventually move to a 3rd world country where its cheap ill be able to afford to fuck cheap holes regularly.
You can continue to escortcel, just don't talk about it on the forums
There should be a seperate forum section for escortcelling because it is kind of a niche that not all incels do but nevertheless it should be allowed I think. I am sure there people that want to do it and need info on it so open discussion can be nice so they don't get scammed and such. There should be serious discussions about how to escortcel correctly and get most out of your money. Locations with escort prices and ages etc. There is so much scam on this on the internet. Escorts use fake photos etc.
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Actually scrap that, just outright ban anyone who talks about escort experiences
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Yes, its incels.is, not virgins.is. No one is less incel for paying a hooker
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i'd say allow it. if someone doesn't want to participate in the threads no one will force them to
Yes. Why allow talk about other copes like getting drugs while you can't talk about prostitution? It makes little sense, as the whore only thinks of their "client" as a customer, and the man paying also should only see it as the purchase of a service, nothing more. Only the difference between prostitution and most "regular" women is whores are at least honest about it and make it clear cut as to what they offer vs what they ask. The manipulative mind game bullshit that women pull with "relationships" most of the time is way worse than simple, honest prostitution. Restricting talk about how some people cope just cause others don't have easy access/financial capability for it, is just plainly being spiteful.
Buying pussy is not and will never be ascending.
I seriously hope you don't take GrAYcel's opinions into account.
Especially faggots like this
Yeah it should be allowed but new rules have to be set in place so that there is a limit to how much you can go in detail about the experience and should be moved to the lounge but the rule would be kind of vague tbh
Oh no he makes a point and I have 0 argument for my retarded excuse of an "opinion"
Wait I know I'll just call'em a faggit haha that'll show him
I don't mind it tbh
Allow it tbh.
Yes to discussion
No to those that are clearly bragging (ex. saying that x slut felt really good is not a brag to me just a discussion of experience if the person uses it to advocate for escortcelling)
And open polls is definitely more trustworthy here
No to those that are clearly bragging (ex. saying that x slut felt really good is not a brag to me just a discussion of experience if the person uses it to advocate for escortcelling)
And open polls is definitely more trustworthy here
Agree with this
Yes it should be allowed. I like reading the stories because it helps me get a perspective on escortmaxxing which is something I will do one day.
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I'm for it, with @Emba 's caveat about bragging. I am but a lowly graycel, so bear that in mind, but the way that I see it, two questions need to be answered:
For the first question, I don't think that using an escort changes one's status as an incel. I see the focus on sex as a proxy for love, so by my internal definition, "involuntarily unloved" would be more accurate. Part of the reason I see it this way is that - if sex is actually the most important thing - GO SEE AN ESCORT. Bam, done. Inceldom cured. We all know, deep down, that it isn't the same thing, though. True ascension, in my eyes, is when a foid actually wants to have sex with you, because of her romantic desire. This creates the interesting conclusion that if someone claims to be an incel, but actually exists in a state where foids want to have sex with them because of romantic desire, then that person is not an incel, even if they are in fact a virgin. So, in short, I don't think that using an escort changes incel status, otherwise Fat Link could delete the forums and just post a link to craigslist and win the nobel peace prize for solving inceldom for once and for all.
The second question, I think, is the real stickler. Is it actually valuable discussion? I think @Fat Link laid out a pretty strong case against it being useful discussion, but I'm not sure that's the only kind of discussion that the forums are here for. A core function, I think, is for incels to talk about their experiences among people who can relate, even if not by shared experience, but only by an understanding of the desire for that experience. In this sense, incel forums are pretty uniquely situated to host discussions about escortcels. There's fora out there about escort discussions specifically, but they don't come from the background and perspective that incel forums have. To othat end, I think it's a goood idea to keep hosting those discussions, but only if they take place in a way that fits with the culture of the board. So if someone is just on here to brag about some quality hole that they bought, well, fuck that guy, but if someone wants to come on here and talk about how fucking escorts destroyed their mental health, then bring it on, I say.
- The forum is dedicated for incel users. Does using an escort change whether one is, or is not an incel?
- The forum is meant to promote valuable discussion among incels, about inceldom. Do discussions about escorts constitute useful discussion about incels and inceldom?
For the first question, I don't think that using an escort changes one's status as an incel. I see the focus on sex as a proxy for love, so by my internal definition, "involuntarily unloved" would be more accurate. Part of the reason I see it this way is that - if sex is actually the most important thing - GO SEE AN ESCORT. Bam, done. Inceldom cured. We all know, deep down, that it isn't the same thing, though. True ascension, in my eyes, is when a foid actually wants to have sex with you, because of her romantic desire. This creates the interesting conclusion that if someone claims to be an incel, but actually exists in a state where foids want to have sex with them because of romantic desire, then that person is not an incel, even if they are in fact a virgin. So, in short, I don't think that using an escort changes incel status, otherwise Fat Link could delete the forums and just post a link to craigslist and win the nobel peace prize for solving inceldom for once and for all.
The second question, I think, is the real stickler. Is it actually valuable discussion? I think @Fat Link laid out a pretty strong case against it being useful discussion, but I'm not sure that's the only kind of discussion that the forums are here for. A core function, I think, is for incels to talk about their experiences among people who can relate, even if not by shared experience, but only by an understanding of the desire for that experience. In this sense, incel forums are pretty uniquely situated to host discussions about escortcels. There's fora out there about escort discussions specifically, but they don't come from the background and perspective that incel forums have. To othat end, I think it's a goood idea to keep hosting those discussions, but only if they take place in a way that fits with the culture of the board. So if someone is just on here to brag about some quality hole that they bought, well, fuck that guy, but if someone wants to come on here and talk about how fucking escorts destroyed their mental health, then bring it on, I say.
Maybe asd an escort thread flair which people can filter out. This way won't see it if you don't want to
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no, im pretty sure people just want sex.
only delusional clients think there is love/intimacy, which is why many escorts have to leave the disclaimer "i dont date my clients"
It lowers and degrades us for a second time over and what’s the worst thing about it?
It’s something we choose freely to do to ourselves.
Our first degradation was by society and women making us unloved, unwelcome and uncared for outcasts which was beyond our control and thus not our fault.
Seeking out some prostitute to provide you a facsimile of love/sex/intimacy is the ultimate act of cuckoldry, the ultimate act of the defeated no longer defiant man.
It is the act of you subconsciously telling society and women it was ok to treat you like scum or the lowest of the low like a dog as here you are groveling to yet another bitch that doesn’t care about you to care or at least this time to pretend to and what’s more you’ll pay her for what to you is a privilege.
Unbelievable.
Its the other way around.
Guys like you will never be understood by guys like me.
I wholeheartedly agree with your take on visiting escorts.
But keep in mind, that's just our oppinion, many would disagree.
Going to escorts doesn't change the fact that these dudes can't find a partner.
They will still come home to an empty apartment and live a lonely life.
We accept escortcels as incels, don't we? So why would we ban talking about it?
As long as we accept escortcels as incels, we have no right to take away their right to talk about it.
If you really wanted to ban this topic, you would have to ban everyone who visits escorts from this forum.
You can't accept escortcels as incels and then ban the topic from discussion, that wouldn't make sense.
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no, they're still an incel if they pay for sex
There are guys here that are hinting they are good looking and they are hit by girls but still are incel somehow. I don't really understand why they want to be incel so much, like this is some sort of privileged group, i personally can't wait to have a chance to gtfo from here. Seems to be a group of discord faggots wanting to make this forum a hangout for them and his friends. So, having that in mind, i think we should allow escortcel threads, there's no ascending when it comes to prostitutes, any ugly retard can hire one, they hardly have any requirements besides you having money. There's no reason to be butthurt about escortcels when you have good looking people here whining that they don't know what to do when girls hit on them, poor you
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Should be allowed.
Only few nonescortcels are by principle, most are just too high-inhib to seek them out.
Only few nonescortcels are by principle, most are just too high-inhib to seek them out.
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This. Paying a woman to fuck you, because that's your only chance at experiencing intimacy is nothing glamorous. I would only change the lingo and call the thing as it is — prositution, not escorting or "sex work", lol.There are guys here that are hinting they are good looking and they are hit by girls but still are incel somehow. I don't really understand why they want to be incel so much, like this is some sort of privileged group, i personally can't wait to have a chance to gtfo from here. Seems to be a group of discord faggots wanting to make this forum a hangout for them and his friends. So, having that in mind, i think we should allow escortcel threads, there's no ascending when it comes to prostitutes, any ugly retard can hire one, they hardly have any requirements besides you having money. There's no reason to be butthurt about escortcels when you have good looking people here whining that they don't know what to do when girls hit on them, poor you
Guns are illegal where I live so stop talking about blowing your brains out.
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thoughts on the current state of this circus of a forum
thoughts on the current state of this circus of a forum
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I think it should be allowed cause a lot of my favorite users here are escortcel and I don't want them to leave tbh
What a load of rubbish, escortcelling is an integral part of incel life whether you are up for it or not. People claiming its cucked or even saying that they cant afford it always reek of being volcels, standards are just different for them and they want the chad lifestyle.
Its the one way people otherwise involunatarily celibate can have sex, whats next, people that masturbate also arent incel because they can have sex with their hand, something a disabledcel couldnt do?
If mods cave in to this bullshit only a few entitled spergs here are spouting this site is going to go down the shitter, close down the only place on the web where incels can talk freely about their lifes and make it into yet another circlejerk for a few idiological cultists.
If this shit goes through, Im out, and I have never seen an escort.
Its the one way people otherwise involunatarily celibate can have sex, whats next, people that masturbate also arent incel because they can have sex with their hand, something a disabledcel couldnt do?
If mods cave in to this bullshit only a few entitled spergs here are spouting this site is going to go down the shitter, close down the only place on the web where incels can talk freely about their lifes and make it into yet another circlejerk for a few idiological cultists.
If this shit goes through, Im out, and I have never seen an escort.
yes , but if they start bragging about being rich and able to fuck top tier stacies like a certain someone here then they deserve to get banned.
I think escortcel discussions are entirely relevant to this forum. I mean its all about our inceldom and lack of sex. And escortcelling is one ...and for many the only way we can experience sex.
Also as @mental_out would say, if escortcels are fakecels then anyone can ascend after spending $200
Also as @mental_out would say, if escortcels are fakecels then anyone can ascend after spending $200
This.
Whoever is anti-escorts is probably a fakecel. If you are short and ugly, you know you have no other choices but whores when it comes to s-x.
When someone claims to be anti escorts, I immediatly assume he's tall or at least normie-looking. Because it means that he hasn't lost all hopes yet when it comes to dating/s-x.
Escortcels have lost all hopes, so they make the reasonable conclusion that they have no other choice but paid services.
If you guys want to die virgins go ahead do so. But you retards shouldn't drag us all down the shitter with you.
If you are born checkmate, because you're ugly and short, then you have no other options but to make money and enjoy life as much as you can with your money, before you die.
This is common sense.
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It's cucked, and I disagree with it in principle, but practically, it's the only option for some brocels to experience sex and affection (or the facsimile of it). It's a legitimate cope, albeit one that might cause cognitive dissonance, but it should be allowed.
Hint: The shade of grey.
You can do that math, Frothy. I believe in you. Just give it an honest five minutes of thought.
Hint: The shade of grey.
That’s a very good point and I guess I kinda forgot about it as I never noticed drug use being all that frequently talked about here as it was on my former home site Wizchan.
I didn’t approve of that either.
And it’s not because I’m some censor happy Reddit fag either.
My idea was that what society considers a true male loser and outcast ie that being an incel/Wizard/hikkikimori type individual (people like us basically) simply is not going to be able to obtain the social connections to find a drug dealer much less be NT enough to even be able to gain that drug dealer’s trust so as to buy drugs from him in the first place as non NT= fucking weirdo= probable cop or informant/plant pretty much every single time.
So the only realistic way I could see or rather credibly hear about a fellow brocel/Wizard doing drugs is if they were simply born into a family that’s largely about that life and has one or more NT personality having members who can make the proper social connections and build the trust to once again even be able to convince a drug dealer to sell to them to begin with.
I'd say rather no than yes.
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Yes. You Are free to cope The way you want. If youre too pussy to escortcel youre free to cope that you Have some honor
Yeah lol. That little factoid helped me quit pot...That’s a very good point and I guess I kinda forgot about it as I never noticed drug use being all that frequently talked about here as it was on my former home site Wizchan.
I didn’t approve of that either.
And it’s not because I’m some censor happy Reddit fag either.
My idea was that what society considers a true male loser and outcast ie that being an incel/Wizard/hikkikimori type individual (people like us basically) simply is not going to be able to obtain the social connections to find a drug dealer much less be NT enough to even be able to gain that drug dealer’s trust so as to buy drugs from him in the first place as non NT= fucking weirdo= probable cop or informant/plant pretty much every single time.
So the only realistic way I could see or rather credibly hear about a fellow brocel/Wizard doing drugs is if they were simply born into a family that’s largely about that life and has one or more NT personality having members who can make the proper social connections and build the trust to once again even be able to convince a drug dealer to sell to them to begin with.
How about a block able sub forum, where prudecels can block it similar to the sewage! (Basic rules still apply)
Yes.
Most prostitution-related forums feature stories from failed normies stuck in poor marriages, not incels. This forum currently is one of the only places where a person can approach prostitution specifically from an incel's perspective, because escortcels are allowed to discuss their positive and negative experiences.
If non-escortcels object, what I would suggest is the implementation of an "Escortcel" tag on all discussion threads. Don't like it? Don't read it.
Most prostitution-related forums feature stories from failed normies stuck in poor marriages, not incels. This forum currently is one of the only places where a person can approach prostitution specifically from an incel's perspective, because escortcels are allowed to discuss their positive and negative experiences.
If non-escortcels object, what I would suggest is the implementation of an "Escortcel" tag on all discussion threads. Don't like it? Don't read it.
Something you might want to help us flesh out with this topic is what exactly defines bragging concerning it?
Also should it have its own exclusive sub forum or at the very least say its own dedicated topic on Lounge as a massive thread?
Thanks.
"Bragging" is pretty subjective, isn't it? It's my impression that most individual users consider an escortcel thread to be bragging if and only if the escort in question is someone they would personally consider to be very attractive, which is obviously not an objective criterion.Something you might want to help us flesh out with this topic is what exactly defines bragging concerning it?
Also should it have its own exclusive sub forum or at the very least say its own dedicated topic on Lounge as a massive thread?
Thanks.
Definitely allow discussion of escortcelling because some of the Q&A's about it are useful.- Incels who are interested in trying an escort for the first time have questions about it, and they seek advice & tips from others who have been there.
Im not for it (the actual act of prostitution) but escorts is a reality of the incel and low value male world. They should be able to discuss it imo, just watch it so it doesnt go on to be a bragging or camouflaged bragging thread from a larper
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Personally I don’t have a problem with it. But out of respect for those who have been rejected by them too, users should refrain from talking about it excessively.
Though I’m a little more concerned with allowing chads who are scared of going outside/bored being on here. Oh well.
Though I’m a little more concerned with allowing chads who are scared of going outside/bored being on here. Oh well.
This. But they’re unable to ascend because “MUH NT”There are guys here that are hinting they are good looking and they are hit by girls but still are incel somehow. I don't really understand why they want to be incel so much, like this is some sort of privileged group, i personally can't wait to have a chance to gtfo from here. Seems to be a group of discord faggots wanting to make this forum a hangout for them and his friends. So, having that in mind, i think we should allow escortcel threads, there's no ascending when it comes to prostitutes, any ugly retard can hire one, they hardly have any requirements besides you having money. There's no reason to be butthurt about escortcels when you have good looking people here whining that they don't know what to do when girls hit on them, poor you
so escortcel discussion isn't allowed if the escort isn't ugly, got it
So where do we draw the line? I mean, how attractive should an escort have to be for the post to be considered bragging?
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No, it really isn't, and is quite easy to see, since that's the whole point: to let it be known to others by the braggart. But of course you'd say that, considering the fact you got multiple bans for bragging in the past.
I've never been banned for braggingNo, it really isn't, and is quite easy to see, since that's the whole point: to let it be known to others by the braggart. But of course you'd say that, considering the fact you got multiple bans for bragging in the past.
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Bruh. Who are trying to lie to? You've had multiple bans for your bragging posts. Even some late 2020cels would probably remember. @Animecel2D Get a load of this.I've never been banned for bragging
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I haven't. I've been warned for bragging, never banned.
I have a temporary ban for a cannibalism post that Serge didn't find humorous.
I had two requested bans.
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