Morality is not bluepilled. Murder is objectively wrong
No murder is not objectively "wrong", objectivity has to do with logic, murder is just not suitable within a society that wants to promote stability, laws and codes of conduct, it has always been quite alright to murder others of a different tribe if you go back far enough into our history. Murder is subjectively "wrong" because the term "wrong" in of itself is subjective. Again I keep having to repeat this line - "Just saying something doesn't make it true because you said it, validate your arguments, elaborate, if you are unwilling to validate an argument then don't make it"
What makes murder
OBJECTIVELY "wrong"?. Also please see the irony in your wording, it proves that you don't even know how to argue and you are arguing with bias right now, because your argument self affirms itself to be right, because you are invoking morality as something objective in an argument when were assessing the objectivity of morality (this is so meta), I doubt you are even aware of what you're doing or even understand what I'm saying here, so i'll
ELABORATE.
Were arguing whether morality is subjective or objective
Your genius method of arguing invokes that morality is objective within the argument when you make statements like - "murder is objectively wrong", thereby defeating the very purpose of having the argument to begin with because the framework for your argument is disingenuous.
I need to try and follow me here if you can, were arguing whether terms like "wrong" or "right" are even objective in nature and you make the argument - "murder is objectively <
what were arguing about being objective>"
From my perspective your argument = "Murder is objectively <
something subjective>" so it makes no sense to me, your current method of arguing is disingenuous, maybe you aren't doing it on purpose but that's the end result, you are attempting to self affirm the very thing we are arguing about within the argument.
I made a thread somewhat in relation to this morality argument and I think morality is ironically what leads to the degeneracy of human society, because it is subjective, and anyone can decide for themselves whats moral or not, more and more exceptions to degeneracy take place over the years until things that never would have been accepted before are now the norm -
https://incels.is/threads/morality-...-corrupt-and-degeneracy-is-flourishing.92510/
The basis of all laws that are good for a society, is logic.
Take murder for example, the law should not be "you should not kill because its bad/evil", it should be - "you should not kill because you also do not want to be killed". We should hate murder as a society because if we allow other people to kill others haphazardly, then we might be next, sounds fucked up but if society ran on cold logic like that, then everything would be more peaceful.
Basing laws on morality is ironically why society is flawed, its because MORALITY IS SUBJECTIVE. Even criminal organizations like the Yakuza or the Italian Mob, etc all have "codes of honour", that are things that even the average citizen would agree with. They have their own set of morals, for example the Mob usually doesn't allow killing women and children, its an emotional and subjective "rule", they have let their emotions create an illogical ruleset, but ironically they can kill men, steal from families, sell drugs, etc.
This is the problem with morals, everybody thinks their moral code is "good enough". If we all had to operate on logic, there is no such thing as "my logic" or "your logic", a choice either is logical or it isn't, logic is based on whats objective, not on how something makes one feel. We need a logical society not a moral one, "true morals" are inherent to logic, because logic usually yields the greatest collective rule set
Imagine how much the rates of rape and human trafficking would go down of prostitution was decriminalized, think about it, its completely illogical that paying for sex is illegal, there's no logical reason why it should be, yet despite all the income it would generate for a country if taxable, despite all the people it would alleviate from suffering, society keeps it illegal due to moral reasoning.
You see that slut on instagram, a lot of you moralfags on this site would say that she is being immoral, but you would be wrong. She doesn't kill, she doesn't steal, she doesn't <insert "bad" thing here>. That's her morals, as far as she's concerned "the times have changed" and she can be a slut and "it isn't hurting anyone". She is completely moral FOR THE ERA SHE EXISTS IN.
Again MORALS ARE SUBJECTIVE, they change from person to person, country to country, era to era. Morals are pointless, we need to be driven by logic not morals, morals can be altered and therefore THEY CAN BE CORRUPTED.
It's only immoral to marry a 13 year old if you do not wait an additional 5 years to consummate the marriage.
Dude are you trolling me right now, you have to be trolling, you know this sounds sarcastic right, you literally prove my point of how arbitrary your morality is, how subjective and pointless it is, why did you use 5 years, in some countries the age of consent is 15, and that's modern feminist countries where it is considered women have more power and control over their lives (Sweden), so why didn't you say 2 more years instead of 5 years?. In some states of America the age of consent is 16 so why didn't you say 3 more years instead of 5 years?, in america it is illegal for an individual under 18 to purchase alcohol in a licensed premises, so I can stick my dick in someone who isn't even able to buy their own alcohol?, why didn't you say 8 years instead of 5 years?.
I think you need to google the words "arbitrary" and "subjective" because that is literally what age of consent laws are, your "rules" are the definition of subjective, its like exhibit A - "As long as she reaches a predetermined time stamp of existence, which differs from era to era, and country to country, you can stick your dick in her"
Let me ask you something, if I'm married to a 17 year old, and on the night leading up to her 18th birthday, we are about to have sex for the first time, I penetrate her at exactly 11:59 PM for our current time zone.
1. Was it immoral? because of a 1 minute difference?
2. Did I commit statutory rape because of a 1 minute difference?
3. Are you seeing how subjective and ridiculously convoluted morality truly is?
Sorry I blocked him since his posts are retarded. I wish it showed that you quoted him but put it in spoilers. The forum got way better after I blocked some retarded posters. Do not reason with that blue pilled, feminist libtard.
I'll tell you to unblock him, and to never block anyone, never avoid discource, unless someone is explicitly trolling you (spamming messages at you). One of the most annoying and blue pilled posters I've ever met was Zyros, I argued with him constantly and in every instance he'd make a subjective and/or blue pilled statement and often humble brag, imagine if I had just blocked him, instead of going around making posts about him and posting this image and ranting about it (his post on looksmaxorg):
If I and every other user had just blocked him because he was annoying, he's still be here, we have to keep challenging blue pilled idiots and keep an eye on them at every turn, because most of them slip up and some point, and that's the point where they get kicked out. Also we have to keep pointing out that they are blue piilled, so that no new users ever come in here and get deluded into thinking that this illogical
@RREEEEEEEEE is saying BS is what black pill thought is, just as we wouldn't want anyone looking at that Zyros post I place the image for is what a "black piller" thinks about or how an "incels" life is if they just "tried harder".
These guys are blue pilled and egoists, and they need to be pointed out at every turn, never block anyone, always observe, always show them for what they are, this is our place, they should have to block us not the other way around. Blue pillers need to GTFO.