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Tell the retarded mods to put poles in the politics section fucking retards
 
Class collaboration for a greater class struggle. The primary enemy of the people is the international bourgeoise. An alliance including the Peasants, National petite Bourgeoise, philosophers and proletariat is necessary for the emancipation of the working people.
 
Class collaboration for a greater class struggle. The primary enemy of the people is the international bourgeoise. An alliance including the Peasants, National petite Bourgeoise, philosophers and proletariat is necessary for the emancipation of the working people.
Agreed that the international Jewry is the biggest problem I would collaborate with smaller bourgeoise but would not with bigger for the sake of the nation only temporarily
 
Tell the retarded mods to put poles in the politics section fucking retards
Class collaboration, third positionism. No class struggle, united by nation and race
 
Class struggle destroy the nation and will eventually bring back classes anyway, e g. Soviet communist party elites.

Class collaboration is better and benefits everyone.
 
Class dismissal, it's irrelevant.
 
Class Collaboration.
 
Class collaboration, third positionism. No class struggle, united by nation and race
Class struggle destroy the nation and will eventually bring back classes anyway, e g. Soviet communist party elites.

Class collaboration is better and benefits everyone.
working class are the backbone of society not business owners. The power of a nation is in its people they quite literally do everything for the country feed,fight,build.A business owner has never worked for the nation he won't be loyal he'll only be loyal to money the restrictions you put on them are going to have to be so tight you might as well not have them the nation should serve its people not those who exploit it any profit is stolen money from the workers (I'm also third position)
 
What does this mean, isnt class struggle obviously the bad choice since you're fighting each other?
 
What does this mean, isnt class struggle obviously the bad choice since you're fighting each other?
Fighting the people who keep the working class down who are the core of the nation
 
working class are the backbone of society not business owners.
They are very important. The Industrial Revolution wouldn't have been possible if business leaders hadn't raised the money to build the factories, railroads, etc. Of course, it was the workers who built and kept the railroads, factories, etc. running, but only under the direction and supervision of capitalists who had a vision of progress in mind, as opposed to the average proletarian who knew very little outside of his trade and only cared about making ends meet. Sure, you can bring up exploitation as Marx did, but that's what class collaboration is supposed to cure. It has all the advantages of capitalism, while keeping it clean of its parasitic, anti-national elements.
 
Stasserism so something in between i think.
 
Stasserism so something in between i think.
Strasserism isn’t a real ideology. It’s a meme ideology kept alive by its wikipedia page.
 
They are very important. The Industrial Revolution wouldn't have been possible if business leaders hadn't raised the money to build the factories, railroads, etc. Of course, it was the workers who built and kept the railroads, factories, etc. running, but only under the direction and supervision of capitalists who had a vision of progress in mind, as opposed to the average proletarian who knew very little outside of his trade and only cared about making ends meet. Sure, you can bring up exploitation as Marx did, but that's what class collaboration is supposed to cure. It has all the advantages of capitalism, while keeping it clean of its parasitic, anti-national elements.
Class struggle is not anti-nationalistic if anything it's pro most communist country's were more nationalist than capitalist (not saying they were good equality is not real or natural) also the capitalists never built the factories for the national good they build them to make profit. As well all the capitalists did was fund it was the inventors who made the steam engines and such and also the average proletarian only knew so little due to the lack of education and knowledge due to not owning land
 
Stasserism so something in between i think.
In simple a more class struggle focused national socialism the creator left after Hitler wasn't helping the workers enough
 
Strasserism isn’t a real ideology. It’s a meme ideology kept alive by its wikipedia page.
Wasn't that basically the same view that the SA and Ernst Röhm had, national socialism but with more emphasis on the socialism part as Hitler was pragmatic and allied with businessmen.
 
United masses against richfaggotism
 
Class struggle is not anti-nationalistic if anything it's pro most communist country's were more nationalist than capitalist (not saying they were good equality is not real or natural) also the capitalists never built the factories for the national good they build them to make profit. As well all the capitalists did was fund it was the inventors who made the steam engines and such and also the average proletarian only knew so little due to the lack of education and knowledge due to not owning land
Of course, that's why capitalists must be kept on a tight leash and their administrative skills used for the benefit of the national economy. It’s better to use them than government bureaucrats imo. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to make a profit, and I believe that an incentive to profit can be beneficial to economic development. Of course, the economy itself is only a means to an end and should not become the focal point, as is the case in capitalism and communism.
 
Wasn't that basically the same view that the SA and Ernst Röhm had, national socialism but with more emphasis on the socialism part as Hitler was pragmatic and allied with businessmen.
The NSDAP had no clear economic doctrine other than pragmatic corporatism. The NSDAP had both right-leaning and left-leaning factions which were not limited to Strasser and Röhm. Figures such as Robert Ley and Gottfried Feder, who advocated for a greater emphasis on socialist economics, were also part of the movement and were never purged. Strasser and Röhm were purged for being divisive and attempting to undermine Hitler's authority.

Strasserists need to stop putting that traitor Strasser on a pedestal and just identify themselves as left-leaning National Socialists. And if they can’t put aside their hatred for Hitler, they might as well become Communists.
 
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In simple a more class struggle focused national socialism the creator left after Hitler wasn't helping the workers enough
Strasser was a traitorous fuck who worked with the Weimar Republic government to undermine Hitler and sow discontent in the NSDAP. Him being the head of the so-called socialist faction against Hitler was part of this conspiracy to divide and weaken the NS movement. Of course, Strasser was full of shit as there were left-leaning National Socialists like Ley who were loyal to Hitler and as a result weren’t purged.
 

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