Charisma is cope

[deleted fren]

"Be charismatic" is by far some of the worst advice normies give to ugly men. Charisma is not some magical art form you can learn and rise up the social ladder with. Charisma is entirely genetic.
That's why none of the people telling you to be charismatic, can actually teach you to be charismatic.
The things people see as charisma are simply good genetic traits they're drawn to.
Almost every time I see an "ugly" charismatic guy, it turns out he has a good voice.
Verbal IQ is entirely genetic. Let's just assume that if you have a shit voice you can compensate by being witty. Nope! Wit and a quick tongue are not something that's learned. They're entirely genetic and based on your verbal IQ.


If you failed at the genetic lottery there's no escape. You can't become "charismatic." There are no cheat codes in life for men who have no good genetic traits.

 

[AdExpress]

every single advice we are given still has lookism. Charisma if you are attractive and creep if you are ugly.

 

[zd60]

Exactly but the people telling other people to just be charismatic are not even real humans themselves they are just vile meat sacks that spew other shit that someone already told them, they can't teach you anything because they themselves don't know anything but think they do so they go around spewing the nonsense

 

[lnceI]

Charisma=

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[LonelyATM]

i think charisma is not a cope but it is overrated as fuck, i think bill burr is ugly and charismatic and yet he still married an old ugly black foid who spent her 18s to 30s fucking chads and then settled down for him because he had money, she literally said this in one of his podcasts.

 

[iwishiwasdead800]

keep grinding keep husting and never get up

 

[deleted fren]

every single advice we are given still has lookism. Charisma if you are attractive and creep if you are ugly.

Yep.

Exactly but the people telling other people to just be charismatic are not even real humans themselves they are just vile meat sacks that spew other shit that someone already told them, they can't teach you anything because they themselves don't know anything but think they do so they go around spewing the nonsense

Extremely well put. They can't even defend the ideas or opinions they share.

 

[deleted fren]

i think charisma is not a cope but it is overrated as fuck, i think bill burr is ugly and charismatic and yet he still married an old ugly black foid who spent her 18s to 30s fucking chads and then settled down for him because he had money, she literally said this in one of his podcasts.

He has a good voice. (personally i find it obnoxious) That's the only reason he's beloved. Most comedians aren't that funny, but they have good voices so normies lizard brains find them funny.

 

[zd60]

Extremely well put. They can't even defend the ideas or opinions they share.

Exactly why I don't even bother trying to converse with them anymore or change their thought process, its literally like trying to argue with a wild animal, you can't do it especially when they even have the capacity to understand or defend their own points

 

[finasscel]

He has a good voice. (personally i find it obnoxious) That's the only reason he's beloved. Most comedians aren't that funny, but they have good voices so normies lizard brains find them funny.

NGL no actual joke in the English language had ever made me laugh.

 

[LonelyATM]

He has a good voice. (personally i find it obnoxious) That's the only reason he's beloved. Most comedians aren't that funny, but they have good voices so normies lizard brains find them funny.

i find interesting that foids hate him like plague and even after he bacame woke they still hate him, the sub 5 debuff is too strong.

 

[deleted fren]

i find interesting that foids hate him like plague and even after he bacame woke they still hate him, the sub 5 debuff is too strong.

true.

Exactly why I don't even bother trying to converse with them anymore or change their thought process, its literally like trying to argue with a wild animal, you can't do it especially when they even have the capacity to understand or defend their own points

They only care about the social status. Logic and truth don't matter to them.

 

[zd60]

They only care about the social status. Logic and truth don't matter to them.

Exactly

 

[squidbro]

Almost every time I see an "ugly" charismatic guy, it turns out he has a good voice.

THIS.

Voice is so massively underrated that it hurts. Bu it's not just how it sounds; the speech pattern itself is also important. If you are cursed with gay/cuck tone then it's over for you even if your actual voice itself sounds ok. I've heard AIs speak fluently using my own voice and it sounded 10x better because it didn't have my nerd/nasal tone yet it was the exact same voice.

Frankly, I'm not convinced 'charisma' is even a thing that exists. A generic line spoken by a good voice will sound much better than the contents might suggest.

Here is an easy way to demonstrate how important the voicepill is: Go watch your favorite movie or show. Then go look up the manuscript online and just read it. There are no sound effects, no impressive voice acting; just descriptions and the dialog. I guarantee you 100%, you'll be fucking stunned by how lame much of the dialog actually is when it's robbed of the voice halo. The actor is much more vital than the script.

 

[BPJ]

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[outerdarkness]

Yes, it’s not some stat you can level up on like some fucking RPG.

Most of our personality and worldview is created in childhood, if you had a good one you are going to be outgoing, optimistic and charismatic.

If, like most of us, yours was bad, your going to have less of those traits.

But since normies would rather chew their arm off then give up their just world fallacy, they will just keep shoveling out this bullshit.

 

[ThePornographer]

Almost every time I see an "ugly" charismatic guy, it turns out he has a good voice.

Yep, it was my first thought

 

[Defetivecuckachu]

I have known a few dudes over the years who I would consider ugly, but for some reason they score really well with women. I know that's going to be an unpopular opinion but you have to be real.

I think you need to remember your Wilkes McDermid blackpill 101 to understand this. Women are looking for men who have at least two out of three factors that they value:

1. height,

2. white (or black),

3. wealth, or some other manifestation of power.

The kind of charisma that lets somebody dominate the room, is a manifestation of power, some women will be into that enough to overlook some other faults.

If you haven't got that, it's very hard to learn it, and impossible to fake it. So it's not that different than any other aspect of inceldom, which is all about haves and have-nots.