Blackpill Central-Eastern Europe is lost

[rabitter]

There is something seriously strange going on in Poland.
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This was 2012, imagine now.

Kind of amusing how the so-called "conservative" Eastern and Central Europe has far higher male suicide ratios than "degenerate" Western Europe.

JFL @ alt-rightcels in USA thinking E. Europe will be their savior.

Poland is such a shithole tbh.

tbh

At least Germancucks can NEETmax, Polcucks can't even do that

 

[uninstall]

Albania wins by the looks of it - only 1.3

 

[Deleted member 15752]

There is something seriously strange going on in Poland.
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This was 2012, imagine now.

Look at all the oranges too..

 

[UKTroglodyte86]

It seems, that UK has no friends at the time. Great Britain has never had any friends, it has had always only interests as your beloved "hero", pathetic drunkard Churchill, once said.

It's true that most of the globe hates us, especially our European neighbours. So why would we wish to remain in a political union with and allow free movement to our enemies?

As long as media and the political mainstream is dominated by the Left and by Globalists, nothing will change. We must be patient and wait until "forces of Fascism" become dominant force on the political Right. Only then, the "true battle" between Far Left and Far Right will enter the media world, too. How long we must wait? Probably 50 years or more, since today, both dominant forces in the world, USA and PRC are still in the hands of the Left(USA) and Far Left(PRC). Let War, between Liberal Marxist West and Conservative Marxist East, starts. When 2 fight with one another, the third wins.

We'll see; with the Earth's resources dwindling, global population levels spiralling out of control, and Russian defiance against the West, things may change sooner than you'd think. Is it according to script? Only our political masters know.

I don't know which "Polish people" did you met, but we are definitely White.

Does these Polish people look like "of Egyptian or Mongoloid appearance" to you?:
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In fact, I met many "Britons" that were mixed or from other races. Furthermore, It's quite uncommon in Poland to see mixed race people and mixed marriage in Poland, contrary to UK where there is plenty of them.

I'm merely telling you what I see--people like these:

Whether these people are representive of the typical Polish population, or whether they are outliers from the Southern and Eastern parts of Poland, I cannot say. But there are large numbers of Poles in the UK who look exactly like this, and they stick out like a sore thumb. And yes, I am able to discern between Poles and other EU migrants, having worked alongside many EU migrant workers.

You may lie, you may manipulate, you may spend billions on your worthless, imperialist-chauvenist, propaganda. But always, bad karma, returns.

It is your response. You cannot even evaluate your own political stance absurdity. You speak like typical British ignorant, no matter if a Remain or Leave supporter. It only shows, in how terrible shape, British society, really is.

Why are you so arrogant? Why do you speak about "we"? Why are you dividing your own society, on these 2 "we" groups – Leavers vs Remainders. Why you cannot speak like a British and say "we the British People, voted differently". You are an anti-British traitor, then.

British society is utterly divided, just like every other democratic society in the world. I despite Democracy, because it divides the People, the Nation. I despise UK more than EU, to be frank. For me, EU is as disgusting entity as UK or USA or Canada.

Not an Anglophile, I take it?

Britain is divided, but that division comes from our ruling elite who have distanced themselves and conspired against the working class. And the anti-British traitors are those who sought to remain in the EU wholly to continue lining their pockets without any regard to their fellow countrymen.

What are they, do you know? British Ignorance is first, UK as a pan-National Union is the second. That's why it is so important to support Scottish Case. Case of Nationalism, no matter of what kind. If England and Scotland were independent states, within EU, there would be no Brexit at all.

Well, there can't be a Brexit without a Britain; but England would've left and the vote would've been much more decisive. If the Scots want 'independence' in the context of being a vassal state of the EUSSR then good luck to them, they'll need it.

I've always considered Great Britain as a country, full of absurdity. That's why I predicted Brexit, long time ago, If I remember, only in 2012 or 2011, when the idea of EU referendum, was heard in the media. I knew, that after Brexit, it will be France which will eventually become a dominant force in Western Europe. Of course, under FN/Le Pen rule, but looking at self-destructible character of the English people, even France under a Communist, Jean-Luc Melenchon would be in better shape.

The absurdity is that we let a paedophile Prime Minister (Edward Heath) trick us into joining the EEC in the first place, passing it off as he did as merely a trade organisation.

But returning to Brexit. Do you really believe, that 52% of the British society, voted for the effects of Brexit? For example, for the hard border in Ireland? For higher prices on the EU-made products? For looser ties with Europe? For closer ties with USA, Canada or India? For more immigration from non-European countries? I highly doubt. I know, what kind of Brexit, we could see, in the next months, until now.

Leavers voted out because they didn't wish to have their laws and institutions superceded by foreign powers, to have hordes of jobseekers and criminals descend upon us due to the utterly inflexible freedom of movement right, and ultimately to have our country annexed and dragged into a European melting pot.

I am sure, that UK-EU relations will be very close, after Brexit. But there will be costs for UK and they will be big. Financial sector will pay, hugely, because it will loose the access to the European Single Market, including Iceland and Norway. UK import from EU will be more costly.

Typical Pole--everything's about money. See? I can generalise too.

So called "welfare state" is nothing more than a Market Socialism. Socialism benefits these who do not work or are freeloaders, officials, public servants, lawmakers and others.

Actually, the welfare state was set up after WWII in order to provide decent housing and healthcare to the working classes, as well as unemployment insurance and pensions. It has morphed into a different beast however and now exists as a form of state control.

Europe has huge problems, due to the enormous level of taxation, in comparison to the rest of the world. France for example has a 57% tax burden rate and for the last 30 or more years, had no single balanced budget. Now, French people are "affraid of the future". Who made these debts, then? Aliens from Mars?

France is the symbol of bankruptcy of Market Socialism. Nordic countries understood, some time ago, that they must radically change their model. And now, just like Norway did, Denmark is planning to significantly, cut the taxes. More cash in the pocket, means less cash in the hands of politicians, the enemies of the people, somewhere above.

A predictable consequence of opening your borders up to freeloaders. Rest assured, the invaders will continue to receive generous state handouts; the indigenous may have to work extra hours down at the labour camp or communal farm to make up for it though . . .

Socialism has no future and everyone knows it, Social-Democracy is exactly the same. In the times of Globalization there are 2 forces in politics: Globalists and Nationalists. One cannot and must not, be a hypocrite. You cannot be against Capitalism and support immigration, because Capitalists use immigrants as their cheap labour force. It is obvious.

Both the Right and the Left support open borders: the Right in order to gain cheap labour and to create new markets; the Left for diversity, humanitarian, and anti-racist reasons.

For me this fragment is completely idiotic. Written by some Conservative idiot, from the West. Of course, British are also to blame and I do not say, that British were good, on the contrary. Churchill is personally responsible for tremendous crimes, committed in India for example.

Truth about 1939-1945 War is very clear. Britain-Germany-Soviet Union – these countries were on the "bad side". All the rest on the "good side". Including Japan, which also committed many crimes in China, but was provoked by China and Soviets, earlier. End of discussion.

You're correct that Churchill is a war criminal, and the biggest crimes he committed were against the British people themselves. For instance, he ordered the bombing of German civilian targets in order to goad the Nazis into bombing British civilian targets, which was used to increase war favour amongst the British masses.

Explain to me what Britain owed the Poles--a people we have no historical or cultural links to who are not are historical allies--or the French(!), a people who have utterly detested us for centuries, or the Belgians, Dutch, Norwegians, et al.? We should've accepted Hitler's peace offer and be done with it rather than lose a single British soldier in order to 'liberate' the continent.

You are right about me. British Nationalists are still believing in their "Britishness". Thanks to recent changes on the British Isles, UK is an obsolete, artificial state. I wrote, many times, I do not see very big difference, between UK and EU. I support the idea of English Republic or English Nation-state with close relations with its former British brothers and sisters. Scotland, Northern Ireland are on their way to leave the British Union, noone know, when it is going to happen, though.

Bizarre, you support the breakup of the UK and the national independence of its peoples but you're claiming Brexit is bad for us?

This "rise of Fascism" as you call it, is a natural answer for the exhaustion with post-Communist, Liberalism. Eastern Europeans have had experience with every single political ideology. And Nationalism is definitely the best or as you could call it, the "least evil". Liberalism and Democracy is sh..., Socialism and Communism was irrational, destructible and purely devilish. So, only Conservative or National-Corporatist form of government and social-political system, could bring us benefits.

Fascism is the only proven defence against an international conspiracy of this magnitude.

Your analysis is very wise, I am glad to read such intelligent remarks. You speak, nearly like a political scientist...

Thank you, you're too kind. And for a Pole, you seem to know much about life in the UK. Doubtless a current or former migrant worker salty about the Brexit vote?

 

[Johny.speiz]

It's true that most of the globe hates us, especially our European neighbours. So why would we wish to remain in a political union with and allow free movement to our enemies?

And who are the "British true friends" nowadays? China? India? Qatar? You love Globalism and Britain is the biggest proponent of Globalism, in the world. You are in fact, the Global Parasite, bigger than USA, China, EU or Russia themselves and only breakup of UK, can stop it.

Comparing French colonialism I can say it was the least horrible, especially in comparison to British, German or Russian one. That's also a reason why like you said "most of the globe hates us".

USA is not a British ally, anymore, since USA has different interests than post-Brexit UK. USA under Trump prefers economic protectionism, especially in case of trade. UK wants to strike indefinite numbers of "free trade deals". I wonder, if UK is going to sign an FTA agreement with Antarctica.

Trump has shown, at the beginning what is his attitude to FTA's, especially the multi-national ones, like TPP. What's interesting, in case of TTIP, situation might be different. TTIP is not a free tradel deal, but rather an political-economic agreement, between USA and EU. The first step to turning NATO alliance into political-economic and military one. With my whole negative attitude to EU and NATO, I can understand such a direction. For both, USA and Europe, it is China which is the biggest threat. And what UK does? It starts trading with China, it sends trains from London to China, it wants to participate in Chinese, anti-Western initiatives: Asian Investment Bank and One Belt-One Road project

Brexit UK is the Troyan Horse of China. An enemy of USA.

I'm merely telling you what I see--people like these:

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Hahaha, what does it mean? UK is full of Blacks, Indians, Pakistanis who are "British citizens" and is widely racially mixed, unlike Poland. Britain is "racially" lost from at least 60 years.

British are first and foremost citizens of the United Kingdom. Just like, Poles are citizens of the Republic of Poland. Only secondly, they are the citizens of EU. They made very clear choice, saying "we do not need to be EU citizens, to be 100% Europeans". Just like myself, who considers being a 100% European, yet, completely anti-EU. Just like Russians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Norwegians, Swiss people and other European Nations. Of course, in case of Britons, just like in case of Russians, problem lies where European civilization and European continent, end.

I consider Britons as equally European as Russians or in many ways, Turks. British are maybe too much focused, still on their old Empire, but it is only the problem of the old people and some minorities. Majority of younger Britons prefer EU than Commonwealth, yet, they accept the result of the referendum. It makes the situation, very clear. UK will leave EU, but will stay in close relations with EU, probably being a member of the European Economic Area or maybe partially, through Switzerland-like, UK-EU deals. For me, it is the best scenario, possible. I strongly want my country to take this way, too. Other countries, like Ukraine, Turkey, Belarus, maybe Russia should also follow this way.

I do not need EU to anything, yet I want my country to cooperate closely with European countries, also these in EU and EEA.

Not an Anglophile, I take it?

Britain is divided, but that division comes from our ruling elite who have distanced themselves and conspired against the working class. And the anti-British traitors are those who sought to remain in the EU wholly to continue lining their pockets without any regard to their fellow countrymen.

England and Scotland, Ireland are separate Nations and I do see any argument for preserving the Union. Polish-Lithuanian Union which was formed earlier than the British Union, collapsed and none wants to restore it with some minor exceptions. Relations with Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania are pretty the same as these between England and Ireland, intoxicated. That's why I fully support the divorce.

I am an Anglo-phobe, but I am not against Brits and definitely not against USA and rest of Anglo-Saxons. I even prefer Anglo-Saxons than continental Western Europe and definitely than Germans. Yet, I am able to evaluate and to understand the British problem. British simply do not know, whom they are, today. British Empire is a history and UK is on the brink of break up. People who supported Brexit, in many ways are old people, who still believe, that UK is a unitary Nation-state. It is not, it is a very loose British Union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

The fact, that 2 members of the British Union voted Leave and 2 others voted Remain it is a problem. English, who still believe in UK are simply too arrogant, to accept that their place is next to Scots and Irish from the North. Their lack of respect towards Scotland and Norther Ireland is a problem.

Yet, many of English, understand this problem and they support Soft Brexit, suitable for every part of the British Union. I am not against UK, but only against English arrogance. It reminds me arrogant old Germans, who say some gibberish about "East Germany, occupied by Poland".

Generally speaking, British are right of leaving EU, but it is the "old England" which has the problem with acceptance of the facts.

Post-British, England will definitely be better off, trust me.

Brexit is not an end, but the beginning. Beginning of the end of so called "Great Britain". In 30 years, there will be no Great Britain, I have no doubts about it. British people choose division, sadly.

So, pay more respect to this tiny, but enormously important country. If you are able to stop your arrogant, British-Unionist behaviour, better do it. Know your place!

Let's face it, Britain is going to break up, sooner or later, no matter what British Unionists in their pathetic nostalgia, believe. This is the most "practical" effect of Brexit.

Question is: Do you and other supporters of Brexit, accept this outcome. Scotland as an independent country and Unification of Ireland? If not, then you are living in some distant galaxy, just like these who believe in "reversion of Brexit". I support both issues from the very beginning and I see, that everything goes in the positive direction.

Brexit and breakup of UK are the facts! End of discussion.

Leavers voted out because they didn't wish to have their laws and institutions superceded by foreign powers, to have hordes of jobseekers and criminals descend upon us due to the utterly inflexible freedom of movement right, and ultimately to have our country annexed and dragged into a European melting pot.

Well said. Brexit marks the very end of EU. Without UK, so called "European project" doesn't make a sense. Most of proponents of EU, do not understand, why UK is leaving. I know the main cause "refugees welcome" in 2015. If there had been no, such disastrous, pro-immigration policies in Western Europe, adopted by Western European government, especially UK, if there had been no multi-culturalist policies, there would have been no anti-immigration sentiment in countries, like UK or Netherlands.

Typical Pole--everything's about money. See? I can generalise too.

You're right, about "money, money, money" attitude. Poles "love EU money", although they do not know, that it has nothing to do with "EU help", but a normal sell-buy arrangement. Germany/France/UK/rest of EU gives us money and awaits profits. Majority of retail in big cities is in German/French/British hands. I have only 2 Polish supermarkets in my neighbourhood, but around 10 foreign ones. Feel it?

This "EU money" is a price for complete colonization of Poland, by EU business. Norway, Switzerland, Iceland also pay for the Access to the Polish market and Poland also uses this money. Neither Norwegians nor Swiss, complain about "lack of democracy" in Poland or neither of both, want Poland to accept the illegal immigrants. If Britain leaves EU but remains in the Single Market, Poland will also receive the funds from them. I wonder, if London will be interested in lecturing Poland in such themes like justice system, immigration or "human rights". Unlike EU, Britain, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland are very pragmatic and they know how the business looks. They help us financially, but they are first on the queue to our big, 40 million market.

I have never been against economic integration of Europe.

European Economic Area is enough, we do not need anything more.

Actually, the welfare state was set up after WWII in order to provide decent housing and healthcare to the working classes, as well as unemployment insurance and pensions. It has morphed into a different beast however and now exists as a form of state control.

Do you know, why it look this way? Just look on France and its ultra-bureauctratic model of state. France and bureaucracy literally name the same. I hate French, because of their pro-Socialist and pro-State paranoias. I do hate also English for their Liberal and pro-Invividualist mentality, as well.

A predictable consequence of opening your borders up to freeloaders. Rest assured, the invaders will continue to receive generous state handouts; the indigenous may have to work extra hours down at the labour camp or communal farm to make up for it though . . .

UK, Germany and Italy, France, Holland, whole Western Europe is going in the same exactly same direction. Sooner or later, EU imbeciles understand, that immigration is the main cause of Brexit and oncoming Italexit (in the Eurozone withdrawal, meaning), better for themselves.

Yes, immigration mixed with multi-culturalism are the main cause of collapse of the "European project", what's more they are the main cause for the collapse of Europe, as a whole. Get rid of immigration, get rid of multi-culturalism, restore European Culture and European Identity, then we can restart the "European integration" project. We must close our borders for the immigration, coming to Europe, from Africa and Asia.

Only now, I read, that someone wants to steal the money from Europeans, once more. Theory, that this scheme should be financed from higher taxes is a complete absurd. What is this "European VAT", then? New tax! Just like the European Social Fund, it is nothing more than a waste of private money. European Social Fund should be completely scrapped and the whole fund, should finance, this payout. Let's count, 200 euro times a 200 hundred millions, equates 40 billions. So, we need aproximately 50 billion euro for this, every year. European Social Fund is too little to fund that. So, we must cut the spending from other fields. At best, we should fund it from CAP, which is completely ineffective and unjust. Rich, big farmers, many big agrobusinesses, get dozens of millions of euro per each.

So, money exists, in the EU budget and there is no need to steal money from EU citizens. European countries are already too Socialist and majority of them, should start cutting their taxes and public spending.

So, if we really want to help people in need, we must find the money, where it is. Instead of taking the cash from the pockets of the poorest, what is typical for people with Socialist mentality.

Both the Right and the Left support open borders: the Right in order to gain cheap labour and to create new markets; the Left for diversity, humanitarian, and anti-racist reasons.

Very logical claim. The term Populism means nothing more than People's system. If we risk a comparison between leftist Democrats and rightist Populist and ask ordinary people, on the street, whom they would like to see, in power, majority would choose Populists. Why? Because Left, in general, has nothing to offer, these days. In the Globalization times, Left stands on the same side as Liberals, they both support Globalism. Everyone who support massive immigration, supports Global Capitalism. Someone said, I do not remember, who, that "immigrants are reservoir of the Global Capital". Who supports massive immigration of Ukrainians to Poland? Ordinary people? No, Capitalists and contemporary, pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian government. Majority of people, in Poland oppose, immigration, they would like see, Polish emigrants to return.

Explain to me what Britain owed the Poles--a people we have no historical or cultural links to who are not are historical allies--or the French(!), a people who have utterly detested us for centuries, or the Belgians, Dutch, Norwegians, et al.? We should've accepted Hitler's peace offer and be done with it rather than lose a single British soldier in order to 'liberate' the continent.

I should remind you that Britain signed an Anglo-Polish military alliance, this included undertakings of assistance against any aggression from a foreign country, especially for mutual assistance in case of military invasion from Germany, as specified in the protocol...which the British didn't respected anyway...But, Poles stupidly fought for Britain and helped them a lot in terms of military intelligence.

ARTICLE I.

Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power.

I've just remembered that we think about so called "West", especially Western Europe which, I almost forgot, think only about itself. I've just forgotten that French and British "helped" Poles in the same way in 1939, Czechs year earlier, selling ally to the enemy. Churchill in 1939 said very clever thing – Britain had to choose peace or war, it chose peace, but it will get the war, nonetheless.
The same rubbish, told the British and the French in 1938 and 1939. In 1940, however, they had to change the attitude and way of thinking. Too late.

Bizarre, you support the breakup of the UK and the national independence of its peoples but you're claiming Brexit is bad for us?

I wrote many times, my opinion about UK-EU relations. BOTH SIDES ARE TO BLAME!

EU is to blame for obvious reasons. But UK is to blame for other reasons. UK has never been a part of Europe, at least, not since its creation in early 18th Century. So, British Euroscepticism is something completely different than Scottish Euroscepcism or French one. And British will be to blame for the looming social-economic catastrophy in case of "no-deal"scenario. Definitely not EU. I wrote, very clearly, what should UK do – it should stay in the Single Market and in the Customs Union, at least for 5 years after 2019. To deliver smooth, pragmatic transition. Only people, who are ignorants and who do not understand how Global Capitalism works, may say otherwise.

In the end, UK-EU relations (or English-EU) relations should look like these, between Switzerland and EU. Scottish-EU relations should look like these between Norway/Iceland and EU.

I still believe, that leaving Single Market is a mistake, because it will harm many sectors of British economy, not only financial sector, which is a good news, but first and foremost "my sector" of Food and Drink.

What's the most interesting is the U-turn of Michael Gove, Agriculture secretary who speaks about allowing workers from EU (and not only) to work freely. It is possible, that UK may stay within the Single Market for some time, through EEA or partially, through Swiss model. Leaving Single Market has no sense.

As of today, hard Brexit is the most plausible outcome and it will mean, recession, that's for sure. If one year, after EU referendum, UK economy slows to nil, despite having very good prospects, before the EU referendum, situation is pretty bad. British economy is based on domestic consumption and import of goods. This import is being balanced by an export of services. We may only imagine, what will be the effect of accidental leave of the Single Market. Import will become much more costly, due to return of tariff and non-tariff barriers. Import from EU, may be costlier of about 40-50% in case WTO model. In case of 0% tariff scheme it it may be about 25% costlier (due to non-tariff briers, return of the customs clearance). Services sector will loose the access to the Single Market, rising their overall operating cost, sharply.

So, recession is inevitable, it may not be as deep as in 2008-2009 but it may last for long. Generally speaking, part of the "Project Fear" might become a reality. Good sign for supporters of UK integrity.

I want to remind, that about 45 % of food, consumed in Britain is imported, mostly from EU. About 70% of consumer goods, sold in Britain are of non-UK origin. Britain and especially England is too little to make its own furniture and many other product, made for domestic purposes. What about apparel?

I wrote, that for me personally, Brexit is a great thing, because Britain is a net importer of food and it must import it, from the close distances. You cannot import perishable goods from Africa, Asia or Americans. It's nonsense. So, even if WTO tariffs were imposed and the whole customs clearance restored, British consumers will be made to pay. Even 100 GBP for a strawberry small basket, if necessary. I monitor the situation and still think about starting a "Brexit business". I'd like to see other - exists as well. If EU were up to be dissolved as a whole, it would a paradise.

So, let the Very Hard Brexit, begins. The worse for the British, the better for me!

On the other side, Brexit is creating so many opportunities, that very few are going to complain in the coming years. For example, eastern Poland, which is the main source of fruits in the country, should embrace Brexit fully and start signing contracts with British retail chains. Since there will not be "British fruits" anymore and a lot of British farmers are going to relocate their production to other countries.

That's all I have to say.

Fascism is the only proven defence against an international conspiracy of this magnitude.

Sorry, but I've never considered myself as a Fascist and I've always considered myself as an anti-Imperialist. Nationalism is an anti-thesis for Imperialism and Colonialism.

Fascism is about the State, Fascism is nothing more than a mixture of Nationalism and Socialism/Etatism. One can be a Nationalist, but not Fascist, Dmowski and my humble person is the best example. I can live without the State, but not without ethnic/racial, national and culture identity and loyalty to my ethnic/racial, national-cultural group. This is the very essence of Nationalism, including its economic and social system. Etatists/Socialists prefer strong State, I do not need it and consider it as a threat to the freedom of the people. I deliberately do not use word "personal freedom" because it is a part of the Liberal thinking. So, Socialism is about the State, just like Fascism. National Socialism, implemented by Hitler was a mixture of Socialism and Fascism, National Bolshevism goes even farther, thankfully it has never been implemented in practice, although Russia and China go in this direction.

I refuse both Socialism/Fascism and Liberalism/Conservatism, because they are not bringing the essence of Corporatism and Nationalism – Freedom and Dignity for All Families, Nations and Races in the world.

Marxism is an another story.

Thank you, you're too kind. And for a Pole, you seem to know much about life in the UK. Doubtless a current or former migrant worker salty about the Brexit vote?

No, but I visited your country many times. For jobs and life prospects, Norway, Switzerland, or even Germany/Austria is far more interesting and better, than your miserable salaries, bad public services, crappy and overpriced housings, add to this high taxes, a.o. .

 

[Mainländer]

There is something seriously strange going on in Poland.
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This was 2012, imagine now.

I bet Albania is the most patriarchal country in Europe.

 

[Gengar]

I bet Albania is the most patriarchal country in Europe.

It is tbh ngl, I'm quite sure in that.

Spoiler

I live in the same area.

 

[Mainländer]

It is tbh ngl, I'm quite sure in that.

Spoiler

I live in the same area.

I'm happy for you, boyo. Can't you arranged marry maxx there or something?

 

[Gengar]

I'm happy for you, boyo. Can't you arranged marry maxx there or something?

EE is not that conservative bro, probably not even Albania except in quite rural places. This is not Middle East or Curryland.

 

[Mainländer]

EE is not that conservative bro, probably not even Albania except in quite rural places. This is not Middle East or Curryland.

I guess being more conservative than Western Europe doesn't mean much. Even Sodoma and Gomorrah were.

 

[Akkadian]

There is something seriously strange going on in Poland.
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This was 2012, imagine now.

They want refugee cock

 

[Insomniac]

Europe has been lost since 1945. The bullet that killed Hitler was also the final death blow for Europe.

 

[StaroRavager]

Europe has been lost since 1945. The bullet that killed Hitler was also the final death blow for Europe.

I hate to do this to you bro, but this is the perfect time

 

[Insomniac]

I hate to do this to you bro, but this is the perfect time
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It’s true though. Compare Europe then to Europe now. The decline is depressingly obvious.

 

[Homoculus]

Tbh. I don't think we even have someone from Albania on the forum.

It's a European country like no other. It looks askew from the air. In most of Europe, human settlements are nestled in valleys. In Albania, they're on the tops of mountains. Why? It's easier to defend a mountaintop than a valley. The Law of Lek rules. It's full of feud etiquette. Women are exempted from feuding unless they choose to become "in blood". They have to wear only men's clothing thereafter.

 

[StaroRavager]

It’s true though. Compare Europe then to Europe now. The decline is depressingly obvious.

Yes, things are certainly shit over in Europe and it’s been going to shit for decades. However, no one can truly know how things would play out if the Axis powers had won. Nobody ever questions if they would be successful at holding their newfound territories for a significant period of time. There’s many factors that go into running and maintaining such a large amount of land and we don’t have enough information to predict wether or not they could actually handle all of the logistics that go into it

 

[Insomniac]

Yes, things are certainly shit over in Europe and it’s been going to shit for decades. However, no one can truly know how things would play out if the Axis powers had won. Nobody ever questions if they would be successful at holding their newfound territories for a significant period of time. There’s many factors that go into running and maintaining such a large amount of land and we don’t have enough information to predict wether or not they could actually handle all of the logistics that go into it

Maybe but we likely wouldn’t have seen the rise of feminism and thus degeneracy in the west if the Axis had prevailed. That makes it more than worth it in my view.

 

[StaroRavager]

Maybe but we likely wouldn’t have seen the rise of feminism and thus degeneracy in the west if the Axis had prevailed. That makes it more than worth it in my view.

How would the doctrine prevail if the machine behind it had been disposed of

 

[Smallus Dickus]

It's bad but still better than western Europe. I mean I still at least feel like I'm in Europe, in my city the only non-polish I ever see are Ukrainians. Oh and there's one or two Vietnamiese working in restaurant business. it's good to feel in your country like in home, even if in terms of wealth your home is shit in comparison to some(not all) neigbours.

 

[uninstall]

It’s true though. Compare Europe then to Europe now. The decline is depressingly obvious.

it's only going to get worse

the birth rate is stupid low

 

[Johny.speiz]

EE is not that conservative bro, probably not even Albania except in quite rural places. This is not Middle East or Curryland.

Very well said.

Eastern Europe is being ruled by the political Left, since 1944, first, 45 years of Marxism, complete annihilation of social values and turning the whole strata pyramid, upside down, then Liberals came in 1989 and continued the process of moral and social devastation.

Results can be visible everywhere in Eastern Europe, in Romania for example, where a contemporary PM and a devoted Marxist, sorry, "Social Democrat", speaks about killing Hungarians, living in Transsilvania. The true face of the Marxist Left!

And just like in Europe, we have more Conservative countries and more Liberal ones, then in USA, Americans have more Liberal States(like California, Washington) and more Conservative (like Texas, Missouri). And Europe has even its "swing-states". Like Poland, Austria which are both, Liberal and Conservative.


I do not see many positive sides of V4 or rather V3 (Poland is rather like Ukraine on steroids, than country comparable to Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia). How can you say that country with no domestic retail, with no domestic banking sector, with no domestic middle class can be considered as "good places to live"? I am bored of buying grocery in Portuguese, German, British, French, Lithuanian stores. Yes, I do buy grocery still in Polish stores and I do have bank account in Polish, state-owned bank (PKO BP). But, besides of official, Kaczyńskis "patriotic" policies, our economy is being more and more dependent on Western capital. Poland, just like Czechia, Slovakia are neo-colonies of the West, of Global Capital.
Practically, I do not see any bigger difference between Poland and our southern neighbours. Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia are full of EU companies in services sector. I could call our countries, de facto EU-owned countries.


Thanks to mixture of Liberalism and Socialism, Central-Eastern Europe is an economic Eldorado for multi-nationals, not only from EU. Examples from Czech Republic. Your main confectionery producer, Orion is owned by Swiss world-giant, Nestle. Your biggest cookies producer, Opava, by American Mondelez. Your whole retail is dominated by Western, mostly German, but also Swiss, Austrian and British companies. This is Liberalism, definitely not Conservatism or Corporatism. And what do Socialists have to offer? More Conservatism? More Corporatistm? No, more Socialism. Sorry, but we have had Socialism for more than 4 decades, here. I do want and I do not need any "foreign capital" in my country, especially in the food sector or in retail.

Czech society is far more "liberal" than most of Western societies. Take Norway, Finland, Ireland, Austria, Switzerland. These societies are in many ways, far more Conservative than the Czech one.
Czech Republic is not and will never become Hungary, since it is a completely different mentality and completely different world. Even in comparison to the neighbouring, Slavic, Poland.
Looking from outside, I see very clearly, that Czech Republic is in very bad moral and mental shape, just like any other, post-Communist country in Intermarium.

When it comes to Czech Republic and your alleged "Liberalism", it is a complete bullshit. Czechs are none else than bunch of Hypocrites with enormous national complex and a German complex. Just like Poles, who are not willing to accept, that our place is in Central Europe, between West and East, not as a "Western colony". Just like in case of an ideology, Poland is very centrist, both Liberal and a Conservative country. And abortion laws, in Poland are exactly centrist, abortion is fully legal, but only in specific cases. Problem lies not in abortion, but rather in social and mental issues, too many women are becoming mothers before they are mature enough. Besides, there is not much social and public support for motherhood, still.

Everyone who considers Poland, as ruled by "nationalists" is an idiot.
Polish ruling party Law and Justice (PiS) is purely populist, pro-EU, pro-US, pro-Israel, anti-Polish party, which only uses "patriotic" rhetoric. Mr. Waszczykowski, well-known neo-Conservative, die hard supporter of Atlanticism, Isreal and US domination on the Western sphere is a political cynic and a clown. Just like the rest of the Law and Justice party and so called "United Right" coalition. Yet, Morawiecki is rather Polish Sarkozy. He is Conservative, not a Liberal, like Macron. He supports traditional, Conservative values, like Traditional (nuclear) Family, like traditional Catholic/Christian values and so on.


Besides, there is literally not a difference between PiS and Liberal "opposition". Both PiS and PO/Nowoczesna Liberals are pro-Western, pro-NATO, pro-EU oriented, anti-National traitors. They only tend to use "patriotic" language and indeed they tend to be driven by clericalism. Yet, modern Catholic Church in Poland is very modern and mostly, due to these reasons it cannot be a moral "soul" for anti-Liberal, Conservatism-oriented or Nationalism-oriented Poles.


You should rather say, thank God for Hungary. Orban is a populist politician, just like Kaczyński. He acts wisely, only due to the popular support for rightist, anti-Liberal and anti-Marxist policies and the fact, that the main opposition party to Orban's Fidesz is a Nationalist party, Jobbik.


But if we compare Hungary to other countries in Eastern Europe, like Slovakia, Romania or Croatia, situation there is no worse, when it comes to people's preferences. Even among Romanian Social-Democrats, support for Marxist ideas like "homo-marriages" stands very low. Romania's PSD, ruling party is nothing more than an ex-Communist Law and Justice. Romanian Social-Democrats, remind Czech or Slovak ones, like Zeman or Fico. They do not support Liberal-Marxist juice, coming from the West. Very few people, among Polish "old-guard" in ex-Communist, SLD party, support homo-marriages or massive immigration of Arabs, Muslims, Blacks into Europe.


It is mostly, due to the fact, than in Eastern Europe, with the exception of Poland, maybe Ukraine, political scene is not fully developed. Only in Poland, party in Ukraine, political Left is represented by Liberals and political Right, by Conservatives. In Ukraine, Communist Party was banned after Maidan 2013 Revolution. Social-Democracy is very weak there, although it is the Liberal government and Liberal president who rule modern Ukraine.


Only in Poland, Liberal vs Conservative balance is evident.


Slovakia is definitely far more rightist-leaning, more Conservative, more "provincial", etc.


I could risk a thesis, that German-speaking lands have become the last remnants of "normality" in Western Europe, next to Ireland. The proximity of Visegrad Group and rest of Central-Eastern European countries, close relations with its Conservative or Liberal-Conservative members, like Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, enhance the Conservatism. Bavaria for example is still very Conservative in many areas, not only rural ones.

 

[mybodyisrotting]

Europe has been lost since 1945. The bullet that killed Hitler was also the final death blow for Europe.

 

[Michael15651]

Eastern europe is hell. Cunts are very materialistic here, since everybody is so poor.

 

[Johny.speiz]

Yep, I've got a Masters (although it is in a useless field), and I make $300 a month. Most people that are not in IT, dentistry or well-connected lawyers make around this much.

This really hits home.

Eastern europe is hell. Cunts are very materialistic here, since everybody is so poor.

It's bad but still better than western Europe. I mean I still at least feel like I'm in Europe, in my city the only non-polish I ever see are Ukrainians. Oh and there's one or two Vietnamiese working in restaurant business. it's good to feel in your country like in home, even if in terms of wealth your home is shit in comparison to some(not all) neigbours.

I don't think your society is lost, it's only going down. But after this "hell" that your are living there are even worse things.

It has pretty good history. History that I enjoyed learning of tbh.

I read books, about the Western, popular reactions on the Solidarity movement. One, focused on France.

People in Western Europe, did not realize what Solidarity was fighting for. Not for "Democracy" or "free elections", but for Freedom and Dignity of the ordinary people. Main principles of Solidarity movement were purely Corporatist. Who ruled Poland at the time? Communists, Marxists, Socialists. Political Left. The same people, who rule EU now and who rule in many European countries, like Sweden. So, if you want to speak about Solidarity, you should change the tape. Solidarity was fighting against Marxism-related Hypocrisy. Hence, it was an anti-Marxist, anti-Liberal, National-Corporatist movement. Today, Solidarność supports may, pro-social policies of the ruling Conservative party, Law and Justice. Ask yourself, why?

 

[slavcel]

So it's been proven once again: The Fuhrer was right.
Invading Poland was an excellent decision and it should have stayed German.
Danzig ist Deutsch!

Except for this that Fuhrer was actually a Jew

 

[tanfeo]

Except for this that Fuhrer was actually a Jew

Has not been proven. His grandfather may have been jewish but there is no certainty about that.
If you go that route, Heydrich also had jewish blood. Nevertheless he was a high ranking SS official.

 

[slavcel]

Has not been proven. His grandfather may have been jewish but there is no certainty about that.
If you go that route, Heydrich also had jewish blood. Nevertheless he was a high ranking SS official.

E1B1 haplogroup kiddo, Hitler belonged to it and it is most common haplogroup among Sephardi Jews. Heydrich was, but it was only because Hitler was a zionist pawn who killed real National Socialists in 1934.

 

[tanfeo]

E1B1 haplogroup kiddo, Hitler belonged to it and it is most common haplogroup among Sephardi Jews. Heydrich was, but it was only because Hitler was a zionist pawn who killed real National Socialists in 1934.

You can leave "kiddo" out. I'm probably older than you are.
Anyway, I see where you are coming from but it is still speculation:

The accuracy of some of the coverage arising from this study was questioned. Professor Michael Hammer of Family Tree DNA said that "scientific studies as well as records from our own database[,] make it clear that one cannot reach the kind of conclusion featured in the published articles." Citing Family Tree DNA's own data that shows that more than 9% of the German and Austrian population belong to E-M35, and that about 80% of these are not Jewish, Hammer concluded, "[t]his data clearly shows that just because one person belongs to the branch of the Y-chromosome referred to as haplogroup E1b1b, that does not mean the person is likely to be of Jewish ancestry

Of course, if you are Polish you will be inclined to fantasize about the Fuhrer's origins. jews do it all the time.
Both of my grandfathers actively served the German war effort.
My father, only a boy during that time, is still a fan of NS Germany and would most likely have enlisted in the ranks of the SS or even HJ.

 

[slavcel]

You can leave "kiddo" out. I'm probably older than you are.
Anyway, I see where you are coming from but it is still speculation:



Of course, if you are Polish you will be inclined to fantasize about the Fuhrer's origins. jews do it all the time.
Both of my grandfathers actively served the German war effort.
My father, only a boy during that time, is still a fan of NS Germany and would most likely have enlisted in the ranks of the SS or even HJ.

So go and praise Jesse Owens and I am not fantazising. There is more proof than this. For example, someone was giving Hitler's father's uncle money out of nowhere (uncle took custody where Alois's father died) and how do you think, who or rather (((who))) gave it? And what's more Hitler had the same goal as Rotschild family. For example, Nathan Rotschild wrote in his letters to his brother James about total destruction of Russia. And by (((coincidence))) one hundred years ago Hitler is carrying out the same plan, although no one earlier in German politics introduced it (the maximum of German ambitions in the east in pre-Hitler era was annexation of Crimea and Baltic states), and some of German right-wingers even wasted to ally with Soviets against liberals (Junger brothers, early Goebbels or Hans von Seeckt). What's more White Russian emigrees helped the foundation of early NSDAP (Organization Aufbau) and introduced the idea of Judeo-Bolshevism (core for the later NSDAP). So what's left?Hitler was outright executing Rotschild plan and used Germans as a pawn. And in addition, if you were born east of Elbe you are in fact Slav (or even a Pole, many Poles were assimilated by a Germans) LARPing as a German.

 

[allbluee]

In 2016 i was in Krakow and thousands of people were protesting against the abortion laws to make cuckoldry and cheating easier. I was bluepilled back then

Here a pic that I took in october 2016

OP is definetely right. Poland is total garbage. I am feeling sad about the polish men. Their own women would rather date a refugee than someone of their own nationality.

 

[SUH]

JFL at a brit complaining about nonwhite EEs. Look at your (((John Oliver))) and (((Mr.Bean))). Pure anglos.


As for capitalism, fuck capitalism. I want to work in a worker's cooperative. Fuck making your own business.

 

[Johny.speiz]

So go and praise Jesse Owens and I am not fantazising. There is more proof than this. For example, someone was giving Hitler's father's uncle money out of nowhere (uncle took custody where Alois's father died) and how do you think, who or rather (((who))) gave it? And what's more Hitler had the same goal as Rotschild family. For example, Nathan Rotschild wrote in his letters to his brother James about total destruction of Russia. And by (((coincidence))) one hundred years ago Hitler is carrying out the same plan, although no one earlier in German politics introduced it (the maximum of German ambitions in the east in pre-Hitler era was annexation of Crimea and Baltic states), and some of German right-wingers even wasted to ally with Soviets against liberals (Junger brothers, early Goebbels or Hans von Seeckt). What's more White Russian emigrees helped the foundation of early NSDAP (Organization Aufbau) and introduced the idea of Judeo-Bolshevism (core for the later NSDAP). So what's left?Hitler was outright executing Rotschild plan and used Germans as a pawn. And in addition, if you were born east of Elbe you are in fact Slav (or even a Pole, many Poles were assimilated by a Germans) LARPing as a German.

History is very clear. If Germany did not sent to Russia and supported Lenin, there would not be Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. Without Lenin, Russia would have been still in the War, against Germany. Which means, that Germany would have lost the whole conflict, even without the American expeditionary force.

Everyone who is proficient in geopolitics, knows the "MittelEuropa" concept, written in 1915. Russia, Ukraine were up to be beaten, at all costs, Ukraine turned into the German satellite state. Whole Polish territory were up to be incorporated into German Reich. Claims, that Hitler "invented" Lebensraum is a complete idiocy. Lebensraum in the East was a German geopolitical concept, definitely not a "Nazi one".

But I do claim that. Weimar Republic was an official enemy of Poland, next to Soviet Russia. Stresseman was clearly anti-Polish. Hitler, until 1939 was very friendly to Poland and he clearly said, in Gdańsk, why he attacked Poland and why death of Piłsudski, prevented Hitler-Piłsudski-Mussollini Alliance.
On youtube there is full his speech, I won't quote this link, due to "obvious" purposes. If Piłsudski lived, Hitler would have become an ally of Poland. Together, Germans and Poles, would have saved Europe from the hands of Communism and Liberalism.

The only way to replace Marxism with National-Corporatism (you may call it Fascism, if you want)is to...do nothing. People will understand, that Nationalism is "alternativelos", also in Germany. German case is very specific, because of historical background. I said it and I will say once more, Hitler and his clique have betrayed Fascism and turned National-Socialism into National Darvinism. Yes, it was Darvinism which was responsible for German wrongdoings, definitely not Fascism, National-Corporatism or even National-Socialism. I could write a book about this and maybe I will write, because it makes me sick to read this crap. Europeans have been lied, by both Communists/Marxists and their fellow "allies", Liberals.

The only positive news is that Germany is no longer strong, even in comparison to Western European powers, like UK or France. It means, that Peace in Europe can be preserved.
And it would be much better for the whole Europe and the world, if an effect of 1945, were exactly the same as the Civil War in Spain. There were 2 sides in this War – Marxist scum and anti-Marxists. In Spain, thankfully, Marxists were defeated. In Europe, they have won, in both, Western and Eastern Europe. Now are struggling to save our future generations from the effects of this tragedy.

I repeat, everything what we witness today, in Europe and the world is an affect of Marxist Triumph in 1945.
And today there are only 2 sides, just like in Spain – them, Marxists and us, Europeans. To save Europe and to sustain peace, we have to destroy Marxism, once and for all. Alternative to this is complete annihilation, according to Lenin's remark "to make Revolution, win, 90% of humans must die".

You are fully right. I could say that this "Holocaust religion" is probably the main reason for...Antisemitism. People are sick and tired of hearing this crap about alleged "eternal victims". Hitler wrote clearly "Do whatever want with Jews, noone rememebers Armenians". It is exactly my point. We should not care about the this, because it is full of deliberate propaganda, supported by Western Liberals and Communists.
Communists were far worse in any possible way, than Germans and they were also Anti-semities, what's is very important, Marx himself was an Anti-Semite. I can only remember to all "anti-Fascists" and similar intellectual imbeciles that "German anti-Fascists" were Anti-Semites, too. Take Stauffenberg, 100% Anti-Semite. Germans are the biggest hypocrites, imaginable, they praise diehard Anti-Semite for being...who, Anti-Anti-Semite?

Cause of Anti-Semitism is simple. Jewish anti-Corporatism, support for Marxism, Communism, Liberalism and anti-Nationalism, support for Internationalism and Globalism. Eliminate all of them, introduce Nationalism and Corporatism, worldwide and you will get of rid of Anti-Semitism, forever.

In 2016 i was in Krakow and thousands of people were protesting against the abortion laws to make cuckoldry and cheating easier. I was bluepilled back then
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Here a pic that I took in october 2016
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OP is definetely right. Poland is total garbage. I am feeling sad about the polish men. Their own women would rather date a refugee than someone of their own nationality.

When it comes to abortion itself, Life starts when it starts, from the point of view of a biology. Have you ever had Biology class, in the school? Lurk into Wikipedia and read and about process of conception, how Life, begins. Masturbation has nothing to with it, it shows, they think in some weird, way.

One important fact, related to abortion. Where, in which country, abortion has become legal for the very first time? In France, Sweden, Czechoslovakia or some other "progressive, full of atheists", country? In Holland maybe? No, in the USSR. It was Soviet Union, under Lenin, which introduced legal and widely available abortion, for every woman. Lenin, Stalin are the very first proponents of abortion. I can only add, that under Hitler, access to abortion was also much easier, than in Fascist Italy or in Piłduski's Poland, when it was completely banned.
Conclusions?

 

[slavcel]

History is very clear. If Germany did not sent to Russia and supported Lenin, there would not be Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. Without Lenin, Russia would have been still in the War, against Germany. Which means, that Germany would have lost the whole conflict, even without the American expeditionary force.

Everyone who is proficient in geopolitics, knows the "MittelEuropa" concept, written in 1915. Russia, Ukraine were up to be beaten, at all costs, Ukraine turned into the German satellite state. Whole Polish territory were up to be incorporated into German Reich. Claims, that Hitler "invented" Lebensraum is a complete idiocy. Lebensraum in the East was a German geopolitical concept, definitely not a "Nazi one".

But I do claim that. Weimar Republic was an official enemy of Poland, next to Soviet Russia. Stresseman was clearly anti-Polish. Hitler, until 1939 was very friendly to Poland and he clearly said, in Gdańsk, why he attacked Poland and why death of Piłsudski, prevented Hitler-Piłsudski-Mussollini Alliance.
On youtube there is full his speech, I won't quote this link, due to "obvious" purposes. If Piłsudski lived, Hitler would have become an ally of Poland. Together, Germans and Poles, would have saved Europe from the hands of Communism and Liberalism.

The only way to replace Marxism with National-Corporatism (you may call it Fascism, if you want)is to...do nothing. People will understand, that Nationalism is "alternativelos", also in Germany. German case is very specific, because of historical background. I said it and I will say once more, Hitler and his clique have betrayed Fascism and turned National-Socialism into National Darvinism. Yes, it was Darvinism which was responsible for German wrongdoings, definitely not Fascism, National-Corporatism or even National-Socialism. I could write a book about this and maybe I will write, because it makes me sick to read this crap. Europeans have been lied, by both Communists/Marxists and their fellow "allies", Liberals.

The only positive news is that Germany is no longer strong, even in comparison to Western European powers, like UK or France. It means, that Peace in Europe can be preserved.
And it would be much better for the whole Europe and the world, if an effect of 1945, were exactly the same as the Civil War in Spain. There were 2 sides in this War – Marxist scum and anti-Marxists. In Spain, thankfully, Marxists were defeated. In Europe, they have won, in both, Western and Eastern Europe. Now are struggling to save our future generations from the effects of this tragedy.

I repeat, everything what we witness today, in Europe and the world is an affect of Marxist Triumph in 1945.
And today there are only 2 sides, just like in Spain – them, Marxists and us, Europeans. To save Europe and to sustain peace, we have to destroy Marxism, once and for all. Alternative to this is complete annihilation, according to Lenin's remark "to make Revolution, win, 90% of humans must die".

You are fully right. I could say that this "Holocaust religion" is probably the main reason for...Antisemitism. People are sick and tired of hearing this crap about alleged "eternal victims". Hitler wrote clearly "Do whatever want with Jews, noone rememebers Armenians". It is exactly my point. We should not care about the this, because it is full of deliberate propaganda, supported by Western Liberals and Communists.
Communists were far worse in any possible way, than Germans and they were also Anti-semities, what's is very important, Marx himself was an Anti-Semite. I can only remember to all "anti-Fascists" and similar intellectual imbeciles that "German anti-Fascists" were Anti-Semites, too. Take Stauffenberg, 100% Anti-Semite. Germans are the biggest hypocrites, imaginable, they praise diehard Anti-Semite for being...who, Anti-Anti-Semite?

Cause of Anti-Semitism is simple. Jewish anti-Corporatism, support for Marxism, Communism, Liberalism and anti-Nationalism, support for Internationalism and Globalism. Eliminate all of them, introduce Nationalism and Corporatism, worldwide and you will get of rid of Anti-Semitism, forever.

When it comes to abortion itself, Life starts when it starts, from the point of view of a biology. Have you ever had Biology class, in the school? Lurk into Wikipedia and read and about process of conception, how Life, begins. Masturbation has nothing to with it, it shows, they think in some weird, way.

One important fact, related to abortion. Where, in which country, abortion has become legal for the very first time? In France, Sweden, Czechoslovakia or some other "progressive, full of atheists", country? In Holland maybe? No, in the USSR. It was Soviet Union, under Lenin, which introduced legal and widely available abortion, for every woman. Lenin, Stalin are the very first proponents of abortion. I can only add, that under Hitler, access to abortion was also much easier, than in Fascist Italy or in Piłduski's Poland, when it was completely banned.
Conclusions?

So if I'm right respond PM, please. In addition, Hitler was meant to betray fascism. At some point, he was even working for Marxist Bavarian Soviet Republic. However it is proven that he entered DAP as a inflitrator of secret service with a task to take over the movement. So it was not a shift in Hitler's views who changed the face of NSDAP but more fact that Hitler was a executor of plan made by Rotschild family. He was meant to give people false hope and then to easily lose with Marxism. Lenin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin.

 

[Johny.speiz]

So if I'm right respond PM, please. In addition, Hitler was meant to betray fascism. At some point, he was even working for Marxist Bavarian Soviet Republic. However it is proven that he entered DAP as a inflitrator of secret service with a task to take over the movement. So it was not a shift in Hitler's views who changed the face of NSDAP but more fact that Hitler was a executor of plan made by Rotschild family. He was meant to give people false hope and then to easily lose with Marxism. Lenin and Hitler were two sides of the same coin.

Sorry, but it is misunderstanding. Laughable. I've been fighting the official line of Liberal-Marxist propaganda, related to WW2. This is rather the "positive" part of American Capitalism. Have you read "International Jew" of Henry Ford? If not, you should. It shows, why Adolf Hitler supported Henry Ford and vice versa. It was not because Hitler was against capitalism, but against Jewish capitalists. I want to remind the fact, I found only yesterday, that Hitler supported capitalists with whom, earlier members of NSDAP were fighting. Hitler betrayed the idea of national socialism, the same as Ford became a hypocrite, because he fought with Jews as competitors. "Jews were bad, because they were strong economically", that's why Ford was diehard antisemitic, that's why Wall-Street and many big American corporations (like General Motors, IBM, Ford and many more)supported Hitler. Earlier Ford was investing in Soviet Union and greatly admired Lenin's "New Economic Policy" (which was nothing more than a mixture of communism and capitalism).
This perception is another and another example of Prussian propaganda, which shapes your worldview. Prussia and Russia were barbaric, imperialist powers, it were Prussian thinkers who first wanted to eliminate Jews physically, Hitler did only, what Prussian philosophers invented (and what Muslim mufti of Jerusalem proposed to him). Prussia/German Empire was an Empire of Evil, the same as Russia.
Germany supported installation of Communism in Russia, so, once more, Germany is to blame.
I could give 10 more arguments against Germany. As for today, Germans still do not understood who and what was to blame. Definitely not Fascism nor National Socialism.

Iti s true, Hitler was a Nazi, but he was not a National Socialist, he rather betrayed the idea and early NSDAP itself. Do you remember who were the Strasser brothers? National Socialists and enemies of Hitler, one of them, was killed during the Night of the Long Knifes. If someone believes in National Socialism, it is his right, but it does not mean is a Nazi. Or anyone related to Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels or some other cranks. Frankly speaking, for a nationalist, there are only 2 ways to follow – national socialist or national radical. The latter is dominating political movements, nowadays, it is related to Christianity (or to Islam in Muslim countries), more conservative. National socialists are rather national-internationalists who believe in "Slavic, Germanic, Aryan, any other, unity". Svoboda was created as a national-socialist party, but it evolved (just like Golden Dawn)into national-radical party. In fact, national-radicals are less radical than national socialists. As I said, many times, there is a huge difference, between the picture of nationalists and their real activities. Liberal or socialists, but also conservative governments are far worse for the ordinary people, than these "Nazi-like monsters". Besides, Svoboda was a part of post-Maidan government. So?

Roman Dmowski, wrote very correctly, that Germans deserve strong leadership, but Hitlerism is too militaristic and too brutal and based mostly on "godless" Nietscheanism. It is true that German Capitalists supported Hitler, but not only German one, foreign ones too. US Capitalists supported not only German economy but the Soviet one. Soviets supported Nazi Germany so massively, that it was de facto Soviet resources which helped Germans defeating France and conquer half of Europe. Without Soviet help, Germans would have been too weak.
One has to remember, that the "fascist" model of economy and society existing not only in Germany, Italy, Portugal or Greece, but also in Poland, Romania, Vichy France, Quisling Norway and Kemalist Turkey

I consider that Poland died in 1939, unfortunately, due to its own fault (Hitler attacked Poland, although he had no such plans until late April 1939). Poland was destroyed by its own morons in power, like Beck (a drunkard with mental illness) and the rest of Sanacja. As long as Polish people did not recognize it and do not do something to implement the truly National-Democratic rule, free of Liberal-Democratic pathology and chaotic Parliamentary system.

 

[slavcel]

Sorry, but it is misunderstanding. Laughable. I've been fighting the official line of Liberal-Marxist propaganda, related to WW2. This is rather the "positive" part of American Capitalism. Have you read "International Jew" of Henry Ford? If not, you should. It shows, why Adolf Hitler supported Henry Ford and vice versa. It was not because Hitler was against capitalism, but against Jewish capitalists. I want to remind the fact, I found only yesterday, that Hitler supported capitalists with whom, earlier members of NSDAP were fighting. Hitler betrayed the idea of national socialism, the same as Ford became a hypocrite, because he fought with Jews as competitors. "Jews were bad, because they were strong economically", that's why Ford was diehard antisemitic, that's why Wall-Street and many big American corporations (like General Motors, IBM, Ford and many more)supported Hitler. Earlier Ford was investing in Soviet Union and greatly admired Lenin's "New Economic Policy" (which was nothing more than a mixture of communism and capitalism).
This perception is another and another example of Prussian propaganda, which shapes your worldview. Prussia and Russia were barbaric, imperialist powers, it were Prussian thinkers who first wanted to eliminate Jews physically, Hitler did only, what Prussian philosophers invented (and what Muslim mufti of Jerusalem proposed to him). Prussia/German Empire was an Empire of Evil, the same as Russia.
Germany supported installation of Communism in Russia, so, once more, Germany is to blame.
I could give 10 more arguments against Germany. As for today, Germans still do not understood who and what was to blame. Definitely not Fascism nor National Socialism.

Iti s true, Hitler was a Nazi, but he was not a National Socialist, he rather betrayed the idea and early NSDAP itself. Do you remember who were the Strasser brothers? National Socialists and enemies of Hitler, one of them, was killed during the Night of the Long Knifes. If someone believes in National Socialism, it is his right, but it does not mean is a Nazi. Or anyone related to Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels or some other cranks. Frankly speaking, for a nationalist, there are only 2 ways to follow – national socialist or national radical. The latter is dominating political movements, nowadays, it is related to Christianity (or to Islam in Muslim countries), more conservative. National socialists are rather national-internationalists who believe in "Slavic, Germanic, Aryan, any other, unity". Svoboda was created as a national-socialist party, but it evolved (just like Golden Dawn)into national-radical party. In fact, national-radicals are less radical than national socialists. As I said, many times, there is a huge difference, between the picture of nationalists and their real activities. Liberal or socialists, but also conservative governments are far worse for the ordinary people, than these "Nazi-like monsters". Besides, Svoboda was a part of post-Maidan government. So?

Roman Dmowski, wrote very correctly, that Germans deserve strong leadership, but Hitlerism is too militaristic and too brutal and based mostly on "godless" Nietscheanism. It is true that German Capitalists supported Hitler, but not only German one, foreign ones too. US Capitalists supported not only German economy but the Soviet one. Soviets supported Nazi Germany so massively, that it was de facto Soviet resources which helped Germans defeating France and conquer half of Europe. Without Soviet help, Germans would have been too weak.
One has to remember, that the "fascist" model of economy and society existing not only in Germany, Italy, Portugal or Greece, but also in Poland, Romania, Vichy France, Quisling Norway and Kemalist Turkey

I consider that Poland died in 1939, unfortunately, due to its own fault (Hitler attacked Poland, although he had no such plans until late April 1939). Poland was destroyed by its own morons in power, like Beck (a drunkard with mental illness) and the rest of Sanacja. As long as Polish people did not recognize it and do not do something to implement the truly National-Democratic rule, free of Liberal-Democratic pathology and chaotic Parliamentary system.

But the difference is that you believe in sincerity of Hitler's intentions. I do not. Hitler was liar, who didn't even believe in what he told, so it's irrelevant to this matter. Slaughtering of Strasserite fraction is a proof that Hitler was in fact serving Jews by carving out a plan including destruction of masses of Europeans. Why Prussia is evil? Is it Prussian (or Russian) fault that Poland in pre-partition times was run by degenerate morons, who let sluts come into power (remember Frederick the Great's quote - "Poland is a state which is run by dumb drunkards who are controlled by even dumber whores")? No, it's Polish own fault of adopting a degenerate ideology akin to modern liberalism, called "Sarmatism" (it was basically a Liberalism for nobility). I definitely do not see anything evil in Russian (or German) Empire. Independent Poland was more liberal than these states. Every state deserves strong leadership. The weak leadership creates weak, pussified men who are not eager to stand up against (((elite))). The republics create beta cucks who are more than ready to enact Marxist/Liberal laws. Poles deserve strong leadership too (and many of them are descendants of Germans). Yes, I am not denying support of both Soviet and "Nazi" regime by Capitalists. But the reason behind this is the both regimes were in fact an element of Rotschild plan of destruction of white race. Real National Socialists killed in 1934 were a non-shill oppositon of Rotschild rule and that's why Adolf "Hitler" (in fact, Rothschild) had them killed in first place. Fuck abrahamic religions and fuck (((national-radicals))), who are clinging to outdated ideas of ethnonationalism. Race is the most valuable thing in life, not some false bonds based on language (and language can be easily changed during a generation's lifetime). It's good, that so called "national-socialists" are internationalists. Nation is meaningless. Race is meaningful. I can show you on an example (three examples):

Here is Heino - a German musician

Here is Piotr Adamczyk - an Polish actor

Here is Alexander Godunov - a Russian dancer So, if this three Aryan-looking men (I don't praise their attitude, I only mentioned them because of their Aryan looks and googleability) are fighting in the war and slaughtering each other - who benefits? Jews and the enemies of Europe (niggers, Asians, curries). But if they (and their nations) are not fighting with each other and use their combined forces against niggers and Jews, who benefits? Europe. So we need to build a real European unity, based on neither any of abrahamic religions or Marxism (who is a distorted form of Christianity), but based on European racial and spiritual heritage - Paganism.

 

[Johny.speiz]

But the difference is that you believe in sincerity of Hitler's intentions. I do not. Hitler was liar, who didn't even believe in what he told, so it's irrelevant to this matter. Slaughtering of Strasserite fraction is a proof that Hitler was in fact serving Jews by carving out a plan including destruction of masses of Europeans. Why Prussia is evil? Is it Prussian (or Russian) fault that Poland in pre-partition times was run by degenerate morons, who let sluts come into power (remember Frederick the Great's quote - "Poland is a state which is run by dumb drunkards who are controlled by even dumber whores")? No, it's Polish own fault of adopting a degenerate ideology akin to modern liberalism, called "Sarmatism" (it was basically a Liberalism for nobility). I definitely do not see anything evil in Russian (or German) Empire. Independent Poland was more liberal than these states. Every state deserves strong leadership. The weak leadership creates weak, pussified men who are not eager to stand up against (((elite))). The republics create beta cucks who are more than ready to enact Marxist/Liberal laws. Poles deserve strong leadership too (and many of them are descendants of Germans). Yes, I am not denying support of both Soviet and "Nazi" regime by Capitalists. But the reason behind this is the both regimes were in fact an element of Rotschild plan of destruction of white race. Real National Socialists killed in 1934 were a non-shill oppositon of Rotschild rule and that's why Adolf "Hitler" (in fact, Rothschild) had them killed in first place. Fuck abrahamic religions and fuck (((national-radicals))), who are clinging to outdated ideas of ethnonationalism. Race is the most valuable thing in life, not some false bonds based on language (and language can be easily changed during a generation's lifetime). It's good, that so called "national-socialists" are internationalists. Nation is meaningless. Race is meaningful. I can show you on an example (three examples): View attachment 89399 Here is Heino - a German musician View attachment 89400 Here is Piotr Adamczyk - an Polish actor View attachment 89401 Here is Alexander Godunov - a Russian dancer So, if this three Aryan-looking men (I don't praise their attitude, I only mentioned them because of their Aryan looks and googleability) are fighting in the war and slaughtering each other - who benefits? Jews and the enemies of Europe (niggers, Asians, curries). But if they (and their nations) are not fighting with each other and use their combined forces against niggers and Jews, who benefits? Europe. So we need to build a real European unity, based on neither any of abrahamic religions or Marxism (who is a distorted form of Christianity), but based on European racial and spiritual heritage - Paganism.

You mean, we should totally deny Nationalism, but embrace Fascism and National-Socialism, am I right? Wow, I am very surprised of such conclusion coming from your mouth. In case of Nationalism and Fascism or rather Autocratic National-Corporatism I could agree. I've never been a fan of National-Socialism, though.

Complete idiocy, only a crank person or a cynical criminal can say such a thing. My answer is Nature/God exist, because I exist. I, means myself and myself is based on both matter/body and immaterial mind.

You underestimate the power of the Dark Force. I'm not joking, Dark Force/Satanism/Pure Evil really exist. And I call it Marxism, although the word Materialism is probably better and easier to understand. This force is dominating the world, nowadays. I have the feeling, that it was only gaining momentum and when I look at history, it was getting stronger in geometric momentum.

Nationalism is not a European "problem", but the root of the whole Order in the world. First Humans on Earth were Nationalists, who believed in Nature and Nature Law. Belief in God or Gods were after, the Naturalist Heathenism. In every pre-Christian or Animanist belief, Gods were representing Nature and its elements. People who do not believe in neither God nor Nature are nothing else, than bunch of zombies. Homo-parasites, who live, on this world, without a reasonable purpose
I base my beliefs on Science, on nothing else. And since Europe is a homeland of the White Race, it must stay this way, in the future. Our ancestors were White, according to the newest research, they have nothing in common with Africa. Your claims were completely untrue and are based on Marxist, Materialist Utopia.

I am critical towards Europe, though. Once more, Poland has to stand up to defend Europe and its True Values. Just like in 1683, where die hard Catholic, Sobieski, against the will of the Polish Nobility, which wanted to support Turkey, against the Habsburgs, saved Vienna. He saved Germany from Islamization, then. And now, who is going to save Germany? And how? Poland is not the same country as it was, before 1939 and definitely like in late 17th Century. Just like Catholic Church is not the same, as it was, then. Now, it is de facto, the Troyan Horse.

People from countries, which do not have apprioprate experience, cannot and must not, teach other people from countries with different experience. I do not teach French, what they should do with the Arabs, I can give only my opinion. Hungary was occupied by Turks for long period of time, Slovakia, Czechia was part of the Habsburg Empire for even longer time. Poland was partitioned by both Russia and German states of Prussia and Austria. We have been struggling and fighting for independence enough. We are not willing to give our independence to same illegal immigrants or some Soviet-like, supra-National organization.

Exacerbated nationalism mythologize the past history of each country and glorify it by disguising reality with patriotic lies.
Because, in the times of troubles, historical glorious past is a remedy. Poles, under the partitions or under German-Soviet occupation have survived, only because of our history-based patriotism. And history is the best teacher, not only for the Nations, but for single individuals. Rational person, evaluates the past and try not to do the same wrongdoings. Nations should do, exactly the same.

Patriotism is a primordial feeling, everyone who is reasonable is a patriot, from localism, regionalism to nationalism. Nationalism, I deliberately use the capital letter is an "active Patriotism". Everyone should care about his/her own place first, then about the other places. I have to care care, about my home first, only after about my neighbour. "My" comes first, it is so obvious, that I see no need to repeat it.

Poles are very patient nation, we have lived under every possible occupation, we will struggle but prevail also under this one. Freedom and Dignity shall prevail, therefore, EU, KOD and Kijowski shall fail.

Germany is our common threat, not only to Poland, but also to Denmark (Danes hate Germans for the Prussian-Danish War and German occupation of Denmark 1940- 1945), Norway, Sweden. Germany as a "natural ally" for Russia is also a threat for countries like Finland, Baltics. So Nordic Union, I mean Nordic Countries+Baltics, should join Intermarium Union to defend against German-Russian threat and cooperate more strictly to boost mutual economic, social and cultural trade.

Difference between Poland and Hungary is, that Hungarians are even more Conservative than Poles, who are Conservative-Liberal society, open for the world, pro-Western one. Hungarians are more "pro-Eastern", what I personally like, because I think, that Poland should embrace its old tradition of Sarmatism and become a bridge between West and the East, defending Western Conservative-Liberal values, like it did in 1683 and 1920 (totally opposite to the modern Liberal term you insinuate above).

Poland in 16th-18th Centuries was "noble democracy", a system which I could call an oligarchy, it failed, unreformed in late 18th Century with the partitions.

Jobbik represent this "pro-Eastern" face of Hungarian nation. What's important, in Hungary, unlike in Poland, there is no Liberal tradition, on the contrary, Hungary has dark Marxist past, it was the first Communist country in the Europe (Bela Kun dictatorship of 1919).

Furthermore, Orban was a "Liberal" in 1989, because he fought against Communism, yet, he understood, that Western Liberal and EU itself, represent exactly the same values, today, as Soviet Communism – lack of freedom, disdain to other people, arrogance, hubris of those in power. Why Western Europe critisized Orban? Because he did not wanted to be their slave.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

Poland is such a shithole tbh.

People are rude too. Zero introspection.

 

[Johny.speiz]

Poland is such a shithole tbh.

People are rude too. Zero introspection.

When disastrous system of Soviet-imposed Marxist Socialism collapsed, Eastern Europe adopted one another disastrous system – Liberal Capitalism. Despite all the successes in terms of rise of GDP, social cost was immense. Not in Estonia, which is small, but in big countries, like Poland, Romania and especially in Ukraine. Ukraine is a country of beggars, ruled by rich oligarchs. Russia is also ruled by ex-Communist plutocrats, but its population is in better social-economic shape.

Generally speaking, Estonia, in comparison to the rest of Eastern Europe is in the best condition, next to Slovenia. One has to remember, that Estonia was occupied by Soviets for 50 years, which devastated everything, what could be devastated.

People, who did not visit any ex-Soviet republic/Eastern Bloc, do not know, what the word "primitive" or "degenerated" means. I criticize Western Europe for its degeneration and primitive mentality. Trust me, East is in worse shape, in every possible meaning.

 

[slavcel]

You mean, we should totally deny Nationalism, but embrace Fascism and National-Socialism, am I right? Wow, I am very surprised of such conclusion coming from your mouth. In case of Nationalism and Fascism or rather Autocratic National-Corporatism I could agree. I've never been a fan of National-Socialism, though.

Complete idiocy, only a crank person or a cynical criminal can say such a thing. My answer is Nature/God exist, because I exist. I, means myself and myself is based on both matter/body and immaterial mind.

You underestimate the power of the Dark Force. I'm not joking, Dark Force/Satanism/Pure Evil really exist. And I call it Marxism, although the word Materialism is probably better and easier to understand. This force is dominating the world, nowadays. I have the feeling, that it was only gaining momentum and when I look at history, it was getting stronger in geometric momentum.

Nationalism is not a European "problem", but the root of the whole Order in the world. First Humans on Earth were Nationalists, who believed in Nature and Nature Law. Belief in God or Gods were after, the Naturalist Heathenism. In every pre-Christian or Animanist belief, Gods were representing Nature and its elements. People who do not believe in neither God nor Nature are nothing else, than bunch of zombies. Homo-parasites, who live, on this world, without a reasonable purpose
I base my beliefs on Science, on nothing else. And since Europe is a homeland of the White Race, it must stay this way, in the future. Our ancestors were White, according to the newest research, they have nothing in common with Africa. Your claims were completely untrue and are based on Marxist, Materialist Utopia.

I am critical towards Europe, though. Once more, Poland has to stand up to defend Europe and its True Values. Just like in 1683, where die hard Catholic, Sobieski, against the will of the Polish Nobility, which wanted to support Turkey, against the Habsburgs, saved Vienna. He saved Germany from Islamization, then. And now, who is going to save Germany? And how? Poland is not the same country as it was, before 1939 and definitely like in late 17th Century. Just like Catholic Church is not the same, as it was, then. Now, it is de facto, the Troyan Horse.

People from countries, which do not have apprioprate experience, cannot and must not, teach other people from countries with different experience. I do not teach French, what they should do with the Arabs, I can give only my opinion. Hungary was occupied by Turks for long period of time, Slovakia, Czechia was part of the Habsburg Empire for even longer time. Poland was partitioned by both Russia and German states of Prussia and Austria. We have been struggling and fighting for independence enough. We are not willing to give our independence to same illegal immigrants or some Soviet-like, supra-National organization.

Exacerbated nationalism mythologize the past history of each country and glorify it by disguising reality with patriotic lies.
Because, in the times of troubles, historical glorious past is a remedy. Poles, under the partitions or under German-Soviet occupation have survived, only because of our history-based patriotism. And history is the best teacher, not only for the Nations, but for single individuals. Rational person, evaluates the past and try not to do the same wrongdoings. Nations should do, exactly the same.

Patriotism is a primordial feeling, everyone who is reasonable is a patriot, from localism, regionalism to nationalism. Nationalism, I deliberately use the capital letter is an "active Patriotism". Everyone should care about his/her own place first, then about the other places. I have to care care, about my home first, only after about my neighbour. "My" comes first, it is so obvious, that I see no need to repeat it.

Poles are very patient nation, we have lived under every possible occupation, we will struggle but prevail also under this one. Freedom and Dignity shall prevail, therefore, EU, KOD and Kijowski shall fail.

Germany is our common threat, not only to Poland, but also to Denmark (Danes hate Germans for the Prussian-Danish War and German occupation of Denmark 1940- 1945), Norway, Sweden. Germany as a "natural ally" for Russia is also a threat for countries like Finland, Baltics. So Nordic Union, I mean Nordic Countries+Baltics, should join Intermarium Union to defend against German-Russian threat and cooperate more strictly to boost mutual economic, social and cultural trade.

Difference between Poland and Hungary is, that Hungarians are even more Conservative than Poles, who are Conservative-Liberal society, open for the world, pro-Western one. Hungarians are more "pro-Eastern", what I personally like, because I think, that Poland should embrace its old tradition of Sarmatism and become a bridge between West and the East, defending Western Conservative-Liberal values, like it did in 1683 and 1920 (totally opposite to the modern Liberal term you insinuate above).

Poland in 16th-18th Centuries was "noble democracy", a system which I could call an oligarchy, it failed, unreformed in late 18th Century with the partitions.

Jobbik represent this "pro-Eastern" face of Hungarian nation. What's important, in Hungary, unlike in Poland, there is no Liberal tradition, on the contrary, Hungary has dark Marxist past, it was the first Communist country in the Europe (Bela Kun dictatorship of 1919).

Furthermore, Orban was a "Liberal" in 1989, because he fought against Communism, yet, he understood, that Western Liberal and EU itself, represent exactly the same values, today, as Soviet Communism – lack of freedom, disdain to other people, arrogance, hubris of those in power. Why Western Europe critisized Orban? Because he did not wanted to be their slave.

We should deny nationalism and embrace what we can call "national-socialism", although it is more a label than a description, because in reality both nationalism and socialism are a Jewish, Christianity-descended ideologies, who were meant to destroy Europe and my views are neither nationalist (they are extremely racist, but I prefer white, German-speaking German than sandnigger who happened to speak Polish) or socialist (not every state infuence in economy is socialism, and in fact I am rooting for authoritarian corporatism) What I really support is sort of racist pan-Europeanism seeking to create an European ethnostate based on Oswald's Mosley idea and totally rejecting any form of Liberalism and so-called Western values (in fact, they are not created by whites but rather by (((certain chosenites))) and their servants). Nationalism didn't exist since XIXth century. The creation of early nationalism was directly connected to the early liberalism, and in fact first nationalists were liberals - Herder, Mickiewicz, Robespierre can serve as a proof. The Pagan societies didn't have any form of nationalism (dividing people based solely on language). Vikings were taking Slavs, Balts and Finns as their comrades with no hesitation. They divided people based on tribes, monarchs or looks, but they didn't care about language at all. And "Paganism" was not the same in every country. Aryan paganism was not the same as nigger "paganism" and even Aryan paganism existed in numerous variations across the Europe and Asia. Nationalism is not a natural feeling, it is a loyalty to the unnatural concept of nation governing itself and creating states. It was always a monarch or aristocracy, who created states. Masses creating stated (necessary for nationalism) didn't exist until (((French Revolution))) came. When I stated that our ancestors come from Africa? I didn't say that. Of course, that our Aryan ancestors didn't have anything in common with fucking nigger filth. They came from Atlantis (yes, I do believe it existed) and Europe must stay a homeland to White Aryana Race. But is existence of nationalism supporting Aryans? Not, it is dividing Aryans among language division (completely irrelevant, more than a half of Poles can trace ancestry to some Germans). So by supporting nationalism you are supporting Aryan race commiting suicide. Dark Force? I believe that it exist. And the name of this force is Armenoids, who are plotting to cut Aryans off their spiritual heritage, described by Georges Dumezils (the Wiseman/Warrior/Worker tripatrio). Armenoids are behind Abrahamic faiths, Marxism, Liberalism, who are only a forms of the same threat meant to destroy Europe. Why should I care if Sobieski defended one Abrahamic cancer from another Abrahamic cancer? It's not like Germany was going to stop being white, so why should I care? And in fact, nobility didn't want to support Turkey. It'd mean conquests in the West and more power for King. They wanted (for example, "egzulanci" the faction of nobility from lost Podolia, who rooted for reconquest of their holdings) to take back lost Ukrainian territories. Why should I care about independence? Poland ended in 1505, when degenerate Nihil Novi law was enacted. The indepedence for Poland meant always more liberalism - 1918 and fall of conservative empires of Germany, Russia and Austro-Hungary is a proof. Liberalism is killing my race (and race is a biological fenomenon, unlike nation who is an artificial phenomenon), so I don't support more liberalism even if it means no independence for Poland. Poles regained independence not because their own actions (in fact, they only worsened situation - for example failed November Uprising, who caused the Congress Kingdom to cease to exist), but only because of luck and WWI. Kijowski is already nothing, KOD is a muppet show but EU will not fall. We should only purify the EU from leftism and abandon Intermarium delusion. Sarmatism was a form of degeneracy. Poland, if anything should embrace it's Vandal root and tradition of great leaders as Bolesław I or Kazimierz III not some cucks chosen by mob. Hungary had as much liberal tradition as Poland but was saved by Habsburgs from this menace. Hungarians, however are in fact more tied to East because Hungarians came from Ural.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Slowly the whole world will be lost.

 

[Smallus Dickus]

On youtube there is full his speech, I won't quote this link, due to "obvious" purposes. If Piłsudski lived, Hitler would have become an ally of Poland. Together, Germans and Poles, would have saved Europe from the hands of Communism and Liberalism.

We can only speculate, but it wouldn't really change course of history. Probably Hitler would still attack France, Soviet possibly would either attack Poland and disable her from the war, or just wait. Hitler would still eventually attack Soviets, Americans would still eventually join the war. Less Poles would be killed, and most certainly more polish Jews would survive. But eventually Germans would lost. Poland was in reality third tier power, with quite big army but awfully ineffective, especially as offensive force. I don't remember exact numbers but in 1939 Germans had like milions civil cars, while whole Poland had less than 100k(40k I think?). Even hundreds of thousands of new soldiers on eastern front would mean in the end nothing, as main problems were lack of natural resources(mainly oil but not only), logistic problems(Soviet union was big as hell, and they had factories even quite far east). Not to mention that if Hitler signed pact with Poland, Stalin would believe that Hitler wants to attack SU. In our world he was quite shocked when Germany attacked him, in alternate universe he would be expecting that. Not to mention that Germans learned a lot in their campaign in Poland, and they needed resources and money as Germany was on brink of bankrupcy. So probably war would be more or less the same, although for me most probably scenario is that Germans attack France in late 1939, but can't defeat as fast as in 1940(French are not changing their strategy, and lean more to defense, and Germans are not as effective because of lack of experience), SU attacks in 1940 opening new front, and majority of war take place in Poland. Why it's most probable? Because no matter what, Poland is always the most fucked country in any big european war

 

[Adûnâi]

The entire White race is a rotting, smelly corpse. Eastern Europe is dying out a bit slower than the rest. And I'm not even sure whether they have the highest chance to survive - their population has no guns, and instead has quite a few illusions about the West.

At the same time, Eastern Euro's biggest advantage is the purity of our [Mongol] blood - because there are very few immigrants to these shitholes. And as long as GG is not written, the chance for the victory remains.

 

[Johny.speiz]

We should deny nationalism and embrace what we can call "national-socialism", although it is more a label than a description, because in reality both nationalism and socialism are a Jewish, Christianity-descended ideologies, who were meant to destroy Europe and my views are neither nationalist (they are extremely racist, but I prefer white, German-speaking German than sandnigger who happened to speak Polish) or socialist (not every state infuence in economy is socialism, and in fact I am rooting for authoritarian corporatism) What I really support is sort of racist pan-Europeanism seeking to create an European ethnostate based on Oswald's Mosley idea and totally rejecting any form of Liberalism and so-called Western values (in fact, they are not created by whites but rather by (((certain chosenites))) and their servants). Nationalism didn't exist since XIXth century. The creation of early nationalism was directly connected to the early liberalism, and in fact first nationalists were liberals - Herder, Mickiewicz, Robespierre can serve as a proof. The Pagan societies didn't have any form of nationalism (dividing people based solely on language). Vikings were taking Slavs, Balts and Finns as their comrades with no hesitation. They divided people based on tribes, monarchs or looks, but they didn't care about language at all. And "Paganism" was not the same in every country. Aryan paganism was not the same as nigger "paganism" and even Aryan paganism existed in numerous variations across the Europe and Asia. Nationalism is not a natural feeling, it is a loyalty to the unnatural concept of nation governing itself and creating states. It was always a monarch or aristocracy, who created states. Masses creating stated (necessary for nationalism) didn't exist until (((French Revolution))) came. When I stated that our ancestors come from Africa? I didn't say that. Of course, that our Aryan ancestors didn't have anything in common with fucking nigger filth. They came from Atlantis (yes, I do believe it existed) and Europe must stay a homeland to White Aryana Race. But is existence of nationalism supporting Aryans? Not, it is dividing Aryans among language division (completely irrelevant, more than a half of Poles can trace ancestry to some Germans). So by supporting nationalism you are supporting Aryan race commiting suicide. Dark Force? I believe that it exist. And the name of this force is Armenoids, who are plotting to cut Aryans off their spiritual heritage, described by Georges Dumezils (the Wiseman/Warrior/Worker tripatrio). Armenoids are behind Abrahamic faiths, Marxism, Liberalism, who are only a forms of the same threat meant to destroy Europe. Why should I care if Sobieski defended one Abrahamic cancer from another Abrahamic cancer? It's not like Germany was going to stop being white, so why should I care? And in fact, nobility didn't want to support Turkey. It'd mean conquests in the West and more power for King. They wanted (for example, "egzulanci" the faction of nobility from lost Podolia, who rooted for reconquest of their holdings) to take back lost Ukrainian territories. Why should I care about independence? Poland ended in 1505, when degenerate Nihil Novi law was enacted. The indepedence for Poland meant always more liberalism - 1918 and fall of conservative empires of Germany, Russia and Austro-Hungary is a proof. Liberalism is killing my race (and race is a biological fenomenon, unlike nation who is an artificial phenomenon), so I don't support more liberalism even if it means no independence for Poland. Poles regained independence not because their own actions (in fact, they only worsened situation - for example failed November Uprising, who caused the Congress Kingdom to cease to exist), but only because of luck and WWI. Kijowski is already nothing, KOD is a muppet show but EU will not fall. We should only purify the EU from leftism and abandon Intermarium delusion. Sarmatism was a form of degeneracy. Poland, if anything should embrace it's Vandal root and tradition of great leaders as Bolesław I or Kazimierz III not some cucks chosen by mob. Hungary had as much liberal tradition as Poland but was saved by Habsburgs from this menace. Hungarians, however are in fact more tied to East because Hungarians came from Ural.

Please use paragraphs, it makes it easier to read.

You think strange. Actually, you do not want anything. But that with power.
I want Normality. Normal Society with normal people with normal rules, based on the Natural Law. Yes, to bring the Order in my country, but also in Europe, we must embrace Nationalism, we must embrace Corporatism. We must get rid of all, Marxist and Communist elements, spread by this Red Venom since the 1789. 
I can say openly, that we live in the state of permanent conflict and War. War and Conflict is a natural state, eternal state. But only, if live live in the degenerated society. And nearly all modern societies, except of some "primitive" ones, living deep in the South America, Asia or in Africa, are truly primitive and degenerated. Germany is definitely one of the most primitive and degenerated society on Earth, next to Sweden, Netherlands, England, France, USA, Russia, Japan, China and many others. It is Liberalism, Capitalism, Socialism, Communist, Individualism, Feminism, Equality and other "anti-Natural" elements, which made our societies, degenerated.

What is wrong in National Corporatism, eh? It is the most rational, the most "European" idea, ever created. Plato, Aristotele, in many ways also Socrates were Corporatists. Christianity bases itself on Corporatism, other great religions or philosophical systems (like Confutianism)too. You live in some weird reality and you are not able to wake up. Wake up, man!

You seek the problem in the wrong place. You blame Abrahamic Religion, but you should blame Secularism and Atheism. Religion and Spirituality is a major element of the human psyche, everyone in the world.
This contradicts a little of your theory that accuses Religion.
I do not speak about Atheism, but about Marxism and Materialism. You can be non-believer, an agnostic and a Corporatist. I write all the time – Corporatism is nothing more than a True Religion, the Truth, based on believe in Nature and Natural Law. No matter if you are a Pagan, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim or any one. You must believe in Nature and Natural Law, because they are primordial and eternal. Universe exist only for some time, Nature is eternal. So, people who believe in God, believe in Nature. These who do not believe in God, believe in Nature as well. I personally think, that it is even easier to understand this truth, when you are an Atheist or Agnostic. Nature is above us, it is eternal and has no restrictions. It simply exists. We exists, this world exists, because of Nature.

All Religions, like Christianity, Islam, Paganism and many others, also these not related to deity (like Confucianism)have the same particle – Corporatism. Christianity is definitely better than Atheism, because it is based on Corporatism. Majority of non-religious people are proponents of "equality" or are degenerated Nihlists without any moral norms. 
Beeing an Agnostic I definitely support Religion as an important element of promotion of Corporatist values. I was shocked, when I first opened the Bible and found, that nearly everything what I read, sounds like my own thought. The most popular Jesus phrase " know your place". 
Try to say something like that in public. You will be considered as an "anti-democrat" or a...fascist. It only shows, that Bible is fascist book. Very good for me. Religion is about the faith but also about the Rules. And these Rules are the backbone of healthy society. Society must be based on Rules and Order. Nationalism is based on Corporatism, because every Nation is different and people, within the National Body/Organism, differ from one another.

Ideology itself is a form of religion. People without the ideology or without religion, cannot live normally. Everyone needs an ideology or a religion, because everyone must believe in something. Atheism is the name of the Marxist religion, although I distinguish between pure Anti-theism and Atheism. Pure Atheism is rather early form of Agnosticism which in fact is nothing more than a Paganism. Our predecessors in Europe, who believed in Wotan, Perun, Jupiter, Zeus, Athena and others, were Agnostics who believed in Nature. Zeus was a Master of the Thunder, Neptun was a Master of the Water and so on. I am a proponent of revival of pre-Christian, Pagan beliefs in Europe, since they are more primordial and more natural. 
I forgot to mention, even stronger religion, dominating Europe these days – Consumptionism. Believe in wealth and consumption, this is what this article stands for. Mr Barroso, changed his Marxist believs into Consumptionism and believe in the "500 Euro Bill" God. 
Everyone needs a God, not matter if its Hitler, Marx, Jesus, Perun, 500 Euros/100 US Dollars bills, a Celebrity or anything else.

Nationalism is a modern form of Tribalism and Tribalism is a primordial, the oldest form of political entity. Our ancestors, in the stone age, were Tribalists. But it is not about Nation, but also ethnicity and culture. Hungarians are one of these specific nations, in Europe, where ethnicity, culture, language give very strong Nationalism basis. Ethnically, much of Hungarians are Slavic peoples, just but they only speak Hungarian language. But this "linguistic-cultural loneliness" produced so strong national identity, among Hungarians. That's why they stand tall, against the Marxist-driven, anti-Hungarian and anti-European thought, destroying Europe for so long.

Sarmatian period? You must have studied political sciences and Polish history at some Higher School of Political Sciences and Hairstyling. If history is of any value, it's when you learn your lessons from it.
Exactly, it's a pity, that "historians" who rules this country acts in the same stupid way as some anchestors (mostly not Poles, but Germans or Swedish who were Polish kings). I know history very well and I can say only few things, related to our position in the world:
1. Poland had never had friends, only interests, even such "eternal friends" like Hungary acted not fully in Polish interests, but their own (normal for me).
2. Germany and Austria have never been Polish allies or friends, have always been geopolitical enemies or rivals. So, any kind of "pro-German, pro-EU orientation" is nothing more than an act of anti-Polish sabotage. Poland should take example from countries like Sweden, Finland or France, Germany and act in their, nationalist, egoistic interest.
3. Poland has always been ruled by intelligent people with poor advisors or imbeciles with intelligent advisors. So, it is high time to create a direct democracy, just like in Switzerland or create an personal dictatorship, like under Piłsudski or in Russia now.

Nazis are also only dangerous if there are too many. The comparison you will not like, but for that very reason.
I see no difference in the persecution of dissenters. And also not in terms of racism. The "true believers" replaces the Aryan. Islam is politics – there is no reason to protect. German National Socialism had nothing do with Aryanism. I always laugh on these "who is Aryan" arguments among Western "neo-nazis" or "white supremacists". Stormfront forum was best place for that, that's why I no longer support these idiots who are strong, only beeing aunonymous in the internet. I remember, how many times, I read, slogans "Slavs are not Aryans". Weird, because I thouth, that Slavic people are the closests genetically to the Sarmatian-Aryan peoples. Aryan means Indoiranian, Persian, Pashtu and others, including Kurds (although it is rather linguistic not ethnic meaning). Sarmatians were Aryans, too. India was invaded by Aryan peoples, around 1500 BC and to this very day, India uses Swastika widely, as an important religious and cultural symbol.

So called "neo-nazis" are nationalists, sometimes white supremacists, but even in Japan there are racial supremacists who might be called "neo-nazis". I know how to differ a neo-nazi and a nationalist, because I have experience and contacts with such people, although I've never been a part of any nationalist or neo-nazi organization. Russians who called Ukrainian nationalists "nazis" act in typical Russian way. Russia has always been supporting Prussian and German nationalism and it is radical Prussian, then German nationalism which was transformed into National-Socialism. Nazi Germany was nothing more than a Prussia with Nazi elements. Even SS Tottenkopf symbol has roots in Prussian symbols, used during the Napoleonic Wars (Schwarze Schar). 
You live in your own reality, it is high time to wake up.

EU is a product of both, Marxist and Liberal, self-called, elites. Although, in the very beginning, European integration was formed on the Catholic-Corporatist, ideas. So, if we really want to think about "restart of the European Idea", we must return to our Corporatist, Christian-Pagan, roots.

So, you support EU which is dominated by Marxist and by Liberalism, hence it is a totalitarian and destructible. 
If you help, in destruction of this, pointless, destructible, totalitarian, anti-National, anti-European, criminal organization, we could start discussions about post-EU, pan-European, semi-National, semi-Regional, institution.
But first, EU is up to be destroyed!
Fascists like you do too, manipulative hypocrite, for a white, pagan/atheist and imperialist new Europe. Something that has no reality and no chance to win.

Europe must find this alternative, not fascism nor national-socialism, which are historically bankrupt, but some kind of optimal, natural system, suitable for majority of Europeans. To find it, Europe must face its annihilation, just like during collapse of Roman Empire. 
It found something new, better, in medieval times. It lasted for hundreds of years. Medieval times, were definitely more civilized period than contemporary one.

To misunderstand my comment is not an intellectual masterpiece, Mr. Scientist.
You already wrote, that you have problem with Religion, in general. I do not. I have bigger respect for Liberal Conservative Muslim societies, like this of Tunisia, Turkey or Indonesia, than to degenerated Marxist-Liberal societies of Germany, Netherlands, England, Sweden, where people tend to be Nihilists. We owe no favors to either Jews or Muslims, we have to think back to ourselves first.

But I agree that there must be cohesion in the society that binds all the individual together.
You speak like Corporatist, here. Essential question is – what is this glue? Is it a Civic Citizenship? I highly doubt. As example of Western Europe shows, such features like ethnic background, religion are more important for the people, who came to Europe, from outside, than French "republican values". France is the best case to observe, I could also add Sweden. Marxist experiments, which failed in these 2 countries showing the grim prospects for the future of Europe.

People who criticize Sweden and France are reluctant to see, that it is the historical experience, decades of domination of political left, social experiments, cultural Marxism, which turned these 2 countries, once powerful European Powers (in both cases, 17th Century was a peak of their powers, France dominated Western Europe, Sweden dominated big parts of Eastern Europe) into a complete backwater. 
As long as France, I'll say it roughly, stinks, Western Europe is lost. UK is lost already, because it cannot even reform itself and its breakup is inevitable. Germany is not enough, because it cannot solve European problems, solely, even with Visegrad Group. Italy and Spain are nowadays completely irrelevant countries which can only observe the European Big Picture. 
We, Central-Eastern Europeans must be more opened for the outside world, especially for the East and South, on Asia and Africa.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

When disastrous system of Soviet-imposed Marxist Socialism collapsed, Eastern Europe adopted one another disastrous system – Liberal Capitalism. Despite all the successes in terms of rise of GDP, social cost was immense. Not in Estonia, which is small, but in big countries, like Poland, Romania and especially in Ukraine. Ukraine is a country of beggars, ruled by rich oligarchs. Russia is also ruled by ex-Communist plutocrats, but its population is in better social-economic shape.

Generally speaking, Estonia, in comparison to the rest of Eastern Europe is in the best condition, next to Slovenia. One has to remember, that Estonia was occupied by Soviets for 50 years, which devastated everything, what could be devastated.

People, who did not visit any ex-Soviet republic/Eastern Bloc, do not know, what the word "primitive" or "degenerated" means. I criticize Western Europe for its degeneration and primitive mentality. Trust me, East is in worse shape, in every possible meaning.

Stop scapegoating your countries problems on the west. You have had plenty of opportunities to progress.

 

[AlwaysLawRoute]

Is there even a single part of the world that's not lost anymore? Western Europe and North America are getting fucked as well,maybe the nordic countries if you don't count Sweden but I've heard that the socialists have quite the power in those places too.Japan is sucking the West's tranny cock and China is too subhuman to even consider.

 

[Michael15651]

The entire White race is a rotting, smelly corpse. Eastern Europe is dying out a bit slower than the rest. And I'm not even sure whether they have the highest chance to survive - their population has no guns, and instead has quite a few illusions about the West.

 

[Johny.speiz]

Stop scapegoating your countries problems on the west. You have had plenty of opportunities to progress.

Where are you from?

Humanity has learned to benefit from the learning of ancestors.
Indeed, but only this part, which is worth enough and intelligent enough. People are different and many are not even able to learn from their own experience.

Wisdom is exactly what depends on the life-learning. Intelligent person who is wise, is able to learn from its own experience, not to commence the same, continuous mistakes. Larger groups, the same, but not every. Polish society today for example still is utterly stupid and naive. Many wise Poles, especially Polish statesmen, like Dmowski, Piłsudski and others have wrote a lot about the mistakes, committed by the Polish Nation, in the past. Yet, only few, contemporary people, in Poland fully understand that, what they meant. But in fact, so called "popular wisdom", among the ordinary folk is exactly the same, as the works of these people. Germans have learnt a lot from the past, especially from the last 200 years experiences. Yet, they still commit the same mistakes, as an ethnic and cultural community, as Nation. Despite wise voices, coming from many sides of the "folk". I could add such a guy, like Theo Sarrazin, a leftist policitian, from SPD, whom I like to read (I read his books, downloaded from the web) and hear.

Yet, too many people are still committing the same mistakes, as in the past, despite all these wise voices around.

Why? That's the clue.

 

[slavcel]

Please use paragraphs, it makes it easier to read.

You think strange. Actually, you do not want anything. But that with power.
I want Normality. Normal Society with normal people with normal rules, based on the Natural Law. Yes, to bring the Order in my country, but also in Europe, we must embrace Nationalism, we must embrace Corporatism. We must get rid of all, Marxist and Communist elements, spread by this Red Venom since the 1789. 
I can say openly, that we live in the state of permanent conflict and War. War and Conflict is a natural state, eternal state. But only, if live live in the degenerated society. And nearly all modern societies, except of some "primitive" ones, living deep in the South America, Asia or in Africa, are truly primitive and degenerated. Germany is definitely one of the most primitive and degenerated society on Earth, next to Sweden, Netherlands, England, France, USA, Russia, Japan, China and many others. It is Liberalism, Capitalism, Socialism, Communist, Individualism, Feminism, Equality and other "anti-Natural" elements, which made our societies, degenerated.

What is wrong in National Corporatism, eh? It is the most rational, the most "European" idea, ever created. Plato, Aristotele, in many ways also Socrates were Corporatists. Christianity bases itself on Corporatism, other great religions or philosophical systems (like Confutianism)too. You live in some weird reality and you are not able to wake up. Wake up, man!

You seek the problem in the wrong place. You blame Abrahamic Religion, but you should blame Secularism and Atheism. Religion and Spirituality is a major element of the human psyche, everyone in the world.
This contradicts a little of your theory that accuses Religion.
I do not speak about Atheism, but about Marxism and Materialism. You can be non-believer, an agnostic and a Corporatist. I write all the time – Corporatism is nothing more than a True Religion, the Truth, based on believe in Nature and Natural Law. No matter if you are a Pagan, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim or any one. You must believe in Nature and Natural Law, because they are primordial and eternal. Universe exist only for some time, Nature is eternal. So, people who believe in God, believe in Nature. These who do not believe in God, believe in Nature as well. I personally think, that it is even easier to understand this truth, when you are an Atheist or Agnostic. Nature is above us, it is eternal and has no restrictions. It simply exists. We exists, this world exists, because of Nature.

All Religions, like Christianity, Islam, Paganism and many others, also these not related to deity (like Confucianism)have the same particle – Corporatism. Christianity is definitely better than Atheism, because it is based on Corporatism. Majority of non-religious people are proponents of "equality" or are degenerated Nihlists without any moral norms. 
Beeing an Agnostic I definitely support Religion as an important element of promotion of Corporatist values. I was shocked, when I first opened the Bible and found, that nearly everything what I read, sounds like my own thought. The most popular Jesus phrase " know your place". 
Try to say something like that in public. You will be considered as an "anti-democrat" or a...fascist. It only shows, that Bible is fascist book. Very good for me. Religion is about the faith but also about the Rules. And these Rules are the backbone of healthy society. Society must be based on Rules and Order. Nationalism is based on Corporatism, because every Nation is different and people, within the National Body/Organism, differ from one another.

Ideology itself is a form of religion. People without the ideology or without religion, cannot live normally. Everyone needs an ideology or a religion, because everyone must believe in something. Atheism is the name of the Marxist religion, although I distinguish between pure Anti-theism and Atheism. Pure Atheism is rather early form of Agnosticism which in fact is nothing more than a Paganism. Our predecessors in Europe, who believed in Wotan, Perun, Jupiter, Zeus, Athena and others, were Agnostics who believed in Nature. Zeus was a Master of the Thunder, Neptun was a Master of the Water and so on. I am a proponent of revival of pre-Christian, Pagan beliefs in Europe, since they are more primordial and more natural. 
I forgot to mention, even stronger religion, dominating Europe these days – Consumptionism. Believe in wealth and consumption, this is what this article stands for. Mr Barroso, changed his Marxist believs into Consumptionism and believe in the "500 Euro Bill" God. 
Everyone needs a God, not matter if its Hitler, Marx, Jesus, Perun, 500 Euros/100 US Dollars bills, a Celebrity or anything else.

Nationalism is a modern form of Tribalism and Tribalism is a primordial, the oldest form of political entity. Our ancestors, in the stone age, were Tribalists. But it is not about Nation, but also ethnicity and culture. Hungarians are one of these specific nations, in Europe, where ethnicity, culture, language give very strong Nationalism basis. Ethnically, much of Hungarians are Slavic peoples, just but they only speak Hungarian language. But this "linguistic-cultural loneliness" produced so strong national identity, among Hungarians. That's why they stand tall, against the Marxist-driven, anti-Hungarian and anti-European thought, destroying Europe for so long.

Sarmatian period? You must have studied political sciences and Polish history at some Higher School of Political Sciences and Hairstyling. If history is of any value, it's when you learn your lessons from it.
Exactly, it's a pity, that "historians" who rules this country acts in the same stupid way as some anchestors (mostly not Poles, but Germans or Swedish who were Polish kings). I know history very well and I can say only few things, related to our position in the world:
1. Poland had never had friends, only interests, even such "eternal friends" like Hungary acted not fully in Polish interests, but their own (normal for me).
2. Germany and Austria have never been Polish allies or friends, have always been geopolitical enemies or rivals. So, any kind of "pro-German, pro-EU orientation" is nothing more than an act of anti-Polish sabotage. Poland should take example from countries like Sweden, Finland or France, Germany and act in their, nationalist, egoistic interest.
3. Poland has always been ruled by intelligent people with poor advisors or imbeciles with intelligent advisors. So, it is high time to create a direct democracy, just like in Switzerland or create an personal dictatorship, like under Piłsudski or in Russia now.

Nazis are also only dangerous if there are too many. The comparison you will not like, but for that very reason.
I see no difference in the persecution of dissenters. And also not in terms of racism. The "true believers" replaces the Aryan. Islam is politics – there is no reason to protect. German National Socialism had nothing do with Aryanism. I always laugh on these "who is Aryan" arguments among Western "neo-nazis" or "white supremacists". Stormfront forum was best place for that, that's why I no longer support these idiots who are strong, only beeing aunonymous in the internet. I remember, how many times, I read, slogans "Slavs are not Aryans". Weird, because I thouth, that Slavic people are the closests genetically to the Sarmatian-Aryan peoples. Aryan means Indoiranian, Persian, Pashtu and others, including Kurds (although it is rather linguistic not ethnic meaning). Sarmatians were Aryans, too. India was invaded by Aryan peoples, around 1500 BC and to this very day, India uses Swastika widely, as an important religious and cultural symbol.

So called "neo-nazis" are nationalists, sometimes white supremacists, but even in Japan there are racial supremacists who might be called "neo-nazis". I know how to differ a neo-nazi and a nationalist, because I have experience and contacts with such people, although I've never been a part of any nationalist or neo-nazi organization. Russians who called Ukrainian nationalists "nazis" act in typical Russian way. Russia has always been supporting Prussian and German nationalism and it is radical Prussian, then German nationalism which was transformed into National-Socialism. Nazi Germany was nothing more than a Prussia with Nazi elements. Even SS Tottenkopf symbol has roots in Prussian symbols, used during the Napoleonic Wars (Schwarze Schar). 
You live in your own reality, it is high time to wake up.

EU is a product of both, Marxist and Liberal, self-called, elites. Although, in the very beginning, European integration was formed on the Catholic-Corporatist, ideas. So, if we really want to think about "restart of the European Idea", we must return to our Corporatist, Christian-Pagan, roots.

So, you support EU which is dominated by Marxist and by Liberalism, hence it is a totalitarian and destructible. 
If you help, in destruction of this, pointless, destructible, totalitarian, anti-National, anti-European, criminal organization, we could start discussions about post-EU, pan-European, semi-National, semi-Regional, institution.
But first, EU is up to be destroyed!
Fascists like you do too, manipulative hypocrite, for a white, pagan/atheist and imperialist new Europe. Something that has no reality and no chance to win.

Europe must find this alternative, not fascism nor national-socialism, which are historically bankrupt, but some kind of optimal, natural system, suitable for majority of Europeans. To find it, Europe must face its annihilation, just like during collapse of Roman Empire. 
It found something new, better, in medieval times. It lasted for hundreds of years. Medieval times, were definitely more civilized period than contemporary one.

To misunderstand my comment is not an intellectual masterpiece, Mr. Scientist.
You already wrote, that you have problem with Religion, in general. I do not. I have bigger respect for Liberal Conservative Muslim societies, like this of Tunisia, Turkey or Indonesia, than to degenerated Marxist-Liberal societies of Germany, Netherlands, England, Sweden, where people tend to be Nihilists. We owe no favors to either Jews or Muslims, we have to think back to ourselves first.

But I agree that there must be cohesion in the society that binds all the individual together.
You speak like Corporatist, here. Essential question is – what is this glue? Is it a Civic Citizenship? I highly doubt. As example of Western Europe shows, such features like ethnic background, religion are more important for the people, who came to Europe, from outside, than French "republican values". France is the best case to observe, I could also add Sweden. Marxist experiments, which failed in these 2 countries showing the grim prospects for the future of Europe.

People who criticize Sweden and France are reluctant to see, that it is the historical experience, decades of domination of political left, social experiments, cultural Marxism, which turned these 2 countries, once powerful European Powers (in both cases, 17th Century was a peak of their powers, France dominated Western Europe, Sweden dominated big parts of Eastern Europe) into a complete backwater. 
As long as France, I'll say it roughly, stinks, Western Europe is lost. UK is lost already, because it cannot even reform itself and its breakup is inevitable. Germany is not enough, because it cannot solve European problems, solely, even with Visegrad Group. Italy and Spain are nowadays completely irrelevant countries which can only observe the European Big Picture. 
We, Central-Eastern Europeans must be more opened for the outside world, especially for the East and South, on Asia and Africa.

Repeat once again. Nationalism is an artifcial creation and there is nothing natural about it. Nationalism is a bastard of French Revolution (the same that you criticize so much, and you're right in this case). Maximilian Robespierre was the first nationalist being in power and he destroyed France. He contributed to murder of a King (guarding Natural Law in France), he created a first (((nation-state))), which is actually a state run by extremely dumb mob manipulated by Jewish-paid demagogues. Rise of nationalism is directly connected to rise of liberalism, because in fact idea of a nation as a political factor requires the idea of universal suffrage to arise. Nationalism equals liberalism and greatly contributed to creation of degeneracy, which is ruling Western world right now. No. Religions rise from spiritual outlook of it's creators. And this outlook is greatly shaped by race and personal experience of these creators. And there are prophetic and non-prophetic religions (paganism is for example non-prophetic), so there is nothing common about origins of most widespread religions. Marxism is a secular form of Christianity. It is based on the same principle of absolute universal equality. The difference is that Christianity (mostly) keeps this equality spiritual, and Marxism wants to reach these equality in our current life. When you speak about a nature of Paganism, I can even agree with you to some degree, but you need to notice that paganism wasn't based on absolute spiritual equality of mankind. Therefore, initiations and esoterism were not forbidden and ridiculed, so the religion of peasant and diviner could be not exactly the same. Consumptionism is simply a outcome of mixture between reformist Marxism and liberal capitalism. But I agree with you, there must always be a factor which is binding socjety together. But nationalism simply isn't useful for this in my opinion. Nope. Nationalism isn't a modern form of tribalism. Tribes weren't egalitarian at all, they had it's social stratification. And nationalism is an idea of egalitarian (if nation is a sovereign, egalitarianism in it is desired) centralised nation-state, which is based around language (because we do not have any other factor of national allegiance apart from language and personal consciouness). This idea is dangerous for white race, who is an objective biological fact rather than a delusion of Jewish-alligned intelectuals like a nationalism. Hungarians have these strong nationalist urges, because their motherland was humiliated and deprived from the lands, which belonged to it since Middle Ages. This is laughable. Sarmatian period was a period of biggest fucking degeneracy in the whole history of Poland and I'm glad that it was ended by a partitions. It created a state based on universal suffrage of nobility, opposition against strong leadership, civic citizenship, cult of freedom, pacifism and early feminism. And it's ridiculously similar to .........(((current West))), isn't it? 1. As an every state in the world, that's why we need to create a state seeking only an interest of white race. 2. That's why we need to end nationalism, it causes only more brother wars between whites. 3. Democracy is a lie. Mob will always be dumb. German National Socialism wasn't about Aryanism. The sincere Aryanists were murdered by Hitler in 1934. And from then Hitler twisted an Aryan ideal, using it as a pawn for his own ((((nationialistic))) agenda. Hitler was a Rotschild whose job was to murder as many Aryans as possible (therefore his (((anti-slavism))) based on leftist lies from XIXth century) and help to create an Israel state. Slavs are white Indoeuropeans, akin to Germans and Balts and not noticing this fact is caused by believing in myths created by Jews to divide whites. And what do you say isn't true, Sarmatians weren't that close to Slavs (they were predominantly of R1b haplogroup) and in fact northern Norwegians (predominantly of R1a haplogroup) are closer to Slavs than Sarmatians. Slavs do have a lot of Iranian cultular influence (for exapmple the Polish word bóg meaning god comes from Iranian), but it is unclear which ancient Iranian group was a factor which brought this influence to Slavs.
Nazi Germany was a Jewish puppet state where Adolf Hitler (in fact, (((Rothschild))) ) used Prussian and German tradition as a facade in carrying out Rotschild plan of destruction of white race, created by Nathan Rotschild. Prussia was much different than it. Frederick the Great didn't care what language someone spoke, as long as said person obeyed his orders (for example, Frederick the Great was a good friend of Pole, bishop Krasicki, which would be unlikely in Hitler's case). I don't support a current state of EU. I suport the violent revolution against Brussels elite aiming to create and united, white and pagan Europe. But for this to happen, we need first an united European state, because without it the revolutionary movement will be taken over by a nationalists. The factor, which can unify society is race.

 

[Miro Chad]

TL;DR
Why is it lost?

 

[virgin4life]

Funny how the difference is lowest in Scandinavia, women there off themselves at a higher rate than other places (or men do it less often).

No surprise... Sweden is a SJW/feminist hell hole. Females there can not live the role naturally assigned to them. They have to live life like men. No surprise they are killing themselves.

Repeat once again.

Can you summarize this in 2 sentences?