Calling all members of the red front!

[hierophant]

Good night or day to you gentleman, I'm writing to you today to ask you how many of you are either socialist or left leaning individuals?

A few questions to get started:

1.When did you discover socialism/communism

2.Of which figures of this sphere do you respect or dislike?

3.What works have you read so far or are currently reading?

4.Of which stance (form of leftist thought) do you take and why?

 

[FBI]

I do not buy into either. The reason is simple: I do not believe in equality. People are not equal, never have been, and never will be. Some are stronger, some weaker. Some think quickly, others cannot. Some will work all day, others avoid work when they can. Some are fit to lead, most are not. That is simply how it is, and nothing will ever change it.

To try to make everyone equal only drags everyone down. The man who works hard must carry the one who will not. The man who builds and risks receives the same reward as the one who sits idle. That is not fair, and it does not make life better for anyone. What it does is spread misery around evenly, so that nobody can rise above.

I would be interested to hear what you think of that.

 

[Glassness]

I'm a socialist but more of a national kind

 

[Hoor Al-Ayn]

I do not buy into either. The reason is simple: I do not believe in equality. People are not equal, never have been, and never will be. Some are stronger, some weaker. Some think quickly, others cannot. Some will work all day, others avoid work when they can. Some are fit to lead, most are not. That is simply how it is, and nothing will ever change it.

To try to make everyone equal only drags everyone down. The man who works hard must carry the one who will not. The man who builds and risks receives the same reward as the one who sits idle. That is not fair, and it does not make life better for anyone. What it does is spread misery around evenly, so that nobody can rise above.

I would be interested to hear what you think of that.

I'm gonna let you argue with Stalin on this one:

The kind of socialism under which everybody would get the same pay, an equal quantity of meat and an equal quantity of bread, would wear the same clothes and receive the same goods in the same quantities—such a socialism is unknown to Marxism.

All that Marxism says is that until classes have been finally abolished and until labor has been transformed from a means of subsistence into the prime want of man, into voluntary labor for society, people will be paid for their labor according to the work performed. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work." Such is the Marxist formula of socialism, i.e., the formula of the first stage of communism, the first stage of communist society.

 

[Regenerator]

It was IRL life experiences that made me a socialist. Seeing how capitalist companies always ruined my life for profit (My former school is a perfect example) & having DEI hires in my former jobs. This plus OnlyFans, vaccine companies, Private MSM propaganda machines & capitalist businesses always promoting LGBT. Hitler & Mussolini made socialism work after all.

 

[GobidMujahid]

May Allah (SWT) grant shahid Saddam Hussein the highest peak of Jannah and forgive his sins.

 

[ardeys]

I'm a socialist but more of a national kind

 

[hierophant]

I'm a socialist but more of a national kind

How so?

 

[Moth Knight]

How so?

You know exactly what he means.

 

[FBI]

I'm gonna let you argue with Stalin on this one:

I understand the point in that Stalin quote. He is speaking of socialism as Marxists define it, what they call the first stage of communism. In that stage, people are still paid according to the work they do, while the state controls production and directs wealth. Only later, in the higher stage of communism, are classes supposed to be gone, the state no longer needed, and work done freely out of desire. That is the theory.

The trouble is that it is wishful thinking. Classes will not and cannot be gone. Put people together and some will rise over others. As for labor, it is naïve to believe men will suddenly work only for the joy of it. If many will not work when their life depends on it, they will not work when it no longer does.

What always happens instead is that a new class rises, the one that claims to speak for everyone and decides what each man "deserves." That class holds the real power, and it is no less a ruling class than the old one!

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Are you against hierarchy or just against capital being hoarded by a few elites? One is nonsense, the other can be mitigated but never truly fixed.

I suggest OP read Robert Michels and his work Iron Law of Oligarchy.