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1. Pedophilia, hebephilia, and ephebophilia are three different conditions. Of these, only pedophilia is categorized as a sexual disorder by the DSM-5, the bible of psychology. Hebephilia is an attraction towards younger adolescents, while ephebophilia is an attraction towards older adolescents. Both are normal and observed in male adults.

2. Adolescents are not children in a literal sense. The classic definition of a child is someone who either has not entered puberty or whose puberty has not caused a dramatic effect yet (this has to be mentioned because some people start puberty at the age of 9 and no one would argue that person is already an adolescent). Adolescents can impregnate, get impregnated, ejaculate, menstruate, drive, go out with their friends, travel, and hold many of the responsibilities that adults do. They are closer to being adults than children.

3. "The brain doesn't fully mature until the age of 25" is not a strong argument to oppose the age gap relationships. Even though adolescents have a lot to mature in that sense, what never gets mentioned is their peak fluid cognitive skills at that age, the most biologically based type of intelligence. They reason better and quicker than most adults because of their higher fluid IQ, which is only possible due to a brain that has not fully matured yet. It's why young people learn languages more easily. Adults have more practical knowledge and wisdom, but this should not prevent them from wanting to date adolescents; it should be used to instruct and guide them.

4. The hysteria around these relationships are heavily influenced by the advent of feminism. The early feminist movement set out to raise the age of consent laws and demonize men who dated younger women, raising the SMV of used-up and embittered hags who were very jealous of their younger counterparts attracting most of the men available. Raising the age of consent reduces men's options and increases those of women. Adolescent girls not being able to marry responsible adults means they have more time available to be corrupted by adolescent boys who certaintly don't have their best interests in mind.

5. Acknowledging that adolescent girls are more fertile is not the same as saying they should get pregnant at that age. We say that from a reproductive perspective 16-year-olds are more fertile not because they should have babies at that exact age, but because their reproductive window has more time before closing. In other words, if you get engaged with a 16-year-old girl today and have a child with her 5 years from now, she will be a perfectly healthy 21-year-old mother, whereas if you got engaged with a 27-year-old woman and had a child 5 years from now, she would be 32 already, which increases the likelihood of having an unhealthy, disordered child.

6. Most people who are in favor of age gap relationships involving adult men and adolescent girls view it as something to be done in the context of marriages and families, not casual sex. Not that sex with no strings attached is such a big deal, but almost nobody defends the idea of adults pumping and dumping young girls left and right for no reason. They should become housewives and mothers from an early age. Their youth and fertility are too precious to be wasted in the dick carousel, either of guys their age or older.

7. Everyone has a couple like this in their not so distant families and life did just fine for the most part. A lot of your ancestors married this way. Life did just fine for the most part. Adolescent girls married their adult husbands, moved to a nice home, had some kids, and matured together with mutual respect.

8. If adolescent girls are going to have sex no matter what, it's better if they do it with responsible men who can take care of them. When they have sex with adolescent boys, it's pretty common for them to have their nudity exposed, get pregnant, be abandoned, and have awful experiences in general. An older guy can handle sex better and could provide her with enough resources to sustain a child if an accident happened.

9. There is not much of a biological basis to justify the amount of hysteria that exists around this topic. It's mostly cultural and thus can be changed within a few generations. Less than a century ago, no one was "cancelled" or persecuted for having such a relationship, and now it's apparently the worst thing you can do, a huge sin. It goes to show that it's not really in our nature to be this way. The "Catch a Predator" types are just a product of their time. They wouldn't have acted like this in a more sane period.

10. The power imbalance is real but not inherently bad. Women go for men that are taller, physically stronger, wealthier, and have more power, influence and status. Isn't this also a power imbalance? Of course, but women like it because they tend to date up (hypergamy). So is the case of an age gap. How many girls do you know wanted to or actually dated guys older simply because in their eyes these guys were more attractive? I thought feminism was all about liberating women's sexuality, so why can't these girls date the guys they're interested in? Ironic.
 
I agree with this, alot of the problematic age gap discourse is just older women getting jealous.
 
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I agree, teens have sex anyway and no two people will have the same "power" and be exactly the same even if they're the same age.
 
when they talk about the brain isnt mature blah blah you could be old and be retarded
 
A relationship between a 16 and 26 year old is legal in most of Europe, as long as the older person is not in a position of power.

I'm in my late 20s and prefer a gf who's 18+ though but would take a 17 year old if she looks mature enough. Again, that would be legal.

Also, in Germany, you can buy beer and wine in the supermarket at 16. I think that's perfectly reasonable.

You have a mature perspective about this, and I concur that such relationships are perfectly reasonable.

I agree, teens have sex anyway and no two people will have the same "power" and be exactly the same even if they're the same age.
The very sexual dynamics between a man and a woman of any age prevents this power imbalance from ever ceasing to exist.

Men are superior to women both in mind and body. Women submit to men in bed, they literally open themselves to be dominated. Most men are taller and have higher levels of testosterone than most women. Women go for men who are above them (hypergamy). So it's only natural that they would go for older guys as well. This hysteria has to stop.

when they talk about the brain isnt mature blah blah you could be old and be retarded
Agecuck feminists are usually both old and retarded, so yes.
 
Bumping this.

We need to raise awareness for this topic and start a new age of martyrs willing to die for their beliefs. You don't really choose who you end up catching the strongest feelings for, love doesn't care about social norms.
 
Something I have noticed is that no-one ever elaborates on why age-gap relationships are morally wrong. If an older man genuinely loves his partner and treats her well, where exactly is the abuse? Even if there is a "power imbalance" you never see that much vitriol against rich men dating poor women or any other example.

While aging does exist,  age does not. Whether someone is 16 or 27 years old depends solely on the ammount of times planet Earth revolved around the sun. This system of measuring the passage of time is a man-made construct.
 
I agree, teens have sex anyway and no two people will have the same "power" and be exactly the same even if they're the same age.
Exactly. How is sex with a someone your own age "healthy experimentation" while sex with someone older "harmful?" In the end, they are the same.

Either teenagers should be arrested for fornicating with each-other or they should be fair game for all ages. Double standards have no place in an ideal society.
 
AOC is my country is 15
 
Exactly. How is sex with a someone your own age "healthy experimentation" while sex with someone older "harmful?" In the end, they are the same.

Either teenagers should be arrested for fornicating with each-other or they should be fair game for all ages. Double standards have no place in an ideal society.
Couldn't agree more. If they are too young to have sex, they shouldn't be having sex period.
 
All fine and dandy but it's not like I will get with a teen foid any time soon, or ever.
 
None of this matters

Chad or Shlomo Shekelberg or any female that's not repulsively ugly fucks 12 year olds and nobody bats an eye
 
I'm a 41 year old creep and it's over for me.
 
Agree with most of this post.

1. Pedophilia, hebephilia, and ephebophilia are three different conditions. Of these, only pedophilia is categorized as a sexual disorder by the DSM-5, the bible of psychology. Hebephilia is an attraction towards younger adolescents, while ephebophilia is an attraction towards older adolescents. Both are normal and observed in male adults.
Agree with most of this post.

The labels "hebephilia" and "ephebeophilia" need to be thrown in the thrash where they belong, it's not a real ththing. They aren't diagnosed because they aren't real. It was only one researcher who came up with those terms, and even he said that they didn't research them that much. He just came up with greek words, that sound professional and people believe him. The word "ephebo" means "a young male" in greek, if we took the term at face value it would only apply to homophiles. If uou use these terms, you're making it seem as if attraction to young women is abnormal which it is not. It is fundamentally agecucked to say these things, because those categories are based on a number not puberty.
I have explained it before.
2. Adolescents are not children in a literal sense. The classic definition of a child is someone who either has not entered puberty or whose puberty has not caused a dramatic effect yet (this has to be mentioned because some people start puberty at the age of 9 and no one would argue that person is already an adolescent). Adolescents can impregnate, get impregnated, ejaculate, menstruate, drive, go out with their friends, travel, and hold many of the responsibilities that adults do. They are closer to being adults than children.
They are adults and were considered as such for most of history.
3. "The brain doesn't fully mature until the age of 25" is not a strong argument to oppose the age gap relationships. Even though adolescents have a lot to mature in that sense, what never gets mentioned is their peak fluid cognitive skills at that age, the most biologically based type of intelligence. They reason better and quicker than most adults because of their higher fluid IQ, which is only possible due to a brain that has not fully matured yet. It's why young people learn languages more easily. Adults have more practical knowledge and wisdom, but this should not prevent them from wanting to date adolescents; it should be used to instruct and guide them.
Yes, It's a completely braindead argument. Many 15 year old males are probably smarter than many 25 year olds. Intelligence isn't required for intercourse wither way. Most sexhavers are low iq clowns.
4. The hysteria around these relationships are heavily influenced by the advent of feminism. The early feminist movement set out to raise the age of consent laws and demonize men who dated younger women, raising the SMV of used-up and embittered hags who were very jealous of their younger counterparts attracting most of the men available. Raising the age of consent reduces men's options and increases those of women. Adolescent girls not being able to marry responsible adults means they have more time available to be corrupted by adolescent boys who certaintly don't have their best interests in mind.
Correct
5. Acknowledging that adolescent girls are more fertile is not the same as saying they should get pregnant at that age. We say that from a reproductive perspective 16-year-olds are more fertile not because they should have babies at that exact age, but because their reproductive window has more time before closing. In other words, if you get engaged with a 16-year-old girl today and have a child with her 5 years from now, she will be a perfectly healthy 21-year-old mother, whereas if you got engaged with a 27-year-old woman and had a child 5 years from now, she would be 32 already, which increases the likelihood of having an unhealthy, disordered child.
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Foids should get pregnant the same day, they get their first period. 16 is a bit too late. It's good to get pregnant before their pelvic bone ossifies, that way their future pregnancies are also opimal. They will have a void in theor psyche if they don't get pregnant at the right time. Contraception doesn't exist in nature so the time she has sex will be when she is ready for breeding.
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Rest is correct and i approve.
 
This is an important point, that some low-iq niggers don't understand.
6. Most people who are in favor of age gap relationships involving adult men and adolescent girls view it as something to be done in the context of marriages and families, not casual sex. Not that sex with no strings attached is such a big deal, but almost nobody defends the idea of adults pumping and dumping young girls left and right for no reason. They should become housewives and mothers from an early age. Their youth and fertility are too precious to be wasted in the dick carousel, either of guys their age or older.
 
also mostly everyone thinks that pedophilia is purely something men engage in but there are a lot more female pedos than male ones or at least as much of them.
 
That subject is so taboo nowadays that even people who agree with all or most of those points will often LARP as feminist cucks just to avoid ostracism, scrutiny, canceling and legal problems. So it's very frustrating to engage in debates about it.
 
Agree with most of this post.


Agree with most of this post.

The labels "hebephilia" and "ephebeophilia" need to be thrown in the thrash where they belong, it's not a real ththing. They aren't diagnosed because they aren't real. It was only one researcher who came up with those terms, and even he said that they didn't research them that much. He just came up with greek words, that sound professional and people believe him. The word "ephebo" means "a young male" in greek, if we took the term at face value it would only apply to homophiles. If uou use these terms, you're making it seem as if attraction to young women is abnormal which it is not. It is fundamentally agecucked to say these things, because those categories are based on a number not puberty.
I have explained it before.

They are adults and were considered as such for most of history.

Yes, It's a completely braindead argument. Many 15 year old males are probably smarter than many 25 year olds. Intelligence isn't required for intercourse wither way. Most sexhavers are low iq clowns.

Correct

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Foids should get pregnant the same day, they get their first period. 16 is a bit too late. It's good to get pregnant before their pelvic bone ossifies, that way their future pregnancies are also opimal. They will have a void in theor psyche if they don't get pregnant at the right time. Contraception doesn't exist in nature so the time she has sex will be when she is ready for breeding.View attachment 1675507

Rest is correct and i approve.
Valuable information. Thanks for sharing.
 
Thank you for your high IQ truth nuke! I enjoyed it! :D
I eat delicious truthnukes for breakfast!
 
That subject is so taboo nowadays that even people who agree with all or most of those points will often LARP as feminist cucks just to avoid ostracism, scrutiny, canceling and legal problems. So it's very frustrating to engage in debates about it.
 
Couldn't agree more. If they are too young to have sex, they shouldn't be having sex period.
Lot of criminal sex havers who had sex at prom etc. Yet they don't think they're criminal horrible people, fucking hypocrites. Every sex haver under 18 deserves death
 
Lot of criminal sex havers who had sex at prom etc. Yet they don't think they're criminal horrible people, fucking hypocrites. Every sex haver under 18 deserves death
I agree, and those same people tell us we should be fine never having sex our whole lives because "it'll happen when it's meant to be"
 
I agree, and those same people tell us we should be fine never having sex our whole lives because "it'll happen when it's meant to be"
I hate Normie sex havers. Teenlove pill is most brutal
 
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Same, they think they're better than us and mock us for being virgins
I'm fakecel I lost mine to a bipolar suicidal chick who tried to murder me but f it, still fucked. No mentally sane foid would fuck me
 
4. The hysteria around these relationships are heavily influenced by the advent of feminism.
I don't see how this is an argument since feminism isn't bad. Alice Paul and Susan B Anthony seem to have opposed abortion.
5. Acknowledging that adolescent girls are more fertile is not the same as saying they should get pregnant at that age.
What's the point of marriage if you aren't going to reproduce? And why is teen pregnancy so harmful?
An older guy can handle sex better and could provide her with enough resources to sustain a child if an accident happened.
What about poor adult men? Why are you excluding them from love? And is "accident" an appropriate term for a preborn child? Accident seems to have a negative connotation.
 
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I'm fakecel I lost mine to a bipolar suicidal chick who tried to murder me but f it, still fucked. No mentally sane foid would fuck me
Oh shit that's scary, did you get hurt?
 
I'm fakecel I lost mine to a bipolar suicidal chick who tried to murder me but f it, still fucked. No mentally sane foid would fuck me
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A relationship between a 16 and 26 year old is legal in most of Europe, as long as the older person is not in a position of power.
I'm confused by all the normies and society acting like the minimum age is 18, when in the vast majority of places the minimum age of consent is 16. Even in America, the average age is 16. Same for Australia.

Everyone's view is so sexualised now as well. They act like every relationship is sexual, and would go ballistic if an 18 year old was in a non sexual relationship with a 15 year old.
 
I'm confused by all the normies and society acting like the minimum age is 18, when in the vast majority of places the minimum age of consent is 16. Even in America, the average age is 16. Same for Australia.

Everyone's view is so sexualised now as well. They act like every relationship is sexual, and would go ballistic if an 18 year old was in a non sexual relationship with a 15 year old.
:yes: Very well said!
 
:yes: Very well said!
Thank you :feelsYall:

I also made a post on a similar topic a while back:
But I might make one tomorrow about relationships in regards to age gaps. Should be good!
 
I'm fakecel I lost mine to a bipolar suicidal chick who tried to murder me but f it, still fucked. No mentally sane foid would fuck me
Fucking larper bitch infiltrator.
 
I'm fakecel I lost mine to a bipolar suicidal chick who tried to murder me but f it, still fucked. No mentally sane foid would fuck me
Interesting last post. I know a couple of low-tier normie guys whose only successes ever were with mentally ill bipolar/borderline foids as well.

I've heard that there are men who go out of their ways to pursue mentally ill foids with conditions like that and I suspect a good deal of women in porn and prostitution have them as well.
 
Amazing post Nirvana.
If you didn't believe before that the United States was evil for your life, remember what their stupid tv culture did to the world, making them believe that a Age of Consent should be 18 in Europe just because 10 or 15 states in America say soo
 
Biggest issue for me is really the difference in maturity. I don't want to feel like a father or an uncle guiding someone younger than me that still has to learn. I'd rather have someone more equal to me.
 
Biggest issue for me is really the difference in maturity. I don't want to feel like a father or an uncle guiding someone younger than me that still has to learn. I'd rather have someone more equal to me.
Men are supposed to stronger and more dominant. Men and foids will never be equal. Going for younger foids boosts this power imbalance, which is a good thing.
 
Amazing post Nirvana.
If you didn't believe before that the United States was evil for your life, remember what their stupid tv culture did to the world, making them believe that a Age of Consent should be 18 in Europe just because 10 or 15 states in America say soo
Yes, United States is evil and contrary to popular belief, it doesn't respect freedom. The United Nations also helped spread this delusion of "everyone under 18 is a child", that's why it's 18 to be considered adult almost everywhere across the clownworld.
 
True, and she should be submissive etc., but I'd still rather be with another adult.
No difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old. Just man-made legal constructs, biologically they are both adults. I understand that breaking laws isn't worth it, though.
 
True, and she should be submissive etc., but I'd still rather be with another adult.
Sure, man. Nobody here is saying every male adult should be engaged to an adolescent girl. If you genuinely prefer older women, that's on you. But we are saying this kind of relationship is not bad, is not anti-natural, and should be legal if both parts consent to it. Simple as that.
 
No difference between a 15 year old and an 18 year old. Just man-made legal constructs, biologically they are both adults. I understand that breaking laws isn't worth it, though.
An 18 year old behaves differently from a 15 year old. The difference isn't as big as 14 and 16 though I'd say. The issue here isn't a moral one. I'm not morally against dating someone younger and less mature than you.
Sure, man. Nobody here is saying every male adult should be engaged to an adolescent girl. If you genuinely prefer older women, that's on you. But we are saying this kind of relationship is not bad, is not anti-natural, and should be legal if both parts consent to it. Simple as that.
I agree.
 
It's good to get pregnant before their pelvic bone ossifies, that way their future pregnancies are also opimal.
Can you explain this? Do you have a link that explains this?
 
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There’s no point to debate with foids and foid-brained retards.

Women should shut the fuck up.
 

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