Beeing against surgery is beeing stupid

[Failed Pullout]

Yeah obviously but smv will barely change cause with double jaw surgery they go from sub3 to mtn, it's only if u have sleep apnea as well so if u have small mandible it's over they won't perform on you

Sub 3 to mtn is a completely different life jfl and lets say they were 5'5 before and they get to 5'9 after LL this is life changing.

 

[fokusin]

Sub 3 to mtn is a completely different life jfl and lets say they were 5'5 before and they get to 5'9 after LL this is life changing.

MTN is barely enough for eye contact, smv will still barely change

 

[Failed Pullout]

MTN is barely enough for eye contact, smv will still barely change

Not really MTN+White is enough for ethnic foids which there are an abundance of in burgerland.

 

[ihatelife2]

Pain is real

 

[Karlicel]

You guys cope there are people that ascended to chadlite or higher

 

[Halloween]

Surgery is cope

Yes but the best cope.

 

[Halloween]

Pain is real

Inceldom is realer

 

[davpsl]

If you say muuh LL will cripple you.
Muh face surgery will leave me uncanny
muuh pain.

Reality is. Beeing an Incel and a short and or ugly one at that is 10 times more leathal, painful and tiresome than any surgery can be.
Money is the only legit argument but then again if you live minimalistic for 1-2 years in a car and work enough hours you can save for all of the surgerys.

Time is the only legit argument against surgerys. If you are a 30 year old oldcel, doing surgerys is not your best bet as its already close to over.
At 35 its roping time at best.

But if you are 18-21 years old you should persue every surgery you can get.
Even if you are an incel after surgerys, your live will improve 10 times.
Better job prospects, more respect, better social interactions.
You could also have sex with a roastie but i would advie against it.

based

 

[parbate2025]

mtn????

the average guy does not look like that my friend.
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Front is not as good as side but both are above htn.

Average school class
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these 2 legit mog every guy on their.

Is that genioplasty or bimax?
Left one looks like me lol
Ltn to straight HTN heaven

 

[NIGGA BANBAN]

Surgery is a life saver. I would've taken it in a heartbeat had an opportunity came.

I just think it's funny telling guys it's cope just to fuck with them.

 

[Karlicel]

Is that genioplasty or bimax?
Left one looks like me lol
Ltn to straight HTN heaven

yes

 

[parbate2025]

yes

How much does it cost in US!?

 

[Karlicel]

How much does it cost in US!?

what surgery?

 

[Glutony]

100% The thing is I would probably need multiple and there's still a 1-5% chance your life is completely ruined if the surgery goes wrong atleast with Bimax and LL. When i have enough money I will get a hair transplant and consider Rhino, Otho and Bimax though. I'm way to scared (and broke) to ever do LL though.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

Obviously. Surgeries can ascend almost anyone here. Too bad the iqlets on this forum are sperging out in the thread.

 

[Neurotic]

You already need a decent base to get surgery in the first place. I’m not against it at all but I see why some users may say it’s cope

 

[Karlicel]

100% The thing is I would probably need multiple and there's still a 1-5% chance your life is completely ruined if the surgery goes wrong atleast with Bimax and LL. When i have enough money I will get a hair transplant and consider Rhino, Otho and Bimax though. I'm way to scared (and broke) to ever do LL though.

LL is mostly fixable. Even if you have problems. You can do corrective surgerys.

 

[Glutony]

LL is mostly fixable. Even if you have problems. You can do corrective surgerys.

Will the mobility be the same after the surgery? Even if it's so incredibly expensive that by the time I can afford it I will be way to old.

 

[Karlicel]

Will the mobility be the same after the surgery? Even if it's so incredibly expensive that by the time I can afford it I will be way to old.

yes

 

[parbate2025]

what surgery?

Bimax and genio

 

[Karlicel]

Bimax and genio

in europe 10-30k