Experiment As an Incel, do you support free market capitalism or genuine socialism?
capitalists will put me into wageslavery
communists will put me in a gulag
I want to believe AI + UBI will solve all our problems, so I guess I'm more left-leaning (economically speaking)
I used to be both full-on commie and full-on anarchocapitalist, but frankly I don't see a solution nowadays
communists will put me in a gulag
I want to believe AI + UBI will solve all our problems, so I guess I'm more left-leaning (economically speaking)
I used to be both full-on commie and full-on anarchocapitalist, but frankly I don't see a solution nowadays
nope, the first country who put UBI, well have dog shit fertility and be invaded by immigrants
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A combination of two. A true capital- socialism that cares about men as much as women. Otherwise it's pseudosocialism funded by the actual economic intererests.( coorporativism)
"In the middle" is what we have, so you are happy with the actual situation I guess.
Welfare/high taxes/gender quotas/single motherhood/feeding/education of chad children, will never exist in a true free market capitalism, some incels want this welfare and defend socialism because that but it's delusion thinking you are going to get more welfare than foids and their children.
In free states you earn what you work for and no body is redistributing your efforts to people who work less and obviously is easier to invest and create jobs without being selected in to the heavy tax sector because your heavy investment.
If corps pay very low to their workers then their own costumers (workers of other companies) will also pay very low for the products, prices will drop, it auto-regulates without having the human hand in between which is always harmful.
State should be a security force and nothing much else more.
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With no government to help most women would need a husband to pay the bills because they are lazy or low iq to get productive jobs. What you are suggesting is a welfare state where foids fuck thugs and chads without consequences and the government bails them with our own money.
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free market capitalism with necessary govt checks
In a free market economy there would be competition between companies for productive workers so you could have a good salary, or you could start a business and pay low to no taxes. Now regarding to the betabuxx I fully agree with you and that's why i consider MGTOW interesting. I don't wanna waste a penny with any woman, not through marriage and not through taxes.
Both are shit and have problems, however socialism is at least conceptually less shit.
I'm a strasserist tbh.
I'm a strasserist tbh.
Reality is that free market offers nothing for neetcels/lowIQcels/LDARcels but for the rest it offers a lot.
Is always the inverse as there is no govern printing money to pay their expenses and devaluing your money and savings, making you very hard to save and move up in the social class by opening your own business with these savings. As well as there is no taxes for investment or business, your earn depends on your skills.
Kings taxed their kingdom they aren't a good example of free market capitalism.
I already have to deal with this, what I do is dump these corporations and look for better ones, they may scam you the first time but never more and a business without stable customers can't never thrive and will fall, the same market will dump harmful corporations.
The same with the previous point, I already have to deal with this and I have to probe the market or buy information in the actual system of government.
really nigga
You really think you have an option to support other system but you don't have it, everything that is not free market will eventually die slowly and painfully, it's no joke the situation we are in, not supporting free market is actually supporting living in misery for all your life as simple as governments gets their money based on social manipulation and not their actual efficiency and results.
This is what I personally think.
The origin of evilness is poverty or better said the lack of fulfilment of your necessities.
Socialism.
Why would you think incels or men would get any of the benefits of socialism or government welfare?
All of it is going to women just like it does now.
Socialism (or more government) = more money for women and zero for men
At least with capitalism, women get nothing from the gov.
They'll do dodgy shit regardless, they'll just lobby the government or donate to politicians to skirt the legality part.
Or they'll just outsource manufacturing to China where there are no human rights and dodgy shit is a way of life there.
I'd rather the dodgy shit be kept in the same country and that China money stay in the USA (I'm assuming you're american).
I'm a free market capitalist, but not a globalist.
If wages drop down people will start to buy and consume less and so prices will drop, supply and demand law. The problem with these countries is that they don't produce enough (quantity or quality) and have to import a lot of things they need, this applies to whatever type of government.
It's been know the FDA is corrupt and gets bribed a lot. Having third parties randomly test products would be more reliable than depending on the government to do it. Other countries don't have an FDA and have
better food safety standards than the US.
If they do that then the rich people won't have any workers because no one would live near them.
Public schools are brainwashing facilities that make kids dumber, plus incels get severely bullied there. Government should have nothing to do with schooling, or provide cheap online basic education at the most.
That's what's happening now.
I think the government is responsible for these bad situations you speak of because corporations have ties, contracts, lobby the government to give them this god like power to pull this stuff.
The ones arguing for free market capitalism are claiming without their ill gained government power, the corporations won't be able to do these things.
Example: education prices got jacked up because governments offered student loans which quickly inflated prices of a degree
Plus without all the restrictions people can just grow fruits and vegetables wherever they want. Food and water literally comes from the ground.
I don't know any free market where that happens. You can get a few of your buddies and build a house if you wanted in a free market.
All I got from public schools was aggravating my autism and bullying. I got most my education reading things online, watching videos and writing comments, not from public school teachers. They never taught me how to read or do math, I had to learn those things on my own as well.
The alternative is to remove the bad cops and the bad laws.
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China is the number one surveillanced country in the world, everyone has to protect their social scores or they can't get jobs. The chinese also don't seem to be doing that bad, they are one of the most powerful countries in the world and they have longer life expectancy than americans. I don't know about india, but I think Dubai and Emirates are better examples of free markets.
I would suspect their laws and culture probably have more to do with it being a shithole.
There are too many sjw cucks from india for it to be libertarian. They even have female and male separated train carts. If it was libertarian their traditions wouldn't still be old school.
Fascism, both pure socialist Marxism and capitalism are Jew run institutions that disregard the nation state and are immensely corrupt
We shouldn't make these kind of decisions through an ideological mindset, we should use a purely scientific, empiric and as close to objectively true as possible, putting the nation's well being and sovereignty as prime directive.
Or just go full ancap BOI:
Or just go full ancap BOI:
We shouldn't make these kind of decisions through an ideological mindset, we should use a purely scientific, empiric and as close to objectively true as possible, putting the nation's well being and sovereignty as prime directive.
Or just go full ancap BOI:
AnCap is a meme. It will never work, life would be hell on earth.
Some massive corporation would just be the de-facto centralized authority
too low iq to answer
Sjw's need to be able to censor people and impose their will on them, which goes against libertarianism and freedom of speech and the non-aggression principle.
What is this with true libertarianism has never been tried? Night-watchman state was a common concept in the 19th century and either uncontested or the hegemon.
Communism was never implemented in the first place. That is correct on paper (besides in ad-hoc communism (anarchism, which worked really well internally, but got crushed by outside forces). Whatever those systems with a communist government in ideology were, they never had time to freely develop. Sure they are more ineffective, when put against an already much stronger grown worldwise system made to exploit people what leads to more surplus value and work extracted for the military. In the end you prolly have to beat them with their own weapons. I see China as the logical continuation of stalinist under siege "communism".
Environmental factors are a thing.
The libertarian argument that the governemnt has to much power, what makes them vulnerable for the lobbying makes no sense, especially if the laws to protect people from corporate despotism are made by this very government in the first place. A more or less total abolition would simply lead to the companies imposing their will directly without even the need to lobby anything.
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I don't think you understand how economy works, they have low wages because their country is a shithole not backwards.
See the bigger picture, these countries need to buy $ with their money to buy most of what they need in their country and because they don't export shit to recover their money in the international market their money worth shit.
Again they can't buy noting in their country with their money because nothing is produced there and thus they need to buy $ to buy in the international market and thus overtime they devalue even more their money till they fix their inside production.
At this point their money is basically the $ and because they export nothing to the international market they get pay nearly nothing, extreme low wage. This problem is actually alleviated by the free market as it increases the production and is worsened by any form of taxation on the business.
The wage simple don't get up because there is no demand for workers, free market can be a very extensive topic but is resumed in letting the law of supply and demand work free and thus everyone will receive what they deserve.
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USSR was good tho.
People make the mistake by comparing it to the West but that's just not fair. The history of Russia is much different. It's much better to compare it to the Russian empire and Russia today both of which are dysfunctional compared to the powerhouse of the USSR
First of all India is not a free market and yet in your theory of the evil rich these rich people still managed to hold all the moneys, so this is not an exclusive problem of free market (if it really is). Rich people don't hold the money without any purpose (they are saving for an investment usually) and even if they did by doing it they would make less money available in the market and the prices would drop.
My example was an exaggeration to make it more clear, to make it black or white but IRL everything is grayscale, the less a country produces and the more it imports the less that country is worth simple as that, this fact affects rich and poor.
free market baby
As technology advances that can bypass censoring and new uncucked private companies pop up, the sjw's will demand that the government steps in and censors them or shuts them down.
Sjw's aren't happy with being the popular opinion, they want to be the only opinion because they know their ideology doesn't make sense and can't hold up to scrutiny. They even try to shut little incel forums down with only a few thousand members.
They will get ridiculed and made fun of relentlessly like flat earthers once people see them for what they really are like we have.
Free market is everything where there is not a heavy government, India is not one of these places they actually have a big government.
All my examples are city-state level, never a big country that's for sure because to hold a big country you need a big government. Certainly big governments have better fighting capabilities because they basically are big thugs who steal everyone money through printing and devaluation of money or another same sort of trickery like bank loans.
Which is why that was a joke, the use of "BOI" and gameplay of a broken city simulator indicate that.
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anarcho transhumanist mutalist based minarchist governments tbh
High IQ
Socialism
because I hope for a basic income
because I hope for a basic income
I love the Nordic model which I enjoy as I write this post. I've been getting hundreds of euros a month for doing literally nothing. This has been going on for years.
#NordicModelCope
#NordicModelCope
Both create incels. Why would I want more of us to roam the earth. One gives foids rights the others gives chad more advantage. I
I support the world burning.
On ideological level I support liberal national socialism (personal freedom, balance between modern and traditional, and socialist economy for own people). In practice - everything fails and sucks
Traditionalism is the only thing that can make one hole stick with one man. The economic system is largely irrelevant imo. Capitalism creates more wealth but the freedom breeds open degeneracy. I think you need a balance between the 2 with traditionalist indigenous men in charge.
I support every dumb answer for the social problem. Because I want to see the collapse.
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