If not, give me one rational argument on why antinatalism is wrong.
Far too fatalistic.
yes, humanity must ceast to exist
It's also just civilizational suicide.
Provide a rational argument defending it. You can extrapolate the antinatalist position to justify baby murder like the left is doing now.
The blackpill itself is fatalism
In practice I am an anti natalist.
In theory I am a pro natalist.
In theory I am a pro natalist.
Most people are bad that's why I support antinatalism.
Life is full of suffering.
Life is full of suffering.
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There are many people with mental retarded, far more than I had imagined
Most people that have children are retarded and stupid, while the intelligent people are purposely losing out on having the ability to reproduce. I saw someone else say on the forum that there should be a license and a competency requirement for reproducing, and I agree. Immigrants and third-worlders are mostly reproducing, instead of smart, intelligent white men.
@grokcel, wtf is antinatalism
Antinatalism is retarded cope. Always some autistic redditor with zero self-awareness claiming that life is suffering blah blah and that's why he wants everyone to kill themselves, but what's stopping you from only killing yourself? Pretty much it's a wannabe peaceful version of going ER.
Life isn't suffering, most people don't suffer. Only people who have been starved think that. You wouldn't be an antinatalist if you weren't depressed, it's you simply trying to enforce your temporary misery onto others. Every redditor would drop this bullshit immediately if he got access to prime pussy. People aren't antinatalist on principle.
People may call this bluepilled, but they're missing the picture. I'm simply saying that antinatalism is a cope and people only believe in it to not confront reality.
Life isn't suffering, most people don't suffer. Only people who have been starved think that. You wouldn't be an antinatalist if you weren't depressed, it's you simply trying to enforce your temporary misery onto others. Every redditor would drop this bullshit immediately if he got access to prime pussy. People aren't antinatalist on principle.
People may call this bluepilled, but they're missing the picture. I'm simply saying that antinatalism is a cope and people only believe in it to not confront reality.
I want 100 kids
It's slave morality, they think everyones life is shit because THEIRS is
Exactly
Antinatalism is very similar to the morons who claim that "women are not into men". Zero self-awareness.
Selectively. I think reproduction is inherently selfish but excusable if you have good genes (incl. IQ and racial phenotype, not just attractiveness) and the capability to provide a comfortable, loving environment for your kid.
I think it’s completely asinine that you need a license for a fucking car or self-defense item cause “it can take life,” yet we don’t also mandate a license for the act of giving life
I think it’s completely asinine that you need a license for a fucking car or self-defense item cause “it can take life,” yet we don’t also mandate a license for the act of giving life
Post-industruial revolution the reproductive framework changed inverse like this, mainly because of the welfare state
Of course not, I don't want to see my race die out and our countries be overtaken by Islam.
It's practically retarded and logically indefensible so I have no reason to espouse it. And even more crucially, it's anti-life. The most fundamental impulse of life itself is the drive for reproduction, to spread its seed, to continue its lineage. That is what this world is about, that is what the will to power means. All the pursuit of status, wealth etc is downstream of this drive. To forsake this drive is to live in denial because it is essentially inescapable. Insofar you desire things, you are acting in accordance with this drive. Even in your desire for the cessation of all human life, you are acting on this drive. It's metaphysically omnipresent and denying it only leads to cognitive dissonance.
It also doesn't help that the bulk of the antinatalist movement is composed of emo soyfags and autistic foids.
It also doesn't help that the bulk of the antinatalist movement is composed of emo soyfags and autistic foids.
Yes, having Children is entirely selfish
My personal argument for anti natalism is mainly for the fact that even if we all woke up as perfect genetic specimen, people would've still found a way to separate each other into a lower and higher castle so they can continue on tormenting those they deem "lesser".
Never seen a chad anti-natalist. Probably because all retarded anti-natalists are coping subhumans to begin with and don't even have the option to reproduce. Also "muhh sufferrringggg I don't want them to sufferrrr 
" if these people thought life was 24/7 suffering they would rope which just proves that they think life is worth living.
" if these people thought life was 24/7 suffering they would rope which just proves that they think life is worth living.
ExaclyNever seen a chad anti-natalist. Probably because all retarded anti-natalists are coping subhumans to begin with and don't even have the option to reproduce. Also "muhh sufferrringggg I don't want them to sufferrrr
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Disagree. Someone can philosophically conclude that life isn't worth living because they are exposed to far more suffering than anything positive, yet can also struggle to kill themselves because aversion to death is deeply ingrained in everyone's instincts. Them not killing themselves doesn't really disprove anything.Also "muhh sufferrringggg I don't want them to sufferrrr
Not an argument for why it's wrong. All evidence points to the world being 100% fatalistic.
All of humanity will cease to exist one day. If whites stopped existing tomorrow, all complex systems that allow society to function would also cease. These savages would be forced back into the Stone Age.
This is literally just cope. What complex systems would cease to exist? I’m pretty sure east Asia would be fine without u cumskins
The reason there are no "Chad" anti-natalists is because of the halo effect. If you were a Chad, you're far more likely to believe in the "Just World Fallacy." The reason is that you've had such a good life because of your genetics that you fail to realize the level of suffering that truly exists.Never seen a chad anti-natalist. Probably because all retarded anti-natalists are coping subhumans to begin with and don't even have the option to reproduce. Also "muhh sufferrringggg I don't want them to sufferrrr
"What complex systems would cease"? Why should I list all of them for someone who lacks the imagination to even conjure up a single example? No one is talking about East Asians. We're talking about shitskins.
Antinatalism doesn't inherently mean the individual believes that their life isn't worth living. It's the belief that creating new life has the potential for far more harm than good and that it's essentially meaningless.
Go ahead nigger
I think the primary reason people do it is so they can vicariously live through them, so they don't have to come to grips with their own aging. It's having a proximity to youth basically.
How does Antinatalism lead to "slave morality"? The vast majority of people in society support natalism. Therefore, being an antinatalist is deviant. Nietzsche would've had sympathy for Antinatalism. He would've said something along the lines of "The purpose of my philosophy is for you to overcome yourself and society, to become the Ubermensch, to be truly free from constraint in your condition." Having children is entirely counterintuitive to personal growth and freedom. Nietzsche promoted a hyper-individualist philosophy. The nuclear family instates the framework in which "Slave Morality" thrives. It enslaves a man to a life of servitude in providing and provisioning. It forces a man into the proximity of the weak, forcing him to have compassion for weakness. Men go soft when they have families; they give up striving, they give up autonomy, and they give up principles for it. They become shells of their former selves.
So why should anyone except subhumans cope with antinatalism?
Life is anti-life. The idea that one forsakes life is foolish to me, when it was the universe that did it first. I'm destined to age and die due to no fault of my own and cease to exist. I don't think it's moral to bring someone into such a futile, meaningless existence. You're also supposing that I'm anti-life in relation to my life. I am not. Antinatalism is just against the creation of new life, not forsaking one's own.
Because it's philosophically rigorous and correct, I can't see how Antinatalism is a "cope" whatsoever. It's the denial of an entire function of life on philosophical grounds based on moral concerns.
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Addressing all the right-wingers who care about the white race and so on. Who does more good? An Antinatalist who hates niggers with a passion and actively wants to slaughter them. Or a man who's tied down by a family, who only has two kids and a bitch roastie wife, and isn't willing to fight in the race war. The idea that having kids is the best or even an effective method for combating white genocide is ridiculous to me.
Because breeding a girl is hot as fuck
How is it "correct" literally every creature on this earth reproduces. You are coping your balls because you think you have a choice not to reproduce.
Would you think life is suffering if you were a chad?
There's no way you have a Schophenhaurer pfp and are against Antinatalism.
Appeal to nature is a logical fallacy and not a valid argument.
No
I think it's good to have kids but I never could myself
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