As the title says. Let's settle this once and for all.
If yes, explain why. And if no, also explain why.
If yes, explain why. And if no, also explain why.
Probably not but I will never forgive them for taking my foreskin.
How is this even a question?
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If you mean the liberals than no, they are not responsible for Inceldom itself but they certainly push the agenda and make Inceldom even more insufferable than it has to be.
I'm just interested in knowing what other incels think about this. From your response, I'm assuming you think they are. Right?
no because jews used schemes to help them not be incels, but now those schemes no longer work as well cuz other soy jews fucked em over.
If anything Gobbels is responsible for inceldom, because it was thru Nazi propaganda that the idea of a Chad became specifically eugenic. It was thru Gobbels that it became clear that Aryan whites are simply, unconscionably the master race, and that no SJW propaganda can ever effectively bury Nazi propaganda.
If anything Gobbels is responsible for inceldom, because it was thru Nazi propaganda that the idea of a Chad became specifically eugenic. It was thru Gobbels that it became clear that Aryan whites are simply, unconscionably the master race, and that no SJW propaganda can ever effectively bury Nazi propaganda.
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It's time for your daily reminder that the Jews are responsible for the subversion of the west.
It's time for your daily reminder that the Jews are at the forefront of the feminist movement.
It's time for your daily reminder that the Jews are responsible for the widespread rollout of Jewpills to subhuman males.
It's time for your daily reminder that the Jews are at the forefront of the feminist movement.
It's time for your daily reminder that the Jews are responsible for the widespread rollout of Jewpills to subhuman males.
Yes, I believe there are some Jews at the highest level of power that are orchestrating actions that have contributed to the rise in inceldom. No, I wouldn't say "The Jews are responsible for inceldom."
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I am not saying they are. In fact, I don't think they're the reason behind it. I just wanted to know why lots of incels think that the Jews are responsible for inceldom, or at least exacerbate it by pushing their "Jewish agendas".
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Yes
can you elaborate more on that?
Partly. If you are a truecel, the only thing responsible for your inceldom is subhuman genetics.
That guy is just anti-jew to retard levels, as he makes lists ever few months of all the kikes on this forum like he's making a hitist or something.
Go fuck yourself. Being anti-kike is just common sense.
I agree with that, but when can one blame the Jews for the rise in inceldom? (if that's possible)
lmao
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JFL @ all the kikecels that voted no.
Sexual freedom and trying to pretend sex is divorceable from family.
Elitist leftist kikes and whites are mostly responsible for this with their social engineering over the last many decades since at least Edward Bernays.
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it would surprise me if they didn't have a hand in it
@kikecel thoughts?
In that case, the Whites are also to blame for facilitating the social engineering. The reason I asked this question was because I see a lot of incels trying to blame all of their life problems on the Jews (those are usually incels who have associations with alt-right movements).Sexual freedom and trying to pretend sex is divorceable from family.
Elitist leftist kikes and whites are mostly responsible for this with their social engineering over the last many decades since at least Edward Bernays.
They have crazy conspiracy theories about how the Jews are controlling the world, and manipulating us all. Which is not entirely wrong, just exaggarated. But at this point it feels like incel spaces have become alt-right echo chambers. I am however, aware that most Big Tech companies (and even news outlets) are run by Jews, that could give them a stage to push their ideologies, but my problem with that is the assumption that all Jews are one inseparable unit. Meaning, they all have the same political ideology, and subsequently, the same intentions.
The Jews arent a monolithic hivemind species from outer space.
With that being said, the neo liberal academia and political scene, both of which are highly populated by jews, have done a tremendous ammount of work to demolish societal mechanisms that have existed since the cradle of civilization, and were introduced because our forefathers understood how unhinged instinctual and animalistic lizzard brain is destructive to the
healthy function of society.
With that being said, the neo liberal academia and political scene, both of which are highly populated by jews, have done a tremendous ammount of work to demolish societal mechanisms that have existed since the cradle of civilization, and were introduced because our forefathers understood how unhinged instinctual and animalistic lizzard brain is destructive to the
healthy function of society.
i's kinda reductive to simply say yes
they may have created an environment for hypergamy to flourish
however hypergamy was rampant before civilization as well
this species is simply disgusting
swans are way better
they may have created an environment for hypergamy to flourish
however hypergamy was rampant before civilization as well
this species is simply disgusting
swans are way better
Well, many of the people associated with feminism and stuff were Jewish as well, super disproportionally so in the likes of the Frankford school. I know whites probably still outnumber them, but you're right that it's mostly a scapegoat.
It's one thing to assess negative Jewish influence in society or even say there is a narrative pushed by some elitist Jews to undermine the west and other societies, but clearly making hitlists on random incel jews every few months is definately alt right cope and hatred as you said. This dude is just so far gone from common sense and never looked back.
I'll say this to my last dying breathe. White Anglo Saxon protestants are responsible for mass inceldom. Not Jews.
In fact, Jews were the original ethnicels in my opinion. They suffered under the tyranny of German stacies in Germany from the enlightment period up until WW2. Jewish males were sex starved and could not assimilate into German society (by fucking White German women). Thats why they coped whatever way they could by espousing liberalism. socialism, and marxism (in an effort to loosen and liberalize white German vaginas into fucking ethnic Jewish males).
From my experience (White females in general most CERTAINLY discriminate against Jewish males sexually). I saw it in college. This was despite I as an Asian person just assuming Jews were white at first.
When Jews got into China, they were assimilated almost immediately. In a generation or less. With Europe, for whatever reason (especially in the case with Germany), Jews simply could not assimilate. Jews were assimilated easily in China because the people quickly accepted them and intermarried (interracially fucked, but moreover, accepted them as human beings).
With ALL of that said, what is happening right now in the current White Anglo-Jewish world order is VERY simple. Its a game of musical chairs. The Jews in America are capitalizing off of White Anglo protestant culture (which were the original feminists). The White Anglo American elite loves strong women. In other words, they love being cucked. Jews only capitalized off of this and made their own version of it beginning in the 1960s (radical feminism).
White Anglos simply did not espouse feminism and liberalism for no reason whatsoever. It was the ORIGINAL virtue signaling campaign. After Japan defeated Russia in the Russo-Japanese war, the Anglosphere was in total panic. The yellow peril was a very VERY serious threat to white males at the time. The news media had a far greater influence back then since there were less people in general (a few people reading the news would instantly spread by gossip alone). White males had to virtue signal (in opposition to the rising power of yellow Asian males), that they were more benevolent and progressive compared to the yellow Asiatic civilization.
What you see in this VERY day is an alliance between Jewish American males and White Anglo American males that YES, Asian males are a very serious threat. Right now politically and economically on the global stage. But maybe even sexually in the future if we western Anglo-Judeo White males drop the ball.
With all of that said. Its inevitable, this is an Asian century whether anyone likes it or not. The White Anglo-Judeo-sphere only tried to delay their inevitable decline to second-ratedness to Asia with virtue signalling and fiat money printing. The hardcore inevitable truth is that the next few hundred years and beyond will be an Asian world order. Inceldom in Asia and the world will only rise if the American navy continues to sail about the pacific seas in the far east.
Inceldom around the world will OFFICIALLY end when the first American aircraft carrier gets sunk by a Chinese hypersonic cruise missile.
We will most likely not live to see that day but its the objective probabilistic theorizing of the future of humanity.
With the White Anglo masses numbers reduced significantly, they can no longer enable and act as a protectorate for Jewish supremacy in the middle east. Also with White Anglo numbers reduced. China and Japan will never fear America ever again. And in this timeframe, mass inceldom will be an Anglo relic of the past (where they screwed up because of their ideological reactionary responses based on their inherent racist fear of the rise of yellow men).
In fact, Jews were the original ethnicels in my opinion. They suffered under the tyranny of German stacies in Germany from the enlightment period up until WW2. Jewish males were sex starved and could not assimilate into German society (by fucking White German women). Thats why they coped whatever way they could by espousing liberalism. socialism, and marxism (in an effort to loosen and liberalize white German vaginas into fucking ethnic Jewish males).
From my experience (White females in general most CERTAINLY discriminate against Jewish males sexually). I saw it in college. This was despite I as an Asian person just assuming Jews were white at first.
When Jews got into China, they were assimilated almost immediately. In a generation or less. With Europe, for whatever reason (especially in the case with Germany), Jews simply could not assimilate. Jews were assimilated easily in China because the people quickly accepted them and intermarried (interracially fucked, but moreover, accepted them as human beings).
With ALL of that said, what is happening right now in the current White Anglo-Jewish world order is VERY simple. Its a game of musical chairs. The Jews in America are capitalizing off of White Anglo protestant culture (which were the original feminists). The White Anglo American elite loves strong women. In other words, they love being cucked. Jews only capitalized off of this and made their own version of it beginning in the 1960s (radical feminism).
White Anglos simply did not espouse feminism and liberalism for no reason whatsoever. It was the ORIGINAL virtue signaling campaign. After Japan defeated Russia in the Russo-Japanese war, the Anglosphere was in total panic. The yellow peril was a very VERY serious threat to white males at the time. The news media had a far greater influence back then since there were less people in general (a few people reading the news would instantly spread by gossip alone). White males had to virtue signal (in opposition to the rising power of yellow Asian males), that they were more benevolent and progressive compared to the yellow Asiatic civilization.
What you see in this VERY day is an alliance between Jewish American males and White Anglo American males that YES, Asian males are a very serious threat. Right now politically and economically on the global stage. But maybe even sexually in the future if we western Anglo-Judeo White males drop the ball.
With all of that said. Its inevitable, this is an Asian century whether anyone likes it or not. The White Anglo-Judeo-sphere only tried to delay their inevitable decline to second-ratedness to Asia with virtue signalling and fiat money printing. The hardcore inevitable truth is that the next few hundred years and beyond will be an Asian world order. Inceldom in Asia and the world will only rise if the American navy continues to sail about the pacific seas in the far east.
Inceldom around the world will OFFICIALLY end when the first American aircraft carrier gets sunk by a Chinese hypersonic cruise missile.
We will most likely not live to see that day but its the objective probabilistic theorizing of the future of humanity.
With the White Anglo masses numbers reduced significantly, they can no longer enable and act as a protectorate for Jewish supremacy in the middle east. Also with White Anglo numbers reduced. China and Japan will never fear America ever again. And in this timeframe, mass inceldom will be an Anglo relic of the past (where they screwed up because of their ideological reactionary responses based on their inherent racist fear of the rise of yellow men).
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Based and high iq pilled. Their whole religion was started because king chad wanted to have more sex. And you cant expect anything good from the civilization that gave us utilitarianism
Based, I couldn't agree more.
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I mean, not all Jews as a group, but the completely disproportional amount of Jews in feminism, cultural marxism, the banking cabal that fucks the economy, etc, is undeniable.
That would make sens until you realized that they NEVER intended to assimilate. Never they even thought that the goyim was equal to them, they think they can rape a 3 year old cattle and get away with it.
When they introduced liberalism, socialism and marxism only the goyim suffered from it, not them. Some may fall for their own poison like become trans or gay or incel but their women remained loyal to them for 1 simple reason : They got kicked out 109 times yet they still are genetically 100% pure despite being mixed together with the goyim from the roman empire until today. Their population is still growing to this day.
They "assimilate" in China? Wrong word, it's more like taking over because the chinese is low IQ just like the subhuman slav.
That would be like "assimilating" with an african tribe by giving them drugs or some advanced weapons in exchange of one of them to go on the slave ship. They are just easier to corrupt.
You are either naive or it goes along with your own interests. @Gog
Cope. Slav and Chinese don't view Jews as subhuman. Neither do Anglos (White Anglos in America viewed Jews as "White" compared to Blacks, Indians (red Injuns), and Chinese who were the main minorities at the time), therefore, relative to those colored subhumans, Jews were white enough to assimilate into American society. And up until in this very day, Jews are very well integrated in American society and are very influential. On another closely related subject, Guess HOW America got into the side of the nationalist Chinese (EVEN WHEN the nationalist Chinese were murdering random white people in China at this time in an episode called the "Northern Expedition" in China. Chiang Kai Shek's wife was a noodlewhore Christian that spoke publicly in America MANY times. (White males supporting ethnic females, nothing new, but this was pre 1945)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar36zk31I30
Where Jews could not assimilate was in Germany. In an entirely white country like Germany, especially in the frontier border between the western world and the eastern subhumans, Jews were the lone minority ethnic subhumans. There is literature on this particular sociological subject in Germany before WW2.
Some Jewish writers described themselves as "depraved" lustful whores unable to obtain sex.
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Yeah far gone from common sense. I'm not the one who believes the holocaust fairy tale. A fucking kike fantasy that defies all logic and common sense.
Are there even any kikecels that don't believe in the holocaust? If not then that right there should tell you all you need to know about kikecels and that they belong on a list.
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Blaming the "Jews" or the "Marxists" or the "Illuminati" or any other semi-mythical boogeyman for inceldom is foolish. The causes for inceldom are out-of-control female hypergamy. The cause for that is due to women no longer having to rely on men for provision/protection. The cause for that is mechanization and abundant oil (a substance which produces 25 thousand hours worth of human labor in one barrel).
Feminism has certainly done more than it's fair share of damage, but alone isn't responsible for inceldom. Japan doesn't really have a dominant feminist political movement/culture, yet they have an abundance of sexless men and obscene levels of female hypergamy.
Feminism has certainly done more than it's fair share of damage, but alone isn't responsible for inceldom. Japan doesn't really have a dominant feminist political movement/culture, yet they have an abundance of sexless men and obscene levels of female hypergamy.
Guess who created feminism dumbass?
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The jews did this.
It's pointless to even elab.
It's pointless to even elab.
Watch your language when addressing me.
Modern feminism originated in the Anglo nations in the 19th and 20th centuries. Do you think it's a coincidence that feminism blossomed in the same time/place of the industrial revolution?
Who gave toilets rights because they needed more workers? Who owns (((dating apps))), media and all that degeneracy promoting shit?
I mean, ad hominem usually indicate lack of willingness to argue. Don't even bother replying to them.
I agree. If you saw my previous comments, I'm not a proponent of this anti-Semitic crap. I don't think the Jews are the reason for inceldom. Nor do I think that the Jews are a monolith. I'm in agreement with you that progressivism has done way more damage and it is what triggered the incel problem in the first place, or at the very least made it noticeable. If you look at conservative countries where promiscuity is not allowed (i.e. where women are under control) you'll quickly realize that the rates of incels there are lower.
Well, yes the are Jews, but those are just a few individuals, it's like blaming white people for the actions of Trump, Bush, and Clinton. If we're going to use the Jews as a scapegoat there has to be an agenda that their pushing. The whole degeneracy that sprung out of their inventions might've just been a side effect. That's why I need for an explanation as to why lots of incels buy into this.
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They have a specific jewish agenda called zionism.
Zionism is not synonyms with Judaism. In fact, orthodox Jews are against the existence of Israel; they believe that any attempt to recapture the promised Land (i.e. Israel) by force is against God's will. According to them it should be done through some Messiah.
Third wave feminism, a majority of writers and backers entirely being Jews.
Beyond Jewish feminism and natural biological female sexual hypergamy one could say extreme forms of social economic inequality mixed with social caste systems added with technological specialization that heavily reinforces the other two being the primary culprit of inceldom. To some degree male incels have always existed in small numbers historically, however, as this technological era has the highest amount of social inequality ever than any other point in human history it is at its worst now concerning sheer volumes of numbers. What you see today is an explosion of male inceldom everywhere which is unsustainable because no society ever survives when a majority of men are completely discontent.
Eugenics as an ideology is older than World War II Germany, in fact the Germans adopted it from the United States and the United States acquired it through Social Darwinian writers and the Social Darwinian writers accumulated the ideas for it from several centuries beforehand. If you study the subject it goes back centuries, but yes, eugenics is a horrible belief system for many reasons.
You can even see inceldom to some degree in medieval Europe where the bishop and church decided which male peasants or serfs would get married to whom.
Beyond Jewish feminism and natural biological female sexual hypergamy one could say extreme forms of social economic inequality mixed with social caste systems added with technological specialization that heavily reinforces the other two being the primary culprit of inceldom. To some degree male incels have always existed in small numbers historically, however, as this technological era has the highest amount of social inequality ever than any other point in human history it is at its worst now concerning sheer volumes of numbers. What you see today is an explosion of male inceldom everywhere which is unsustainable because no society ever survives when a majority of men are completely discontent.
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Directly? Not likely. They're responsible for the creation and dissemination of feminism, which obviously unshackled hypergamy, and we know the rest. But the idea was not to "create/cause inceldom." The idea was to destabilize the nuclear family and further atomize people, so that governments can tax more people and that corporations can massively increase their profits (women are the primary driver of consumerism). Inceldom due to hypergamy, women in the workforce etc. etc. is merely an unfortunate byproduct.
I suppose it is possible that social engineers in the pocket of the *Illuminati anticipated and designed this outcome based on the results of the mouse utopia experiment and engineered feminism to then use their CIA to fund Gloria Steinem (known CIA agent), who then championed, promulgated, and proselytized feminism to be anywhere and everywhere. Or this outcome of current day inceldom could be, again, an unfortunate, but unintended, result.
What do I think? I think in Bayesian probabilities, and rarely in absolute certainties (without direct knowledge), about such things, because evidence/data is scarce and we have to rely on our own reasoning and inferences. I think there's a low chance <5% that Jews (Illuminati Jews, not Avi from legal who regularly goes to the synagogue for worship and has homemade menorahs that he sells online) are directly, knowingly, responsible for inceldom.
*The "Illuminati" aren't synonymous with "Jews." There are Jews among them, but they're not fundamentally Judaic in the slightest.
I suppose it is possible that social engineers in the pocket of the *Illuminati anticipated and designed this outcome based on the results of the mouse utopia experiment and engineered feminism to then use their CIA to fund Gloria Steinem (known CIA agent), who then championed, promulgated, and proselytized feminism to be anywhere and everywhere. Or this outcome of current day inceldom could be, again, an unfortunate, but unintended, result.
What do I think? I think in Bayesian probabilities, and rarely in absolute certainties (without direct knowledge), about such things, because evidence/data is scarce and we have to rely on our own reasoning and inferences. I think there's a low chance <5% that Jews (Illuminati Jews, not Avi from legal who regularly goes to the synagogue for worship and has homemade menorahs that he sells online) are directly, knowingly, responsible for inceldom.
*The "Illuminati" aren't synonymous with "Jews." There are Jews among them, but they're not fundamentally Judaic in the slightest.
It is because of foids and chads.
jews contribute greatly to increasing hypergamy and degeneracy and deteriorating the health of the population. I'd put their responsibility for mass inceldom at around 60%
what's their angle?
jews contribute greatly to increasing hypergamy and degeneracy and deteriorating the health of the population. I'd put their responsibility for mass inceldom at around 60%
what's their angle?
Their angle is that in the old testament god explicitly states that the jews will return from exile ONLY at the coming of the messiah.
To them the existence of Israel is direct disobeyal of god.
I can agree with this sentiment.
I keep getting the same argument here, that the Jews are responsible for the creation of feminism. However, the evidence we have does not suggest that. The term originated in France, and suffragette movement (the first wave), at least as far as I know, was not created by Jews. At most the Jews have facilitated the spread of feminism through Big Tech. Can you link any studies that suggest Jewish involvement?
We can't say anything with a 100% certainty, but to derive the posterior you need the likelihood and the prior. What do we know about the Illuminati Jews (idk if you're referring to Zionists here or not)? And what evidence do we have to make any claims of that magnitude (I'm not referring to your claims, just in general)?
I think most of the anti-Semitic rhetoric is based on unfounded conspiracy theories (e.g. the Jews are importing "low IQ Africans" to dumb Europeans down). To me it's preposterous that whites use the Jews as a scapegoat for all of their problems.
I do however, agree with you main conclusion that the Jews as a whole (including the super religious ones) are not responsible for inceldom. And if they've contributed to it, it's only as a byproduct.
jews contribute greatly to increasing hypergamy and degeneracy and deteriorating the health of the population. I'd put their responsibility for mass inceldom at around 60%
what's their angle?
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But isn't that different than the Jews being a direct cause for inceldom?
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Yes, White Europeans have been manipulated by Jews and many go along with it, what will probably piss off most here but I'll say it anyways is that kikes wouldn't been able to facilitate what they have done in the west if it wasn't for the weakness that is Christianity, that religion is the weak link in western civilization with its insistence on equality, utopia, egalitarianism, and so on.
By manipulating White Europeans through Christianity is how Jews have been able to do what they have done, had Europe and European culture remained pagan kikes would of never stood a chance to culturally subvert like they have.
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My only problem with this is the assumption that the Jews operate as an inseparable unit that has only one agenda to push, when in reality Jews are not that hive-minded. You have ones that believe Israel should not exist, and other who are in favour of it. Just because the most famous manipulators in the world were Jews, doesn't mean that the Jews as a race are responsible for the actions of these very few individuals. It's like blaming all white people for slavery. That's my sole problem with this entire anti-Semitic rhetoric. However, if by Jews you mean Zionists like Hertzl, then we could probably agree that the "Jews" (which are the Zionists in this case) are responsible for many societal issues, or at the very least for worsening them.
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