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If by 'Americans' you mean the ethnically British people who founded the USA then yes.
However that is not what you mean, you mean people from the USA, or at least those who are accepted culturally as White.
They also aren't White, they are mixed. America is a mongrel zone. America is everything from Alaska to the Falklands.
'White Americans' have southern European, eastern European, Red Indian, Mexican, Jewish and Black blood. And not uncommonly something else as well. Could be anything with the volume and range of immigration they've had. As a group obviously, people whose parents immigrated from Denmark or something just haven't got mixed yet, but of the ones who have ancestors going back further, the chance of having all 100% White ancestors is not a lot. Even in the days when it was still British colonies people were writing articles complaining about racemixing lol.
(The flags are on the wrong sides.)
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The way things are now, with the mixing that's already happened, the demographics and cultural dynamics, the mixing is really accelerating. Maybe we're going to have to update the 56% meme as it's too optimistic lol. The amount of young females in the USA that are White and don't have interracial relationships or children must be getting frighteningly low.
However that is not what you mean, you mean people from the USA, or at least those who are accepted culturally as White.
They also aren't White, they are mixed. America is a mongrel zone. America is everything from Alaska to the Falklands.
'White Americans' have southern European, eastern European, Red Indian, Mexican, Jewish and Black blood. And not uncommonly something else as well. Could be anything with the volume and range of immigration they've had. As a group obviously, people whose parents immigrated from Denmark or something just haven't got mixed yet, but of the ones who have ancestors going back further, the chance of having all 100% White ancestors is not a lot. Even in the days when it was still British colonies people were writing articles complaining about racemixing lol.
(The flags are on the wrong sides.)
/
The way things are now, with the mixing that's already happened, the demographics and cultural dynamics, the mixing is really accelerating. Maybe we're going to have to update the 56% meme as it's too optimistic lol. The amount of young females in the USA that are White and don't have interracial relationships or children must be getting frighteningly low.
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White is an American term so they are whatever they think they are. Ethnicity matters more than race and from an European perspective all Americans are mutts. Europe is starting to muttify too but the US is 200 years ahead of us.
If you're ancestry is European, non-gypsy or non-jewish, then yes
60% of Americans are white
40% of Americans are non-white
40% of Americans are non-white
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American is not an ethnicity (it might become one in 100-200 years). They're majority White, by the numbers, but American doesn't mean "White."
no, "american" is not an ethnicity, any person of any color can be american
I consider founding stock Americans to be a distinct yankee ethnicity similar to Boers in South Africa. Ellis Islanders (most white Americans) on the other hand are just a mishmash of European ethnicities who have been assimilated.
It does or at least did. The first ever immigration law that was passed explicitly stated that naturalization was limited to "free white persons".
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I stand corrected.
Only the ones that keep things going
If your going by native Americans then no.
Americans nowadays are just Europeans who thought they were different and wanted independence.
Their culture is a mix and match of European, Black, Latino and Natives.
Americans nowadays are just Europeans who thought they were different and wanted independence.
Their culture is a mix and match of European, Black, Latino and Natives.
White American culture is a mix of Slavic, Med, and mainly Anglo-Celtic culture
The Naturalization Act of 1790 (1 Stat. 103, enacted March 26, 1790) was a law of the United States Congress that set the first uniform rules for the granting of United States citizenship by naturalization. The law limited naturalization to "free white person(s) ... of good character".
Naturalization Act of 1790 - Wikipedia
american whites aren't white to me
colonization does not matter here, it is evil (and besides, that's a very outdated law of the past). by that same logic, many european countries will not be white in the future, as the majority of their ''native'' inhibitants will be browns because of mass immigration. i do not agree with that. america is not a white country, just like how europe will never be islamic or indian or whatever.
like 56%,
but 50% of births
but 50% of births
Culturally? Absolutely not
Im also sure some of them have mixed blood. And im not talking about the latinos and arabs that are classified as white by the feds
Im also sure some of them have mixed blood. And im not talking about the latinos and arabs that are classified as white by the feds
Lol Brazil 2.0If by 'Americans' you mean the ethnically British people who founded the USA then yes.
However that is not what you mean, you mean people from the USA, or at least those who are accepted culturally as White.
They also aren't White, they are mixed. America is a mongrel zone. America is everything from Alaska to the Falklands.
'White Americans' have southern European, eastern European, Red Indian, Mexican, Jewish and Black blood. And not uncommonly something else as well. Could be anything with the volume and range of immigration they've had. As a group obviously, people whose parents immigrated from Denmark or something just haven't got mixed yet, but of the ones who have ancestors going back further, the chance of having all 100% White ancestors is not a lot. Even in the days when it was still British colonies people were writing articles complaining about racemixing lol.
(The flags are on the wrong sides.)
/
The way things are now, with the mixing that's already happened, the demographics and cultural dynamics, the mixing is really accelerating. Maybe we're going to have to update the 56% meme as it's too optimistic lol. The amount of young females in the USA that are White and don't have interracial relationships or children must be getting frighteningly low.
american = nationality
white = race
white = race
American whites are white, American non-whites are non-white
Argentina is probably going to be the Whitest American country soon.
It was a lot less than the Italians/Spanish/Portuguese, but still a lot of Germans/Dutch/Scandinavians/Brits/Poles/French etc. went to Brazil and Argentina actually. Before everyone mutted out it looked like a better opportunity. Obviously their genes have been pretty much destroyed now.
Edit: actually the original Gracie who founded the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu clan was British.
The oldest photo I could find of a Gracie member: George Gracie, who had red hair.
Current generation:
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The Amerimutt meme is real lol
In the Americas you have a mullato that breeds with the mix between an Arab and Native South American that mix then marries a rice . That mix then marries other mixed breeds. That creates the Amerimut breed. These mixed breeds keep breeding making more and more mixes with all races of the world...
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the only way to know for real is by analysing dna results of the populatonArgentina is probably going to be the Whitest American country soon.
It was a lot less than the Italians/Spanish/Portuguese, but still a lot of Germans/Dutch/Scandinavians/Brits/Poles/French etc. went to Brazil and Argentina actually. Before everyone mutted out it looked like a better opportunity. Obviously their genes have been pretty much destroyed now.
Edit: actually the original Gracie who founded the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu clan was British.
The oldest photo I could find of a Gracie member: George Gracie, who had red hair.
Current generation:
Genetic studies of the Argentine population reveal a complex admixture of European, Indigenous American, and African ancestries, reflecting the country's diverse demographic history.PubMed Central+1Wikipedia+1
Genetic Ancestry of Argentinians
A comprehensive study involving 441 individuals from various regions of Argentina found the following average genetic composition:PubMed Central+1PubMed+1
- 65% European
- 31% Indigenous American
- 4% African
This study also highlighted regional variations:
- Buenos Aires Province: 76% European, 20% Indigenous American, 4% African
- Northwest Argentina: 33% European, 61% Indigenous American, 6% African
- Northeast Argentina: 54% European, 41% Indigenous American, 5% African
- Southern Argentina: 54% European, 41% Indigenous American, 5% AfricanPubMed Central
These differences underscore the significant regional genetic diversity within the country. PubMed
Regional Genetic Variations
Further fine-scale genomic analyses have identified distinct Native American ancestry components in Argentina:PubMed Central+1PubMed+1
- Central Andes
- Central Chile/Patagonia
- Subtropical and Tropical Forests
Additionally, European ancestry is predominantly from Southern Europe, with some Northern European influence, while African ancestry is mainly from Western and Central Western Africa, with some Eastern African contributions. PubMed Central
Summary of Genetic Studies
| Study Year | Sample Size | European (%) | Indigenous American (%) | African (%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2006 | 94 | 78.0 | 19.4 | 2.5 |
| 2010 | 218 | 78.5 | 17.3 | 4.2 |
| 2022 | 2,785 | 85.0 | 13.0 | 1.0 |
These studies illustrate the predominance of European ancestry in Argentina, with varying contributions from Indigenous American and African ancestries. PubMed Central+1PubMed+1
Genetic Ancestry Test Results
Individuals of Argentine descent often share similar ancestry profiles in DNA testing services:
- European Origins: Predominantly from Southern Europe, especially Italy and Spain.
- Indigenous American Origins: Commonly from regions such as Bolivia, Peru, and Chile.
- African Origins: Occasionally detected, reflecting historical African presence in the country.
These results align with the findings of genetic studies, highlighting the European and Indigenous American components as the most significant in the Argentine genetic makeup.
If you're interested in more detailed information about specific regions or ancestral components, feel free to ask!
Afrikaaners are more white than South AmericansArgentina is probably going to be the Whitest American country soon.
It was a lot less than the Italians/Spanish/Portuguese, but still a lot of Germans/Dutch/Scandinavians/Brits/Poles/French etc. went to Brazil and Argentina actually. Before everyone mutted out it looked like a better opportunity. Obviously their genes have been pretty much destroyed now.
Edit: actually the original Gracie who founded the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu clan was British.
The oldest photo I could find of a Gracie member: George Gracie, who had red hair.
Current generation:
Genetic studies of the Afrikaner population in South Africa reveal a predominantly European ancestry, with notable contributions from Indigenous Khoe-San, South Asian, East Asian, and African ancestries.PubMed+4University of Pretoria+4BioMed Central+4
Genetic Ancestry of Afrikaners
A comprehensive study involving 77 Afrikaner individuals analyzed approximately five million genome-wide markers. The findings indicated that, on average, 95.3% of Afrikaner ancestry is of European origin, primarily from northwestern Europe. The remaining 4.7% comprises non-European admixture, distributed as follows:PubMed Central+1BioMed Central+1PubMed+1PubMed Central+1University of Pretoria+1BioMed Central+1
- Khoe-San (Indigenous Southern African): 1.3%
- South Asian (primarily Indian): 1.7%
- East Asian (Chinese/Japanese): 0.9%
- West and East African: 0.8%
- Native American: 0.1%
Remarkably, 98.7% of the individuals studied exhibited some degree of non-European ancestry, with only one individual showing no detectable non-European admixture. BioMed Central+1University of Pretoria+1
Historical Context of Admixture
The genetic admixture observed in Afrikaners dates back to the colonial era, around 1681, coinciding with the establishment of European settlements at the Cape of Good Hope. During this period, European settlers intermarried with Indigenous Khoe-San populations and with enslaved individuals brought from various regions, including Southeast Asia, India, and parts of Africa. University of Pretoria+4The Conversation+4BioMed Central+4
Summary of Ancestral Contributions
| Ancestry Group | Average Percentage |
|---|---|
| European (Northwestern) | 95.3% |
| Khoe-San | 1.3% |
| South Asian | 1.7% |
| East Asian | 0.9% |
| African | 0.8% |
| Native American | 0.1% |
These findings underscore the complex and diverse genetic heritage of the Afrikaner population, shaped by centuries of migration, settlement, and cultural exchange.
If you're interested in more detailed information about specific ancestral components or regional variations within the Afrikaner population, feel free to ask!
Makes sense to me
Thanks for the data @SIR ETHNICCEL. Obviously academics can lie or be mistaken, and I think the genetic tests are still rather limited. Still a good contribution to the thread. Glad you got unbanned as well, whatever the issue was.
Like I said in one of these threads, people who are clearly nonwhite will not be tested in these tests. They will only catch (assuming everything is on the up-and-up) the contamination of those who are considered White. Out in society though there isn't that hard of a boundary. Whites are in contact with obviously nonwhite individuals, and those who are considered White but are contaminated. Every generation the contamination of the 'White' gene pool increases.
Like I said in one of these threads, people who are clearly nonwhite will not be tested in these tests. They will only catch (assuming everything is on the up-and-up) the contamination of those who are considered White. Out in society though there isn't that hard of a boundary. Whites are in contact with obviously nonwhite individuals, and those who are considered White but are contaminated. Every generation the contamination of the 'White' gene pool increases.
pretty much
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1i3ta03/most_white_americans_are_mixed
A few years ago, 23andme did a study with Harvard where they calculated the average DNA of African Americans, Latinos, and European Americans. https://mediacenter.23andme.com/pre...etches-genetic-portrait-of-the-united-states/ According to the study, the average White American is about 98% European, and about 94% of White Americans have no African or Indigenous ancestry. However, they only counted people with over 1% ancestry, when 23andme also shows trace amounts that are very likely real, which means the percentage of those with 1 black or indigenous ancestor is likely higher. They also didn't account for other ancestries such as West Asian & North African or South Asian ancestry, which also appear to be common in White Americans.
Using the results of White Americans who posted here, I calculated the real percentage of non-European admixture. Below are the results of 100 random White Americans from across the country and the non-European DNA they have. (Since West Asian & North African are often noise for Europeans, I only counted those with Southern European or Jewish ancestors, or those with over 1%):
View: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QDK2TI6IPcQFXwpI7uiIQYgywcYTuaiBVRHw5ADHMRs/edit?usp=sharing
As you can see, the vast majority of White Americans have some non-European admixture, around 78%:
About 43% of have at least 1 Middle Eastern or North African ancestor
About 34% of have at least 1 black ancestor
At least 18% of have at least 1 Indigenous ancestor, with 36% possibly having 1 ancestor
About 13% have at least 1 other Non-European ancestor (eg. South Asian, Southeast Asian, Siberian)
Only around 12% of White Americans are 100% European, which is still higher than whites some European countries like Spain or Greece. Even whites with 1 distant colonial ancestor are still likely to carry African or Indigenous DNA.
It should also be noted that Non-European admixture is not only found in Whites of colonial descent, many descendants of recent European immigrants can still carry DNA from outside of Europe. This is also from a small sample size, so results may not accurately represent exact percentages.
Using the results of White Americans who posted here, I calculated the real percentage of non-European admixture. Below are the results of 100 random White Americans from across the country and the non-European DNA they have. (Since West Asian & North African are often noise for Europeans, I only counted those with Southern European or Jewish ancestors, or those with over 1%):
View: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QDK2TI6IPcQFXwpI7uiIQYgywcYTuaiBVRHw5ADHMRs/edit?usp=sharing
As you can see, the vast majority of White Americans have some non-European admixture, around 78%:
About 43% of have at least 1 Middle Eastern or North African ancestor
About 34% of have at least 1 black ancestor
At least 18% of have at least 1 Indigenous ancestor, with 36% possibly having 1 ancestor
About 13% have at least 1 other Non-European ancestor (eg. South Asian, Southeast Asian, Siberian)
Only around 12% of White Americans are 100% European, which is still higher than whites some European countries like Spain or Greece. Even whites with 1 distant colonial ancestor are still likely to carry African or Indigenous DNA.
It should also be noted that Non-European admixture is not only found in Whites of colonial descent, many descendants of recent European immigrants can still carry DNA from outside of Europe. This is also from a small sample size, so results may not accurately represent exact percentages.
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