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Discussion Anti-escortcels , give me one good irrefutable reason why we shouldn't escortmaxx.
Paying for sex is cucked.
feels shit
Most of them are NEETs, poor or autists. By not escorting they are justifying why are they out of the evolutionary process since they are incapable to adapt.
but you jack off to other men fucking escorts every night
No reason if you can't do it
Horrible escortcel experience
The foid turned out to age frauded. :feelsugh: ad says 29 but when talking to her, she revealed she's been an immigrant for like 2 decades and she came here when she was 17, which means she's either in her late 30s or even early 40s. the foid is originally from Brazil. from Amazonia...
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the only legit reason against it i have read is the fact that you are ultimately giving foids money, but each to their own I guess, if an inkel wants to experience sex I shouldn't tell him to not do so. I also think those whores will charge you full price even if you cum early afaik, say you pay for 1 hour, you cum within the 10 minutes, apparently the whores will leave early despite you paying 1 entire hour.
you could use that money to gymmax or have plastic surgery or get nice clothes or buy a car. paying for sex is not very bright. If you can't have sex for free then you should not worship it.
Wouldn't this mean that you are accepting a situation that harms you (and even making it worse)? Thus accepting to be exploited and making foids life easier, similarly to a guy who pays for foids pics.
I'm not against escortcelling and plan to do it in the future, though I still can't deny the points above and that it gives inherent value to foids
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hold out for romantic loves
Yeah true
Escortceling can be dangerous for some incels. You can become addicted or develop intense feelings for a whore which happened to me tbh.
the advent of the highly evolved Homo Escortcellus
too bad Homo Escortcellus will vanish as soon as he appears, since he doesn't breed
Prostitution is a fundamentally unsustainable activity.
One reason is that the prostitute has many males cum in her pussy in a short period of time, thus meaning that she wants to avoid impregnation at all costs because, in part, the child would end up not knowing who the father is, so with the advent of birth control prostitutes opt for birth control, thus destroying their ability to replace themselves.
Another reason the prostitute wants to avoid impregnation at all costs (just like with most careerwomen) is because earning money becomes the goal, and children become a hindrance to that.
And because pregnant bodies are not seen as as sexy.
Especially post-pregnant bodies.
And because they are usually single because males do not want to date them because they don't want to be cheated on, and because males (reasonably) don't want to take care of a child that isn't theirs (females don't either, but it is much more rare that they are put in this situation)
Pornography has all the same problems as prostitution. Dancing has them as well, since dancers usually engage in either prostitution or pornography anyway, but even when they don't,
The other problem with prostitution (or porn, or stripping, or OnlyFans) is that usually, males are more likely to want children and more of them than females (for obvious reasons- it burdens females more). As a result, females need to be incentivized with resources (usually money or shelter, other forms as well) to make children for males. Various forms of "sex work" offer females an alternative to reproduction, as they don't need to reproduce to get lots of resources.
Don't get me wrong- this is males' fault, too. Debatably primarily their fault. But think about it- when you are buying a prostitute, you fucking LIKE her, don't you?! You approve of her existence so much you'd put your fucking seed inside of her and risk making babies (though you don't actually, usually)- risk making the gene pool of the world more like her, making parents of the world more like her. If you couldn't motivate yourself to get out of bed in the morning without sex workers (or even couldn't achieve your current levels of productivity without sex workers), that means what you WANT more of in the world is sexy, attractive people providing reliable sex to others as reward for productivity. However, by giving money to sex workers (especially "sex" workers that don't even have sex with you), you promote the opposite of all of these things in the long-term, counter-intuitive as it may seem. Think of supply and demand-when you are willing to pay any price for pussy, more girls will put a price on their pussy, making it even harder to access.
If men collectively realized that sex workers must breed and agreed to support the sex worker who made their children till death do them part and support the child into adulthood while, and this is critical, DENYING payment and "simping" to all sex workers who didn't breed, I would have no problem with sex work.
One reason is that the prostitute has many males cum in her pussy in a short period of time, thus meaning that she wants to avoid impregnation at all costs because, in part, the child would end up not knowing who the father is, so with the advent of birth control prostitutes opt for birth control, thus destroying their ability to replace themselves.
Another reason the prostitute wants to avoid impregnation at all costs (just like with most careerwomen) is because earning money becomes the goal, and children become a hindrance to that.
And because pregnant bodies are not seen as as sexy.
Especially post-pregnant bodies.
And because they are usually single because males do not want to date them because they don't want to be cheated on, and because males (reasonably) don't want to take care of a child that isn't theirs (females don't either, but it is much more rare that they are put in this situation)
Pornography has all the same problems as prostitution. Dancing has them as well, since dancers usually engage in either prostitution or pornography anyway, but even when they don't,
The other problem with prostitution (or porn, or stripping, or OnlyFans) is that usually, males are more likely to want children and more of them than females (for obvious reasons- it burdens females more). As a result, females need to be incentivized with resources (usually money or shelter, other forms as well) to make children for males. Various forms of "sex work" offer females an alternative to reproduction, as they don't need to reproduce to get lots of resources.
Don't get me wrong- this is males' fault, too. Debatably primarily their fault. But think about it- when you are buying a prostitute, you fucking LIKE her, don't you?! You approve of her existence so much you'd put your fucking seed inside of her and risk making babies (though you don't actually, usually)- risk making the gene pool of the world more like her, making parents of the world more like her. If you couldn't motivate yourself to get out of bed in the morning without sex workers (or even couldn't achieve your current levels of productivity without sex workers), that means what you WANT more of in the world is sexy, attractive people providing reliable sex to others as reward for productivity. However, by giving money to sex workers (especially "sex" workers that don't even have sex with you), you promote the opposite of all of these things in the long-term, counter-intuitive as it may seem. Think of supply and demand-when you are willing to pay any price for pussy, more girls will put a price on their pussy, making it even harder to access.
If men collectively realized that sex workers must breed and agreed to support the sex worker who made their children till death do them part and support the child into adulthood while, and this is critical, DENYING payment and "simping" to all sex workers who didn't breed, I would have no problem with sex work.
“Thus accepting to be exploited and making foids life easier” Normies do this with going out on dates/paying for their shit. The difference is that escortcelling means that you are paying directly for sex rather than having a chance at it.
There is a massive difference between putting a dick inside a foid than paying for pixels of genitals that you can see for free.
They don't pay for sex though, the foid can get free food without giving them sex and the foid voluntarily chooses to spend time and start a relationship with him, regardless of getting more money from it (most of the time). So no, it's not the same.
You are reducing things too much, aside that most couples come from similar economic backgrounds, so this doesn't represent normies life's. If relationships were merely [UWSL]transactional[/UWSL], as escortcelling is, then many people here could easily get one and poor men wouldn't be as fertile as they are.
There is none difference when it comes to giving inherent value to them, worsening the sexual marketing and making their life easier (all of them are doing it), which is the point of the argument. The only difference is the pleasure received by the one who pays, but I still can't see how this makes it less cucked.
Though your whole reasoning relied on whataboutism, you didn't address why prostitution isn't harmful, you just said that other ways of getting pussy also have the same problem
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anti-escortcel-cels neither. But at least my life is less miserable than their. Also Chad, foids and normies are careless about breed. When they breed is usually an error. Not to
Sex is a [UWSL]physiological need. Blackpilled incels who hold back of escorting because they are making foids life easier should understand that the win of others isn´t necesary our lose. [/UWSL]
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You're Offered $50,000, But If You Accept, The Person You Hate Most In The World Gets $100,000. Do You Take The Money?
You can see variations of this question everywhere online, and a thread I was just in recently reminded me of this question: https://incels.is/threads/would-you-fuck-a-stacy-to-save-her-chad-husbands-life.337473 This is my rationalization: For me the choice is obvious, I'm taking the money...
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Escorts and incels have a simbiotic relation. At the end we are just animals. That cocodrile is making those birds life easier since they don´t have to seek their food. If the birds don´t clean his mouth, the teeth of the cocodrile will rot and his ability for hunt would be disabled.
Incels like all men were programmed to fuck but foids were programmed to fuck the top tier men in order to improve and evolve the species.
In this System whores are literally making us a favor because aside of monogamy they have other ways to survive while we rot. If they don´t escortmax, they should overcome their inceldom until run out of copes and kts
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf3o5ZSWBlk
That being said. NEETs and poorcels can work as delivery men for Uber. Isn´t like LDAR makes a difference. An autistic men are man children who think that the escort cares about their NT-ness
. Is ok if they don´t do it, but they shouldn´t push our fellow brocels to don´t do it and I believe that is the center of this debate.
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“They don’t pay for sex though”
Then answer me what is the purpose of normies paying for a foid’s meals? Female validation? Which has really no value whatsoever.
At its core relationships are transactional as normies and chads pay for it through their looks, commitment in exchange for intimacy
I never claimed that prostitution isn’t harmful at all literally all it boils down to is that dating apps are the root cause of the dating market issue prostitution is one of the oldest jobs in the world even during the 50’s yet there weren’t many incels during that age.
Cope, the normie would eventually bail on the foid if she didn't give him sex. There's an implicit agreement for her to let him use her vagina.
Chads don't pay with looks. To pay means to sacrifice something. Chad's looks don't diminish as a result of having sex. Chad gets it for free.
Cultural norms that started when foids weren't in the labour market. If normies were solely paying for sex, then the foid couldn't refuse sex while getting the meal, but she voluntarily chooses to have sex with him, regardless of getting money from it.
Chad don't pay with his looks or commitment, again you are reductioning it to make it sound convenient for you, it's mutual attraction and there is no exchange there in first place, chad doesn't lose his looks.
The relationship looks have with your persona is much deeper than money has, therefore you are being desired and that's what happens to chads, which is not the same as paying for sex. It's the similar as saying that people who are just with you for money is the same as friendship, because other's are paying with their charisma (no such thing). I don't see why you want to make it look that your situation is similar to normies or even chads one.
Ok, so that's one argument against escortcelling
Feels good but you have to be a Richcel to afford it
How is it more cucked than betabuxxing/dating?
You mean to say sex feels like shit?
What's that supposed to mean?
You are doing the same if you marry or date one. For the second part you can do other things with her body and relegate cooming to the last 20 minutes.
That logic doesn't make any sense. One thing can't replace another. One could just as easily say that you can stop gymmaxxing, never get plastic surgery, wear cheap clothes and use public transport to fuck more escorts.
Secondly, we can't just turn off our instinct to seek sex. Otherwise this website wouldn't exist.
We don't give inherent value to foids. Nature does. There's no point denying this straight fact. No matter how subhuman they are and how much we hate them.
Lmao good luck with that in clown world. Romantic love only exists in disney movies. Irl everyone primarily seeks their self interest.
Bruh, its a literal whore.
So doesn't the anti-escortcel. The only difference is that the former is getting pussy
Non prostitute women too use birth control. And many times children of single mom whores don't know their fathers.
The goal is not to impregnate the whore.
1. Birth control exists
2. Escort pussy is unironically cheaper than normal pussy.
So you are telling me that escort sex is cheaper and more reliable than date sex?
Oh but it is. If it wasn't transactional no one would be incel. Either way it doesn't prove that escortcelling is bad.
Normies do pay for sex in regular relationships. The fact that they have to pay while chad doesn't proves that Chad's jawline has monetary value. Which is equal to the money normie has to shell out to get the same, and most times worse, sex
Even if you manage to show that the sex Chad gets is not transactional in nature that still doesn't make it an argument against escortcelling for non-chad men
I don't see how this dismiss my point that the foid is voluntarily choosing to have sex with him for reasons other than money
Another View of the Gender Earnings Gap
In 2014, the female-to-male earnings ratio stood at 0.79 , indicating that the median earnings of women who worked full time, year-round was 79 percent of what their male counterparts earned.
www.census.gov
Most couples have similar economic backgrounds, so it's cope to say that the foid is with them solely for money and thus that this is no different than escortcelling (aside from how direct it is). The difference in married couples may be caused due to child birth
I know. I don't think being anti-escortcel means you are automatically in favour of marrying a roastie. idk why you mention date either way, as an inkwel you don't get date, at best you may get used by a roastie to pay her a free expensive meal.
in favour of escortcels, as a subchad man paying for an escort is more cheapter than paying a whore's date.
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It doesn't matter if she has a similar economic background. He still is spending money on her and without spending money on her he wouldn't get sex with her.I don't see how this dismiss my point that the foid is voluntarily choosing to have sex with him for reasons other than money
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Another View of the Gender Earnings Gap
In 2014, the female-to-male earnings ratio stood at 0.79 , indicating that the median earnings of women who worked full time, year-round was 79 percent of what their male counterparts earned.
Most couples have similar economic backgrounds, so it's cope to say that the foid is with them solely for money and thus that this is no different than escortcelling (aside from how direct it is). The difference in married couples may be caused due to child birth
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If a girl confessed her love to you. But you had to go through the usual normie bullshit of dating her, feeding her, funding her lifestyle to get sex would you take the offer?
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So what 95% of normies do is unrealistic?
What would really be unrealistic is a foid wanting to fuck you raw just because she finds you hot.
Don't forget your original argument. Your main contention was that escortcels are funding a woman. How is this any different?
I never denied that money is one factor, I said that money isn't solely the reason why she is with him and thus this isn't escortcelling with more steps/direct escortcelling
okay, if you wanna be technical, dating isn't exactly the same as escortcelling, fair enough. but money is still involved
Because it's wrong. Just like pornography is. As difficult as it would be to do so, sex should ideally only be done with the intent to reproduce. It's highly pleasurable, but very exhaustive.
The rest of our energy should go to consolidating our strength and resources.
The rest of our energy should go to consolidating our strength and resources.
we are talking about inkwels paying for escort why do you talk about normalfags about it or even imply an incel would be on a date
if thats sex than yes
More reliable? Sure.
Cheaper? Depends on the long run. But if you classify any money spent on the relationship as ''money for sex'', then it usually is.
It isn't merely transactional in the sense that you are not giving up something, thus there is [UWSL]exchange in first place[/UWSL]. If money was solely the reason why foids are with normies, then that forum shouldn't even ban looks bragging for subchads, but there is mutual attraction involved. And as I said, other factors why foids are with normies or chads aren't comparable to money, since it doesn't have a relationship as deep as with who you are, thus they aren't with mainly due to that. It's similar to the friendship example. But if your point is that every relationship involves meeting other wants, then yes, they are transactional in that sense.
My argument relies on escortcelling being more harmful to the sexual market, since the latter will inflate pussy value, thus making it more and more [UWSL]unattainable[/UWSL]. And that escortcelling normalizes exploitation of lonely men's misery, while normie dating doesn't, similarly to OF.
But as I said, I plan to escortcel, though I still can't deny the harmful effects of it or act like I will doing similar as men in relationship do
anti-escortcel-cels neither. But at least my life is less miserable than their. Also Chad, foids and normies are careless about breed. When they breed is usually an error. Not to
Sex is a [UWSL]physiological need. Blackpilled incels who hold back of escorting because they are making foids life easier should understand that the win of others isn´t necesary our lose. [/UWSL]
[UWSL][/UWSL]You're Offered $50,000, But If You Accept, The Person You Hate Most In The World Gets $100,000. Do You Take The Money?
You can see variations of this question everywhere online, and a thread I was just in recently reminded me of this question: https://incels.is/threads/would-you-fuck-a-stacy-to-save-her-chad-husbands-life.337473 This is my rationalization: For me the choice is obvious, I'm taking the money...
Escorts and incels have a simbiotic relation. At the end we are just animals. That cocodrile is making those birds life easier since they don´t have to seek their food. If the birds don´t clean his mouth, the teeth of the cocodrile will rot and his ability for hunt would be disabled.
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Incels like all men were programmed to fuck but foids were programmed to fuck the top tier men in order to improve and evolve the species.
In this System whores are literally making us a favor because aside of monogamy they have other ways to survive while we rot. If they don´t escortmax, they should overcome their inceldom until run out of copes and kts
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf3o5ZSWBlk
That being said. NEETs and poorcels can work as delivery men for Uber. Isn´t like LDAR makes a difference. An autistic men are man children who think that the escort cares about their NT-ness
It's not a physiological need and there are other ways to meet your sexual desires.
Making foids life easier implies that they will rely more and more on that kind of service, thus worsening inceldom and relationships overall. OF is an example of it.
They are profiting from the situation they put you in, they are causing your loneliness in first place. It's not the bird that is [UWSL]dirtying the crocodile's mouth or the crocodile that is taking way the bird's food to take advantage from it later[/UWSL]
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Agree with this. It depends of the long run. The foid may have better options later(by discovering dating apps or better looking men in her social circle). Foids like men have their preference. Some men put face over weight, others put height over face like some foids put height over face and viceversa(that is deeply involved in her past experiences and options. They are pickier since they will always have better options).
First of all. Why are you caring about dating? Dating is something recent in the world. Foids were either raped(raping ironically developed their hypergamy and lookism) or treated like property. Escorting is only harmful if there´s an State like we know involved. An State that uses men´s resources to include foids in workplace market when is easier for them to be full time whores. Escorting is the oldest profession but inceldom rates increased in the last years due to other reasons. Otherwise it would´ve the same.
Also, shouldn´t Americans and Nordics have the lowest inceldom rates by this logic? Dating , PUA programs, webcamming and nude selling apps root from the fact that men overrate female validation since they lack of sex. You as a thirdwolder should know that such things come from those places. Chad and Chadlites are careless of such thing because they have regular sexual experiences. A regular escortcel would do the same. If a regular escortcel feels bad would more due to social pressure and hive mind mentality.
Is a doping that won´t last longer. We weren´t mean to jack off for the long run. We weren´t mean to play vidya. We were mean to eat, grow, poop, fuck and die. Otherwise why sexless men that cover their other phisiological needs kill themselves? Because they are not following their programming. Therefore they feel empty and lack of purpose in life.
Again. This COULD BE as long foids are encouraged by the State to study useless careers, receive economic support and provide abortion and birth control pills. And is a could be. We have had such States for 70-80 years but it was until the 4th Industrial Revolution that desperate from anti-escorting countries popularized PUA programs, nude buying and tiping bucks in webcams in order to receive female validation and jack off.
This is relative. A 5´10 white man could´ve been engaged or married 40 years ago. But someone like me has never had option it doesn´t matter space and time. In all cases cope!!! Is just entitlement to think that we were put in this situation. In the most primal eras we should´ve had to rape(by pulling foids hair to our cave) or die in a battle royal (compete with the top tier men). Monogamy was also an imposition like is being outcasted today.
Our case is the same of the cocodrile. Nature puts us in this situation. If we had been top tier men we wouldn´t have been to escortcelled. If the cocodrile had had long arms he wouldn´t have been to depend of a bird.
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Speaking from experience?
By that logic all sex where contraceptives are involved is wrong.
The fact of the matter is you wouldn't consider yourself an incel if you managed to date a foid. You very presence on this website is hooked on that. The hidden implication is that you are willing to date a woman. Whether you can is irrelevant.
You claim that you wouldn't want to fund a whore's lifestyle. Then back it up. Tell me what you'd do if the opportunity to date a girl subject to the condition that you pay for her lifestyle.
But why would you classify it as anything else? It would've been different if both partners were paying equally or if the foid was spending money or otherwise if the foid was a loyal virgin who believes in sanctity marriage. None of which are true in most modern relationships.
So the normie pays some in looks and compensates for the rest with money. Still can't see why the latter is any differenr from escortcelling. They just don't get the "chad discount"
Meanwhile roasties in the real world are constantly monkey branching, cheating, picking from their orbiters, having casual sex with chads, cucking their betabuxxes.
Half your income, or even more for starfish sex once a week. Yeah I think value of pussy for incels who don't get the "looks discount" i[UWSL]s already pretty inflated. I don't think paying a whore will put a dent. Pussy value is already inflated in so called "normal relationships"[/UWSL]
Most consumers of OF and escorts are normies who could get dates/marriage.
Also jfl at thinking normie dating is not exploitative of lonely miserable men. They are basically paying to not be lonely and miserable in the first place.
You are 15 retard. Lookmaxx, moneymaxx, studymaxx, careermaxx, NTmaxx and get out of this shithole. Escorting should be the last thing on your mind. But if you are still virgin by 22 then by all means go ahead.
Also you've failed to mention any harmful effect other than "you are funding a woman" and failed to show why that is not the case regular relationships.
Big cope. That is simply not true. There is no replacement for sex. Otherwise men would be content with jacking off indefinetly and wouldn't be suicidal or miserable.
Again, how are you not making a foid's life easier if you spend money on her in a relationship.
The regular normie who dates regular foids is already inflating pussy value. He's already worsening relationships and inceldom
The fact of the matter is normies are unironically overpaying.
Yup a woman who doesn't date/fuck a non chad man unless he pays for the dates, pays for her vacations, gives her gifts, owns a car she can ride on is definitely profiting from the situation and causing loneliness by placing all these standards and criteria on men.
yes, everybody should try and if it feels good then continue but stop gaslighting ppl that its the ultimative cope
All these arguments are straight up garbage. Pussy is pussy case closed
''back it up'' based on your unrealistic scenario of a foid ever approaching an incel and offering a date?
i am not giving foid a cent, escortcels are, that's the difference. whether or not in some imaginary alternate plane of existance I would pay a foid is irrelevant.
yeah bro condom sex with a loose hooker is definitely the same as raw dog sex with prime jb
''back it up'' based on your unrealistic scenario of a foid ever approaching an incel and offering a date?
i am not giving foid a cent, escortcels are, that's the difference. whether or not in some imaginary alternate plane of existance I would pay a foid is irrelevant.
Both have pussyyeah bro condom sex with a loose hooker is definitely the same as raw dog sex with prime jb
It's just humiliating and makes you feel even worse, especially if you have a small dick.
I mean just think about it: you pay a blown out whore who is disgusted by you an outrageous amount of money just to have her laugh at your 4 incher and then hump her for 10 seconds (without her feeling anything of course) and cum in a fucking condom. Why would you do this to yourself?
I mean just think about it: you pay a blown out whore who is disgusted by you an outrageous amount of money just to have her laugh at your 4 incher and then hump her for 10 seconds (without her feeling anything of course) and cum in a fucking condom. Why would you do this to yourself?
Straight garbage. Put your post on a trash can.
Straight garbage. Put your post on a trash can.
I’ve never heard an argument about bad pussy before. It’s ludicrous to think that getting it will make you feel worse
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