yes, everybody should try and if it feels good then continue but stop gaslighting ppl that its the ultimative cope
Never claimed that. I just want a good argument against it. Something that actually works and doesn't fall apart at first glance
i am not giving foid a cent, escortcels are, that's the difference. whether or not in some imaginary alternate plane of existance I would pay a foid is irrelevant.
It is relevant based on your claim that paying escorts is different from spending on your girlfriend.
A claim you refuse to back up again and again while going on totally irrelevant non-sequiturs about how no foid will ever date you. Probably because you know your original assertion would fall apart if you actually answered my question
At least have the balls to support what you say.
Where is this raw dawg sex with jb pussy happening. Point me in that direction.
According to whom? Feminists? Soyciety?
Why do you care about the opinions of a literal whore.
just to have her laugh at your 4 incher
Find an escort that is actually good at her job
then hump her for 10 seconds
Usual engagements are 30 minutes to 2 hours long depending on how much you pay.
and cum in a fucking condom.
Condom sex is also common outside of escorting
It's not solely for sex, it's mostly about helping each other and as I showed before, they do have similar economic status, thus it's not the women are there solely for the economic benefits.
Similar ecomomic status is irrelevant if the guy is still paying. Things would be different if he was not paying at all.
All you people forget your original argument, that "escortcelling is bad because it is funding a woman" but you don't give me one single good argument why you are not funding a woman in regular relationship. (Except the regular mental gymnastics)
Because as I said, she is not with him because of his money, but mainly because of who he is (which includes looks). Also:
If you believe the blackpill then its mostly looks. But the real question is why is this not transactional. Getting a chad discount doesn't mean its not transactional.
Data counters the betabuxx part. But I was not trying to evaluate which one is better to the guy involved on them, I was just saying that those relationships shouldn't be treated as the same.
And my point was that considering foid behavior relationships aren't as "deep" as you think they are.
Things would be different if virgins who marry their man and both partners love each other for life still existed. Everything else might as well be a transaction in a brothel.
Again, foids are not with them solely for the money, you need to stop treating it the same way it treat escortcelling.
The point is if it was really different then money wouldn't have been involved in the first place.
Sure it is, but OF and escortcelling only make it worse.
The pussy cartel refers to women's artificially inflating the value of sex via price-fixing. It is relatively easy for women to artificially inflate the value...
incels.wiki
Take the money spend by men on OF and escorts on one hand and the money spend in relationships on other. Calculate the national average and tell me which is larger. Who is spending more on funding a woman's lifestyle.
"Oh but those are different things OP"
why?
Why?
WHY?
Instead of playing mental gymnastics give me one good reason that actually makes sense.
I never claimed otherwise and my point doesn't rely on that.
Again:
You explicitly claimed that escortcels are exploiting lonely miserable men. I don't disagree but how is that different from exploitation of men in normal relationships which I pointed out in the comment to which you made this reply.
Imagine thinking a 17 year old KHHV in Brazil (where people usually have their first kisses at 11-13) stands a chance. Already tried to social circlemaxxing and couldn't get laid, though all my friends did, so that's not the issue.
Yeah fuck off young fuck. Go ruin your life if that's what gets you off
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No, I mentioned how they are harmful in the sexual marketing.
Because those relationships are usually based on mutuality and not on one side solely profiting financially from a problem he causes on the other.
You thinks escorts hurt sexual marketplace? Lol no. What really hurts sexual market place is female hypergamy, chad chasing, normie simping , sit on her ass while normie pays for a crumb of pussy. And ultimately women's rights. Especially the right to choose whoever they fuck without consequence.
Escorts are not in the sexual marketplace, they are in the pussy marketplace. You are not trying to date her.
If normie relationships were actually based on mutuality then men wouldn't be paying the lion's share of money to upkeep that relationship. How can you not get this simple point across your head. The one and only reason men are spending money is cuz woman are gatekeepers of sex and wouldn't do it without the $$$. Women still get to profit financially and they create more ptoblems in your life than an escort ever will.
Well, we don't know if they are killing themselves for lack of relationship or sex, but masturbation does cease one's sexual desire.
Lmao look at this forum. Half of the userbase is suicidal in one way or another. What's the common thread? They can't get sex. If what you were saying was true then everyone would be content jacking off and this site wouldn't exist.
Imagine thinking that stroking your dick is the same as putting it inside a soft ass.
It's more about harming the sexual marketing instead of making their life easier, but paying for sex gives more value to them than starting relationships for them, since one implies a much bigger financial gain for the foid (who can make it her profession), which will increase the value of pussy much more.
Maybe , but that would also make pussy available to the highest bidder. That would still be preferable to what we have now. Anti-escortcels like to pretend that modern women aren't chad chasing, ONS having, polygamous whores already. They like to pretend that their pussy's value isn't inflated in normal relationships where they get free lunch just for existing and opening their legs.
I noticed that you haven't refuted any of my points.
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Also, if women were more and more interested in those kind of relationships, how could that lead to more incels? I still can't see in what way it inflates the value of pussy.
Just pick up any news article or graph about rising male virginity. I'm sure you don't think that so many men are going incels because women are turning to porn/OF/escorting etc. The number of women in these professions is still low.
[UWSL]Women in the normal world, engaging in normal relationships are getting inflated prices for their axe wound. Which is making impossible for rest of average men to gain access to it. [/UWSL]
The simple fact that the man is paying for the relationship already implies that there is some monetary value(inflated or otherwise) to the pussy. How can you not get this very simple point across your head. I've repeated it multiple times now.
Indeed, but that's not what happens in normies relationships
You probably think like that because you are a school fuck. Maybe relationships in schools are still not that monetary in nature since everyone is broke. But even someone like you can see that those boys with rich parents always have it relatively easy when it comes to dating. What does that tell you?
I'm not saying its entirely monetary. The better looking you are , the more discount you get. The less you have to pay with money/time/resources etc. But anyone who uses their brain can see the inherent transactional nature.
The only difference with escortcelling is that you are compensating for all your flaws by full monetary payment for the sex part.
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