Serious An actual solution?

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Instead of not working - why aren't more incels going into fields that relate to making sex bots a reality.
Electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, computer systems engineering, just anything in the general direction of AI, robotiks, whomever is in charge of optimising the right materials for the "skin&flesh". Lawyers for future legal battles over what is and isn't allowed, what is regulated how.
Tech in the form of dating apps made the sex market into living nightmare for most men. I'm not big on most of the leftist thinkers, much less communists, but it would be a classically marxist analysis to suggest the ultimate reason why slavery was abolished wansn't over moral progress, but technological progress creating more demanding jobs, which required workers with some amount of both eduction and autonomy.
Men are born poor on the sexual market, but once sex bots become a reality this might switch. What men want is easier to simulate - already men are falling in love with bodyless chat bots. Purity, subservience, affection, feeling desired, loved, respected. Loyality. Sex. "Men are easy, just be nice to them."
Once sex bots are real, the playing field is more equal - men no longer have to play the dance monkey to motivate women to an exchange where what women give up they had from birth, while what men bring to the table (for all those not born beautiful or rich) is a lifetime of slaving away just to be maybe married once the women has stopped looking attractive and still getting cucked anyways by someone who never found you physically attractive for one second.
Worst case, both women and men prefer sex bots over human partners. So it's still more equal than it is now. Best case, men have an easier time with the non-human replacement, and women get to experience what it's like being undesirable and unable to compete without any way to clear the impossibly high expectations.
Tech has fucked us, but it could also be a realistic way out of our misery. If your country bans them, as long as one single country in the world doesn't, the choice seems obvious to me.
This seems esp true because there are a bunch of aspies on here. Amongst those autists with higher IQs, surely some could be motivated to find one of the related fields to get into. This also provides your life with a clear mission, something that plays to your strenght and has a realistic chance of being working out and most importantly something that should feel like something you want to achieve without needing outside motivation.
At least this is clear in the path to success, while anything political seems like a pipedream with no clear steps that could be completed and end in victory.

 

[Moroccancel]

Most incels cannot develop their intellectual capacities in the face of brutal social beating.

And those with enough IQ to tackle such intellectually demanding careers are autistic who can't get out of their NEET cycle.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Sex bots will never replace a real woman.

Cope, they will surpass all humans at everything

 

[FakeFakecel]

Sex bots will never replace a real woman.

 

[FakeFakecel]

Cope, they will surpass all humans at everything

Maybe,but it just won't feel the same as having a real,flesh and bone human foid.

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

Maybe,but it just won't feel the same as having a real,flesh and bone human foid.

Once they figure out how to simulate that, it's going to be over for foids

 

[FakeFakecel]

Once they figure out how to simulate that, it's going to be over for foids

1-We will all be dead by then,SOYcience isn't as fast-moving as people think,
2- foids will do EVERYTHING to prevent themselves from losing their biggest valuable aspect,their bodies. Globohomo will not let this happen

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Those fields generally seek foids and shitskins for diversity quotas, and as more foids enter the more it becomes about who you know rather than what you know

Plus a large part of the field is dedicated to censoring and mollifying AI, etc., so that it doesn't offend normie sensibilities.

If you wanted to actually direct how they're produced, rather than producing cucked AI or robots, you'd have to gain a leadership role etc. But that's not a likely possibility for most incels, since leaders are usually a result of social status rather than ability

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

1-We will all be dead by then,SOYcience isn't as fast-moving as people think,
2- foids will do EVERYTHING to prevent themselves from losing their biggest valuable aspect,their bodies. Globohomo will not let this happen

fair enough which is why we must somehow infiltrate incel scientists into these fields to further the replacement of toilets
at least this is just as general scope, honestly I doubt there are genius IQ incels out there to infiltrate such spaces

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Maybe,but it just won't feel the same as having a real,flesh and bone human foid.

True, it will feel better in the VR though

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

I think you are overestimating your ape brain if you think it can tell a solid human simulacrum from the real thing.

When it comes to the physical aspects of sex, sex bots should surpass women sooner or later. Evolution had limitations when it came to how many recourcess to invest into anything, no incentive to make sex more pleasureable than was necessary to make people want to fuck, no incentive to optimize for user experience over efficiency and practicality.

When it comes to personality, humans themselfs kind of suck. The sex bot need not be perfect, it doesn't even need to be as good as a human, it just needs to be good enough that it's positive qualities in combination with the human flaws it lacks make it worth the price of acquisition and maintenance.

You can find countless stories on 4chan of people getting overly attached to their bitch basic chat bot, that google engneer guy got convinced by his chat bot to kill himself (well, kind of). Yeah, these people might have been vulnerable in some ways, but consider this:
What do you acctually want from a partner? If it takes care of you, cleans, cooks, is always willing to fuck you, how much more do you need?

Men fall in love with hookers all the time, knowing that what they are getting is fake.
People develope strong emotions to characters from books or movies or anime.
You might feel bad for kicking a roomba if that thing has googly eyes glued on it.
The dude from "Cast Away" saved his sanity by talking to a ball with two eyes and a smile drawn on it and though that's fiction, it's easy to believe for a reason.
Sex bots might not give you a perfect simulation of what it would be like to call a girl you own, but many girls would not make you feel that way either, and you might bear with their flaws just for some pussy, some affection, some company.

I would actually bet on the opposite, I think men will start prefering bots over women long before the bots get close to simulating real humanity, I suspect just a bot that fucks you and talks in a way that doesn't actively break the illusion of human-like behavior too frequently will be enough.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

When it comes to intellectual capabilities, obviously not everyone is gonna be up to par. But for the people on here who are smart enough to finish a university degree and have no goal in life and nothing to strive for, knowing what they really want will remain out of reach anyways, those people should seriously consider looking through the related courses and asking themselfs if they don't wanna give one of them a try.
It might even give your life a sense of meaning, since your not only helping yourself, you are meaningfully supporting a cause you would feel personally involved in and highly sympathetic towards.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Also, some japanese companies are doing work in that area, if your one of those weebs who has frequently thought about going there, combine your interests into one, learn the language during uni and go there once your out or switch to a japanese universitie after some semesters.

 

[Robb97]

It is still cucked because you're just assuming your position at the bottom of society. Society has failed to satisfy one of the most existential needs which is the desire for human warmth, both physically and emotionally. And yet you still work like a slave for the others who just happened to be lucky with the cards they were dealt. On the one hand, men will be independent of women, but on the other hand, mankind accepts defeat and lets women become as hypergamous as they want. Or maybe that is the future. In such a world women will only be seen as reproductive machines for the few lucky ones, and there will be few of them. However, AI girls have gotten so good, that even the act of reproduction with a real woman is a chore for the chads. They would rather fuck their AI girls. The average man gets gigachad treatment from his artificial girlfriend, so he doesn't even think about real women. Same thing for the women, they have their female gaze maxed 10/10s in their virtual reality. Real men will be repulsive to them, although they see them more as asexual creatures at that point. Only a few women and even fewer chads will reproduce. The chads will be treated like demigods by the rest of the men. Being pregnant as a woman is a huge status symbol. Some of the men will start praying to the chads and stacies and make virtual copies of them which they then fuck in VR on a daily basis.

 

[Serpents reign]

Instead of not working - why aren't more incels going into fields that relate to making sex bots a reality.
Electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, computer systems engineering, just anything in the general direction of AI, robotiks, whomever is in charge of optimising the right materials for the "skin&flesh". Lawyers for future legal battles over what is and isn't allowed, what is regulated how.
Tech in the form of dating apps made the sex market into living nightmare for most men. I'm not big on most of the leftist thinkers, much less communists, but it would be a classically marxist analysis to suggest the ultimate reason why slavery was abolished wansn't over moral progress, but technological progress creating more demanding jobs, which required workers with some amount of both eduction and autonomy.
Men are born poor on the sexual market, but once sex bots become a reality this might switch. What men want is easier to simulate - already men are falling in love with bodyless chat bots. Purity, subservience, affection, feeling desired, loved, respected. Loyality. Sex. "Men are easy, just be nice to them."
Once sex bots are real, the playing field is more equal - men no longer have to play the dance monkey to motivate women to an exchange where what women give up they had from birth, while what men bring to the table (for all those not born beautiful or rich) is a lifetime of slaving away just to be maybe married once the women has stopped looking attractive and still getting cucked anyways by someone who never found you physically attractive for one second.
Worst case, both women and men prefer sex bots over human partners. So it's still more equal than it is now. Best case, men have an easier time with the non-human replacement, and women get to experience what it's like being undesirable and unable to compete without any way to clear the impossibly high expectations.
Tech has fucked us, but it could also be a realistic way out of our misery. If your country bans them, as long as one single country in the world doesn't, the choice seems obvious to me.
This seems esp true because there are a bunch of aspies on here. Amongst those autists with higher IQs, surely some could be motivated to find one of the related fields to get into. This also provides your life with a clear mission, something that plays to your strenght and has a realistic chance of being working out and most importantly something that should feel like something you want to achieve without needing outside motivation.
At least this is clear in the path to success, while anything political seems like a pipedream with no clear steps that could be completed and end in victory.

The smart ones can most definitely do that. Unfortunately the vast majority of us are basically mentally retarded.

 

[BlackCel_from_ZA]

Sex bots will never replace a real woman.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Forgot the most obvious example: Throughtout history humans personified natural forces, we humanised just about anything from the weather over animals to the stars. Our brain is specialised in human interaction, not gonna go into that here but our intelligence likely did not evolve for truthseeking or because high IQ is so useful as a cave man, it evolved because smarter humans outplayed dumber ones in the social arena. that is where the selection pressure for INT points went up, the sunk cost ""fallacy"" being a good example.

Our brain is already primed to humanise, give it a human-shaped, human-faced, talking and responding object to play with and I would be very suprised if our brain doesn't do half the work for us with the engineers doing the other half.

It is still cucked because you're just assuming your position at the bottom of society. Society has failed to satisfy one of the most existential needs which is the desire for human warmth, both physically and emotionally. And yet you still work like a slave for the others who just happened to be lucky with the cards they were dealt. On the one hand, men will be independent of women, but on the other hand, mankind accepts defeat and lets women become as hypergamous as they want. Or maybe that is the future. In such a world women will only be seen as reproductive machines for the few lucky ones, and there will be few of them. However, AI girls have gotten so good, that even the act of reproduction with a real woman is a chore for the chads. They would rather fuck their AI girls. The average man gets gigachad treatment from his artificial girlfriend, so he doesn't even think about real women. Same thing for the women, they have their female gaze maxed 10/10s in their virtual reality. Real men will be repulsive to them, although they see them more as asexual creatures at that point. Only a few women and even fewer chads will reproduce. The chads will be treated like demigods by the rest of the men. Being pregnant as a woman is a huge status symbol. Some of the men will start praying to the chads and stacies and make virtual copies of them which they then fuck in VR on a daily basis.

Being at the bottom of society is in itself mostly important because of how it affects your life and self perception. When you're having great sex whenever you want, when you feel loved (irrespective of if you actually are loved), when your brain signals you "good job, you're getting everything you wanted" being low status loses some of its importance.

Researching how to build a sex bot might be the work where you as an incel are working the most for yourself relative to how much you are working for others. In fact, you are working for yourself first and foremost, for other incels (if you care) secondary and for the rest of society least of all.

The ones who got the best genes will be the ones that profit least from what you create, since what they offer suddenly loses value as everyone can have better than human sex and a devoted partner no matter what they got. Chads and women need sex bots the least, they have sex anyways. So yeah, it might have some positive effects on their lifes, but
a) it also has some negatives side effects for them, as it makes them less special, less desirable, their lifes much more like the lifes of everyone else and
b) it has a far larger positive impact on the lifes of the unlucky losers of the genetic lottery. Next to eugenics, I think this might be the thing equalising the playing field the most that also might be realistically possible in our lifetime and which we can actively help come to true.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

One more thing: We don't actually know why or how conciousness came to be. The most popular theory in the field relates to complex information processing giving birth to conciousness. As such
a) AI could at some point develope conciousness without us knowing
b) we have no test, so we would never know
which means that when you fuck a sex bot, you don't actually know if it is concious or not. The thing might actually "love" you in some meaningful sense of the word, as in "it's reward function rewards it the highest score when it makes sure you are satisfied and it experiences some kind of pleasure from that".

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

The smart ones can most definitely do that. Unfortunately the vast majority of us are basically mentally retarded.

has there ever been some attempt to testwhat the IQ spread amongst members is like?
if I was on here more and longer I might just be able to tell by feel. B
ut even then, 4chan is full of retards but you also from time to time find really smart people on there randomly. It could be that this place filters for both extremes of the spectrum, having many below avrg IQ and some some high IQ people at the same time, with compareatively few midwits.

 

[Serpents reign]

has there ever been some attempt to testwhat the IQ spread amongst members is like?
if I was on here more and longer I might just be able to tell by feel. B
ut even then, 4chan is full of retards but you also from time to time find really smart people on there randomly. It could be that this place filters for both extremes of the spectrum, having many below avrg IQ and some some high IQ people at the same time, with compareatively few midwits.

That seems to be the pattern I acknowledge as well.

 

[Quoj]

Most incels cannot develop their intellectual capacities in the face of brutal social beating.

And those with enough IQ to tackle such intellectually demanding careers are autistic who can't get out of their NEET cycle.

 

[Incedel]

Most incels cannot develop their intellectual capacities in the face of brutal social beating.

And those with enough IQ to tackle such intellectually demanding careers are autistic who can't get out of their NEET cycle.