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Just finished Don DeLillo's White Noise a while back; kind of blew honestly. I have a habit of picking up a "classic" postmodern novel every now and again, lured in by an interesting premise, only to be disappointed that the masturbatory, sleek prose doesn't paint nearly the image I'd envisioned. Happened with Ballard and Burroughs, whom I spent my high school years trying to get into because their influence pervaded the music I listened to, happened with Infinite Jest, even Pynchon, who is merely alright from what I've read (V., Crying).

This particular novel was supposed to be a critique of consumer culture and informational satiation. It came across as a self-indulgent exercise of mock-profundity littered with cliches, horribly stilted dialog, and empty characters. A particularly annoying point was the adoption of the tired "child prodigy" trope, wherein the primary "wisdom" of the book is dispensed by some precocious animate encyclopedia. Gay.

I'm working my way incrementally through Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West right now (auf Englisch, natürlich). I might pick up Mishima's The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea next (very short) or maybe Curzio Malaparte's Kaputt.
 
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Turner Diaries - Gets a bit cucky in its appraisal of women at times, but certainly bearable.
Mein Kampf
Siege
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Boring but interesting
 

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Turner Diaries - Gets a bit cucky in its appraisal of women at times, but certainly bearable.
Mein Kampf
Siege
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Boring but interesting
nice, I read a lot of redpilled lit too, speaking of Siege I used to know Rape on a first name basis years ago.
 

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I plan on combining Christianity with Islam to infect the west. what know, @opsec
cope.

everybody knows the record keeping of the jews and christians were dodgy at best in those years.

Islamically speaking, blotching numbers or anything at all on record deliberately not matter the intent is a major sin. so everything written by the true Muslimeen is reputable and need be questioned not. see: amaq news agency, al naba, etc. for reputation. /r/syriancivilwar uses these over western media outlets JFL.

hating muslims = tyrannacope
 

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cope.

everybody knows the record keeping of the jews and christians were dodgy at best in those years.

Islamically speaking, blotching numbers or anything at all on record deliberately not matter the intent is a major sin. so everything written by the true Muslimeen is reputable and need be questioned not. see: amaq news agency, al naba, etc. for reputation. /r/syriancivilwar uses these over western media outlets JFL.

hating muslims = tyrannacope
yeah ok whatever faggot. you don't know about Entryism.
 

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I recently finished Osamu Dazai's quasi-autobiographical novel "No Longer Human"
Pretty good, imo. Although the protagonist is portrayed as a Chad throughout it, I still found him to be quite the relatable character in his fear of society (the individual) and the crimes (shitposting about someone one second and kowtowing to them in another) comitted by them.
I know the tfw of having to wear a mask to veil the dread brought about by having to mingle with normies everyday. I found it interesting how he chose to cope with his dread by indulging in prostitutes (and later, loose women), alcohol and drugs.
I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who has ever felt as if they were being ostracized by society, or those who have voluntarily withdrawn themselves from it.
Setting Sun is up next.
 

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Just finished Don DeLillo's White Noise a while back; kind of blew honestly. I have a habit of picking up a "classic" postmodern novel every now and again, lured in by an interesting premise, only to be disappointed that the masturbatory, sleek prose doesn't paint nearly the image I'd envisioned. Happened with Ballard and Burroughs, whom I spent my high school years trying to get into because their influence pervaded the music I listened to, happened with Infinite Jest, even Pynchon, who is merely alright from what I've read (V., Crying).

This particular novel was supposed to be a critique of consumer culture and informational satiation. It came across as a self-indulgent exercise of mock-profundity littered with cliches, horribly stilted dialog, and empty characters. A particularly annoying point was the adoption of the tired "child prodigy" trope, wherein the primary "wisdom" of the book is dispensed by some precocious animate encyclopedia. Gay.

I'm working my way incrementally through Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West right now (auf Englisch, natürlich). I might pick up Mishima's The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea next (very short) or maybe Curzio Malaparte's Kaputt.
The only DeLillo novel i've read so far was Players, it also happens to be his most obscure work, it was not bad, it was an easy read but half of the time you don't understand shit and it doesn't feel like you have to because said shit feels like it has no bearing on the story whatsoever and so you keep waiting for something to happen and dynamize it but nothing does because it's so contrived in its underground terrorist whatever plot which is kind of a boring set of dialogues between 3 or 4 characters and almost nothing else, it is a shame because this was the main reason why i picked it up in the first place, i thought i was in for some terrorism-inspired thriller and action, instead, all i got was some dude running errands for some underground organization and shit popping up inconcistently left and right with a side of dull conversation and nothing much happening besides that, the book is split into two sections, it narrates two people's lives as they go through "fatal" bullshit and all that, got me expecting carnage and/or some tragic distressing shit, but all i got was mundaneness and uneventfulness, maybe this was the book's philosophy: to show that you should not expect a book to be enjoyable because of the synopsis on its back. but i read a book on accounts that it is an enjoyable story without a second thought of what its deeper meaning is, shallow i know, if that's what it tried to accomplish then chapeau to Players.
Oh and the other part of the book is just the same except it's about 3 people going on vacation together.

I'd give White Noise a try though.
 

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but i read a book on accounts that it is an enjoyable story without a second thought of what its deeper meaning is...I'd give White Noise a try though.
tbh I can't imagine it being too compelling if that's what you're after either. A lot of pointless domestic scenes, no real plot - just detached ennui that's supposed to be funny and incisive but is neither.

I might pick up another of his books down the line, but White Noise was mostly just dull.
 

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tbh I can't imagine it being too compelling if that's what you're after either. A lot of pointless domestic scenes, no real plot - just detached ennui that's supposed to be funny and incisive but is neither.

I might pick up another of his books down the line, but White Noise was mostly just dull.
I might enjoy it, if it has plenty of different and varied scenes that have something happening in them for once, and if they could be interpreted and read as short stories with their own mini-plot compiled in one book, also, if it is as humorous as i've heard about it, mainly the characters being exagerated stereotypes, which is something that will most likely amuse me ngl.
 

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I might enjoy it, if it has plenty of different and varied scenes that have something happening in them for once, and if they could be interpreted and read as short stories with their own mini-plot compiled in one book
Eh, not really. It's still linearly structured (it's not Naked Lunch or anything), just spectacularly uneventful and frayed into a bunch of trivial dead ends.

if it is as humorous as i've heard about it, mainly the characters being exagerated stereotypes, which is something that will most likely amuse me ngl.
Certainly comes across as attempting humor, but it's of a small and insignificant variety wrapped in layers of smugness.

The characters are indeed all stereotypes, but it's for exactly that reason you come to hate most of them. Shallow vessels for the author to "satirize" modern life.
 

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Eh, not really. It's still linearly structured (it's not Naked Lunch or anything), just spectacularly uneventful and frayed into a bunch of trivial dead ends.



Certainly comes across as attempting humor, but it's of a small and insignificant variety wrapped in layers of smugness.

The characters are indeed all stereotypes, but it's for exactly that reason you come to hate most of them. Shallow vessels for the author to "satirize" modern life.
I see, still i'd give it a try, i could enjoy it in a "so bad it's good" fashion, kind of like a nanar but in book form.
 

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I see, still i'd give it a try, i could enjoy it in a "so bad it's good" fashion, kind of like a nanar but in book form.
Lots of people do regard it very highly and it is competently written - it's not really a trainwreck or anything. For my own tastes, I found it empty, but it's very possible you might like it. If you wanted to get into DeLillo, it would probably be the best place to start since it seems to be the shortest of his major novels.
 

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Forgotten realms novels especially those by RA Salvatore
 

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I've got a book on Alexander by Theodore Dodge I should probably be reading. The last thing I read was Essays and Aphorisms by Schopenhauer
 

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Came across an American Socialist whose ideas pre dated Fascist economy named Edward Bellamy. Yes he's the cousin of the Bellamy who gave the Americans the original flag salute
 

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I'd recommend the Wasp Factory, it was my favourite book when I was KHV.
 

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Finished HYPERION by Dan Simmons. Space opera with literary aspirations. I'm going to read the rest of the series (there are three more books) because I found it interesting enough.

Finished SEIZE THE DAY by Saul Bellow. Short book. A day in the life of a non-religious jewish man who has been coasting through life as his lack of making something definite out of himself catches up with him. I honestly didn't understand what Bellow was trying to say.
 
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Finished HYPERION by Dan Simmons. Space opera with literary aspirations. I'm going to read the rest of the series (there are three more books) because I found it interesting enough.

Finished SEIZE THE DAY by Saul Bellow. Short book. A day in the life of a non-religious jewish man who has been coasting through life as his lack of making something definite out of himself catches up with him. I honestly didn't understand what Bellow was trying to say.
Hyperion sounds unteresting, definetly checking it out.
 

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The Giver was my favourite book in middle school, I haven't really read any books since then, so I guess it still is.
 

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Chuck Palahniuk? Fight Club used to be my bible. Haunted is good too. Been recommended Rant several times.
Also: The Evil by Jan Guillou
 

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Recently Ive been reading The last feast of arlequin. It is very impressive story wich i dare to recomend to those of you who apresiate horror fiction that is based on our grotesque and unpleasant reality.
 

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I just finished reading Plato's dialogues of Socrates and Nichomachean Ethics from Aristotle. Not incel related, but good reads nonetheless.
 

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I've wanted to read Death in Venice for a while, but I'm too lazy. The story sounds like something I could relate to; envying beauty from afar whilst wasting away.
 

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whats a good fiction story that would basically be St. ER's paradise? in a non-ironic fashion? (no Handmaid's Tale please)
 

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JFL @ Quran.

Islam is only good for fighting degeneracy, no doubt, all the rest of it is a blue-pilled soycuck bullshit.
what do you mean JFL at Quran? It is singlehandedly, undoubtedly, without any form of oppositional debate, the best and most truthful book in the existence of the entire universe.

read it. and the other book.
 

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I'm reading Johnny Got His Gun atm. It's about a soldier who has no arms, legs, eyes and is deaf. It's a good read.
 

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what do you mean JFL at Quran? It is singlehandedly, undoubtedly, without any form of oppositional debate, the best and most truthful book in the existence of the entire universe.

read it. and the other book.
>Be Muhammad
>Successful, Middle-Eastern Chad Merchant
>Found my own religion and holy war my way into a big empire

>Have MULTIPLE WIVES and encourage my most successful followers to take multiple wives too, driving some of my countrymen into inceldom because now there's a gender imbalance
>Wipe out all the Pagans, Christians, and Jews in my path on a quest to become the biggest GigaChad on the subcontinent

>1,500 years later ethniccels are looking up to me as an inspiration

:rolleyes:

Here are some tips for you next time you read the Koran @opsec:

Notice how it endlessly ruminates on the important of Muhammad. Imagine being an egotistical Chad trying to make sure people REMEMBER ME in the future.

Read between the lines and look for evidence Muhammad might not have been such a great guy (destroying other people's religious idols, threatening to kill people who made fun of him, breaking a truce to surprise-attack a neighboring kingdom, etc.) Also consider if there's anything Muhammad did that would seem pretty monstrous if he did it today (Like maybe the part where he fucks a 9 year old).

I'm not saying you can't be a Muslim but I'm just saying from my perspective Big Daddy M was the same kind of obnoxious, bullying Chad that you might find at a nightclub today.
 

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>Be Muhammad
>Successful, Middle-Eastern Chad Merchant
>Found my own religion and holy war my way into a big empire

>Have MULTIPLE WIVES and encourage my most successful followers to take multiple wives too, driving some of my countrymen into inceldom because now there's a gender imbalance
>Wipe out all the Pagans, Christians, and Jews in my path on a quest to become the biggest GigaChad on the subcontinent

>1,500 years later ethniccels are looking up to me as an inspiration

:rolleyes:

Here are some tips for you next time you read the Koran @opsec:

Notice how it endlessly ruminates on the important of Muhammad. Imagine being an egotistical Chad trying to make sure people REMEMBER ME in the future.

Read between the lines and look for evidence Muhammad might not have been such a great guy (destroying other people's religious idols, threatening to kill people who made fun of him, breaking a truce to surprise-attack a neighboring kingdom, etc.) Also consider if there's anything Muhammad did that would seem pretty monstrous if he did it today (Like maybe the part where he fucks a 9 year old).

I'm not saying you can't be a Muslim but I'm just saying from my perspective Big Daddy M was the same kind of obnoxious, bullying Chad that you might find at a nightclub today.
complete slander.

stop reading what the jews and crusaders tell you. Read the Quran and hadith. DM me if you want the truth. what you just parroted is falsehood designed to make you astray.
 

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Charles Murray wrote in "Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010" about the intellectual segregation of western society, and the formation of a new elite sorted by cognitive ability. In the first part, he gives a definition of 'elite' and describes the development of an American elite class. He writes about the college sorting machine, why and how the new upper class has emerged, the relation between cognitive ability and vocational/financial success, and the degree of physical and cultural segregation of the new elite. The second part is correspondingly about the degeneration of the working class.
Link: my.mixtape.moe/ozdwan.epub

If you think about the average college graduate, how many of his interactions are with non-college graduates? And how often do non-college graduates interact with college graduates? It is stunning to realize how segregated we are based on IQ.
 

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Haven't posted here yet, been missing out, some good books.

Finished Sex and Character by Weininger.
 

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Has any of you read The Foundation Trilogy of Asimov? The Mule (which is kind of a "villain" in the book) is incel tier.
>deformed manlet
>ostracized for most of his life
>falls in love with the first woman who didn't see him as a subhuman
>managed to rule almost the entire galaxy, still wasn't respected by anyone due to his deformed appearance
>died a virgin despite being the ruler of a galatic empire
Imagine being able to read people's minds and literally the only thing everyone thinks of you is how disgusting you are.
 

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Post about books you like here. can mods sticky this?

As someone who is not where he would like to be professionally and who is bothered that so many are doing better, I cope with this book titled Status Anxiety by Alaine De Button. The audiobook of it is on youtube. High IQ and therapeutic, and incels might find it helpful since many of us regard ourselves as low status because of our inceldom or looks or NEET status etc.

Highly, highly recommend Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov

For its LITERARY QUALITY


but I know some creepy pedocels here will fap to it like foids fap to 50 shades
 

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Highly, highly recommend Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov

For its LITERARY QUALITY


but I know some creepy pedocels here will fap to it like foids fap to 50 shades
Tbh sounds like a cheesy love story devoid of substance to me ngl.
 

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Dude you will be fucking blown away by the quality of writing. There's a free PDF online of the book
I've read enough beautiful "quality" writing with long descriptive passages to know that i will most likely not enjoy it, i judge books by their narration and story primarily, then comes the prose, which needs to have some of the following:
-neoligistic words from the author; nice touch

-all around bizzare formatting/typefacing of some of the pages

-ranting on a single subject that does not invoke the visual but welcomes the cognitive

-unformal language such as; shit fuck cunt etc

-references to things

-some degree of lyricism
 

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