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Serious A lot of the older people who seem clueless about how much the dating environment has changed probably didn't even use the internet 10 years ago

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Title. It's pretty common on this forum and other incel spaces to bemoan how absolutely clueless boomers, Gen Xers, and even millenials, at least the older ones, are about how much online dating and internet in general had transformed dating and society, and looking at a bunch of data, this realization just struck me. They don't know not because they are purposefully trying not to see it or because they already "got theirs" and so ignore the younger generations' voices, but they genuinely just haven't had much contact with the internet so far.

According to official Eurostat data, as late as 2017, only 70% of EU's population used the internet daily:

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That figure was already clearly boosted by so many young people using it, so, when you substract the young people, it probably falls into the 55-60% range for all the remaining age groups, and since the upper boundary for "young people" was 29, that would include people in their 30s:feelskek:. Just based off of this graph, there's no way even half of people in the EU who were 40+-years-old in 2017 have been using the internet daily.

For the US, I found this graph, which is about just using the internet in general, but it's still only about 15 percentage points higher than the EU, and it's probably much closer to 10 percentage points or so if we talk about using it daily:

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That then would fit with this worldwide graph from OurWorldInData, showing the percentage of people who used the internet at least once in the last three months, which seems to correlate pretty heavily with using it daily:shock:.

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Yes. As crazy as it can seem to us, given that the vast majority of the people on this forum belong to the generations that pretty much grew up on the internet, as late as 2017, not even 10 years ago, there seems to have been no place in the world, with the possible exception of North America, where most people older than 40 used the internet not just daily, but at all, or at least in any other way then very sporadically:shock:.

Now, we all know that 2017 is the year when this forum was created, but this goes deeper than that. Think of how recent that year still is for most people. Here's a bunch of movies that came out that year, for comparison:

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Some of those, if you asked me, I'd probably say were 2020s releases, because they just seem so recent to me. That's how recent the internet is to a lot of older people, not just in the developing countries, but in the developed ones as well, being something they's so far only really dealt with for a fifth of their lives, if not less. Of course so many people on the internet act like the world hadn't changed a bit since the 90s and you are the weird one out for being on the internet, and you can just go socialize like they did the moment you go offline. The notion of the world working in any other way is as recent to them as those movies above:shock:.
 
Its pretty hard for everyone more so for men nowadays unless you're Chad. Foids can get partners but it's always muhhhh he's not Chad.
 
How the internet is used is also a big factor, my grandfather was spending much of his time at home online for longer than I can remember, but it was basically just news, Email, looking into what sort of deals were going on at the stores nearby, and the occasional bit of no stakes online poker, quite different to what you might think of when you think of "using the internet".

There are also of course people who used the internet for their job but not on their own time.
 
How the internet is used is also a big factor, my grandfather was spending much of his time at home online for longer than I can remember, but it was basically just news, Email, looking into what sort of deals were going on at the stores nearby, and the occasional bit of no stakes online poker, quite different to what you might think of when you think of "using the internet".

There are also of course people who used the internet for their job but not on their own time.
Exactly. If I had to guess, those stats are showing us that people are starting to use the internet "fully", so to speak, only very recently and very slowly, and we really might not even be close to most of humanity being constantly online in the way most people imagine something like that. And yet, the situation is already what it is:forcedsmile::worryfeels:.
 
The internet was not as mainstream 10 years ago, normalfags still were set into there old ways. But I think it was changing around 2007.

The only way to avoid "Time Inflation" is to be a Chad or a woman. Normies have to pay and give up liberties each year as things get worse.
 
The internet was not as mainstream 10 years ago, normalfags still were set into there old ways. But I think it was changing around 2007.
Facebook and msn were quite popular in 2008 from what I remember. Most people my age used them (millenials).

Also, dating websites were fucked even when I first tried them in 2011.
 
Facebook and msn were quite popular in 2008 from what I remember. Most people my age used them (millenials).

Also, dating websites were fucked even when I first tried them in 2011.
Dang that's unsettling. I always wonder if I'd have a chance if I were a 6'0" 6/10 Mid - High Tier Normie 18 Year Old 1993 Born Late Millenial In 2011 - 2017 pre Me Too.
 
Yeah I knew the internet was popular back then I was just trying to sound smart or something.
 
Yeah I knew the internet was popular back then I was just trying to sound smart or something.
No worries, just sharing my experience. I think the first time I noticed internet gaining popularity (more than ever before) was when all my classmates started talking about facebook in 2007. My third year of hs. Since then it really blew up.
 
Even my gen x bluepilled (the)rapist told me that some stuff he used to see irl or in movies from the early 2000's like approaching a woman in a cafe are almost impossible now.
 
No worries, just sharing my experience. I think the first time I noticed internet gaining popularity (more than ever before) was when all my classmates started talking about facebook in 2007. My third year of hs. Since then it really blew up.
We're you the class of 09'? I saw that Facebook became available for non college students in the fall of 2006', I guess it took 6 months or a year for it to blow up similarly to the iphone in 2007-08.
 
We're you the class of 09'? I saw that Facebook became available for non college students in the fall of 2006', I guess it took 6 months or a year for it to blow up similarly to the iphone in 2007-08.
I finished hs in 2008 and got my bachelor's degree in 2012. I made a facebook account once but deleted it pretty fast because it was pointless. I felt ignored and invisible. I remember people saying it was strange I don't have it when we worked on group projects. I just used email instead.

Throughout years I mostly sticked to anonymous forums since people wouldn't judge my looks that way.
 
I also think that the information bubble is another factor. My grandmother uses Douyin, so do my parents. However, the content that can be seen by the three generations of us is completely opposite. The content that men and women, adults and kids, normies and incels, A and B see is also different. The platform will push based on the tags assigned to each person, thereby reinforcing the tags and making people gradually less capable of thinking critically, instead accepting a flattened and labeled version of themselves, believing that "I am this way, and the world is this way". Breaking through the information bubble is not easy.
 
I finished hs in 2008 and got my bachelor's degree in 2012. I made a facebook account once but deleted it pretty fast because it was pointless. I felt ignored and invisible. I remember people saying it was strange I don't have it when we worked on group projects. I just used email instead.

Throughout years I mostly sticked to anonymous forums since people wouldn't judge my looks that way.
I'm a couple of years younger than you, but this fits my experiences pretty well. I just didn't want to deal with digitally meeting the normies who bullied me outside of school, and honestly it just wasn't really for me, so it was only after HS that I started using social media or messaging services, but I did have a few forums I've been on for years before that.

I also think that the information bubble is another factor. My grandmother uses Douyin, so do my parents. However, the content that can be seen by the three generations of us is completely opposite. The content that men and women, adults and kids, normies and incels, A and B see is also different. The platform will push based on the tags assigned to each person, thereby reinforcing the tags and making people gradually less capable of thinking critically, instead accepting a flattened and labeled version of themselves, believing that "I am this way, and the world is this way". Breaking through the information bubble is not easy.
True as well:yes:.
 
I'm a couple of years younger than you, but this fits my experiences pretty well. I just didn't want to deal with digitally meeting the normies who bullied me outside of school, and honestly it just wasn't really for me, so it was only after HS that I started using social media or messaging services, but I did have a few forums I've been on for years before that.
I remember the early days of FB. It really wasn't about bragging and mogging. Conversely, it was a game changer as SMS was expensive as fuck back in the day. Then as 2014 and 2015 rolled in, social media platforms became all about social-mogging.
 
I remember the early days of FB. It really wasn't about bragging and mogging. Conversely, it was a game changer as SMS was expensive as fuck back in the day. Then as 2014 and 2015 rolled in, social media platforms became all about social-mogging.
True, but just out of principle I avoided it since I really, really didn't want to risk being in contact with people from my school outside of it.
 

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