1 thing i have noticed about feminists is why are they overwhelmingly Marxists ?

[ryhan]

It makes no sense over all i thought feminism was supposed to be about equality right so why advocate for a system like Marxism which ultimately will make everyone worse off over in the long run ? why can't they be an individualist feminist.

It's a strange thing that trad cucks marxists and those that deny the reality of just how reality is they all seem to attack the thing which works.

Trad cucks tend to advocate for a strong female protection and the sacrifice of their personal happiness for the qoute and qoute next generation rather than being self interested.

Marxists tend to want literally everyone to be equal issue is they will literally do it by force.

And IT cucks they all deny the black pills cause they hate the idea that their selfish overall they want to feel like their higher beings in some snese.

Atleast the trad cucks and feminists marxists i don't know about.

Debating them online on their own terms every criticism they raise can be reduced with the privatization of that thing.

Honestly do feminists even want equality or are they just that in name cause they want females in positions of power or will claim to want that at first but when you dig into the depths they want at the very least affirmative actions being enforced onto us.

I swear their is nothing more i despise than feminists and MRA when they see issues and never complain the root of all of it the ecanomics behind what lead to that problem cause it didn't cause itself in a vacuum some thing caused it to happen.

Literally all the arguments they use seem to be individualist but when you ask them to go down that route they all then act like females instrincally not being at the top is a sign of systematic sabotage against them when they never even tried.

 

[Deleted member 101]

Are we talking about full on communism or just leaning left?

 

[ryhan]

Are we talking about full on communism or just leaning left?

Marxist leaning marxism isn't inherently communist i thought that was known

 

[Aziz]

Didn't read but feminists are cancer

 

[Deleted member 101]

Marxist leaning marxism isn't inherently communist i thought that was known

Isn’t Marxism literal communism?
I mean Karl Marx is in the name lol

 

[ryhan]

Isn’t Marxism literal communism?
I mean Karl Marx is in the name lol

Not inherently but it can be depending on context

 

[Deleted member 101]

Not inherently but it can be depending on context

Ehh I don’t really know much about communism other than it kills millions of people

 

[ryhan]

Ehh I don’t really know much about communism other than it kills millions of people

It will lead to that every time depending on what iteration the society at large follows

 

[Deleted member 101]

It will lead to that every time depending on what iteration the society at large follows

People will starve
Families will be put in labor camps and eventually killed

 

[0x3nf4rt]

They're low IQ so they got brainwashed easily. If you ask them directly why they support the ideology you'd never get a coherent answer. They literally don't understand what they're supporting. I absolutely hate that the idiots are allowed to vote

 

[ryhan]

People will starve
Families will be put in labor camps and eventually killed

Yes mainly cause it looks to equalize everyone by force it says it doesn't but as soon as someone becomes above another person how do you stop it ?

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

Cope.


Oh boy, our Marxist professors here are again at it.

 

[ryhan]

They're low IQ so they got brainwashed easily. If you ask them directly why they support the ideology you'd never get a coherent answer. They literally don't understand what they're supporting. I absolutely hate that the idiots are allowed to vote

They have no principals when i critize them and provide better solutions they don't want it when it would benefit them a hell of a lot more

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Isn’t Marxism literal communism?
I mean Karl Marx is in the name lol

Marxism is just a worldview and has various school of thoughts all united on how to achieve communist or socialist utopia.

 

[ryhan]

Marxism is just a worldview and has various school of thoughts all united on how to achieve communist or socialist utopia.

Yes but not all forms advocate for the same thing

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

I don't think feminist are Marxists - in the sense their philosophical origins don't actually start from the premise of Marxist principles. The only legit Marxist-Feminists there are, is people like Simeone deBeavoir and Angela David who take ideas from Marx and apply them to gender relations.

MOST feminists are actually liberals who take inspirations from the work of liberal philosophers like John Locke, John Stuart Mill and Bentham, They are in no way whatsoever Marxists.

People calling feminists Marxists is just a low IQ alt-right criticism. Feminists are western liberal whores, not Marxists. Stalin wasn't exactly a feminist neither was he based for that matter.

 

[0x3nf4rt]

They have no principals when i critize them and provide better solutions they don't want it when it would benefit them a hell of a lot more

Of course they're not going to listen to you
It's better for your health to leave them alone

 

[Emergency Manual]

I don't think feminist are Marxists - in the sense their philosophical origins don't actually start from the premise of Marxist principles. The only legit Marxist-Feminists there are, is people like Simeone deBeavoir and Angela David who take ideas from Marx and apply them to gender relations.

MOST feminists are actually liberals who take inspirations from the work of liberal philosophers like John Locke, John Stuart Mill and Bentham, They are in no way whatsoever Marxists.

People calling feminists Marxists is just a low IQ alt-right criticism. Feminists are western liberal whores, not Marxists. Stalin wasn't exactly a feminist neither was he based for that matter.

Feminist are cultural Marxist, but not so much economically. Women enjoy too many benefits from capitalism like uncontrolled spending on consumer goods and they have to have their Starbucks coffee Teehee!

 

[ryhan]

Of course they're not going to listen to you
It's better for your health to leave them alone

I wanna test an idea on its own ground reality matters more than preconceptions.

 

[0x3nf4rt]

I wanna test an idea on its own ground reality matters more than preconceptions.

Don't get killed

 

[rightfulcel]

I absolutely hate that the idiots are allowed to vote

Based

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

Feminist are cultural Marxist, but not so much economically. Women enjoy too many benefits from capitalism like uncontrolled spending on consumer goods and they have to have their Starbucks coffee Teehee!

LMAO 'Cultural Marxism' is a term that has resonance only in alt-right circles and is a baseless term. Beyond that, the term has no purpose or academic use. The Frankfurt school of Marxists who saw culture as an appendage to Capitalism - something Marx had ignored. Saying that they saw culture as a means to undermine capitalism is conspiracy bullshit. I'm not defending the Frankfurt school or Marxism - they are cucks too.

But the origins of feminism is western liberalism. You will never see the alt-rightcels admit this, because they share the same philosophical origins.

 

[ironmanlet321]

If only they were sexual “marxists”

 

[ryhan]

I don't think feminist are Marxists - in the sense their philosophical origins don't actually start from the premise of Marxist principles. The only legit Marxist-Feminists there are, is people like Simeone deBeavoir and Angela David who take ideas from Marx and apply them to gender relations.

MOST feminists are actually liberals who take inspirations from the work of liberal philosophers like John Locke, John Stuart Mill and Bentham, They are in no way whatsoever Marxists.

People calling feminists Marxists is just a low IQ alt-right criticism. Feminists are western liberal whores, not Marxists. Stalin wasn't exactly a feminist neither was he based for that matter.

Solid counter arguments.

1 the premises of feminism is inherently subjective unlike same with Marxism so I will define terms.

The feminists I refer to here is the consensus view that tends to view paitriachy as simple obervations like a supposed pay gap existing and then calling to equalise that usually through state coersion.

The Marxist class I am referring to here is the gender and racial altruists type this view is not a majority in Marxist circles but it is a majority in feminist circles very much so.

Vast majority are not simple classical liberals they tend to fall into the racial altruist or gender altruist type.

Best way to see what represents feminism is to simple see what first funded their group or laid the seeds of their discord.

Women’s liberation:
 The Marxist tradition | International Socialist Review

“If women’s liberation is unthinkable without communism, then communism is unthinkable without women’s liberation.”1 —Russian revolutionary Inessa Armand The classical...

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You can also see females over all tend to vote socialist implying softly atleast the seeds of this posion is already implicitly in them of the get go so any other argument they economically make will be working of this back ground.


And the ones that are the type of John Locke they are not the majority as said above your back ground assumptions can change your conclusion on a topic even if the same methodology was used similarly with feminists their implicit bias of socialism is already their that your working from that angle.



The ones that truly do want equality though are easy to convert the vast majority do not though.

LMAO 'Cultural Marxism' is a term that has resonance only in alt-right circles and is a baseless term. Beyond that, the term has no purpose or academic use. The Frankfurt school of Marxists who saw culture as an appendage to Capitalism - something Marx had ignored. Saying that they saw culture as a means to undermine capitalism is conspiracy bullshit. I'm not defending the Frankfurt school or Marxism - they are cucks too.

But the origins of feminism is western liberalism. You will never see the alt-rightcels admit this, because they share the same philosophical origins.

It's a buzz word and I don't use it

If only they were sexual “marxists”

I could make it happen if individualism was mainstream I would surgery max to Chad then it would be sexual Marxism

 

[SlayerSlayer]

WOMEN make no sense. Their public position is to be the liberal "woke" Elizabeth Warren feminist. Their private position (and choice of men) is 6'2 white Chad humping, Trump supporting, cheat on taxes, NIMBY, keep your kid in private white schools, sort of bitch.

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

Women don't consciously favor one political system over another, they just reap the benefits of them if there are any.

 

[FinnCel]

They want to take resources from men and give it to women

 

[ryhan]

Women don't consciously favor one political system over another, they just reap the benefits of them if there are any.

Wouldn't they benefit then from equality?

 

[chadalwayswins]

socialist in the streets, capitalist in the sheets

 

[Mainländer]

Feminism is a variation of Marxism. Just replace "the bourgeoisie" with "men" (especially white men) and "the working class" with "women".

 

[ryhan]

Feminism is a variation of Marxism. Just replace "the bourgeoisie" with "men" (especially white men) and "the working class" with "women".

Depends on which kind tbqh the indivulist kind I have respect for but I have no respect of sympathy for the marxian kind

Women don't consciously favor one political system over another, they just reap the benefits of them if there are any.

Were all humans and every single 1 of us lives by our belifs they seem to truly want to be equal not realzing what that entails to gain some thing another is lost

WOMEN make no sense. Their public position is to be the liberal "woke" Elizabeth Warren feminist. Their private position (and choice of men) is 6'2 white Chad humping, Trump supporting, cheat on taxes, NIMBY, keep your kid in private white schools, sort of bitch.

I don't make assumptions but I know implicitly atleast women control what politics their husbands follow

 

[Deleted member 22571]

why can't they be an individualist feminist.

Foids have a mob mentality. They can't think for themselves, they have to agree with other foids.

 

[ryhan]

Foids have a mob mentality. They can't think for themselves, they have to agree with other foids.

Sad shit

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

For Christ sake people are so liberal with political denominations these days that they have come to mean hardly anything. There are 0 Marxists in mainstream political discourse nowadays. Feminists \ liberals are in not Marxists, conservatives are not fascists. It send par for the course of any political affiliate to label their enemies as a far more extreme version of what they actually are, it’s a common scare tactic - don’t fall for it.

 

[LastGerman]

LMAO 'Cultural Marxism' is a term that has resonance only in alt-right circles and is a baseless term.

It is not a baseless term since it has been described pretty well:

''Cultural Marxism is a term used by critics and even self-admitted Marxists are unlikely to use the term to describe their own ideology. Also, Cultural Marxism has its origin in Marxist ideas but those promoting the ideas of Cultural Marxism today may not always know of this or consider themselves to be Marxists.

Instead, promoters of Cultural Marxism may use terms such as critical theory, postmodernism, deconstruction, or similar terms. Many do not know the origin of their own somewhat Cultural Marxist ideas and may, for example, describe themselves as social liberals.''

''Since culture is considered the primary factor which sustain inequalities, Cultural Marxism is opposed to other explanations for inequalities such as religious explanations, individual choices, or genetic factors.

Unlike Marxism which primarily focuses on economic inequalities and economic classes, Cultural Marxism see culture as a main cause for many different kinds of inequalities:

• Race (Whites/non-Whites)
• Culture (Western/non-Western)
• Family (nuclear family/non-nuclear family)
• Religion (Christianity/atheism and religious minorities)
• Gender (men/women)
• Sexual orientation (heterosexual/LGBT)''

Beyond that, the term has no purpose or academic use.

Gender studies are academic now. Are gender studies now the peak of science? Everything what is considered academic now has nothing to do with science and it is heavily influenced by politics.

But the origins of feminism is western liberalism. You will never see the alt-rightcels admit this, because they share the same philosophical origins.

I wonder who is behind this ''Western liberalism''...

@BrendioEEE

 

[BrendioEEE]

I wonder who is behind this ''Western liberalism''...

@BrendioEEE

I truly wonder who could be behind this...

@HowCanSheSlap

 

[newlyawakened]

They are mostly just cultural Marxists, and only economic Marxists to the extent it undermines rich ugly guys like Weinstein and Ailes. I doubt any of them would want Ashton Kutcher's money redistributed to anyone other than them.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

It makes no sense over all i thought feminism was supposed to be about equality right so why advocate for a system like Marxism which ultimately will make everyone worse off over in the long run ? why can't they be an individualist feminist.

It's a strange thing that trad cucks marxists and those that deny the reality of just how reality is they all seem to attack the thing which works.

Trad cucks tend to advocate for a strong female protection and the sacrifice of their personal happiness for the qoute and qoute next generation rather than being self interested.

Marxists tend to want literally everyone to be equal issue is they will literally do it by force.

And IT cucks they all deny the black pills cause they hate the idea that their selfish overall they want to feel like their higher beings in some snese.

Atleast the trad cucks and feminists marxists i don't know about.

Debating them online on their own terms every criticism they raise can be reduced with the privatization of that thing.

Honestly do feminists even want equality or are they just that in name cause they want females in positions of power or will claim to want that at first but when you dig into the depths they want at the very least affirmative actions being enforced onto us.

I swear their is nothing more i despise than feminists and MRA when they see issues and never complain the root of all of it the ecanomics behind what lead to that problem cause it didn't cause itself in a vacuum some thing caused it to happen.

Literally all the arguments they use seem to be individualist but when you ask them to go down that route they all then act like females instrincally not being at the top is a sign of systematic sabotage against them when they never even tried.

Well most feminists are also pro-islam(at least in Europe) so that should tell you something about them and why it's pretty useless to ponder about their opinions.

 

[ryhan]

For Christ sake people are so liberal with political denominations these days that they have come to mean hardly anything. There are 0 Marxists in mainstream political discourse nowadays. Feminists \ liberals are in not Marxists, conservatives are not fascists. It send par for the course of any political affiliate to label their enemies as a far more extreme version of what they actually are, it’s a common scare tactic - don’t fall for it.

I am describing the mainstream feminists they tend to want equality of out come don't believe me they literally complain about patriarchy cause it pays men more know go to call for indivualism all together and equality of opportunity and they all disagree for some reason most women that vote are socialists or support soft forms of it

Well most feminists are also pro-islam(at least in Europe) so that should tell you something about them and why it's pretty useless to ponder about their opinions.

Yeah that makes no sense why would they support a system that would have them in cages and baiscally make life living hell for them ? why do they support this cancer

I truly wonder who could be behind this...
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@HowCanSheSlap

So quote mining over simplification and conspiratorial thinking like usual sad shit to think your what inceldom is know thought off as

 

[suislayer]

Communists are always people who have never worked for a living and are afraid of leaving their safety net. Hence why 95% of them are college aged soyboys and roasties pursuing useless degree.

It has been that way since time immemorial , even Marx was a fucking NEET.