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Blackpill You can't miss what you never had

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i honestly cant stand the cope that it is much worse to have never had anything at all, than to have had something and had it brutally taken away from you

take these two examples for instance:

-in this first instance, you are a KHHV incel for your entire life, playing the wage game and just getting by. like the name suggests you have had few to no positive interactions with women in general and have definitely never had sex or a romantic dynamic. in your teens and 20s, you feel hopeless with women, but you slowly begin to accept a life of celibacy and lonliness and make the most out of what you got.

-in this second instance, everything physically, economically, and socially about you is the same - but one day, say when you are early 20s (20-25). you meet a girl that is perfect for you in every way. shes very attractive to you, accepting of your incel past (very rare for any woman to understand or accept), has the same humor as you, life goals, parents like her, etc. you instantly fall for her and so does she for you, and you have a great relationship with her. the sex is awesome, your folks love her, you plan on moving in together or have moved in together, and are thinking about having kids and a happy life. but suddenly, it all ends. either she cheats on you (meets a better looking or higher social proof/NT guy) or she gets the ick with you over something you do and loses attraction and leaves you. your whole world falls apart, you beg her, chase her, plead for her to come back with you, but its all incredibly futile. it goes back to the way it was much slower than how she came into your life, and you never meet a girl whos into you again.

which of these two instances is worse? i can confidently say most sub100 iq users here would cry fakecel at the second example because "he had sex bro!!!!!", classic example of incel mindset when you do something that outs you from the group.

if you've ever experienced emotional pain or trauma from people, you would know the second option would leave you much more unhappy and hurt than the first ever could. when you are an incel for your entire life, you have no frame of reference to measure your life quality to - you are used to being alone, having no one, and only relying on yourself to get by in this world. in EVERY instance, the second guy is identical to the first before he has the girl of his dreams enter into his life. and for the first time, he experiences what its like to be a happy human being. he finally knows what its like to be loved, wanted, he is finally optimistic to a future with someone he cares about and things are looking bright for him. but at the height of all these great things that finally make him feel human for once in his life, they are brutally snatched away from him by things he couldn't predict. the girl leaves fast, she moves on quick, while he spends the rest of his life wondering where everything went wrong with the one girl who gave him a chance when no one else would.

both men are incel and socially invisible for the rest of their lives, but one of the men is content with being alone and has made peace with it, while the mind of the other man is tortured for years to come. wondering where he went wrong, wondering if he could get her back, asking himself how she could move on so quickly when it seemed like she gave his entire heart to him and he gave his entire heart to her. you guys may think that because the second guy had sex with a girl that he legit liked that he mogs the 1st guy hard, but you never identify the lifelong problems something like this has on an incel. sure, every normie gets their heartbroken just like incel #2. but they move on quick, either through their large mixed gender social circle or by dating apps. but the incel never has this opportunity again, leaving his heartbroken thoughts at war with his mind for years to come.

TLDR, you cant miss what you never had. you can't be negatively affected by the absence of something if it has never come into your life to begin with. many of you have never really been tested by a glimpse of a happy life, and i am sure that the majority of you would snatch that opportunity as soon as it presented itself. but never be naive, never forget what has happened to you in the past, and always understand that what you THINK you deserve in life is often not what you get. when these things happen to you, your black pilled beliefs will be tested to the shadow realm and back, and ultimately will haunt you for ages.
 
Did you have a relationship in the past?
 
well.....but it doesn't matter if you "miss" it or not.....there's a desire, a want, a need....and knowing being lonely forever is indeed bad!
 
One one hand yes, but on the other hand the broad clearly spreads her legs to the man, so he's not an incel. You can't be ugly and have females just walking into your life and saving you man. :feelshaha:. Not possible. Your example is wrong cuz it's impossible. It's just a little thought experiment you came up with, pure theory. In practice a woman will not as much as bat a fucking eyelid at your suffering, especially if you aren't Brad, Chadlite or Chad. You can't just say 'well here is an incel but a girl is with him for sum reason'. That doesn't happen in real life buddy boyo, otherwise we wouldn't be incels.

As for the actual thing you address; suffering, it depends on the person. Someone who never glorifies love won't care as much. Neither will someone who is purely about sex (but its possible for both men to suffer just the same, or even more, don't get me wrong. It all depends on a person's character. For example the guy who cares about sex might consider himself a subhuman not worthy of existence due to his inability to attract a mate... extreme example.). I guess you can make an argument that someone who experienced sex once and never again can miss it more than someone who never had? IDK? But it's not just sex, it's also emotions like you said. And both 1) and 2) guy are lonely and miserable, so your argument loses merit. It's not true that one feels worse because he had pussy once. If anything he's just a LTN, AT WORST and I'm very, very generous with this right now. Incels don't EVER have girls just spawn into their life and free them from their involuntary celibacy. That sort of capacity for empathy is only capable in works of fiction.
 
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I couldn't agree more; an incel that "asecends" temporarily, maybe as a fluke, and then is forced to go back to many years of inceldom again... doesn't seem to me like they're really doing that much better.
 
Were you in that situation yourself? Do you have experience with women?
 
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can't stand that fucking cope.

fucking sex havers normies crying because they are 2 months without sex and affection, because they broke up with their gf.

and they thinking they are worse than me who is roting for decades.

"You can't miss what you never had, buddy" :soy: :foidSoy:
 
can't stand that fucking cope.

fucking sex havers normies crying because they are 2 months without sex and affection, because they broke up with their gf.

and they thinking they are worse than me who is roting for decades.

"You can't miss what you never had, buddy" :soy: :foidSoy:
so if a woman came into your life and left shortly after making you think you’d made it (you obviously would as you’d never been tested before) you’re telling me your mental health would be the same?
 
Were you in that situation yourself? Do you have experience with women?
no, i am an incel, ive talked to someone on discord who inspired me to make this thread as it made a lot of sense to me
 
You can't just say 'well here is an incel but a girl is with him for sum reason'. That doesn't happen in real life buddy boyo, otherwise we wouldn't be incels.
yeah no shit retard, i am talking about extreme outlier examples, no sane woman wants anything to do with a guy here, its a thought experiment, which (like the name suggests) is to get you thinking
 
I couldn't agree more; an incel that "asecends" temporarily, maybe as a fluke, and then is forced to go back to many years of inceldom again... doesn't seem to me like they're really doing that much better.
exactly and theoretically, they really should be doing worse. they’ve been given a taste of what it feels like to be a fucking human and not a lonely, isolated rotter and they are returned exactly where they came from longing for that feeling again
 
so if a woman came into your life and left shortly after making you think you’d made it (you obviously would as you’d never been tested before) you’re telling me your mental health would be the same?
if someone offers to you your dream gf, but it would only be for 3 years (after that she would leave you). would you refuse it?

obviously that losing something good to never ever have again would suck. but still leagues better than never having in the first place.
 
Breaking up is bad and can be traumatic - but not only does it Show you have the qualities to get girls but also the means to keep them.

Having a LTR as a Gen Z man in 2020+ is a luxury not many men can relate to, as 66% are Single and 34% are still virgins.

A relationship to a girl gives you:
1. Love
2. Emotions
3. Sex
4. Experience
5. Social Skills

Besides sex - you cant buy or archive these things with money or just hard work and even the sex part is massive as an actual non paid girl is on a complete different level than just some streetwalker.

A human who has no goals, archivements or social status is essentially dead.
 
the u can't miss what you never had thing only works if it isn't in regards to something that's a strong, innate, natural, and ever persisting desire. For ex I couldn't care less about becoming rich I'm used to being a little on the poor end. I don't need to be rich to have access to food, a community, and electricity. However, whether i experience sex or not I will always crave it as we will always crave food. so this argument doesn't work.
 
if someone offers to you your dream gf, but it would only be for 3 years (after that she would leave you). would you refuse it?

obviously that losing something good to never ever have again would suck. but still leagues better than never having in the first place.
you are going into it with the knowledge it will end, this is a false equivalence and isn’t related to what i wrote
 
the u can't miss what you never had thing only works if it isn't in regards to something that's a strong, innate, natural, and ever persisting desire. For ex I couldn't care less about becoming rich I'm used to being a little on the poor end. I don't need to be rich to have access to food, a community, and electricity. However, whether i experience sex or not I will always crave it as we will always crave food. so this argument doesn't work.
sure, but if you became insanely wealthy for a short time (say under a year) and subsequently had your wealth robbed from you youd always miss it no? obviously wealth and sex are two different aspects of life but still
 
The normie in question won't be as curious and obsessive over intimacy as an incel since it's not a mystery to them. They will also have more hope for an eventual rebound as they have established to themselves already that they are capable of a relationship. a truecel knows it's over when they wake up in the morning to wash their face and brush their teeth only to see the ogre in the mirror. This GrAYcel is obviously an infiltrator trying to undermine the incel plight.
 
Having a LTR as a Gen Z man in 2020+ is a luxury not many men can relate to, as 66% are Single and 34% are still virgins
i have no clue where this study was conducted but i have a really hard time believing 34% of men in my demographic are virgins. i’ve talked to hundreds of men my age plenty of whom were uglier, shorter, weaker than me and they had past dating experiences with girls whereas i had none, of course i have met virgins who were brave enough to tell me their history (or lack therof) but i think its much more uncommon than its described by stats
 
The normie in question won't be as curious and obsessive over intimacy as an incel since it's not a mystery to them. They will also have more hope for an eventual rebound as they have established to themselves already that they are capable of a relationship. a truecel knows it's over when they wake up in the morning to wash their face and brush their teeth only to see the ogre in the mirror. This GrAYcel is obviously an infiltrator trying to undermine the incel plight.
my example is assuming both are incels, and the second is incel until late 20s and then incel for the rest of his life (after relationship ended)

nothing about either men is normie lol
 
you are going into it with the knowledge it will end, this is a false equivalence and isn’t related to what i wrote
suppose that you didn't know then

would you regret after it ended?

3 years of sex and love vs. a lifetime of loneliness and resentment

even after 50 years of nothing, the sex haver would still lifemog the truecel
 
suppose that you didn't know then

would you regret after it ended?

3 years of sex and love vs. a lifetime of loneliness and resentment

even after 50 years of nothing, the sex haver would still lifemog the truecel
i think 3 years is quite a long time, that’s a very long term relationship, my post is more related to under 1 year or better yet under a month (relationship moved fast for incel #2)
 
my example is assuming both are incels, and the second is incel until late 20s and then incel for the rest of his life (after relationship ended)

nothing about either men is normie lol
if u ascend u were NEVER an incel. u just don't get it since ur a normie urself.
 
25 is mid 20’s. Early 20’s is 20-24.
 
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i’ve talked to hundreds of men my age plenty of whom were uglier, shorter, weaker than me and they had past dating experiences with girls
Oh you poor bluepilled cuck, if bitches asked me how many girls I dated or bodies ive had id also say 10+

Also even assuming they didn't lie, "Dating Experiences" what does that even mean? Like betabuxxing for a Stacy and playing Orbiter aint Dating but can be interpreted as such, and even beyond that Dating doesnt mean => Having Sex
 
so if a woman came into your life and left shortly after making you think you’d made it (you obviously would as you’d never been tested before) you’re telling me your mental health would be the same?
yeah ? it'd go from LDAR to RS/SEX/CONTENT then back LDAR
What's the difference ? you've been there before, matter of fact you've been there your whole life so who cares jfl
 
Breaking up is bad and can be traumatic - but not only does it Show you have the qualities to get girls but also the means to keep them.

I mean, by definition this is kind of not true right? Because in this situation the theoretical non-incel has actually lost 100% of all the women he ever had. Not exactly my definition of "proof you have the qualities required to keep them"
 
This is like saying, would you have sex if you forget you had it, ofc any of us would say yeah
we're starved, it doesn't matter what happens after it, if I eat a gourmet dish one day and go back to eating the same boring shit i eat my life isn't ruined for ever it's just back to the status quo it always was in
 
In other words it's better to be born blind that losing sight later in life.

Interesting take.
 
sure, but if you became insanely wealthy for a short time (say under a year) and subsequently had your wealth robbed from you youd always miss it no? obviously wealth and sex are two different aspects of life but still
that analogy doesn't fit at all. not remotely an equivalent to incel vs "incel" (what u mean is a failed normie :feelskek:) who ascended and lost it all.

this is the equivalency.

Group A

Poor guy who can't even afford medicine for his parents, shits in an outhouse, eats bare minimum, thin as a twig, short life expectancy.
or
Incel, Ugly as hell, permavirgin.

Group B

Poor guy who can't afford much of anything like Group A poor guy. He eventually becomes poor again like Group A but accomplished things with his wealth he could've never thought he would and experienced some of it become rejoining Group A.
or
Low tier normie, fairly ugly, always struggled in dating, finally gets a girl as ur described and the relationship was short with a bitter end.

Group B is likely to be happier since if ur life was super shit but then u experienced bliss u will always have that on ur mind. it will give u hope. a person who is always STARVING (in terms of wealth, intimacy, whatever) who never experienced this "bliss" will never have that hope. they only see darkness ahead.
 
In other words it's better to be born blind that losing sight later in life.

Interesting take.
i’m not sure how this translates to other life necessities (seeing, eating etc) id have to think about that
 
In other words it's better to be born blind that losing sight later in life.

Interesting take.
false equivalency since a person born with blindless TRULY KNEW NO ALTERNATIVE. but an incel has sex and romance shoved in their face everyday through cucks and sluts outside, through pornographic media. through their own hormones.
 
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Oh you poor bluepilled cuck, if bitches asked me how many girls I dated or bodies ive had id also say 10+

Also even assuming they didn't lie, "Dating Experiences" what does that even mean? Like betabuxxing for a Stacy and playing Orbiter aint Dating but can be interpreted as such, and even beyond that Dating doesnt mean => Having Sex
just because you have no friends and a social life doesn’t mean everyone else here does (not incel shaming it’s the thruth). you do realize you can assume someone is in a relationship if you see them being romantic with a girl right?
 
false equivalency since a born person with blindless TRULY KNEW NO ALTERNATIVE. but an incel has sex and romance shoved in their face everyday through cucks and sluts outside, through pornographic media. through their own hormones.
yep, this is what i’m thinking, blind people see no alternative from the beginning while us incels have sex pushed down our throats while never getting to experience it, two different factors that need to be considered
 
yeah ? it'd go from LDAR to RS/SEX/CONTENT then back LDAR
What's the difference ? you've been there before, matter of fact you've been there your whole life so who cares jfl
if you are easily able to move on you probably had no emotional connection, like i said in my example this assumes you are attached andtruly in love
 
I mean, by definition this is kind of not true right? Because in this situation the theoretical non-incel has actually lost 100% of all the women he ever had. Not exactly my definition of "proof you have the qualities required to keep them"
true, what hes arguing is that you have the qualities to get another woman of a similar caliber, this isn’t what i outlined in my thought experiment
 
if you are easily able to move on you probably had no emotional connection, like i said in my example this assumes you are attached andtruly in love
It doesn't matter, your brain will adapt, plus like I said you've already been here before, in the state of inceldom so it's not as brutal as you think.
inkwells should have no issue with it, it's only normies that lose their minds over breakups and go ER or do the things you've said, chasing the foid, begging etc.
 
It doesn't matter, your brain will adapt, plus like I said you've already been here before, in the state of inceldom so it's not as brutal as you think.
inkwells should have no issue with it, it's only normies that lose their minds over breakups and go ER or do the things you've said, chasing the foid, begging etc.
makes no sense, incels are more unhinged and have less to lose than normies so it makes sense that if they get broken up w they will do something more extreme than a normie
 
false equivalency since a person born with blindless TRULY KNEW NO ALTERNATIVE. but an incel has sex and romance shoved in their face everyday through cucks and sluts outside, through pornographic media. through their own hormones.

i think it’s a pretty solid equivalence
 
i think it’s a pretty solid equivalence
I'll break it down for ur low IQ ass

Blind person:
Have ZERO opportunity to COMPREHEND what they're missing out on. Even if someone describes sight they have no way of verifying or assessing the description.

Incel:
Have ALL THE opportunity to COMPREHEND what they're missing out on. Even if someone tells them they aren't missing out on anything. They HAVE eyes and can see laughing normies in relationships by the gas station or McDonald's. They HAVE hormones and can pop a boner when seeing sluts who sell their bodies on social media and porn (REMEMBER THIS IS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS it's inevitable that u see some of this trash). They HAVE expectations to secure a partner by their parents or community at large (especially for collectivist ethnics).
 
Yep. Sharing similar idea in my thread:
 
I'll break it down for ur low IQ ass

Blind person:
Have ZERO opportunity to COMPREHEND what they're missing out on. Even if someone describes sight they have no way of verifying or assessing the description.

Incel:
Have ALL THE opportunity to COMPREHEND what they're missing out on. Even if someone tells them they aren't missing out on anything. They HAVE eyes and can see laughing normies in relationships by the gas station or McDonald's. They HAVE hormones and can pop a boner when seeing sluts who sell their bodies on social media and porn (REMEMBER THIS IS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS it's inevitable that u see some of this trash). They HAVE expectations to secure a partner by their parents or community at large (especially for collectivist ethnics).
yeah, when you break it down like this it’s clear that the two things he conflates are false equivalencies
 

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