Toxic Femininity Would you date a rape survivor?

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I saw this question on reddit and thought about asking it here. Replies in the thread there are basically what you'd expect: they treat "sexual assault and harassment" as a near death experience.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/16f6nss/would_you_date_a_woman_who_is_a_rape_survivor/

 

[Wolnir]

When I think of rape, I imagine the woman being held down and forcefully fucked. Rape to women just means fucking a non Chad and then regretting it when they sober up.

 

[EsIstVorbei]

If she's good looking enough yeah

 

[SociallyStupid]

A woman who was raped might have a higher chance of leaving me (because she might distrust all men or because she might think that the sex she has with me is - at least physically - even worse than when she was raped), but other than that I don't see a reason why I wouldn't date her?

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

When I think of rape, I imagine the woman being held down and forcefully fucked. Rape to women just means fucking a non Chad and then regretting it when they sober up.

I don't even think about that. I think real rape needs to have drugs or bindings involved. I can't even imagine forceful sex happening.

Regretting sex is not rape. Removing consensus midway is not rape.

 

[Repulsive123]

no, only casual sex

 

[Robb97]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

A woman who was raped might have a higher chance of leaving me (because she might distrust all men or because she might think that the sex she has with me is - at least physically - even worse than when she was raped), but other than that I don't see a reason why I wouldn't date her?

I agree and generally there is no reason to not date, but the problem arises when she changes the definition of the word to victimize herself or blame shift. Regretting sex is not rape. Removing consensus midway is not rape.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

What on earth is a rape survivor?

Is it someone who survived a rape attempt? Because I've seen women who were in fact raped claiming to be "survivors".

Well, you're not really a survivor if you were raped. Or am I missing something?

Is it when someone is raped but not murdered? That makes no sense, as the objective purpose of rape is sexually violating the victim, not necessarily murdering him or her.

It does make no sense. They were never at risk of death. It's offensive to people who almost died because of criminal activity, but they'll call themselves survivor to further victimize themselves and enjoy more pussy pass.

Actually, calling yourself a rape survivor might be a bigger red flag than being raped.

 

[SociallyStupid]

I agree and generally there is no reason to not date, but the problem arises when she changes the definition of the word to victimize herself or blame shift. Regretting sex is not rape. Removing consensus midway is not rape.

True, but absent of any other indications I thought rape was meant in the usual sense.

Of course stuff like "I would never have fucked him if I knew he didn't want a relationship" isn't rape ...

 

[Med Anime]

i will give her a worse PTSD

 

[MillionBashStream97]

Why not?...

 

[darkdungeon]

I'm literally trying that now although it happened to her as a young kid so it's pretty fucked up to think about. She's sweet though although she still doesn't like me

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Rape does not exist

 

[SociallyStupid]

Rape does not exist

How would you feel about being assfucked by a guy (assuming you are straight) solely according to his preferences? If you have any negative feelings towards that situation, then rape exists even for you.

 

[real_blackcel]

How would you feel about being assfucked by a guy (assuming you are straight) solely according to his preferences? If you have any negative feelings towards that situation, then rape exists even for you.

Atleast I ascended in this scenario

 

[SociallyStupid]

Ok GrAY. Then female rape doesn’t exist

So why would you think that you could be raped, but a woman - for example in the exact same scenario - would not feel raped?

Atleast I ascended in this scenario

Lol, I would assume even consensual sex with guys should be vastly easier ... sometimes I wish I were gay

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Sure, no problem.

Replies in the thread there are basically what you'd expect: they treat "sexual assault and harassment" as a near death experience.

I wonder how they align their beliefs in how descructive sexual coercion is with the fact of how common it is, and how easily it can be ignored, to the point that a good number of people are unaware that it also happens done to men by women.

In studies with college-aged samples, between 18.2% (Russell & Oswald, 2001) and 49.5% of women reported using some form of sexual coercion to obtain sexual contact (e.g., kissing, petting, and forced intercourse; Carvalho & Nobre, 2015; Schatzel-Murphy et al., 2009; Struckman-Johnson et al., 2003).

Female Sexual Coercion: Prevalence and Predictors in A College Sample

The weighted mean of those studies which were predominantly heterosexual indicate that, worldwide, approximately 17% of heterosexual women have sexually coerced a man sometime during their lifetime. Our studies also include evidence that bisexual and homosexual women sexually coerce at similar rates.

An Examination of Sexual Coercion Perpetrated by Women

When I think of rape, I imagine the woman being held down and forcefully fucked. Rape to women just means fucking a non Chad and then regretting it when they sober up.

Threadly reminder that the most stereotypical image of rape (ie, a male stranger attacking a female he doesn't know, holding her down and otherwise using physical strength and violence to force himself onto her) is also the least common type of it. Study after study have shown that strangers are the least likely category of people to victimize a rape victim, while physical force has repeatedly been found to be the least common rape tactic, to the point that it's the one most commonly found to have no statistical difference in the frequency of its use between male and female rapists, because it's so rarely used that those studies usually simply can't find statistically significant differences.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

No.

This sensation...

 

[SociallyStupid]

Females enjoy rape and orgasm during it. You should read this thread

I have not found anything in the thread or the linked article indicating that women enjoy being raped or that this particular woman had an orgasm. Even if someone has an orgasm doesn't necessarily mean they enjoyed it.

 

[lonelinessmaxxer]

I'm literally trying that now although it happened to her as a young kid so it's pretty fucked up to think about. She's sweet though although she still doesn't like me

Good for you, past trauma regarding rape/sexual abuse multiplies the rate of female emotional unstability by like 5 times.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I wonder how they align their beliefs in how descructive sexual coercion is with the fact of how common it is, and how easily it can be ignored, to the point that a good number of people are unaware that it also happens done to men by women.

They don't. Cognitive dissonance takes care of that.

Threadly reminder that the most stereotypical image of rape (ie, a male stranger attacking a female he doesn't know, holding her down and otherwise using physical strength and violence to force himself onto her) is also the least common type of it. Study after study have shown that strangers are the least likely category of people to victimize a rape victim, while physical force has repeatedly been found to be the least common rape tactic, to the point that it's the one most commonly found to have no statistical difference in the frequency of its use between male and female rapists, because it's so rarely used that those studies usually simply can't find statistically significant differences.

This really shows how overblown the "issue" of rape is. The more I read, the less seriously I take women who say they were victims. Seems like the only instances where actual rape happens are the ones where the woman is unconscious, tied or held down or the rapist has some huge leverage over the woman.

 

[TheIncelPill]

No.

Toilets will bail the moment you show vulnerability or critique her own nasty attitude. We've been told dozens of times to sort our own shit out before we date - why should we give a chance to one with extra cleaning to? Why do I know she was raped in the first place? Does she expect a pity party?

Crocodiles crying now that they're hunted.

 

[Incedel]

fuck no, I don't care about chad's cumdumpster (consensual or not)

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

No.

Toilets will bail the moment you show vulnerability or critique her own nasty attitude. We've been told dozens of times to sort our own shit out before we date - why should we give a chance to one with extra cleaning to? Why do I know she was raped in the first place? Does she expect a pity party?

Crocodiles crying now that they're hunted.

No, I would not date her. There are multiple reasons not to.

1. She is damaged goods. Her pair bonding ability is already damaged by the "rape". This is an unfortunate fact. I believe this fact was also partially responsible in ancient societies for why rape was considered such a serious offense. Some of these societies tended to kill both the man who did it and the victim because they believed that the woman was irreparably damaged by the experience.

2. There is a very high chance she is lying about this so-called "rape". These days, lies like these are very prevalent. For example, she did not like the sex, or she decided midway that she did not like it, etc. Soon, even if you look at her for a longer period of time, she will claim you raped her, so yeah.

3. Women have rape fantasies; it's a confirmed fact. They love aggressive brutes, and they are also the biggest consumers of the true crime genre.

4. Women often orgasm from rape, so you might never measure up to this as her husband. Once she experienced it, it had a similar effect as sex with Chad. There are countless stories about such women being unable to orgasm normally via consensual sex but being able to get off only on brutal methods and fetishes connected to said rape.

One way or another, you don´t want to deal with this crap. In the past, I used to advocate that the raped victim was the only exception for me compared to virgins. Today? Nah. The odds are just stacked against you, and with all the information that I know, I don´t believe it's worth it to date her. Sorry, women created this world; their actions speak volumes. Metoo, etc.—nope, not going to buy it.

Great points. I'm proud of the forum today.

 

[Regenerator]

No raped women are damaged goods

 

[Robo_Cope]

I totaly would , i mean not really but i would trick her into dating just for raping her … if she is a rape « survivor » JFL *survivor* this mean she is strong , easy and can take it and she might even be able to survive me raping her next

 

[FakeFakecel]

Yes

 

[Eschewcel]

"I wanted it, but deep inside didn't want it and I realized later or while he was doing it, so I've been raped"

 

[wgm24]

If she was raped before she'll probably be a feminist type who hates men. When a lot of these women are talking about "rape" or "SA". Their just talking about chad pumping and dumping them. She'll be extremely unstable and not worth the time

 

[wgm24]

How would you feel about being assfucked by a guy (assuming you are straight) solely according to his preferences? If you have any negative feelings towards that situation, then rape exists even for you.

foid spotted

 

[wgm24]

Sure, no problem.


I wonder how they align their beliefs in how descructive sexual coercion is with the fact of how common it is, and how easily it can be ignored, to the point that a good number of people are unaware that it also happens done to men by women.



Female Sexual Coercion: Prevalence and Predictors in A College Sample



An Examination of Sexual Coercion Perpetrated by Women


Threadly reminder that the most stereotypical image of rape (ie, a male stranger attacking a female he doesn't know, holding her down and otherwise using physical strength and violence to force himself onto her) is also the least common type of it. Study after study have shown that strangers are the least likely category of people to victimize a rape victim, while physical force has repeatedly been found to be the least common rape tactic, to the point that it's the one most commonly found to have no statistical difference in the frequency of its use between male and female rapists, because it's so rarely used that those studies usually simply can't find statistically significant differences.

Exaclty. The ultimate truth is that male sexual assault and violence towards women is 10x less frequent than male on male violence

 

[andinocel]

When I think of rape, I imagine the woman being held down and forcefully fucked. Rape to women just means fucking a non Chad and then regretting it when they sober up.

 

[andinocel]

3. Women have rape fantasies; it's a confirmed fact. They love aggressive brutes, and they are also the biggest consumers of the true crime genre.

4. Women often orgasm from rape, so you might never measure up to this as her husband. Once she experienced it, it had a similar effect as sex with Chad. There are countless stories about such women being unable to orgasm normally via consensual sex but being able to get off only on brutal methods and fetishes connected to said rape.
.

 

[diedlonely]

I totaly would , i mean not really but i would trick her into dating just for raping her … if she is a rape « survivor » JFL *survivor* this mean she is strong , easy and can take it and she might even be able to survive me raping her next

It’ll most likely break her since she hasn’t gotten over the first incident.

 

[CrackingYs]

Of course. I agree with 3rd wave feminists that all sex is a form of rape. The woman has to submit in one form or another. She needs to lay down and open her legs, and allow or be forced to have the man to ram his erect penis inside her until he ejaculates. That's what rape is. Sex is rape of a female. Every foid who has sex has been raped. Whether the foid calls it sex or rape depends on how she feels about it later on, and how attractive she thinks he is, and whether the sex will increase or decrease her status.

 

[Emba]

Only mine

 

[My Name Jeff]

yes? imagine finding a girl who is perfect for you and finding out she was raped so you go "yeah i may be a desperate incel and you may be the perfect girl for me but you got raped so you are used goods"

 

[Ellsworth]

Yuck no!

 

[TBIcel]

Considering odds are its regret rape rather than real rape no way no user who dated one here as a hypothetical would also not end up accused of regret rape in such a scenario as the guy who regret raped her probably mogs you.

 

[TFDinGTA]

i will give her a worse PTSD

 

[outcastgymcel23]

No

 

[Filipinocel]

Nah, virgin only

as it should be

 

[fukurou]

nah, they flake a lot

 

[FinnCel]

No real difference between them and modern women in general. Both have taken hundreds of thousands of miles of cock

 

[Zhou Chang-Xing]

I saw this question on reddit and thought about asking it here. Replies in the thread there are basically what you'd expect: they treat "sexual assault and harassment" as a near death experience.


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/dating/comments/16f6nss/would_you_date_a_woman_who_is_a_rape_survivor/

They use the term "survivor", it's like calling yourself a "theft survivor".

 

[SociallyStupid]

They use the term "survivor", it's like calling yourself a "theft survivor".

"Survivor" term is overused in general. Some people even used "Covid survivor" for people who weren't even in the hospital. If there isn't a serious risk for your life, you can't be called "survivor".