Discussion Would you be OK with a world ruling dictatorship if it brought peace and purpose to the world?

[Deleted member 24160]

I was playing Injustice: Gods Among Us game which is about Superman going insane and taking over the world as dictator and it got me thinking about this.
And by dictatorship I mean if you commit any crime, stealing murder or rape, you get killed and you can't criticize the dictatorship.

 

[BummerDrummer]

I'd be ok if they fucked off and didn't tell me what to do and, because said dictatorship is so big, the government is overstretched and small. If I was getting constantly monitored that'd be really fucking gay.

Also if they separated the races that'd be cool too. Put all the niggers in the black district in africa brown people in brown district in middle east and india and shit chinaman in yellow district in east asia etc etc

if it just becomes a "multicultural" shithole where I get watched like its 1984 (AKA the jewish new world order in ~50 years) then no.

 

[Deleted member 19236]

yeah tbh, a world government would be ideal ngl

 

[nystagmuscel]

yeah tbh, a world government would be ideal ngl

 

[FullTimeLoser]

Yes. We're under control of evil billionaires anyway

 

[Unhappy-Man]

Maybe not global, something like the EU for Europe but all countries in it have a National Socialist government.
Maybe the rest of the world under its sway

 

[undergroundcel]

If they protect tradition. the biggest mistake besides the agricultural revolution was putting political power in the hands of the people.

 

[epillepsy]

Yes, of course. A dictatorship isn't bad in itself, just as there's nothing intrinsically good about a democracy (because people are idiots).

 

[Capable_Onion]

Living under a dictatorship would remove my freedom of speech, so I can't really support the idea.

I'm way too outspoken to live in a society where you get killed for questioning the government.

 

[Caesercel]

Maybe not global, something like the EU for Europe but all countries in it have a National Socialist government.
Maybe the rest of the world under its sway

Debased and nazipilled

 

[JosefMengelecel]

As long as we are not under constant surveillance (hello fbi) I wouldn’t care. We already live in a dictatorship controlled by foids. If it was a based dictator who would solve hypergamy then I would be on board. Democracy is for foolish naïve people who think it gives people freedom. Instead it just leads to degeneracy if society. Democracy is good as long as only high iq people could vote and nobody rigs it. But just like communism it would never work in real life.

 

[wereqryan]

I'd welcome a totalitarian fascist system. Seeing the violence, vandalism, destruction, and propaganda is making me appreciate the totalitarian political system in Russia and China. People are scum. They are animals that need to be kept caged and in-check. They need to be managed and guided order to ensure peace, stability and growth. Without guidance and authority, people devolve into their primitive selves.

 

[FrothySolutions]

And by dictatorship I mean if you commit any crime, stealing murder or rape, you get killed and you can't criticize the dictatorship.

Any crime? Or just those three crimes?

 

[PPEcel]

Absolutely not. I'll simplify my arguments best I can because I am in no mood to write an essay.

From a normative standpoint, dictatorships are inherently morally illegitimate. If you, as I do, accept the idea that individuals are free-willed and free-thinking, then you accept that individuals have moral claims to natural rights. After that, there are two lines of argument which propound the necessity of liberal and democratic elements in the authority of any morally legitimate state. One is that justice (as a conception of fairness) requires equal consideration of personal interests, which requires some form of democracy. The other is Lockean consent, that only democratic systems are able to accommodate individual moral agency.

From another point of view, your premise is unsustainable, in any case; first off, no such dictatorship would bring "peace and purpose", and with no civil liberties or political rights, there is no institutional mechanism to ensure that it continued to do so even if it did.

 

[Deleted member 24160]

Any crime? Or just those three crimes?

Any crime, those are just the three biggest I can think of.

 

[PPEcel]

Any crime, those are just the three biggest I can think of.

Any crime?

Does that include jaywalking and petty larceny? If a homeless man is to shoplift a sandwich from a grocery store, does he face the death penalty?

If that is the case, what is there to deter him from committing another crime -- such as murdering the police officer who arrests him -- since he's facing the death penalty anyway?

 

[Deleted member 24160]

Any crime?

Does that include jaywalking and petty larceny? If a homeless man is to shoplift a sandwich from a grocery store, does he face the death penalty?

If that is the case, what is there to deter him from committing another crime -- such as murdering the police officer who arrests him -- since he's facing the death penalty anyway?

I'm not advocating for anything, I'm just starting a discussion.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Any crime?

Does that include jaywalking and petty larceny? If a homeless man is to shoplift a sandwich from a grocery store, does he face the death penalty?

If that is the case, what is there to deter him from committing another crime -- such as murdering the police officer who arrests him -- since he's facing the death penalty anyway?

Superman would kill him. He stands no chance.

Anyway, uhhhhhh... I dunno, any crime? Jeez, some crimes are fun.

 

[PPEcel]

I'm not advocating for anything, I'm just starting a discussion.

Well, you're going to get pretty predictable responses. One-third of us are going to take Thomas Hobbes' position to the extreme, another third will use this as an opportunity to advocate for Nazism, and the rest are going to give meaningless one-liners.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I would hate the idea of what "peace and justice" meant to a CHAD Superman God Dictator (hint: it would probably align closely with a Karen).

 

[Emba]

"Can't criticize the dictatorship?"

Oh... You mean like the jewish dictatorship we currently have?

No!

Gas the kites!

 

[Fat Link]

Yes.

So long as it is National Socialist and has thoroughly defeated the Jews and their allies.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yes, that's what Islam aims to accomplish anyways

 

[PPEcel]

Yes, that's what Islam aims to accomplish anyways

Nothing based about Islam

 

[RedIce]

No, for two main reasons.

1) dictatorships are bound to create a rigid hierarchy that is run by nepotism, where the rich will be rewarded while the poor will be punished. No matter how noble the initial intentions of the dictatorship are, sooner or later it will become corrupt like the USSR, Yugoslavia, and all other socio-globalist dictatorships.

2) freedom of speech is a fundamental human right. Nobody should be punished for speaking up their mind, even if it's hate speech.

 

[shii410]

am kinda morally opposed to the idea. I think self governance is a good thing

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nothing based about Islam

cry more. Islam will take over your degenerate lands

 

[PPEcel]

cry more. Islam will take over your degenerate lands

brutal

its over for alcoholcels and baconeatingcels

 

[Made in Heaven]

brutal

its over for alcoholcels and baconeatingcels

JFL if you legit think alchohol or bacon is good for yourself or society

 

[PPEcel]

JFL if you legit think alchohol or bacon is good for yourself or society

I don't care.

 

[Over_this_Life]

Sure, as long as this dictatorship is led by someone based

 

[Blackpill Rage]

Yes as long as I'm the dictator.

 

[PPEcel]

Yes as long as I'm the dictator.

 

[your personality]

I was playing Injustice: Gods Among Us game which is about Superman going insane and taking over the world as dictator and it got me thinking about this.
And by dictatorship I mean if you commit any crime, stealing murder or rape, you get killed and you can't criticize the dictatorship.

What kind of crime? Just violent crime or does it include criticizing, downplaying, or ignoring the state in any way? If the former maybe, if the latter the no.

And just like how you can't criticize women without blowback today and criticism of women falls under a variety of speech and expression for people trying to shut down 'misogyny', criticizing the dictatorship could be a pretty broad concept.

Over all, probably no.