Blackpill Women like leanmaxxers more than musclemaxxers.

[Pinpoint]

this is projection and lack of irl experience. some clever mental maneuvers ill give you that but none of it pans out realistically. guys that slay the most irl are tall big framed guys w high test phenos and medium+ bodyfat. what women like on ig isnt what makes their pussies wet when theyre ovulating.

I am not disputing what is said about bodybuilder brickbulkers, I am just saying their value is contextual, and foids can see if some people are compensating, or if it is about their passion. I am just saying women want the refinement of someone who has more nagularity ot hteir body that is shown through bones than by muscles. Remember, looks points are determined by your idiosyncracies/ nonmalleables because that will irrefutibly show through the very epicenter of what gave people anxiety to begin with.
Women are trying to reflect the impression of being cut from the craft of rarity/ regality/ delicateness that makes everyone feel more primitive/ out of rank and sync with what is proper compared to them.
Almost all weightlifters/ bodybuilders would give anything to change their nonmalleables, including their hard work gymcelling.

 

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More like spergmaxxing for the right

 

[Pinpoint]

I'm Croatian and not even white (brown eyes, hair.) It's true that certain races store more fat and it's more difficult for them to lose body fat, still possible though. 99% of curries and asians look fat/soft, many of them have bloated faces.

You're still going on about 8 packs. Again, only maybe one of the guys I posted has an 8 pack and it's very faint and the last 2 packs are tiny. The rest have 4 packs, some have 6.
I don't care about meme 8 packs, I'm fine with 6. Even 4 can look really good. Also, if you don't even have a 2 pack you're just not as lean as you think you are. Women don't care about that shit. It's all about the face anyway, body helps, but only if you're Chad. That Lachowski kid is a twig, but he has a very good face and it's all that matters.
"why lift weights when it's all about the face?"

I'm croatian and girls don't say I look croatian because I just have dark hair and dark eyes.
Are you dark skinned?
Croatians and Serbians a lot of them are very brunette/ dark complexioned.
Do you have light skin?

sexy high e women want big framed high test masc brutes. refinement appeals to avg women

where's your proof lol.

 

[Cuyen]

Yes I agree with that however bulking is seems way better in my opinion.

 

[Izayacel]

Debatable.

The concept of having muscle size bring in the "domination" halo effect.

 

[Pinpoint]

Yes I agree with that however bulking is seems way better in my opinion.

Women know these powers exist but they want ornateness in this day and age where women underlyingly know that the age of brawn is over, but the age of sculpt is all there is.
To be brawn in this world shows low pedigree/ class/ upward mobility in your past.

 

[anon]

I'm croatian and girls don't say I look croatian because I just have dark hair and dark eyes.
Are you dark skinned?
Croatians and Serbians a lot of them are very brunette/ dark complexioned.
Do you have light skin?

where's your proof lol.

I look Croatian, I just don't consider myself white.

 

[Pinpoint]

I look Croatian, I just don't consider myself white.

why lol

 

[anon]

why lol

Because some people don't consider dark featured Europeans to be white. I'm also Slavic and many people don't see us as white. If 100% of people don't see me as white, I'm not white. Same goes for Italians, Portuguese, Greeks etc. I'm not going to force it and I don't want to be delusional.
Someone from northern Germany with blue eyes is seen as white by everyone. Someone like me is not. Sure, some people would call me white, probably most people, but I think you know what I mean.

I'm Croatian first and if people ask me what race I am (doesn't happen in Europe, no one cares) I'll say I'm southern or southeastern European and they can decide if I'm white or not. I guess only Americans would actually ask me what race I am.

I'm not saying Croatians in general aren't white. Many Croats are white, just not all of us, especially coastal/med Croats like me.

 

[Pinpoint]

Because some people don't consider dark featured Europeans to be white. I'm also Slavic and many people don't see us as white. If 100% of people don't see me as white, I'm not white. Same goes for Italians, Portuguese, Greeks etc. I'm not going to force it and I don't want to be delusional.
Someone from northern Germany with blue eyes is seen as white by everyone. Someone like me is not. Sure, some people would call me white, probably most people, but I think you know what I mean.

I'm Croatian first and if people ask me what race I am (doesn't happen in Europe, no one cares) I'll say I'm southern or southeastern European and they can decide if I'm white or not. I guess only Americans would actually ask me what race I am.

I'm not saying Croatians in general aren't white. Many Croats are white, just not all of us, especially coastal/med Croats like me.

Then would you dub yourself.

 

[anon]

Then would you dub yourself.

I assume you meant "what would you dub yourself."
Either southern or southeastern European. I know that's not really a race, but it's close enough.
Realistically I'm mixed race. If I were to take a 23and me test it would be something like 30-50% balkanite, 20% eastern euro, 10-20% central/northern Euro, the rest is all kinds of stuff like western Euro, turkish, jewish, middle eastern or north african.

 

[KingOfRome]

Leanmaxxing gives your muscles and face the definition they need for foids to give even the faintest of shits about them. No 20%bf bloatmaxxed dad bod is getting you laid unless it's also wide and tall. Leaner men also have more masculine hormonal profiles by default. Look at Francisco Lachowski. He's skinny with abs. Since when has any foid ever fawned over Tom Hardy in The Dark Knight Rises?

 

[IncelGenocide]

Lifefuel, I'm on cardio now to get bf down. Please work!

 

[downunderlegattacks]

Leanmaxxing is musclemaxxing in a sense. Not to split hairs, but this needs to be said for all the looksmaxxingcels in here.

You will still be lifting, and building muscle, but with the intention on building lean muscle. Don't just think that caloric restriction is enough. You have to be doing the big lifts to get the good aesthetics.

I think the proper words would be leanmaxxing vs bulkmaxxing, when the bulkers don't pay mind to bodyfat %.

Other than that, I somewhat agree.

 

[femalesentience]

this is such coooope. its an idealized worldview that assumes a dichotomy between compensating primitive brutes and genetically endowed lean nobilids. which is incel cope in and of itself. the spectrum of chads and mogs that exist is multiplethorous and cant be reduced to a simple binary. the highest smv males are nfl players and rugby chads. they omnimog any conception of some high iq high pedigree male model doctor or what have you. especially ones like luke kuechly and tom brady that have male model faces. having a high pedigree and desirable non-malleable features is great but it must be juxtaposed w raw masculine qualities or every man and woman knows youre just an expensive cuck. 100% youre projecting this idea into the mind of fems and i'm usually the one to call all masc worshippers copers.

 

[Pinpoint]

Leanmaxxing gives your muscles and face the definition they need for foids to give even the faintest of shits about them. No 20%bf bloatmaxxed dad bod is getting you laid unless it's also wide and tall. Leaner men also have more masculine hormonal profiles by default. Look at Francisco Lachowski. He's skinny with abs. Since when has any foid ever fawned over Tom Hardy in The Dark Knight Rises?

how do they have more masculine hormonal profiles?

this is such coooope. its an idealized worldview that assumes a dichotomy between compensating primitive brutes and genetically endowed lean nobilids. which is incel cope in and of itself. the spectrum of chads and mogs that exist is multiplethorous and cant be reduced to a simple binary. the highest smv males are nfl players and rugby chads. they omnimog any conception of some high iq high pedigree male model doctor or what have you. especially ones like luke kuechly and tom brady that have male model faces. having a high pedigree and desirable non-malleable features is great but it must be juxtaposed w raw masculine qualities or every man and woman knows youre just an expensive cuck. 100% youre projecting this idea into the mind of fems and i'm usually the one to call all masc worshippers copers.

I'm not denying that masc worshiping exists in droves.
But there isn't primal momentum on the daily scene in it unless you're around high tier chads. It depends on what halos at current moments.
As I said there are primal instinctions constantly for women. They look at androgynous men in their emo clubs/ concerts but some desire masculinity depending on where oyu live, where you are.
Feminine is chad in asia.
Masculine is chad in a WWE wrestling dome.
But more and more the universe begins to be filed down away from its natural form, then people who have the higher wealth in sensation, even the sensation of high value are superior to those who have it in raw practicality.
Having sculpt/ supermodel faces is more important than muscle.
Halo effect when women view your past-pedigree primal value as inferior (where your muscles are all artificial) will be met with low value judgment. Women want to proofview for the highest genetic candidates.

 

[KingOfRome]

how do they have more masculine hormonal profiles?

Body fat secretes aromatase, a hormone that converts testosterone into estrogen. Some estrogen is normal in males, and having too little can hurt you, but most men these days have too much, and the obesity crisis is a huge contributor. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of nu-males are chubby.

 

[Pinpoint]

Body fat secretes aromatase, a hormone that converts testosterone into estrogen. Some estrogen is normal in males, and having too little can hurt you, but most men these days have too much, and the obesity crisis is a huge contributor. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of nu-males are chubby.

My dad had me when he was in his early mid 20s and he could really bench like a bad ass. Very aggressive.
I think that the hormones/ pheromones in me is repsonsible for why I am so blackpilled and aggressive minded. Him too.

 

[gnomen1]

This thread reminds me of the old misc discussions on the bodybullding forum.

Muscles don´t matter. If you have high genetic value, atrophy or hypertrophy of skeletal muscle is of no greater importance.

But eating is a huge coping mechanism for the genetically unworthy. It soothes body and mind. With modern fast foods, its also an addiction. The obesity epidemic starts early, and people are not able to stop eating highly palatable energy rich foods. When young men notice they are getting fat, they almost always default to gymcelling. It´s the path of least resistance. Calorie restriction and cardio is the correct medical intervention, but the bodybuilding industry is selling a convenient lie.

Leaness in a well developed body shows resistance to the poisonous food enviroment and will be preferred in todays society.