
Fallenleaves
Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those m
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High iqThe whole "owe you anything" angle is a cheap trick. If you engage with it, you accept that you only deserve what others decide you are "owed". And that you were demanding women have sex with you against their will.
The same logic is never used in other contexts, it's the perspective used to decide how to deal with enemies. Are cripples owed state support? Minorities? The poor? The mentally ill?
Why is every disadvantaged group owed help, sympathy and understanding except low status men?
I hate these leftist word play games. Name yourself "anti-facists" or "black lives matter". Now it feels bad to disagree with you because nobody wants to be seen disagreeing publicly with the name of the org itself.
On the one side, Black lives matter and on the other side, their opposition... you are fucked before you open your mouth.
Framing the incel debate as "men think they are owed sex" works the same way. Men are the aggressor, they are the ones making unreasonable demands, they are the problem, etc. When you start arguing with it, you first have to prove that you are not demanding sex from women against their will, by accepting their framing you are starting from an unwinnable position and in the defensive.
That these kind of tricks work at scale is just a symptom of how fucking retarded the average smarter-than-average person is. In a better world, the audience would see through these super cheap manipulations and start booing the ones using them off the stage, but we live in hell so...